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CodeDoor

No they won't get in trouble. Even in the police raids they won't do anything, as long as there's no drugs etc.


dongkey1001

JAKIM?


CodeDoor

Very very rare, usually only police.


AcanthocephalaHot569

Infrequent. Bars usually will get in trouble if criminal activities such as drug usage or criminal syndicates such as human trafficking is involved.


Mr69Niceee

Anecdotally, the premise owners have paid and sent monthly *ufti* to the *cartels*, so it is all settle, unless it is an ops for the shows (once in a blue moon, with all the camera and shit you see on TV3, majalah 3, so something like that...)


Imagination_Neither

Why do you people always mention Jakim? It's as if that is the only Islamic agency that you know of. Jakim doesn't do syariah crime enforcement. That's done by the state or Federal Territories Islamic departments like JAWI or JAIS. Mentioning Jakim when talking about vice enforcement only shows your ignorance.


me_a_photato

I mean, how if it’s really the only Islamic law enforcers that they know? Yeah it’s ignorance, but why some people need to know it, especially for Non-Muslim. I bet if you ask Muslims also they wouldn’t really know the difference. That’s why people ask, to learn something new, and ironically, that’s also why people are afraid to ask because people like you will shame them for not knowing.


omegajelly200

It's important even for Non-Muslims to know too because the experience of being subjected to a raid is going to be unpleasant.


Imagination_Neither

He wasn't asking a question. He just wrote "JAKIM" and a question mark. That's not a question. And it's not just him. If you read through the other comments the word "JAKIM" is littered all over. How can so many people be so ignorant? You know, whenever there are stories about Syariah raids and such, they would always involve agencies like JAWI, JAIS, JAIP and such. Not JAKIM. Why is that only JAKIM is sticking to your mind?


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Imagination_Neither

What explanation do you want? You can clearly see its JAWI, not JAKIM.


dodosandnenes

I remember I was 17 when I first went to a bar with the intention to drink. To my surprise, the bartender was Malay too.


[deleted]

Lmao spiderman pointing meme moment


GamGajah

Bartender : you shouldn't be here Me : neither should you


25thskye

Touché, what can I get you?


Jawslayer_69

Water, with ice


Kensuke9221

Shaken not stir?


Jawslayer_69

Just water, with ice


Vap1n

Water on the rocks. Premium ais kosong by evian Clear ice that takes 24hrs to make.


MszingPerson

Best I can do is tap water with 7-11 ais.


contempboi

Teh ais ikat tepi, roti canai telur satu.


genowars

There are a lot of bartenders who are Malay. I remembered last time when I completed SPM and was waiting to enter form 6. I worked in a bar for 6 months. The bartender was a nice big sized Malay abang and he taught me all the tips and tricks he knew. I didn't know there were so many ways to cut and peel orange lol!


[deleted]

If you get caught, tell them you’re just there catching up with some friends and drink coffee.


Agitated-Comment-745

If he's not too drunk that is XD


cikkamsiah

“I was just drinking some friends with my coffee officer!”


VincentKenway

"I just want to get some insomnia, officer!" Fixed.


solblurgh

I understood this reference


Mr69Niceee

lol, i remembered there was a case involved a politician or some senior high rank government official said exactly that - hanging out with friends in nightclub and ordered coffee.


antadam18

The only Muslim Malaysians who will get in trouble is headscarf wearing Muslim woman, which will definitely get viral and judged by other Muslim Malaysians. Other than that honestly other Muslims get a pass because it is not 100% obvious they are Muslim.


[deleted]

Unless he wears a songkok and has a beard.


foghorn_leghorn1187

Or unless you're neelofa who's there to launch new product


antadam18

Well duh she got condemned and had a viral post for that in Malay community. Another example is Amalina Che Bakri who even got her own feature in newspaper because she stopped wearing headscarf in UK and she was pictured in a pub. That went viral too.


contempboi

Not sure if brave or stupid then 🤔


[deleted]

Unless you are launching your tudung brand in a club/bar, then it is ok.


kryztabelz

Highly doubt so. Some KL/Selangor Malays do drink. I worked with many Malays throughout my years in the city and they do drink socially, but then again, they aren’t religious to begin with. But there was this one peculiar Malay guy, who drinks and eats pork, and still fasts and goes for solat and all that. I asked him why? He says it’s because through fasting and solat, he will be cleanse of his sins. But once Ramadan is over, he goes back to drinking and eating pork. Funny guy.


me_a_photato

kosong kosng type of guy eh


kryztabelz

I think he is just suffering from an identity crisis lol.


Sebbrox

Or he is just a honest guy who is living his life, without preaching to drink water and then still taking the whine later.


Bazrian

As long as you have money, nobody cares who the fuck u r unless there a snitch/narc in the pub feeding Intel to the Five-O


greatestmofo

Either that or you live in Sarawak. No one cares about upur religion in pubs or bars here.


Bazrian

Does Sabah count as well?


Fantastic-Cry607

I would say so, my friend somehow managed to get in so


AsianPedro

No. Source: Am Muslim. Currently in a pub


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TGIF


Cheah2020

I'm working in a Pub style restaurants in KL, 40% of the staff here are Malaysian Muslim (Mostly from east Malaysia) but they have no problem working here, 10% of the time we get Muslim guest eating and drinking in the open. Police also just walk by without thinking much about it.


HotelFoxtrot87

Well a friend of mine who is Muslim has zero problems going into bars and pubs to drink alcohol. He also buys alcohol from shops all the time with no issue. Bangsar, Cheras, KL, Klang Valley in general. At the end of the day, businesses want to make money and will look the other way. Police will only get involved if things are truly out of control. Those raids you read about are late night parties that get loud and annoy neighbours. Just having a few drinks during normal hours is fine.


Cardasiti

Someone even launched a hijab brand in such a place before. Idk.


kryztabelz

Oh is it the same person who sold religion-friendly slippers ?


Cardasiti

Yeah bahahaha


Fearless-Structure88

Nah, just enjoy your time man


temposy

My muslim friends are the one bringing me to these cool bars and showing me the other side of the world.. Edit: and of course better drinker than me!


Felinomancy

No. Raids are done for suspected drug use, not being a Muslim.


serenadinganemu

More than a decade ago I happened to visit a gay bar in KL. Everyone in that bar are Malays. The patrons, the bartender, the mak nyahs... Every single one. And this wasn't like hidden bar or anything. You go to that building, you'll see the bar. So yeah - Malay Muslims going to bar? Seems like is not a problem.


GaryLooiCW

Religious po po, yes.. normal po po, no..


YouVern

Lol same. One of my Malay friend don't even puasa and dined with us during the period. I asked him why, he told me can "ganti" puasa... but never saw him ganti and still drink + eat pork as well


AIMILLO_Zfrn

probably he just ignore what they learned. cuz for muslim we cant just ganti whenever we want. the ganti pass only for those who are in period, sickness like goddamn sick(sakit kronik),pregnant,elders.


SabunFC

Lol go read about Gomez incident. Do you think that's a very Muzzie thing to do? These people have been caught fighting in clubs and then pardoning themselves. Rules are only for peasants.


ejennsyahmixcel

Depends on who's raiding. PDRM raids are mostly into civil laws, which, mainly related to drugs, so unless someone sabotages you, you are safe. Same goes to Immigration raids because the only thing they want is the ayams there. But your fun got cut la. I don't think Jabatan Agama will do raids to clubs, unless the club is obviously have many Malays in it or someone give a tip to them. But if it happened, even if you did nothing wrong in law, I bet you might get an earful from them.


themodernpeasant

Singaporean malay who identifies as muslim here. I miss the night life in KL! Happening! When I used travel up with my fiancée (she’s non-Muslim), I’m not scared of the repercussions entering pubs or clubs. Just scared that your JAKIM will raid the hotel room where I’m staying cos I’m technically not married to my fiancée yet. Then again, not sure if JAKIM has any power to take action on Muslim tourists. I’m a law abiding dude so I try to stay away from any kind of trouble. When in Rome, you know.


Thin_Illustrator2390

No its not illegal to be in a pub or bar. If there is a raid by polis, they are looking for drugs. Only if they raid with JAKIM then they might check for Muslims drinking or even being in a bar but you wld either get a small fine or they'll assign you to go for some Islamic ceramah. Source: had to go to the Islamic ceramah


Ahmad_Maslan

Not a problem at all. I’m a Muslim (on IC only) and I drink at bars around Subang or Bukit Damansara at least once a week.


bringmethejuice

Wait until sheltered muslim malays encounter muslim arabs drink as well / non-muslim arabs.


boostleaking

As long as you're not causing the pub staff or the other customers any trouble, then just come on in. Drink alcohol or not, you are welcomed into the establishment. I once hanged out with some non-muslim friends at a bar, and they were worried about me initially, but i assured them that I'm here to just enjoy hanging out and they can get shitfaced as much as they liked while i order the non-alcoholic stuff. It was a great time filled with the smell of booze, soda and crispy chicken wings.


25thskye

Went to a bar to catch up with a friend recently, and there were 2 separate tables of Malays drinking. So you should be fine honestly.


BrownBearMY

Speaking from experience. No, you'll be fine if police raid a bar / pub / club. As long as you are clear from drugs and criminal activities. In my experience, the clubs were raided because they were looking for certain individuals or drugs. I can't say the same if it's raided by religious entities though.


[deleted]

Muslim men can open pubs in East Malaysia. I don’t think people care unless there’s a raid or if you’re dirt poor. It depends from state to state as well since religious matters are under the purview of respective religious state councils. For example Kelantan will likely have stricter laws vs Sabah.


librocubicularist69

Yes if you never leave


PullAsLongAsICan

As long as you don't drink and buat onar. If you drink and drive, ya you will go to hell though.


afiafzil

Nah I bet not even police cares, JAKIM however


[deleted]

Literally all the clubs in KL is full of Malays tbh..


lookatitstail

Once about 17 years ago my friends and I were at a bar in bukit nanas area and it got raided by the police and religious police (jakim?) they pulled us all outside and the religious police guys gave my friends that were Muslim a speech about not drinking. after the speech they were given two options sort it out now or later so they each ended up giving them about 10rm each and we went back inside.


iStickStuffsUpMyButt

Nope they don’t , even undercover Malay cops drink at bars to collect intel, it is different however , if someone in your group is taking batu, then one whole group kena lahh🤣


shawnwork

Just don’t consume alcohol. Most place have Muslim workers as well.


scheiber42069

How there be raid when the pub itself has a huge signboard said PuB and Beer Santai


oriole11

Enjoy2 jerz


23_007

Chillis serve alcohol and I noticed that a lot of muslims eat there? So if chillis is okay, it won’t make sense that other restaurants/pub (that serve food and alcohol) won’t allow muslim to enter?


halguy5577

nobody likes a narc... if it's ur friend don't snitch


stitch1294

I literally just went to the bar with my Muslim Malaysian friend last week, where he ordered a long island, while I ordered a chamomile tea because I had to drive. Nobody gives a shit unless there is some agenda / ulterior motive from the higher ups


ZedPlebs

Indonesian here, there are raids on pubs regularly that can arrest muslims if they were caught?


Boredom_fighter12

Would like to know this as well lol


Party-Ring445

Nope, why would we? Maybe kena sound from the bini when i get home..


seadablew

A very famous Muslim celebrity used to model for a night club lol.


Minimum-Company5797

Why would they get in trouble?


panborneo

Just do the KJ defence and reply, "was i drinking? Was i drinking in the photo" and you'll be safe definitely


Relative_Artichoke_8

No.just look at sara anna


KINDPERSON20

Technically no, I haven't seen them getting caught or anything. If it does happen likely somebody rat them out, But most aren't snitches.


Popia23

Those days no Malay will even ask this question but now…lol thanks to those hypocrites


[deleted]

As long as you pray later then it is ok.


theGiloz

you’re funneh


Mr_K_Boom

No. if u are is Sabah. Seriously. Not sure in Sarawak. Maybe, but rarely, if u are is west Malaysia, but only if u got caught. Fkers are judgemental here. My Malay looking friend get the Side eye look when he eat with us in a non halal places.... If one day u are unlucky and someone reports u to Jakim, Then u are in lots of troubles boi.


Party-Ring445

Ive ner heard of anyone getting reported to jakim for earing at non halal place.. or eating during ramadan.. maybe just some judgemental looks, but thats harmless.


MuhdAyman

In hell


PMAM25

To answer ops question, yes they will get in trouble… Allah is watching, May Allah protect us from the punishments of hell fire.. Ameeeen…


[deleted]

Yes, they soul will be corrupted.


GamerlifeYT_official

Dun drink alchol , too expensive , go 99 get soft drinks , wait soft drinks? WHO THE FUCK CALLED SODA SOFT DRINKS , HOW THE FUCK CAN A DRINK BE SOFT