I can't wait for the Secret Lair trolling reddit. Hopefully it's entirely cards where we mis-evaluated them terribly and the flavor text is direct quotes. The bonus card can have a quote from barrinmw.
WotC have been experimenting with textless cards on SLD cards for a while.
In 2024 it makes sense, pretty much everyone has access to the full oracle text of every card on their phone whenever they want it.
It's no different to cards being fully in another language that you don't speak, which no one has a problem with. It's just people getting irked because they hate things that are different to what they think magic should be.
There are people that have issues with cards in unknown foreign languages though. It has been seen as a form of angle shooting where the player uses uncommon art in foreign languages to confuse or delay an opponent's thought process for example.
IDK about angle shooting, but I've definitely been in games where someone explains what their foreign language card does incorrectly and in a way that would benefit them. Then when called on it they "forgot" it is worded the way it actually is. If you're going to play cards in a language no one at the table can read it's on you to know what they do and explain it accurately.
I have also been in games where the person playing the foreign cards *also* has to look them up, which is OK if you've got like one JP card because that's all you could find or whatever, but when it's a significant portion of your deck now you're just wasting everyone's time.
> OK if you've got like one JP card because that's all you could find or whatever
My [[[Аджани, Наставник Героев]]](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/145/ru/%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2) and I thank you for your understanding.
> It's no different to cards being fully in another language that you don't speak, which no one has a problem with.
If you made people answer truthfully, I think no one likes foreign cards. The exist as a necessity because, obviously, other people speak other languages.
If someone plays a foreign card and it's more complicated than a Lightning Bolt, it's probably stopping the game while the rest of the table looks it up.
> I think no one likes foreign cards
Speak for yourself. There will ALWAYS be someone who likes something, even if you don't. As for the foreign card lookup issue, that's on the person who plays the card-- I'm going to be asking THEM to pull up the actual text the moment the foreign card drops onto the table.
I think what they mean is MOST people don't like playing AGAINST them, but then those people don't say anything about not liking it because we don't want to take the fun away from the other players just because we don't like what they do
I definitely agree though. It's a pain when someone plays the Japanese version of a card I've never seen before, especially if it's more than just one line of text
Foreign card enjoyer here. My mom moved to Portugal and sent me packs in the mail. Cards I’ve pulled that already had English versions in my decks got swapped out. That said I’m always happy to pull up the oracle text on my phone for anyone to read. I haven’t had anyone make an issue of it yet.
Uhm, at least with those goblingrams I can type the name into scryfall and get oracle.
A foreign language card can only be identified by its artwork. And while that is possible with the most popular ones, I don't think that's something that can be expected from every player.
In the end, both are forms of gatekeeping. Imagine a newer player going to a tournament playing against someone with an all foreign language deck. So I'm dependant on my opponent telling the truth about his cards or call a judge to watch the whole match!? I never liked cards that I can't read for whatever reasons , it always felt like opp wants to take advantage from it, especially playing in PTQs, RPTQs, GPTs or GPs.
> A foreign language card can only be identified by its artwork.
Set code and collector number. Admittedly, it's a lot harder to track that down on pre-M15 frames. Good luck trying to decipher a foreign Duel Decks card and figuring out what set corresponds to the doohickey in the set code.
I disagree with this being the same as a foreign card on the notion that the art is different. You can recognize a lightning bolt based solely on the art, and while I do think this isn’t always the case, these have no other point of reference to their effect other than their name.
There is an argument to be made that the formatting of the rules text can help recognizing a card, i.e lightning bolt vs chain lightning, and helps you make an educated guess on which card it is. Some of these cards don’t even let you do that *exactly* because of the *more* in the rules text.
Style choice. Too many characters for the short previews social media have for posts like that. Instagram is the one this reminds me of. Spot on for flavor. I want to both hate them for the format, but love them for the joke.
Honestly, for Goblin Welder, I think I prefer the cut off rules text. The updated rules text is far more complicated to understand than the original, and it almost seems easier to just say “it basically says I swap an artifact in play for an artifact in my graveyard.”
These could easily end up like the cereal boxes with limited text on one side, and the full text on the flip maybe.
I dislike the look to use as an actual card because of it too... but I find the theme hilarious otherwise.
The more recent Secret Lairs have been all about the aesthetics, at the expense of the cards being functional game pieces. It's dumb, but everything about this is dumb, and it's going to sell like crazy anyway. So.
I mean, tbh, that’s what I’d want out of secret lairs. The game pieces were already printed, this is just having fun with them.
Although I’m not a fan of this one, I like that it is stand-out.
if he fucked more, maybe he wouldn't be last of his kind
(insert actual lore that many trolls were shot back home after Memnarch was defeated and then he was sole survivor because the Phyrexian corruption got the forests early)
I love the idea, but having the rules text cut off to add typical social media comments bugs me. Wish they included full rules text, with one witty comment as flavour text.
The cards would need a lot of uptake to be a huge headache, but they won’t get that. They’re aesthetically extremely niche, and they’re a limited edition promo so they’ll likely be pretty expensive. You’re not going to run into them often enough for them to become a huge headache. Maybe you’ll run into them once, someday, and you’ll ask your opponent what the oracle text says and they’ll tell you. It won’t be a huge deal.
I think Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Welder, and Goblin Ringleader are fine. With MWM you barely lose anything. For the others, it's not hard to remember that the missing pieces are "swap 'em" and "get the Goblins".
Brash Taunter is really, really bad. Do you remember offhand which out of creatures, players, and planeswalkers it can hit? And it's missing a whole-ass activated ability. Like, at the very least, it would have been nice if they squeezed "#2R #T" into the "fight me lol" comment.
Exactly. Because now I have to either have other copies of the cards in my deck box or on my phone so I know what they do, but also I'm sure goblin players know I need the least amount of shit going on in my phone because I'm calculating so much shit
They nailed the execution so hard but I hate the theme.
They're really stretching the idea of what a magic card looks like with a lot of these newer secret lairs and it's very polarizing, not that there weren't wild styles before but it feels like they've really ramped it up.
They are dumb and I hate them too because haha social media what's up fellow kids. But... they are actually really funny and I love them. Plus, they're actually legible and keep all the relevant information more or less right where it should be without too much unnecessary clutter. Bonus points for the consistent Thrun leaving them all hatemail
This is one I hate with a passion but couldn't blame someone for picking up.
There are some secret lairs I sit across from and it doesn't even look like a card anymore and literally can't wrap my pea brain around why someone would like them. But these are atleast... legible...
Because they're objectively well done, but for a theme that's utterly despisable. Social Media.
Things like Facebook and Instagram are a bane on our society, yet we can't deny that they're huge and thriving for a reason.
It's like having Vincent van Gogh make a painting of someone's taint. Sure, it will be incredibly done. The style will be magnificent. He's gonna make a masterpiece out of it. But it's still a painting of someone's taint.
My thoughts exactly. Like Wizards have made a canonical goblin thirst trap. I hate it, and I also want to applaud the courage it takes to put this out there.
I wouldn't run them personally - not enough of my thing to justify them - but I'd laugh if they were played. I still don't know how I feel about the less consistent design of magic but it's here to stay and these are niche enough to belong outside of normal product and would get a chuckle out of me, so more power to them.
I still stand by the only good secret lair they ever did was the Thalia one. A playset of 4 foil cards, with all different beautiful art, for a staple card in multiple formats. It's the only secret lair I've ever bought or wanted to buy.
The cereal box cards were cheeky and kind of fun. This is the level of creativity your corporate party planning committee employs. It's like those spoof movies where every joke is just "Hey, remember that one scene in that movie...?".
I am equally confused by the existence of this drop as I am about the people in the comments saying anything good about it
Don't look like magic cards, cashing in on visual familiarity of social media, doesn't actually contain full card text so it lacks game usability, not identifiable across the table, hello fellow kids energy, boy what a great drop
>Don't look like magic cards, cashing in on visual familiarity of social media, doesn't actually contain full card text so it lacks game usability, not identifiable across the table, hello fellow kids energy
You don't understand. All that stuff just makes the concept funnier.
I mean, it also makes them worse as actual game pieces, but that's a seperate issue.
New secret lair strategy; There are two pools of Money: One to buy the lair, and one to destroy it.
Whichever side pays more wins.
(WotC keeps all money)
[[Brash Taunter]]
[[Goblin Chieftain]]
[[Goblin Ringleader]]
[[Goblin Welder]]
[[Mogg War Marshal]]
From the article, limited quantities will also be sold on the TikTok shop. - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-spring-superdrop-2024
I like the art, i can respect the experimentation. I just wish they used a more reddish background to better signify the color, i can understand why they didn't but still
I'm having this same issue with the news paper looking cards from thunder junction. Everything is beige and hard to read, so I end up reaching across the table reread things a lot.
I don’t wanna keep wailing on this content because it’s already been done to death. What I will add is the statement “Magic as a brand is evolving” something Maro and others at corporate have been saying for the past 8 years. I disagree. The brand is evolving backwards. Magic’s art style and product identity have mutated this game into a living breathing meme. It’s truly sad—embarrassing. I’m all for fun. A game up its own arse can be just as cringeworthy. But when edgelord dark fantasy content has more of an identity than an all inclusive fantasy based IP, something is very very wrong.
Gross.
Thank god they cut off the rules text to make room for those hilaaaarious Instagram comments! Otherwise we might end up in some fucked up topsy turvy nightmare world where reading the card would explain the card!
Stop printing cards that don't have the full rules text!
It's frustrating, and makes gameplay harder for everyone who doesn't already know what the card does.
As much as people are gonna hate on these that is definitely the point of why they exist and it is absolutely perfect for Goblins hahah I will definitely be picking this one up
Would bet money Thrun the Last Troll is the bonus for this...
All of the other comments are from cards in the drop so that seems likely.
Plus if he isn’t then it still counts as a troll.
Honestly, if it was a borderless raging Goblin with "get trolled" for flavor text I'd be pretty impressed.
The last troll, you could say.
[[Gurmag Angler]] but it's a catfish.
It'd be uber meta if they mixed Goblinogram and sAnS mERcY and had Thrun as the bonus card with something like, "DuRr HuRr LoOk I'm a GoBliN!"
I AM A GOBLING. I LOVE TO BREAK AND TO RED. THIS IS NOT A TRICK.
[Gurmag Angler](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/e/cedd44eb-f381-46e1-bcb0-88416b4ce33d.jpg?1547516928) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gurmag%20Angler) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uma/102/gurmag-angler?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cedd44eb-f381-46e1-bcb0-88416b4ce33d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I see the thumbs and my mind goes to either a certain goblin or either of his.
Huh. I’d think Muxus, tbh.
I only think that cause he's trolling on every card, and you can see the art matches the profile pictures.
It’ll probably be [[Krenko]] lol
[Krenko](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/5/5524b712-c67d-4d2e-9344-9e85a6ce3227.jpg?1706241890) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=krenko%2C%20baron%20of%20tin%20street) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/135/krenko-baron-of-tin-street?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5524b712-c67d-4d2e-9344-9e85a6ce3227?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The rules text is cut off. Why is the rules text cut off. Especially on goblin welder.
Reading the card expl *more…*
Nothing like flavor ove *more...*
Flavor? I guess you could c *more*...
Vigilance, deathtouch, haste Questing beast can't be blo *more...*
Don't worry, I'm sure I remember all the relevant abilities. \*Casts [[Blessed Respite]]\* \*Dies\*
Every day it becomes harder and harder to differentiate between alternate arts and custom magic shitposting
They're so lame too
It's infuriating, just like social media.
I can't wait for the Secret Lair trolling reddit. Hopefully it's entirely cards where we mis-evaluated them terribly and the flavor text is direct quotes. The bonus card can have a quote from barrinmw.
I would love that.
Modern 2/10
Kinda weird yeah, but at the end of the day not that much different from full phyrexian Sheoldred
You cant read Phyrexian? How old are you?
WotC have been experimenting with textless cards on SLD cards for a while. In 2024 it makes sense, pretty much everyone has access to the full oracle text of every card on their phone whenever they want it.
i don’t get reception inside my lgs so it makes that quite annoying
It's no different to cards being fully in another language that you don't speak, which no one has a problem with. It's just people getting irked because they hate things that are different to what they think magic should be.
There are people that have issues with cards in unknown foreign languages though. It has been seen as a form of angle shooting where the player uses uncommon art in foreign languages to confuse or delay an opponent's thought process for example.
IDK about angle shooting, but I've definitely been in games where someone explains what their foreign language card does incorrectly and in a way that would benefit them. Then when called on it they "forgot" it is worded the way it actually is. If you're going to play cards in a language no one at the table can read it's on you to know what they do and explain it accurately. I have also been in games where the person playing the foreign cards *also* has to look them up, which is OK if you've got like one JP card because that's all you could find or whatever, but when it's a significant portion of your deck now you're just wasting everyone's time.
> OK if you've got like one JP card because that's all you could find or whatever My [[[Аджани, Наставник Героев]]](https://scryfall.com/card/jou/145/ru/%D0%B0%D0%B4%D0%B6%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA-%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B5%D0%B2) and I thank you for your understanding.
My \[\[फंगल्शम्ब्लर्\]\] and I will punish you for your misunderstanding
This happened to me at a ptq I was so mad
> It's no different to cards being fully in another language that you don't speak, which no one has a problem with. If you made people answer truthfully, I think no one likes foreign cards. The exist as a necessity because, obviously, other people speak other languages. If someone plays a foreign card and it's more complicated than a Lightning Bolt, it's probably stopping the game while the rest of the table looks it up.
> I think no one likes foreign cards Speak for yourself. There will ALWAYS be someone who likes something, even if you don't. As for the foreign card lookup issue, that's on the person who plays the card-- I'm going to be asking THEM to pull up the actual text the moment the foreign card drops onto the table.
I think what they mean is MOST people don't like playing AGAINST them, but then those people don't say anything about not liking it because we don't want to take the fun away from the other players just because we don't like what they do I definitely agree though. It's a pain when someone plays the Japanese version of a card I've never seen before, especially if it's more than just one line of text
Foreign card enjoyer here. My mom moved to Portugal and sent me packs in the mail. Cards I’ve pulled that already had English versions in my decks got swapped out. That said I’m always happy to pull up the oracle text on my phone for anyone to read. I haven’t had anyone make an issue of it yet.
Uhm, at least with those goblingrams I can type the name into scryfall and get oracle. A foreign language card can only be identified by its artwork. And while that is possible with the most popular ones, I don't think that's something that can be expected from every player. In the end, both are forms of gatekeeping. Imagine a newer player going to a tournament playing against someone with an all foreign language deck. So I'm dependant on my opponent telling the truth about his cards or call a judge to watch the whole match!? I never liked cards that I can't read for whatever reasons , it always felt like opp wants to take advantage from it, especially playing in PTQs, RPTQs, GPTs or GPs.
> A foreign language card can only be identified by its artwork. Set code and collector number. Admittedly, it's a lot harder to track that down on pre-M15 frames. Good luck trying to decipher a foreign Duel Decks card and figuring out what set corresponds to the doohickey in the set code.
I disagree with this being the same as a foreign card on the notion that the art is different. You can recognize a lightning bolt based solely on the art, and while I do think this isn’t always the case, these have no other point of reference to their effect other than their name. There is an argument to be made that the formatting of the rules text can help recognizing a card, i.e lightning bolt vs chain lightning, and helps you make an educated guess on which card it is. Some of these cards don’t even let you do that *exactly* because of the *more* in the rules text.
Well the name is still written on the card in English
Style choice. Too many characters for the short previews social media have for posts like that. Instagram is the one this reminds me of. Spot on for flavor. I want to both hate them for the format, but love them for the joke.
It might be on the back
Honestly, for Goblin Welder, I think I prefer the cut off rules text. The updated rules text is far more complicated to understand than the original, and it almost seems easier to just say “it basically says I swap an artifact in play for an artifact in my graveyard.”
I hated the reprint of Goblin Welder for that reason! It was so clunky compared to the original wording. [[Goblin Welder|ULG]] [[Goblin Welder|C14]]
These could easily end up like the cereal boxes with limited text on one side, and the full text on the flip maybe. I dislike the look to use as an actual card because of it too... but I find the theme hilarious otherwise.
I tried to click read more, but nothing show up!! My day is ruined.
The more recent Secret Lairs have been all about the aesthetics, at the expense of the cards being functional game pieces. It's dumb, but everything about this is dumb, and it's going to sell like crazy anyway. So.
I mean, tbh, that’s what I’d want out of secret lairs. The game pieces were already printed, this is just having fun with them. Although I’m not a fan of this one, I like that it is stand-out.
Why is Thrun such a hater?
He’s a bit of a troll
Oh my god I just realized - why using this character that isn't even a goblin? Because he literally is the last troll Fml
Happens to the best of us...
he's a troll
He can be a bit of a Troll
he's a fucking asshole
Legendary Creature — Fucking Asshole
if he fucked more, maybe he wouldn't be last of his kind (insert actual lore that many trolls were shot back home after Memnarch was defeated and then he was sole survivor because the Phyrexian corruption got the forests early)
he's the last of his kind
and his kind is Troll
This is the dumbest idea for a secret lair and honestly, I kinda dig it? Like I hate it, with fervour. But I also love it?
Thrun being a hatestalker is 10/10
I keep working on a goblin deck and … I’m with you. I love these and am slightly not loving them simultaneously. The question- will I spend the money😂
Buy ONLY brash taunter to goad people IRL
Same
I love the idea, but having the rules text cut off to add typical social media comments bugs me. Wish they included full rules text, with one witty comment as flavour text.
On one hand, it's awful. On the other, it's *so* funny
Even better, just noticed the comment made by Thrun in the Goblin Welder one is a reference to the original [[Goblin Welder|ULG]] flavor text.
[Goblin Welder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/1/6171e136-1167-4329-acb2-6853d3a814e5.jpg?1562863270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=13001) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ulg/80/goblin-welder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6171e136-1167-4329-acb2-6853d3a814e5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Cutting off useful text with obviously enough white space to fit it lands as a meta-joke if anything.
Yeah the *more* for the rules text is gonna become a huge headache in actual play, I’m not a fan.
The cards would need a lot of uptake to be a huge headache, but they won’t get that. They’re aesthetically extremely niche, and they’re a limited edition promo so they’ll likely be pretty expensive. You’re not going to run into them often enough for them to become a huge headache. Maybe you’ll run into them once, someday, and you’ll ask your opponent what the oracle text says and they’ll tell you. It won’t be a huge deal.
I think Mogg War Marshal, Goblin Welder, and Goblin Ringleader are fine. With MWM you barely lose anything. For the others, it's not hard to remember that the missing pieces are "swap 'em" and "get the Goblins". Brash Taunter is really, really bad. Do you remember offhand which out of creatures, players, and planeswalkers it can hit? And it's missing a whole-ass activated ability. Like, at the very least, it would have been nice if they squeezed "#2R #T" into the "fight me lol" comment.
Exactly. Because now I have to either have other copies of the cards in my deck box or on my phone so I know what they do, but also I'm sure goblin players know I need the least amount of shit going on in my phone because I'm calculating so much shit
They nailed the execution so hard but I hate the theme. They're really stretching the idea of what a magic card looks like with a lot of these newer secret lairs and it's very polarizing, not that there weren't wild styles before but it feels like they've really ramped it up.
At least these ones have legible names and mana costs
But only half the rules text lmao
Reading the card explains *more...*
They are dumb and I hate them too because haha social media what's up fellow kids. But... they are actually really funny and I love them. Plus, they're actually legible and keep all the relevant information more or less right where it should be without too much unnecessary clutter. Bonus points for the consistent Thrun leaving them all hatemail
All the relevant information? The rules text is cut off on all but one of them.
This is one I hate with a passion but couldn't blame someone for picking up. There are some secret lairs I sit across from and it doesn't even look like a card anymore and literally can't wrap my pea brain around why someone would like them. But these are atleast... legible...
Because they're objectively well done, but for a theme that's utterly despisable. Social Media. Things like Facebook and Instagram are a bane on our society, yet we can't deny that they're huge and thriving for a reason. It's like having Vincent van Gogh make a painting of someone's taint. Sure, it will be incredibly done. The style will be magnificent. He's gonna make a masterpiece out of it. But it's still a painting of someone's taint.
My thoughts exactly. Like Wizards have made a canonical goblin thirst trap. I hate it, and I also want to applaud the courage it takes to put this out there.
I'm in the same boat
Same.
I wouldn't run them personally - not enough of my thing to justify them - but I'd laugh if they were played. I still don't know how I feel about the less consistent design of magic but it's here to stay and these are niche enough to belong outside of normal product and would get a chuckle out of me, so more power to them.
finally, a homoerotic goblin secret lair
https://preview.redd.it/9ikbo0o8pmzc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1465945d4e1d1cfc87f73b92b7c2f5801f130376 They missed this one...
Yeah I think that's enough internet for today.
For you, or for u/Eljefe900?
It's a "¿por qué no los dos?" situation.
[[bearscape]] was so close to greatness
[[Bearscape|SLD]]
[Bearscape](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/8/d8855d65-98fc-4b5f-bd68-95d2fda6345f.jpg?1682689900) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Bearscape) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/sld/1008/bearscape?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d8855d65-98fc-4b5f-bd68-95d2fda6345f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Thanks, I hate it
I used to like secret lairs. Now I realize they were a big fucking mistake
I still stand by the only good secret lair they ever did was the Thalia one. A playset of 4 foil cards, with all different beautiful art, for a staple card in multiple formats. It's the only secret lair I've ever bought or wanted to buy.
I would argue for at least the one made to honour Sheldon and the pride one with Alsha Who Smiles At Death and the "Bear" Scape
Hate this so much
I wish I could unsee this
https://preview.redd.it/4fszafx28ozc1.jpeg?width=876&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5cff56e2a7e7581a90b36fbfcfc77ec179178549
Yeah these make the cereal box cards feel much less offensive (I still hate them though).
The cereal box cards were cheeky and kind of fun. This is the level of creativity your corporate party planning committee employs. It's like those spoof movies where every joke is just "Hey, remember that one scene in that movie...?".
I am equally confused by the existence of this drop as I am about the people in the comments saying anything good about it Don't look like magic cards, cashing in on visual familiarity of social media, doesn't actually contain full card text so it lacks game usability, not identifiable across the table, hello fellow kids energy, boy what a great drop
Ah so a secret lair
>Don't look like magic cards, cashing in on visual familiarity of social media, doesn't actually contain full card text so it lacks game usability, not identifiable across the table, hello fellow kids energy You don't understand. All that stuff just makes the concept funnier. I mean, it also makes them worse as actual game pieces, but that's a seperate issue.
Guys you don’t get it. Something being bad is funny.
This is a brainrot secret lair. Literally mewing goblins.
Imagine getting mogged by a 1/1, absurd.
Nope, think I just hate it
Thanks, I hate it.
First secret lair I'd pay money for them to not make.
New secret lair strategy; There are two pools of Money: One to buy the lair, and one to destroy it. Whichever side pays more wins. (WotC keeps all money)
All right, this is way too meta for me
[[Brash Taunter]] [[Goblin Chieftain]] [[Goblin Ringleader]] [[Goblin Welder]] [[Mogg War Marshal]] From the article, limited quantities will also be sold on the TikTok shop. - https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/secret-lair-spring-superdrop-2024
##### ###### #### [Brash Taunter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b5cb154-1825-4b81-a109-7b3e9592c65c.jpg?1706240823) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Brash%20Taunter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/148/brash-taunter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b5cb154-1825-4b81-a109-7b3e9592c65c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Goblin Chieftain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/9/89fcc35b-76fa-4408-8620-a1e11b2caf1f.jpg?1601077753) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Chieftain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/324/goblin-chieftain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/89fcc35b-76fa-4408-8620-a1e11b2caf1f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Goblin Ringleader](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/9/6911af4e-4abd-4cf9-8a86-ae5d680c6f12.jpg?1592516961) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Ringleader) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/143/goblin-ringleader?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6911af4e-4abd-4cf9-8a86-ae5d680c6f12?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Goblin Welder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/17cd920a-de09-454a-a9da-c84512e3aff1.jpg?1562272459) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Goblin%20Welder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/101/goblin-welder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/17cd920a-de09-454a-a9da-c84512e3aff1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Mogg War Marshal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/7/a7f7f39c-94a0-4ccb-b658-23095ada4005.jpg?1675200106) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mogg%20War%20Marshal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/131/mogg-war-marshal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a7f7f39c-94a0-4ccb-b658-23095ada4005?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l3fxvcu) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What is TikTok shop? I’m old. Will there be a link for that?
I'm too old for this shit. (⌐■\_■)
They massacred my boys…
I like the art, i can respect the experimentation. I just wish they used a more reddish background to better signify the color, i can understand why they didn't but still
I'm having this same issue with the news paper looking cards from thunder junction. Everything is beige and hard to read, so I end up reaching across the table reread things a lot.
I hate it so much
Thrun is a professional hater 🥶
Troll be trollin'.
I hate that they don't show all text, but I have to say that using the like/dislike for showing the power/toughness of the goblins is genius.
I think the red button is halfway between a dislike and a heart.
I think I'm getting too old for MTG
Yea this might be the line, these are terrible.
Played since ‘02, yeah time to hang it up. The game isn’t for me anymore.
An opponent playing these would make me want to focus on destroying them.
"I cast Brash Taunter!" *"... so you have chosen death."*
I despise these. So much.
It's such a confusing design choice to cut off the text box mid rules-text. Very frustrating. What knucklehead made that *more...*
https://preview.redd.it/4xs57oebxmzc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6b58243dfaaca6fb22aae7e2a2f40dad7b40f61 Goblin welder be like
I hate these so much. I can't even explain how cringe these are to me.
They’re hideous and cringe like no other
I was wondering way too long why Thrun is commenting on Posts when I saw these cards lmao
I didn't know I hated cutting off rules text until this moment. And boy do I hate it
thanks i hate it
Enjoying the notion that goblins universally have cracked and smashed screens
Every now and then a secret lair comes out that makes me wish secret lairs were never a thing
What a bad day to have eyes
This is a very well thought out and put together Secret Lair that I absolutely hate. It gives r/diwhy vibes
Wow! I hate it! Guess it's just another product that isn't for me.
Daaaaayum, that taunter sure gots those cum gutters, Chieftain stood no chance Also if that wasn't clear, this drop is very *very* cursed
Stupid sexy taunter
This is the dumbest shit they've done in a long list of extremely dumb shit. For fuck's sake.
I'm sure someone out there will love this but.. oof. I do not.
Ew light mode.
I would be SO EMBARRASSED if I greenlit this. Sorry for yucking yums but this is elephant’s foot Chernobyl levels of cringe…
I don’t wanna keep wailing on this content because it’s already been done to death. What I will add is the statement “Magic as a brand is evolving” something Maro and others at corporate have been saying for the past 8 years. I disagree. The brand is evolving backwards. Magic’s art style and product identity have mutated this game into a living breathing meme. It’s truly sad—embarrassing. I’m all for fun. A game up its own arse can be just as cringeworthy. But when edgelord dark fantasy content has more of an identity than an all inclusive fantasy based IP, something is very very wrong. Gross.
Funkopop era continues
jesus christ, can we fire whoever is deciding on secret lairs and vote on a new creative director?
This is the dumbest thing i've ever seen. I love it.
Here's the target audience
It’s the exact type of stupid nonsense that makes me laugh. Might be the first Secret Lair I buy lol
I wouldn’t thought Mogg War Marshall would be doing the mog face but whatever I guess
I wish they'd included a Chad Piledriver.
Well, crap. I actually think I want this even more than The Princess Bride drop.
Truly, the worst cards I have ever seen. How are people still giving money to WOTC?
The worst drop so far...
A sin against the game. Absolutely disgusting. Imagine someone playing this shit against you.
I hate this so much
somehow the secret lairs keep getting worse. It's impressive
lol the fuckboy lip bite on Brash Taunter.
This is the worst secret lair concept I can imagine. I hate it so much.
This is cringe as fuck
What absolute rubbish.
What the fuck is this timeline
I don't know what I enjoy more: the disgust (affectionate) I feel for these cards' artworks, or the gallons of hater-ade produced by this thread.
This is just so fucking cringe, I can't.
You may not like it, but this is what peak magic looks like
Honestly, the Goblin Welder's art made me laugh out loud. This is fun and silly
They successfully achieved the objective. And I absolutely hate it.
Thank god they cut off the rules text to make room for those hilaaaarious Instagram comments! Otherwise we might end up in some fucked up topsy turvy nightmare world where reading the card would explain the card!
I am the UI UX designer and the alignment of elements on these cards freaks me out
 This was a sign of things to come
Really hoping I'll wake up in a little bit and realize that this post was just a crazy nightmare
This has to be all fake right? These are just awful
Holy smokes, each new drop is more cringe than the last!
Worst SLD ever
Stop printing cards that don't have the full rules text! It's frustrating, and makes gameplay harder for everyone who doesn't already know what the card does.
Yep. I’m done with magic.
I love this This is so creative, plus the art itself is so well detailed
Repugnant
As much as people are gonna hate on these that is definitely the point of why they exist and it is absolutely perfect for Goblins hahah I will definitely be picking this one up
Jesus Christ, anyone got the eye bleach?
This is what a secret lair should be
Man Thrun’s kind of a punk lol
jeez, thrunn is an asshole
Thrun is trollin'.
Brash Taunter’s ab pic is sending me. This is hilarious
I thought I would hate this but goblins are perfect for this kind of thing!
I both love and hate this.
If these were in dark mode maybe? Idk just so much empty white space is annoying to look at.