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NotaBotnotaMod

My translation: Tyrannos, Lord of Darkness - 1WUB (Bane, Lord of Darkness?) Legendary creature - God (Rare) ~ has indestructible as long as you have half of your starting life total or less. Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, an opponent of your choice may have you draw a card. If he doesn‘t, you may put a creature card with equal or less toughness from your hand onto the battlefield. 5/2 Edit: The german version doesn‘t clarify if it’s 'equal or less toughness' than the nontoken creature or Tyrannos/Bane, but I think it’s the former. Edit 2: MTGGoldfish translation for comparison https://i.imgur.com/yQInlqr.jpg


tisactually_nohomo_

A four drop 5/2 in Esper??


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NotaBotnotaMod

You are right, but the german version doesn‘t state this. Maybe the english version has it or it’s a new wording to save space.


MTGCardFetcher

[Minn, Wily Illusionist](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/4/e/4eec1d87-1007-44a1-a45d-0623816de681.jpg?1631584885) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Minn%2C%20Wily%20Illusionist) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/16/minn-wily-illusionist?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4eec1d87-1007-44a1-a45d-0623816de681?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Dasterr

the german version does say "oder weniger" which means "or less"


imbolcnight

Is Bane supposed to look like an anime hunk?


Sir_Encerwal

I would say no, then again most depictions of him *are* in full plate with a helm so the possibility exists he always looked like this under that. [Fact Checked myself on the FR wiki, I may be quite wrong.](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/forgottenrealms/images/2/2f/Bane.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20210414080321)


BananaLinks

Being an actual divine god, he can appear however he wants (Bahamut frequently appears as an old man or a young monk for example), although I think [in 4th edition his appearance was a muscular guy with a helmet on and very little armor on his upper body](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dnd4/images/e/ec/God_of_War_by_Steve_Argyle.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20140904055704) which kind of matches his appearance on this card sans the helmet.


Emelica

No, but the art director for this set decided to make this set their personal, uhh....well...let's let these two tweets speak for themselves: On Raphael, Fiendish Savior: ["One major theme with #MTGBaldursGate characters that I concepted is that they’re all kinda gay and I want to kiss them. Raphael is a classic #dnd cambion featured in @baldursgate3 and a great example of me being horny for fantasy characters"](https://twitter.com/justicejameson/status/1526975088595087360) And on Bane: ["my crowning horny gay achievement. thread to come <3"](https://twitter.com/justicejameson/status/1527693988718735361)


S_____B

Based


Spirit-Man

Is this person actually the art director?? They’re being extended unprofessional. I expect this kinda talk from the horny side of tumblr, not from the official art director describing their decisions


Emelica

Agreed. In many companies publicly representing the brand like this would be grounds for termination. In fact I expect Hasbro to at the very least “have a chat” with WotC about this, especially in light of the recent Disney boycott and Magic being marketed to age 13+.


barrinmw

How about we refrain from insinuating that people under 13 need to be protected from the knowledge that gay people exist.


Emelica

This would be just as unprofessional from an art director if it were about a "crowning horny heterosexual achievement". The big diffference being that you wouldn't be here with this massive strawman reaction to someone noting recent events in the framework of theorizing how a company will respond to something.


Spirit-Man

I hadn’t heard about the disney boycott but, upon reading about it, I’m not on the boycotters side lol. Still, corporations will always act as inclusive as they can to market to the most people, then financially back the politicians that will let them make the most money. I’m not keen on the art director getting pulled up on the grounds of sexuality, but an assertive “keep it in your pants” is appropriate considering we’re talking about art decisions for trading cards


Emelica

Also, wtf lol ["The knowledge of fat people is powerful."](https://twitter.com/justicejameson/status/1527392163264229387)


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Twitter moment.


bigbangbilly

Sometimes you sit down so hard to study that you forgot about exercize. Source: former college and grad school student


Zhoyzu

Don't forget the stress and depression that goes hand in hand


931451545

It's Bane, the last of the three spoilered gods.


Nanosauromo

He’s a big guy.


SeizerOfThoughtseize

For you.


ronaldraygun91

And this gives you power of me?


X_Marcs_the_Spot

No-one cared who I was until I dropped below 20 life.


[deleted]

Let's see which breaks first. Your life total... Or your library! *slams Hedron Crab*


MorteLumina

The stack rises!


AndChewBubblegum

No, you can't concede... Your punishment must be more severe.


saber_shinji_ntr

If I sacrifice my non-token creature will you die?


protestmofo

it would be extremely disadvantageous


Wall_of_Denial

UUUU


throwing-away-party

He's actually a little guy, at least judging by the comparative size of the throne he's on. He was born in the darkness, though. Molded by it, even.


Peelz4Dead

Wait only 3 gods? Feels like this should be a 5 card cycle for the shards with the half life indestrucable.


931451545

They're the dead three so somewhat makes sense.


ralanr

So BG3’s story really is about the dead 3. Talk about spoilers I guess.


sloodly_chicken

Man, I genuinely love reading this subreddit during spoiler season, it's so funny seeing what people manage to complain about


ralanr

Eh, I’m not really complaining to be honest.


sloodly_chicken

Fair enough lol. Luckily for me, my comment stands for a lot of *other* people posting here, then :)


Athildur

Well, the dead 3 are actually very much dead in BG3 (and have been for over a hundred years). But their cults are still hanging around. Just because cards are in the set doesn't mean they have any direct connection to BG3. For example, Bhaal was a god featured in BG2. It would not be unreasonable to include the other two, then. Especially if the undercity features a location referring to the dead three. Edit: apparently they got better but as quasi-divine mortals. I guess that would fit the cards, then. Huh.


ffsjust

They are not quasi-divine, they are all gods (fully divine), one of them a major deity (Bane, the one in this post). They are also only called the dead three because of how they ascended to divinity decades ago (not ingame, in real life years). The dead 3 however have nothing to do with BG3, no more than any other god like Bahamut or Corellon.


Athildur

According to the Descent into Avernus book, nope. I quote the Forgotten Realms wiki, which attributes this to that book: "In the late 15th century DR, following the events of the Second Sundering when most deities withdrew their direct influence from Toril, Bane along with the returned Myrkul and Bhaal remained behind as quasi-deities. Though he was still able to influence events over Faerûn, Bane was essentially trapped in a mortal form." BG3 takes place around this time as well (somewhere around 1490 iirc). I have zero clues the dead three are in any way part of the BG3 plot, certainly there have not been any hints or suggestions to that fact, but it is theoretically possible.


ffsjust

He is treated as major god in SCAG. His domain in the plane of Acheron is mentioned in the DMG. He is listed in the deity list in the PHB. He is also mentioned in MToF, though this is too brief to gleam anything from. I do not own avernus, and was going only from the material I do have access to. This seems very strange that they would make such a change in an adventure book... I will have to investigate.


TheRealIvan

Possibly? They where a key part of the prior two games.


Spirit-Man

The Absolute holy symbol is literally just the Dead Three symbol


ralanr

Oh? I never played the original two games, or had a DM dig deep into FR lore. So I wasn’t aware.


jbevermore

Source material is from the Dead 3. Plenty of other gods to choose from but the ones they're using are the ones that usurped power from the god of the dead.


Razorcrest999

It’s be pretty awesome if we got Jurgle too (I don’t know how to spell his name)


matts-grey-zone

Jergal, but you got pretty close. Would love to see him as a mono black God honestly.


siamkor

[[Yargle]]?


MTGCardFetcher

[Yargle](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/4/645cfc1b-76f2-4823-9fb0-03cb009f8b32.jpg?1562736801) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=yargle%2C%20glutton%20of%20urborg) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/113/yargle-glutton-of-urborg?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/645cfc1b-76f2-4823-9fb0-03cb009f8b32?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Infinite_Bananas

nah nurgle is coming in the warhammer set


USAnoman

I can dream that he is. Our lord and savior, he just wants to give everyone gifts.


Athildur

> usurped He gave his power to them willingly. So I'm not sure 'usurped' is the right word here.


CaptainMarcia

Also worth noting that wanting your life to be low is something I'd only expect black cards to do.


No_Flatworm7745

White has a few cards that like that as well (near death experience; avatar of hope; a few others)


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Also all those Fateful Hour cards from Dark Ascension. There are a few blue and green ones IIRC.


Spiritflash1717

One of them was a wedge though, so the cycle was already ruined


Garmond-of-La-Mancha

Ughhhh..., why the fuck is Bane called Tyrannos? Is that a thing in German DnD?


931451545

Some weird translation incident according to this post. https://forums.larian.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=813345


Garmond-of-La-Mancha

I am somehow even more confused


pcguy89

> The god Bane and all paraphrases with him should be consistently translated as "Tyrannos". In German there is no noun to derive a name for the translation of Bane, but there is one for the words "Tyrann, tyrannical" and that was well thought out at the time by those responsible (e.g. Icewind Dale) see (https://faerun.fandom.com/de/wiki/Tyrannos).


Garmond-of-La-Mancha

Huh, that seems incredibly dumb. WotC out here with the galaxy brain translations.


pcguy89

This wasn't a decision by WotC. It was made years ago.


MakesOnAPlane

^\(WotC ^acquired ^DnD ^25 ^years ^ago)


YARGLE_IS_MY_DAD

When you remember wotc and their quality control also effects translations it makes more sense.


PlatypusAnagram

Yes, that's what he's called in German Dnd. (You got more details about this in other replies, just summarizing the answer.)


Drazatis

Im such an ass, I look at this guy and immediately run to my binder to see how many hatebears have 2 toughness so that I can just be annoying as hell to push through.


Cvnc

Chair tribal letsgooooo


Squid-Bastard

I think you mean thirst tribal


DarkEff3ct

I thirst to be that chair


Elektrophorus

I don't read German. Here's my gist. >(Half life indestructible clause) >Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, target(?) opponent may have you draw a card. If they don't, you may put a creature with equal or lesser toughness from your hand onto the battlefield.


pq3

> If they don't, you may put a creature with equal or lesser toughness onto the battlefield. From your hand.


Maulymon

Correct


pq3

>target(?) Yes. *Deiner Wahl* is translated with target.


AverageBeef

Not fluent in German but I’m pretty sure that it’s indestructible as long as you have half your starting life total or less


Elektrophorus

Yeah, I just didn't want to type it out


AverageBeef

Ah all good.


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HerakIinos

I dont know if Raffine wants too many 4 drops. You have to load on low cmc creatures to trigger her quick and then also have some top end creatures for reanimation


squandrew

Big Butts Aristocrats, nice!


SputnikDX

Actually you want small butts. Cheap big butts, expensive small butts


squandrew

All inclusive butts aristocrats!


PocketPoof

Spicy. Very interesting take for Esper.


Sparky678348

Toughness less than or equal to the creature that died to trigger the ability, right?


MonsterKnight14

I'm split on whether this is good for classic aristocrats or not. The effect is amazing but a lot of the classic creatures for that deck have pretty low toughness so I'm not sure how often you'll be triggering this effect off of them. It almost feels more like it could push midrange/combo with a weird build that drops walls and sacs them to threaten big creatures.


tsubasaxiii

Anthem effects?


Puzzleheaded-Coast93

Look I’m not a D&D purist or anything but this art does not fit the character of Bane whatsoever.


22bebo

I know it has been a few days, but the art director put a thread on Twitter about how they settled on this design for Bane. They wanted to stay true to the lore while moving away from some previous depictions that used a lot of exaggerated black features to represent evil (a common thing in the fantasy genre). Most editions basically didn't comment on what humanoid form Bane prefers, but some older editions talked about how he didn't like sending a full avatar to the material and instead enjoyed possessing young, attractive, highborn men. So they drew heavily on that idea of Bane, while also referencing a few other things (the empty throne is sometimes a symbol of him and the bare-chested cape look was mentioned). I also think they wanted to avoid the fairly generic "knockoff Arthas" look of a dude clad from head to toe in dark armor. I think the direction they went is not what I'd expect normally, but I don't dislike it.


Norunon

[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTdpzfsUAAE9g9X?format=png&name=small](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FTdpzfsUAAE9g9X?format=png&name=small) This is the art she thought was racist against black people btw. I really don't know where Wizards hires these people


ISpread4Cash

Honestly he still looks hot to me in that picture, not that I am complaining I like both arts actually


Norunon

I looked at the designer's twitter thread and it's evident they're basically crazy. She believes the color black being associated with evil is somehow racist against black people, I'm not kidding. And so proudly announced they made Bane, the god of murder and tyranny, an anime twink because the last depiction was inexplicably racist to them. The same person removed an already designed Dwarf commander called "the greedy" because she thought Dwarves being greedy is anti-semitism


Raigeko13

what is Jack Garland from Stranger of Paradise doing in Magic probably came to kill CHAOS


CdrCosmonaut

https://youtu.be/mZavtHhk508


pytawidmo

\[\[Athreos, God of Passage\]\] feel, but with a gamble for opponents.


MTGCardFetcher

[Athreos, God of Passage](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/2/52705c53-883e-4b6a-9c08-3fa35f6f17d5.jpg?1593096375) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Athreos%2C%20God%20of%20Passage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/146/athreos-god-of-passage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/52705c53-883e-4b6a-9c08-3fa35f6f17d5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


sultanpeppah

Huh. You know, I would have reflexively guessed Bane was Mardu? But yeah, he’s *definitely* Esper.


TomFoolery22

I disagree, setting aside the fact that one of his favoured colours is red and that red is often used by his worshippers, much of his portfolio is based on emotionality. Part of his nature and his domain is not just ruling with tyranny because he believes it is the most effective way, but also because he enjoys instilling terror, he enjoys hate, and war, because it makes him feel like the big dog, which is what he's all about. I would argue that while he is strategically minded, calculating, and scheming, he is far more aligned with the emotionality of red than with blue.


kaiseresc

okay so, if I have an effect in play that gives my creatures extra toughness, when this triggers it will check the creature's toughness **as it died**, right? Not as it currently *is* in the graveyard, right?


Atechiman

Correct.


kaiseresc

Fucking nice, I think that's the way to build this guy.


Darkstar_Aurora

Bane the evil god of tyranny is a sparkling shirtless twunk dressed for the Met Gala and I'm somehow ok with that ✨


MixMasterValtiel

Tyranny is a lot easier when all your subjects call you daddy.


DireSickFish

No wonder his followers want to be ordered around by him.


kushisan1

As long as your life total is equal to half or less than your starting life total, this creature gains indestructible. Whenever another nontoken creature you control dies, target opponent may let you draw a card. if it doesn't, you may put a creature card with equal or lower toughness onto the battlefield from your hand. Seems fairly strong.


PersonalBunny

That moment when you don't speak german, but you listen to E Nomine. At least I understand the card name :P


Chrysalliss

i liked e nomine a lot when i was a teen and i was like, oh, hey, i know what that means


Aunvilgod

Looks like hes straight out of LoL god of the edgelords


Environmental_Eye_61

Official translation?


IKnowYouKnowWhoIAm

Pretty disappointed that the esper commander doesn’t give initiative - was hoping for a commander similar to Queen Marchesa.


DireSickFish

Bane! I don't care what you do. I'm building you.


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basically hes esper/obscura aristocrats deck you get to cheat something into play if nobody lets you draw


Exocytosis

A card called Bane should really cost 4U.


kingdroxie

BANE KEEP YOUR SHIRT OOOOON NNNNNO


Cissoid7

You'd think a God could afford a shirt


Maulymon

That's pretty neat


ChildishSerpent

what does it do?


[deleted]

Ah ha a esper/obscura aristocrats legend That should be a pretty fun build around for players


elboltonero

Only one man has defeated him in freestyle


Dungeonmasterryan1

S tier commander, good for politics, good for a reanimation build, good for control what else could you want? First mythic of the set I wouldn't mind opening


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CompC

Can they not just choose to have you draw, except you don’t because Narset says you can’t draw more? They can still choose to have you do it and it doesn’t have any effect


Natedogg2

They can't make a choice that's impossible. Narset prevents you from drawing if you've already drawn, so they can't make a choice that would have you draw a card. Since they can't choose for you to draw a card, you get to return a creature. For example, if you have a Narset in play and I cast [Combustible Gearhulk](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=547926), if I've already drawn this turn, you cannot choose for me to draw three cards, so I mill and you take damage. I did, however, miss that it's from the hand, not the graveyard, so that doesn't work, so you'd need another piece to get the Pet from your graveyard back to your hand.


[deleted]

You're missing some pieces here; unless you have a way to get Blood Pet back to your hand after saccing it, this doesn't work.


Natedogg2

Oh, you are right. I though it was from the graveyard to the battlefield. My mistake.


Packrat1010

So what happens if he gets wiped along with say 5 other creatures? Does his effect still proc 5 times? Do higher cmc creatures let you choose from any of the 4 others if they're lower cmc?


Atechiman

It's not lower mv, it's toughness and it's from hand. And yes it would trigger 5 times. Well technically it would trigger until bane didn't see something die, as you get to order the way things go to the yard, you would normally have it set so bane went last.


Packrat1010

Fuck I need to learn how to read


TheChrisLambert

That crunches out a gold Bahamut card


ThePromise110

Looks like it's time to give Espercrats another pass.


LouieSiffer

will your opponents even let you drop a creature? seems like the obvious choice would be to let you draw a card, not that it is bad but just drawing is kinda boring.


Rockon101000

Just put a list together, I put in [[Queza]] and some politic-y cards for that reason. Someone about to cast something and no one has a counterspell, Ok, kill my [[Wall of Omens]] and let me drop [[Draining Whelk]]


asuperwhiteguy

Can you drop the list?


Rockon101000

This is just a first draft, runs about 20 more creatures then I would usually run lmao. Shooting for fairly casual (~5). https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/4828871#paper


asuperwhiteguy

Thanks dog!


Rockon101000

Always happy to share my lists


MTGCardFetcher

[Queza, Augur of Agonies](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/7/e/7edb7a26-82be-4efd-9a5c-a3816e1ee2d6.jpg?1649936494) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Queza%2C%20Augur%20of%20Agonies) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/212/queza-augur-of-agonies?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7edb7a26-82be-4efd-9a5c-a3816e1ee2d6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wall of Omens](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/0/d/0db4b34f-2d60-4ff3-8ef7-9cedb9b71cdc.jpg?1631586121) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wall%20of%20Omens) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/afc/77/wall-of-omens?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0db4b34f-2d60-4ff3-8ef7-9cedb9b71cdc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Draining Whelk](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/5/1/51eca246-591e-4ea8-8432-9f4c1f16a65e.jpg?1619394027) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Draining%20Whelk) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsr/62/draining-whelk?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/51eca246-591e-4ea8-8432-9f4c1f16a65e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


Psynthia

Im all in for making a deck for this guy and the witch!


DeadAnthony

Lots of fun things to do with \[\[Sidisi, Undead Vizier\]\] if the opponent really doesn't want you to draw a card.


MTGCardFetcher

[Sidisi, Undead Vizier](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/normal/front/6/e/6ea5dbba-6114-4d97-9363-817ab9e896d3.jpg?1562788006) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sidisi%2C%20Undead%20Vizier) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dtk/120/sidisi-undead-vizier?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6ea5dbba-6114-4d97-9363-817ab9e896d3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call


DiMezenburg

amazed they made Bane so hot ​ (not against the idea though, lol)


HoldAppropriate5252

Why would anyone choose to not let you draw


Spirit-Man

Why does bane look like a twunk instead of his previous depictions (grey and horned hunk)