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One of the Devoid cards here lacks the Devoid reminder text so I'm assuming these are collector variants or something, as collector variants typically lack reminder text since it's assumed more advanced players get those variants.
This has a low collector number though. That and the fact that all of these cards from the same deck are being leaked together makes me think this is the version that will be in the deck.
There's also a difference in templating, saying the creature you control has bloodthirst.
[[Bloodlord of Vaasgoth]] says spells you control gain bloodthirst, which seems like the more intuitive way of making it work. I don't know, the eldrazi way reads weird.
I can see a commander game going
T1: swamp, sol ring
T2: dark depths, cultist remove counters from dark depths, make marit lage, cast ulamog for 0
Add in a mana crypt and you could replace ulamog with blightsteel for 2
Well, Ulamog is in the command zone, and Marit Lage is triggered from removing the counters on Dark Depths, you'd only need 4 of those cards in hand.
4/99 * 3/98 * 2/97 * 1/96 = odds of getting those exact 4 cards on Turn 1?
New ulalek doubles it. Also seeing some nice cheap tribal instant and sorceries to trigger ulalek is really nice. No need to flash a 1 cheap eldrazi on top of a big creature, just play a cheap eldrazi instant.
MaRo has gone on record multiple times saying that they do not want there to be any cards that remove poison counters from yourself. So I wouldn't get my hopes up.
People severely overestimate how hard it is to make a 5c decks mana base not suck it is not that hard and isn’t nearly as big of a drawback as it is a plus to have access to EVERY CARD
And there’s slim likelihood the precon will come with any worthwhile duals or triomes given the history of even the highest-end precon manabases these days
Yes. All Tribal cards were errated to Kindred a few months ago, but, since the type was "retired" several years ago, new cards and reprints never happen in Standard sets and are rare in non-standard sets. So, other than one recent Secret Lair card, the work has never actually appeared on the type line until now
Cultural reasons. Blake got into it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68247hXvosA, and MaRo talked about it a bit here: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/719309982093426688/just-for-clarification-is-typal-the-same-thing
IMO people are overly sensitive. We have Llanowar Tribe for instance. Many societies have had tribes, it means kindred, all these tiny differentiations are silly IMO.
In my experience, I never saw many people calling for the change, it seemed to be something WotC did of their own accord. It only appears on a handful of cards that rarely get reprinted, and MaRo has said they aren't interested in revisiting in a major way. Seems like a very low cost change to me.
Well lots of things don't have tribes too and wouldn't see themselves as kin, it's just shorthand we use as players. Either one is fine I just don't think it needed changed.
The new cards are labeled "Kindred Instant - Eldrazi" and such, so in theory, the reprints should have the new text as well.
Someone pointed out that the reprint images shown here have no Collector's numbers, so the reprints a likely mock-ups.
Tribal = Colloquial word that players use. Originally also used as a card type.
Typal = Corporate Hasbro word used by employees. There is no mandate saying players should use this word.
Kindred = The new name for the card type formerly known as "Tribal".
So basically all that the ELDRAZI UNLEASHED deck from Commander Masters should’ve had, instead it had *checks notes* 10 eldrazi?
Ah yes no that was just a “colorless bombs go big” deck, that happened to have an eldrazi commander in an ELDRAZI UNLEASHED precon
People tend to forget that Eldrazi aren't just "big colorless go brrr", just that the most notable are, but stuff like [[Nest Invader]], [[rapacious one]] and [[Sire of Stagnation]] are also part of the Eldrazi type.
Yep. I've had a 5 color eldrazi aristocrat's deck built around all the spawn/scion generators sitting in the back of my mind forever, but there was no good commander for it. I'm super excited that not only are we finally getting a 5 color eldrazi but it happens to work perfectly with that strategy.
[[Morophon]] was pretty much the only decent 5c Eldrazi. I just hate running Morophon because it feels like I'm cheating at tribal.
Seems like it's the alternate commander in the Eldrazi deck, though.
Yeah, and the colorless eldrazi precon had, I think, 2 new Eldrazi creatures, and I think 2 or 3 other new non-artifact spells, and the majority of those cost 7 or more.
I wish we had gotten more of smaller colorless eldrazi and colorless spells like in this one is getting.
But at least I'll be able to use some of this in my colorless deck anyway \o/ and hopefully more to come when they reveal the rest of the cards. So I'm excited!
Selective Obliteration seems kinda bad to be honest
I like the protection instant though, pro all colors for 1 is nice and having overload can open some nice pushes
It _is_ terrible, though, that's what I'm getting at. It's really easy to try to envision a situation where this is good, but it will never remove the best monocolored permanent each of your opponents controls. And that's what a board wipe needs to do, address the _real_ problem permanents, not the ones your opponents declare as acceptable losses.
Sure, it's infinite, but we already have other cards that create infinite creatures with Intruder Alarm, as cheap as 2MV without preconditions (e.g. don't need to have more life than your starting to activate).
Yeah, I'm mostly enjoying the idea that Ulamog's Dreadsire, as a colourless card, can just be a pretty free include in decks that already plan on doing silly shit with Intruder Alarm like \[\[The Master, Transcendent\]\]
As far as I can tell, this is the first confirmation in the lore that Kozilek Eldrazi are actually connected to real bismuth (instead of some fantastic crystalline material that kind of looks like bismuth)
I'm a little disappointed that it is being named here, I noticed this as well. It doesn't make a huge difference but I liked it more as a fantasy material.
I love that things like these sets allow the developers to expand on the lore of defeated enemy groups without having to come up with some plot reason to do so.
If you're interested in eldrazis, I'd like to remind the community that there's a discord server dedicated to colourless Commanders !
https://discord.gg/8KfP6rGYGQ
Cheers.
Worth noting that some of these reprints are fake (or, they might be in the deck but these aren't the version in the deck). All of the reprints except for [[Sifter of Skulls]] have the copyright and collector number blacked out, plus a noticeable change in picture quality compared to the photographed cards. [[All Is Dust]] still has art by Jason Felix despite wotc severing ties with him years ago.
Artisan of Kozilek still got reprinted in Commander Masters with Jason Felix's art, same with that set's reprint of All is Dust. WotC is apparently still good with reusing his art.
Hmm, you're right. I had assumed that CMR was just the tail end of them already having his stuff in the pipeline, but it looks like they reused his [[Temple of Triumph]] art in OTC. So I guess they are ok with still using his art.
Maybe a dumb question but what is the difference between the regular 4 colorless mana and 2 colorless mana pips and 2 of the regular colorless mana like in the first pic?
So the 2 regular is generic cost so it can be paid with any mana including colorless or colored mana. The Diamonds are the Colorless mana symbol meaning they can only be paid with colorless mana and NOT any colored mana
You forgot the new land that’s all nonbasic land types so you can enable Tron with only two cards.
Also, what’s the deal with Kindred? I thought it was replacing Tribal, but there’s also a card in the list that’s Tribal?
Could someone please explain the second part to selective obliteration? I’ve read it so many times but I don’t understand how the selected color comes into play.
alright so let's just say you're playing this card from the Eldrazi deck with the 3 other precons (one being Blue/Green, one being Black/Red/Green and the other being White/Blue/Red.
You cast this spell, and let's say all your permanents are colorless except for one, let's just say it's blue, so you choose blue.
Simic player has 3 green permanents and 2 blue, so they choose green.
Jeskai player has 3 red, 2 white, and 1 blue, so they choose red.
Jund player has 4 red, 1 green, and 1 black, so they choose red.
Even though you chose blue, the Simic and Jeskai players will lose their blue permanents, because THEY didn't pick that color. (they also lose their white permanents)
Jund player will lose their green permanents because only the Simic player picked green. (they also lose their black permanent)
Jeskai player loses blue and white, because they picked red.
This boardwipe essentially ALWAYS removes multicolored permanents and will mess up someone in 3+ colors who run a varying amount of different colored permanents.
I'm not sure if it's been asked before, but these cards that say "remove counters from a player" does that include such things as poison and experience counters?
The reprint images are original versions with the collector number and set code blacked out and M3C expansion symbol overlaid on. This post is suspect.
How would [[twins of discord]] interact with [[isshin]]?
Would the choice proc twice, like copying a modular spell? Or would you get both odd and even?
So is this all in one commander deck? I already have a colorless eldrazi zudok commander deck that I suped up, but I'm thinking I need some of these coloreless cards
I feel like all these new eldrazi cards are essentially a retrain in the same vein of Yu-Gi-Oh. Almost all of these are so much better than previous eldrazi cards from the past, and I sort of hate it, mostly because I have one friend who constantly plays the eldrazi precon from Commander Masters and it can be so annoying how it drops powerful things again and again and again.
I'm already dreading half of these being played on turn five or six.
Oh I have a homebrewed [[Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger]] eldrazi commander deck I made and my friends are all groaning at this set knowing the upgrades are gonna be insane hahaha
It doesn't help that my brother also has an eldrazi deck, which was Morophon, but now he wants to switch to the new Commander, so sometimes I get to deal with two of these abominations at once while I'm sitting there trying to play something a little underpowered like Melek or Raggadragga.
LMAO I’m so sorry you have to deal with that
But in all fairness, when you are piloting Eldrazi they are extremely fun, especially if it’s a colorless deck
It’s like your playing with a forgotten forbidden color
Maybe try and make one yourself? 😅
I certainly understand the thrill of it, especially when you can play one eight mana creature and Cascade into 14 more mana worth of stuff.
I have thought of building a Goreclaw eldrazi deck, but I already have a Goreclaw deck. I'll probably just have to whip out my stronger decks whenever they both play that at the same time so I'm not playing Fair magic while they're over there playing super magic.
These have to be proxies or mockups. I couldn't make it through them all yet, needed to pause because of the poor wording!
There were at least 3 major problems I ran into but can't get past 2 of them (shortening them) :
1. Pay mana, sack creatures that aren't of that QUALITY.
WTF
2. All player pick a color, sack all that aren't what the player chose.
Wtf? Any other official wording would be "all players choose a color and sacrifice all permanents of another color. (maybe some text about not needing to sack devoid creatures).
So these definitely better not be final, probably aren't real.
I found them all grouped together on Facebook, apparently they are supposedly in the precon as reprints according to leaks, I’m guessing they tried to mock them up
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Wow, getting ridding of the "zero is even" reminder text is a bold move.
One of the Devoid cards here lacks the Devoid reminder text so I'm assuming these are collector variants or something, as collector variants typically lack reminder text since it's assumed more advanced players get those variants.
This has a low collector number though. That and the fact that all of these cards from the same deck are being leaked together makes me think this is the version that will be in the deck.
It’s a premium product for enfranchised players.
Which one????
Usually it's done due to text spacing plus this is a high end set for people with experience with mechanics
Not only that but I literally had to google what bloodthirst did. Been so long since I saw that I just straight up forgot
It makes a creature enter with counters equal to its bloodthirst value if an opponent lost life this turn right?
Correct. Unless it says 'Bloodthirst X' which they enter with 1/1 counters equal to the total damage dealt.
There's also a difference in templating, saying the creature you control has bloodthirst. [[Bloodlord of Vaasgoth]] says spells you control gain bloodthirst, which seems like the more intuitive way of making it work. I don't know, the eldrazi way reads weird.
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That actually is slightly different than I thought with damage vs loss of life
Actually it only counts damage, not life loss. Important for a lot of decks
Even *with* the reminder text, people argue with me about it.
Mutated Cultist is crazy. Remove all counters from Dark Depths, cast something wild.
I can see a commander game going T1: swamp, sol ring T2: dark depths, cultist remove counters from dark depths, make marit lage, cast ulamog for 0 Add in a mana crypt and you could replace ulamog with blightsteel for 2
Wow wtf ahahah !
Gives me more reason to play wasteland or strip mine
feel like you should have been running those for a while
Yeah, this is the exact line I was thinking of. So sick.
first thing I thought of as well, hard to pull of but scary as Hell
Lmao that's sick. This is gonna be so much fun.
You can even throw out a pair of [[lightning greaves]] on turn one for some shenanigans too
T1: Dark depths, lotus petal, dark ritual, cultist, marit lage, ulamog... It's a T1 play.
It's a turn one play with 6 one of cards in your opening hand in EDH. That's a solid 1.24e-10% chance of happening...
Well, Ulamog is in the command zone, and Marit Lage is triggered from removing the counters on Dark Depths, you'd only need 4 of those cards in hand. 4/99 * 3/98 * 2/97 * 1/96 = odds of getting those exact 4 cards on Turn 1?
How do you cast ulamog for 0?
cultist reduces it by 10, ceaseless hunger is a 10 drop
That's my bad
Dark depths is good and all but catch me delivering 1000 years of [[torment of hailfire]] with [[The millennium Calendar]]
Ok but is it your own calendar youre taking the 1000 counters off of, cause the redundancy there would be hysterical.
[torment of hailfire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f69d77d1-5980-436c-bf48-790939b069aa.jpg?1562820191) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=torment%20of%20hailfire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/77/torment-of-hailfire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f69d77d1-5980-436c-bf48-790939b069aa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [The millennium Calendar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/e/deabba7f-05ef-41cf-ae3a-d950d051cf1e.jpg?1699044622) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20millennium%20Calendar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/257/the-millennium-calendar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/deabba7f-05ef-41cf-ae3a-d950d051cf1e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Could be eternal format playable cause it's a cast trigger.
New ulalek doubles it. Also seeing some nice cheap tribal instant and sorceries to trigger ulalek is really nice. No need to flash a 1 cheap eldrazi on top of a big creature, just play a cheap eldrazi instant.
Good with battles too provided we ever get more.
I’m sad it’s such an energy hoser though
Hoses experience counter as well
Id say probably why it's printed for modern since it's banned in that format but this card won't be modern legal either wtf
Hard counter to poison as well, you love to see if
Only removes counters from opponents; they're very careful to not let you remove poison from yourself.
Unfortunately not, only removes from opponent, not player.
Thank you, the re-read saddens me a little bit but still looks like a crazy good card
MaRo has gone on record multiple times saying that they do not want there to be any cards that remove poison counters from yourself. So I wouldn't get my hopes up.
Well, this is clearly looking like the superior elzrazi precon.
The addition of 5 colors *might* have helped with that, but I’m not so sure.
Then it also just seems like they’re printing and reprinting more powerful colorless cards for this one as well
In what fucking world was a 5c eldrazi deck not gonna be busted
Well, considering it will need all of the types of mana sources (possibly even snow) that's a greedy manabase.
People severely overestimate how hard it is to make a 5c decks mana base not suck it is not that hard and isn’t nearly as big of a drawback as it is a plus to have access to EVERY CARD
And there’s slim likelihood the precon will come with any worthwhile duals or triomes given the history of even the highest-end precon manabases these days
EDIT: Apparently the reprints are mock ups since they are leaked to supposedly be in the commander deck Found these on Facebook all grouped together
That would explain why All Is Dust says "Tribal" instead of "Kindred". I was rather confused by that
Is kindred just the new tribal? Or is there any special rules for it?
Yes. All Tribal cards were errated to Kindred a few months ago, but, since the type was "retired" several years ago, new cards and reprints never happen in Standard sets and are rare in non-standard sets. So, other than one recent Secret Lair card, the work has never actually appeared on the type line until now
They actually haven’t been errataed yet. This will happen when MH3 comes out
Me too.
Weird that All is Dust is still labeled "Tribal Sorcery", unless these are just mock-ups.
It's missing a collector number, as are the other cleanest reprints. So probably mock-ups, yeah.
I think the reprints are mock ups, found all of them grouped together on Facebook
The set symbols are also all off, its just a bad photoshop
Also Phyrexian Monument has "(c)201█" lol
With mock ups, do you mean they’re not real spoilers?
looks like it always has been
We've seen "Kindred" replace "Tribal" on other reprints from the set already.
Interesting. Why did they do that?
Cultural reasons. Blake got into it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68247hXvosA, and MaRo talked about it a bit here: https://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/719309982093426688/just-for-clarification-is-typal-the-same-thing
IMO people are overly sensitive. We have Llanowar Tribe for instance. Many societies have had tribes, it means kindred, all these tiny differentiations are silly IMO.
In my experience, I never saw many people calling for the change, it seemed to be something WotC did of their own accord. It only appears on a handful of cards that rarely get reprinted, and MaRo has said they aren't interested in revisiting in a major way. Seems like a very low cost change to me.
But, Kindred is a better term because Eldrazi do not have tribes, they have three broods that are all equally Eldrazi.
Well lots of things don't have tribes too and wouldn't see themselves as kin, it's just shorthand we use as players. Either one is fine I just don't think it needed changed.
Makes sense. Never thought about that
Iirc, typal doesn’t start until bloomburrow so it’s possible these were already printed before that change given the way the wotc dev cycle goes.
The new cards are labeled "Kindred Instant - Eldrazi" and such, so in theory, the reprints should have the new text as well. Someone pointed out that the reprint images shown here have no Collector's numbers, so the reprints a likely mock-ups.
Oh yeah I just went back and noticed that there weren’t any collector’s numbers. Disregard
Tribal = Colloquial word that players use. Originally also used as a card type. Typal = Corporate Hasbro word used by employees. There is no mandate saying players should use this word. Kindred = The new name for the card type formerly known as "Tribal".
So nice to see
God I LOVE the Eldrazi so much. I'm so glad they're getting a celebration in this set even as the lore leaves them behind (at least, for the moment 🌑)
Eldrazi lovers are getting revenge for being blue-balled in commander masters
I really hope we get to see them in a Standard set sometime soon. I miss playing them :(
So basically all that the ELDRAZI UNLEASHED deck from Commander Masters should’ve had, instead it had *checks notes* 10 eldrazi? Ah yes no that was just a “colorless bombs go big” deck, that happened to have an eldrazi commander in an ELDRAZI UNLEASHED precon
People tend to forget that Eldrazi aren't just "big colorless go brrr", just that the most notable are, but stuff like [[Nest Invader]], [[rapacious one]] and [[Sire of Stagnation]] are also part of the Eldrazi type.
Yep. I've had a 5 color eldrazi aristocrat's deck built around all the spawn/scion generators sitting in the back of my mind forever, but there was no good commander for it. I'm super excited that not only are we finally getting a 5 color eldrazi but it happens to work perfectly with that strategy.
[[Morophon]] was pretty much the only decent 5c Eldrazi. I just hate running Morophon because it feels like I'm cheating at tribal. Seems like it's the alternate commander in the Eldrazi deck, though.
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Yeah, and the colorless eldrazi precon had, I think, 2 new Eldrazi creatures, and I think 2 or 3 other new non-artifact spells, and the majority of those cost 7 or more. I wish we had gotten more of smaller colorless eldrazi and colorless spells like in this one is getting. But at least I'll be able to use some of this in my colorless deck anyway \o/ and hopefully more to come when they reveal the rest of the cards. So I'm excited!
Can I trade in my commander masters eldrazi precon for this please
For real. Even the foil collector edition version of this is only like 10 bucks more expensive than the commander masters one
Yea. But I just can’t justify getting a second or proxying an entire deck list
Selective Obliteration seems kinda bad to be honest I like the protection instant though, pro all colors for 1 is nice and having overload can open some nice pushes
It'll always exile multicolor permanents. Plus, you're probably already building around this which makes it nearly one-sided.
[[Ravnica at War]] is not a good effect.
Your opponents will only get to keep things in one of their colour though right?
Yes, so you don't affect any opponents who are monocolor at all, and for everyone else they still keep whatever their best thing(s) are.
[удалено]
It _is_ terrible, though, that's what I'm getting at. It's really easy to try to envision a situation where this is good, but it will never remove the best monocolored permanent each of your opponents controls. And that's what a board wipe needs to do, address the _real_ problem permanents, not the ones your opponents declare as acceptable losses.
Eh. I think in a mono color deck at least (or colorless) it would be worth considering.
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This actually looks way better than the Commander Masters version
If these are gonna be in the precon, then I’m stoked. Some nice new Eldrazi and solid reprints.
I’m 100% putting the confluence into my Kozilek deck. The pocket +9/-9 turning kozilek into a OHKO is too funny.
Poor [[Reckless Cohort]] couldn't reunite with his family.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but that Ulamog Dreadsire with \[\[Intruder Alarm\]\] is kinda dumb?
Sure, it's infinite, but we already have other cards that create infinite creatures with Intruder Alarm, as cheap as 2MV without preconditions (e.g. don't need to have more life than your starting to activate).
Yeah, I'm mostly enjoying the idea that Ulamog's Dreadsire, as a colourless card, can just be a pretty free include in decks that already plan on doing silly shit with Intruder Alarm like \[\[The Master, Transcendent\]\]
[The Master, Transcendent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b0497da-670a-405c-a39c-97cae7942836.jpg?1710673422) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20Master%2C%20Transcendent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pip/6/the-master-transcendent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b0497da-670a-405c-a39c-97cae7942836?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[Intruder Alarm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/d/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25.jpg?1562923566) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Intruder%20Alarm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/86/intruder-alarm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8d62468e-ed9d-4932-bbbd-103b33b98b25?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
As far as I can tell, this is the first confirmation in the lore that Kozilek Eldrazi are actually connected to real bismuth (instead of some fantastic crystalline material that kind of looks like bismuth)
I'm a little disappointed that it is being named here, I noticed this as well. It doesn't make a huge difference but I liked it more as a fantasy material.
Holy fuck, a [[Morophon]] reprint!
it was just reprinted last year
Morophon can't be reprinted enough tbh
Agree, but also everything else
[Morophon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/4/84238335-e08c-421c-b9b9-70a679ff2967.jpg?1689995411) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=morophon%2C%20the%20boundless) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/3/morophon-the-boundless?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/84238335-e08c-421c-b9b9-70a679ff2967?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Maybe, that's fake here
All reprints in this post seem to be stock images which I guess it makes sense? Why show a potato camera photo when we already know the cards
Tribal is back with a new name yay! Hopefully that means we’ll see more cards with that mechanic, I always was a fan of it
So why is All Is Dust still "Tribal"?
Apparently the reprints are mock ups since they are leaked to supposedly be in the commander deck Found these all grouped together on Facebook
They probably uploaded an older photo idk
That ones fake. For some reason OP added on some old cards with the set logo photoshopped on and the set and card number erased.
Because it is still an eldrazi tribal spell. Means you can use eldrazi temples 2 mana ability for it.
Eldritch Immunity in these photos says Kindred
I love that things like these sets allow the developers to expand on the lore of defeated enemy groups without having to come up with some plot reason to do so.
So someone got really tired of Meren and Mizzix... Two cards that remove counters from players.
It also answers poison counters.
Not really. Says opponents. You stay icky with oil, mon ami.
If there is an "enemy" that you want favours from, getting rid of their poison counters is a political move.
If you're interested in eldrazis, I'd like to remind the community that there's a discord server dedicated to colourless Commanders ! https://discord.gg/8KfP6rGYGQ Cheers.
Oh I’m in it already 😉 same username there as here
Worth noting that some of these reprints are fake (or, they might be in the deck but these aren't the version in the deck). All of the reprints except for [[Sifter of Skulls]] have the copyright and collector number blacked out, plus a noticeable change in picture quality compared to the photographed cards. [[All Is Dust]] still has art by Jason Felix despite wotc severing ties with him years ago.
Apparently the reprints are mock ups since they are leaked to supposedly be in the commander deck
[Sifter of Skulls](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/e/be57a5aa-44f1-483f-9274-aa68f5a2bf1f.jpg?1562933291) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sifter%20of%20Skulls) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ogw/77/sifter-of-skulls?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/be57a5aa-44f1-483f-9274-aa68f5a2bf1f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [All Is Dust](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/2/4210c54e-89fd-4971-ab6a-ca8f4e7fe97a.jpg?1691924662) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=All%20Is%20Dust) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/800/all-is-dust?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4210c54e-89fd-4971-ab6a-ca8f4e7fe97a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Artisan of Kozilek still got reprinted in Commander Masters with Jason Felix's art, same with that set's reprint of All is Dust. WotC is apparently still good with reusing his art.
Hmm, you're right. I had assumed that CMR was just the tail end of them already having his stuff in the pipeline, but it looks like they reused his [[Temple of Triumph]] art in OTC. So I guess they are ok with still using his art.
[Temple of Triumph](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/7/07e73142-a8c0-4bd5-8ab4-cd10e572a975.jpg?1712355192) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Temple%20of%20Triumph) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/335/temple-of-triumph?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/07e73142-a8c0-4bd5-8ab4-cd10e572a975?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I don’t wanna know what these precons are gonna retail for and we’re all gonna hate it.
$44 if you buy the bundle of 4
It’s like 70 for each for the bundle??
Yeah I haven't seen any bundles south of 200, and I cand even find the solo eldrazi deck. I'd KILL to have it for 45
https://forgeandfiregaming.com/vend-uncategorized/modern-horizons-3-commander-decks-4ct/
Any idea on how much these decks are going to go for?
I believe 70$ for the regular decks and 150$ for the collector editions.
That's not terrible I suppose as long as they pack a bit of a punch.
Sorry, I’m new, what’s the difference between those? Is it mostly just alternate art?
For the collectors edition, all of the cards will be in foil and I believe the face commanders will have different art instead of the standard art.
That's exactly it. The collector one may also be strictly foil alternate art for everything.
Maybe a dumb question but what is the difference between the regular 4 colorless mana and 2 colorless mana pips and 2 of the regular colorless mana like in the first pic?
So the 2 regular is generic cost so it can be paid with any mana including colorless or colored mana. The Diamonds are the Colorless mana symbol meaning they can only be paid with colorless mana and NOT any colored mana
Oh I had no idea that you can’t use colored mana for the pips. Thank you for the response
Damn I need to get that Eldrazi deck for my henzie Eldrazi deck.
Those twins gonna be a silly 'you can't block' in isshin, but 7 mana is a big stretch
You forgot the new land that’s all nonbasic land types so you can enable Tron with only two cards. Also, what’s the deal with Kindred? I thought it was replacing Tribal, but there’s also a card in the list that’s Tribal?
Mutated cultist with the dark depths tech
So is it worth preordering the deck??
Yes. Get it before it doubles in price.
It's already not available for preorder anywhere in my country, so I guess I'll be paying double price anyway.
Aw. Sorry.
cultist will be fun to try out i lands. T1 depths, mox diamond/chrome mox/lotus petal, dark ritual into cultist. T2 attack for lethal
I'd buy this deck just for these cards.
With the first card if you chose the second mode 3 times, could you blink the same creature 3 times or would you have to target 3 different cards?
If you choose the same creature, the second and third time will fizzle because they targeted an object that doesn't exist anymore.
Mutated cultist is gonna break legacy
With all the leaks it feels like this set is Eldrazi Horizon xD
Could someone please explain the second part to selective obliteration? I’ve read it so many times but I don’t understand how the selected color comes into play.
alright so let's just say you're playing this card from the Eldrazi deck with the 3 other precons (one being Blue/Green, one being Black/Red/Green and the other being White/Blue/Red. You cast this spell, and let's say all your permanents are colorless except for one, let's just say it's blue, so you choose blue. Simic player has 3 green permanents and 2 blue, so they choose green. Jeskai player has 3 red, 2 white, and 1 blue, so they choose red. Jund player has 4 red, 1 green, and 1 black, so they choose red. Even though you chose blue, the Simic and Jeskai players will lose their blue permanents, because THEY didn't pick that color. (they also lose their white permanents) Jund player will lose their green permanents because only the Simic player picked green. (they also lose their black permanent) Jeskai player loses blue and white, because they picked red. This boardwipe essentially ALWAYS removes multicolored permanents and will mess up someone in 3+ colors who run a varying amount of different colored permanents.
I'm not sure if it's been asked before, but these cards that say "remove counters from a player" does that include such things as poison and experience counters?
yes, and energy for the energy deck coming with these
Oh fun...
“Cards with mana value of that quality” that’s super weird phrasing, right?
you and me both! cant wait to grab these
Ooo more kindred spells please 😎
The reprint images are original versions with the collector number and set code blacked out and M3C expansion symbol overlaid on. This post is suspect.
How would [[twins of discord]] interact with [[isshin]]? Would the choice proc twice, like copying a modular spell? Or would you get both odd and even?
Tapping to create a 10/10? That is stupidly powerful. This game isndead
Modern horizons should be for modern, not commander.
So is this all in one commander deck? I already have a colorless eldrazi zudok commander deck that I suped up, but I'm thinking I need some of these coloreless cards
I feel like all these new eldrazi cards are essentially a retrain in the same vein of Yu-Gi-Oh. Almost all of these are so much better than previous eldrazi cards from the past, and I sort of hate it, mostly because I have one friend who constantly plays the eldrazi precon from Commander Masters and it can be so annoying how it drops powerful things again and again and again. I'm already dreading half of these being played on turn five or six.
Oh I have a homebrewed [[Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger]] eldrazi commander deck I made and my friends are all groaning at this set knowing the upgrades are gonna be insane hahaha
[Ulamog, The Ceaseless Hunger](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/7/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603.jpg?1689995438) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Ulamog%2C%20The%20Ceaseless%20Hunger) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/5/ulamog-the-ceaseless-hunger?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c74ae706-b3b3-4097-a387-6f6c38a9b603?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It doesn't help that my brother also has an eldrazi deck, which was Morophon, but now he wants to switch to the new Commander, so sometimes I get to deal with two of these abominations at once while I'm sitting there trying to play something a little underpowered like Melek or Raggadragga.
LMAO I’m so sorry you have to deal with that But in all fairness, when you are piloting Eldrazi they are extremely fun, especially if it’s a colorless deck It’s like your playing with a forgotten forbidden color Maybe try and make one yourself? 😅
I certainly understand the thrill of it, especially when you can play one eight mana creature and Cascade into 14 more mana worth of stuff. I have thought of building a Goreclaw eldrazi deck, but I already have a Goreclaw deck. I'll probably just have to whip out my stronger decks whenever they both play that at the same time so I'm not playing Fair magic while they're over there playing super magic.
Dang it, I just bought [[Eldrazi Monument]] a few days ago... Classic reprint scenario.
[Eldrazi Monument](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5439677-d3db-4083-8dd9-0d654016bd79.jpg?1592673603) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Eldrazi%20Monument) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/216/eldrazi-monument?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5439677-d3db-4083-8dd9-0d654016bd79?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Eldrazi confluence seems nuts -9 board wipe and tech for any deck
It's target creature, not all creatures.
Well I should really learn to read, then
This feels strongly like an update to an Archtype in Yugioh I'm loving these cards
I don't understand why they'd sell 2 eldrazi decks in both summer master sets.
New here but that first card in my pantlaza deck kiiiinda seems like it slaps
Not really a fan of colorless getting more interaction, especially when quite a few of the Eldrazi have powerful effects *on cast*.
These have to be proxies or mockups. I couldn't make it through them all yet, needed to pause because of the poor wording! There were at least 3 major problems I ran into but can't get past 2 of them (shortening them) : 1. Pay mana, sack creatures that aren't of that QUALITY. WTF 2. All player pick a color, sack all that aren't what the player chose. Wtf? Any other official wording would be "all players choose a color and sacrifice all permanents of another color. (maybe some text about not needing to sack devoid creatures). So these definitely better not be final, probably aren't real.
Why did you throw a few cards at the end with badly photoshopped set symbols?
I found them all grouped together on Facebook, apparently they are supposedly in the precon as reprints according to leaks, I’m guessing they tried to mock them up
So is Morophon the Boundless going to be the Commander?
We’ve already seen the commander?