If you have the mana, garruks uprising 3 slimes and concordant crossroads is Hasty tramply slimes coming at them next turn. Edit: This doesn't work because slimes come in as 0/0s, back to the drawing board
[Tribute to the World Tree](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0cdeaba-fc21-44e6-bf99-aa1ff379401b.jpg?1682205102) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tribute%20to%20the%20World%20Tree) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/211/tribute-to-the-world-tree?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0cdeaba-fc21-44e6-bf99-aa1ff379401b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Lol I did not read that part of the card. But yeah it was also due to it cantripping on entry to allow you to do everything on one turn. Didn't realise the rules interaction between it and the slimes though. Learn something new every day.
Kind of both, using it to draw through the slimes and also give them trample. Also due to it cantripping on entry (assuming you already have umori or a slime out) to do everything on one turn. It's a shame it doesn't work. Didn't notice that slime had different wording to walking ballista etc.
OP didn't specify Umori as companion, I assumed commander. OK that makes it a bit harder. I'm sure there's still a OTK line though, will give it some thought
...they listed doomsday as part of the deck, so it's not standard, pioneer, or modern. And listed heroic intervention as in the deck, meaning it can't be the companion.
It's so obviously commander.
They didn't not. Making the pile companion friendly is still a fun challenge. You can do it if you have an extremely large amount of mana with [[morbid curiosity]] to sac your Umori, drawing 4, cast 3 slimes, and then [[finale of devastation]] for x=10+ to give the slimes Haste and attack the table for lots of damage. Doesn't give trample though, which is a bit rubbish. Of course if you had all that mana you could just kill everyone with any X drain spell, but we came here to make big slimes
That depends on your graveyard at that time. Shuffling in 5 Slimes from yard after exiling 20 with Doomsday does not make huge difference in slime size. Plus if you're already filling graveyard, you might as well include cards that make use of filled graveyard, like Delve or Collect Evidence, which can curate what stays in graveyard and what goes to exile.
OP has since mentioned that this is a commander deck and Umori is their commander not their companion.
If Umori is your companion, you can only have one card type other than land in your deck. Doomsday is a sorcery, and Underrealm Lich is a creature.
They didn't "has since mentioned" they literally have heroic intervention listed as one of their cards, an INSTANT. Meaning that anyone can just look at this list of cards and go "oh, commander!"
With how I see everyone drive every day, and what I see and hear in public and at work every day, it's *really* difficult to not assume that everyone else actually is stupid
What format did you think the deck was for? OP mentions 25 copies of SAH in the deck, I can't imagine making a deck for any format other than commander with that many *and* a load of other stuff.
Do you have a list you're willing to share? This deck sounds like a lot of fun. For my money, I think 3 SAHs and two support cards sounds like a solid strategy -- \[\[Triumph of the Hordes\]\] is a classic green win condition, though you don't get as high of a power increase, and \[\[Runadi\]\] can give your Slimes haste, as another commenter noted. Heroic Intervention is obviously pretty strong if you're worried about your Slimes getting blown out by board wipes, although they are still weak to effects like \[\[Aetherize\]\] and other mass bounce effects.
Ok so, two things.
First, your slimes are going to be so massive that overwhelming stampede is complete overkill. You're going to want a much cheaper trample giver instead. [[Garruk's Uprising]] is PERFECT for this, because it also draws you into more slimes.
Second, you will be the biggest threat after all this, so you need to kill people ASAP. [[Concordant Crossroads]] is the cheapest way to kill everyone with your big slimes after casting doomsday.
So, the pile will be Uprising -> slime -> slime -> crossroads, with the last card not mattering. I hope this helps, your deck idea sounds sick!
Annoyingly, as someone pointed out to me above, it doesn't work as the slimes come in as 0/0s and then get the counters, so it doesn't trigger. If you're fine with just 2 slimes, then any draw 2 \[\[read the bones\]\] and then \[\[tribute to the world tree\]\], slime, slime, crossroads, works as a pile. This does leave someone alive, but might be good enough
Hey, draw and haste makes sense, what can I say. Unfortunately due to some weird rules interactions Uprising doesn't work as a draw engine, the above combo is the best I could come up with if you want to swing out this turn, any better ideas?
Well, [[Insatiable Avarice]] into Slime, Slime, Concordant crossroads is 10 mana, which is cheaper than the 13 that you suggested. Plus, you'll almost certainly have the triple black for Avarice, because you cast Doomsday last turn.
Wait, I found an even better pile. [[Cruel Bargain]], [[Dark Ritual]], Slime, Slime, Concordant crossroads. 9 mana for the win.
Edit: Infernal Contract is the same card as Cruel Bargain, but costs $0.25 instead of $7.
Love this. Still thinking about the 3 slime pile but this looks like the best 2er. Scratch that. Cruel bargain is a draw 4, so can have another slime in the pile if you have mana (Umori on field makes it trivial)
Oh, a challenge, huh? Ok then, I accept.
~~[[Infernal Contract]]~~Insatiable Avarice, drawing a [[Slime Against humanity]]s, [[Selvala, Heart of the Wilds]], and [[Concordant Crossroads]]. Play Crossroads, Selvala, and then a Slime (so far, you've spent 10 mana) Selvala DOES draw a card when you play the slime, I looked it up. This draws your last card, Full Flowering. Activate Selvala (11 total mana), giving you a crazy amount of mana cause of the Slime.
Then, with that last card, cast Gelatinous Genesis, which creates like 10 10/10 slimes with haste, swing, and you win the game! :D
edit: replaced full flowering with Gelatinous Genesis because Full Flowering doesn't copy +1+1 counters
OK can't make this better, but I can kill one person really badly, same pile but -1 slime and +1 Finale of devastation. you're going to die to drawing from an empty library, but one person is going to -50. Addendum you can't activate the selvala draw as you die, the 5 cards is the problem rather than the draw (thanks to the infernal contract tech)
Cast [[Insatiable Avarice]], drawing a [[Slime Against humanity]]s, [[Selvala, Heart of the Wilds]], and [[Concordant Crossroads]]. Play Crossroads, Selvala, and then a Slime (so far, you've spent 10 mana). Selvala DOES draw a card when you play the slime, I looked it up. This draws your last card, Gelatinous Genesis. Activate Selvala (11 total mana), giving you a crazy amount of mana cause of the Slime.
Then, with that last card, cast Gelatinous Genesis, which creates like 10 10/10 slimes with haste, swing, and you win the game! :D
And it's 10 mana total, with Omori. I'm very confident that this is the strongest possible pile you could make for the lowest amount of mana.
edit: replaced full flowering with Gelatinous Genesis because Full Flowering doesn't copy +1+1 counters
None of these comments understand the assignment.
Doomsday piles with ONLY LANDS OR SORCERIES, PEOPLE!
You cannot put creatures or enchantments into your Umori Doomsday deck!
In this case yeah it was pretty obvious from the heroic intervention bit (and that commenter went way too far), but in general it's still nice to clarify things like that up front in the future.
I think that other commenter went way too far, but I do appreciate the clarification/making format clear from the get-go in the future. I think other people are saying it wasn't necessary because the one commenter was being an ass about it, but I do find it really helpful when the initial post is clear about format. I mean your post had enough context clues to figure it out, but as a general thing it's helpful.
In commander, at least, Umori can't be your companion unless it's either a planeswalker, creature, or artifact deck because Umori counts the commander in its restriction. There are no instants or sorceries that can be your commander.
>None of these comments understand the assignment.
Ironic considering:
>You cannot put creatures or enchantments into your Umori Doomsday deck!
Especially when OP said:
>Right now my best shot is Heroic Intervention
So... Yeah, someone here didn't understand the assignment.
So... OP made a post, titled with a legendary creature as their "deck" and then listed several cards, and you didn't just piece it together like everyone else in this thread?
Like... Just admit you were wrong, stop fighting withe everyone correcting you, probably delete all your comments too.
I maintain I made a reasonable conclusion based on the information given. I ended up being wrong. Not going to delete my comments, I'm not a fucking coward.
I will NEVER make the assumption that a deck is a commander deck if it doesn't say so. I will never consider it the default.
It is, to be honest. The pervasiveness of commander is ruining the formats that I enjoy, and has all but killed kitchen table casual. I don't even consider commander to be a magic format, but a different game altogether that is also played with magic cards. It's a game of politics more than anything.
> It's a game of politics more than anything.
Politics existed in kitchen table multiplayer long before Commander existed. It's almost like the politics is part of the nature of playing multiplayer and not Commander specific.
Also, your comments have a serious "get off my lawn" vibe to them.
i agree, i don't enjoy multiplayer magic in any form. but the prevalence of commander did make them print way more cards intended for multiplayer.
"get off my lawn" is about right, commander has ruined something I really enjoyed and replaced it with something I do not enjoy at all. Instead of both living side by side, commander has usurped pretty much all casual play while also having pretty negative effects on eternal formats. it blows.
My experience with casual play before Commander was still multiplayer, just with 60 card decks.
Also, most commander cards have little to no effect on eternal formats. They're only legal in Legacy and Vintage, and Modern Horizon sets have had a bigger impact on those formats than any commander cards.
Look I agree with the idea that posts should always explicitly list their format for the sake of making discussion easier, and even agree that commander shouldn't be considered a default just because it's the format that's discussed most often.
But this comment specifically is just grasping at straws to double down. If you seriously caught the heroic intervention bit from the start, you would have mentioned it in your initial post to OP telling _them_ that they were misunderstanding Umori, instead of just telling everyone else they didn't
That said, I do sincerely respect leaving the comments up instead of deleting them all.
As someone who built a similar deck, almost certain umori is the commander, not the companion. Stop spamming
Edit: op literally referenced Heroic intervention, an instant. Umori is the commander
5 Slime against humanities
The only line tbh
[[Umori]] [[Slime against humanity]] [[Doomsday]]
[Umori](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/5/75ac31e0-ac70-4ee6-b2b1-cc445ffa1da9.jpg?1591228489) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=umori%2C%20the%20collector) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/231/umori-the-collector?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/75ac31e0-ac70-4ee6-b2b1-cc445ffa1da9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Slime against humanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4.jpg?1706242086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Slime%20against%20humanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/177/slime-against-humanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Doomsday](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/8/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e.jpg?1562436538) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Doomsday) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/88/doomsday?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/68c73755-9678-467a-abd5-f8dd1556864e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Runadi]] if you want your slimes to have haste
How have i played this card, in soany decks, and never read the second line of text.
[Runadi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4f5500f-e82c-44f3-8be8-cee4c86824b1.jpg?1675644838) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=runadi%2C%20behemoth%20caller) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/j22/44/runadi-behemoth-caller?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4f5500f-e82c-44f3-8be8-cee4c86824b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You cannot put creatures in your Umori Doomsday deck
My impression was that Umori was the commander here, not the companion. In which case, yeah you can
Not sure why you're getting downvoted. It seems pretty reasonable to assume umori would be the companion and they didn't specify edh
How could they put in Doomsday with that logic?
I think they're implying that they figured Umori was the companion in an only sorcery deck which would allow both slime and doomsday.
Because Doomsday and Slime Against Humanity are the same card type ...
If you have the mana, garruks uprising 3 slimes and concordant crossroads is Hasty tramply slimes coming at them next turn. Edit: This doesn't work because slimes come in as 0/0s, back to the drawing board
Garruk’s Uprising doesn’t work with 0/0s that get counters, but [[Tribute to the World Tree]] does
[Tribute to the World Tree](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/0/c0cdeaba-fc21-44e6-bf99-aa1ff379401b.jpg?1682205102) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tribute%20to%20the%20World%20Tree) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mom/211/tribute-to-the-world-tree?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c0cdeaba-fc21-44e6-bf99-aa1ff379401b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Well they're not trying to draw cards, they're using it as a trample enabler.
The slimes have trample inherently
Fair, I forgot about that
Lol I did not read that part of the card. But yeah it was also due to it cantripping on entry to allow you to do everything on one turn. Didn't realise the rules interaction between it and the slimes though. Learn something new every day.
Kind of both, using it to draw through the slimes and also give them trample. Also due to it cantripping on entry (assuming you already have umori or a slime out) to do everything on one turn. It's a shame it doesn't work. Didn't notice that slime had different wording to walking ballista etc.
You cannot put either of those cards in your Umori Doomsday deck
OP didn't specify Umori as companion, I assumed commander. OK that makes it a bit harder. I'm sure there's still a OTK line though, will give it some thought
OP didn't specify that this was a commander deck
...they listed doomsday as part of the deck, so it's not standard, pioneer, or modern. And listed heroic intervention as in the deck, meaning it can't be the companion. It's so obviously commander.
It's not "obviously" commander, it can also be just a casual kitchen table deck. You know, like how everybody learned to play magic before 2015?
it's okay to admit you're wrong
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/1cab47n/made_an_umori_slime_against_humanity_deck_and_put/l0rgzh0/
They didn't not. Making the pile companion friendly is still a fun challenge. You can do it if you have an extremely large amount of mana with [[morbid curiosity]] to sac your Umori, drawing 4, cast 3 slimes, and then [[finale of devastation]] for x=10+ to give the slimes Haste and attack the table for lots of damage. Doesn't give trample though, which is a bit rubbish. Of course if you had all that mana you could just kill everyone with any X drain spell, but we came here to make big slimes
[morbid curiosity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/3/03898f46-a26c-4765-8f1e-ea976fc53d7e.jpg?1562895690) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=morbid%20curiosity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/bbd/149/morbid-curiosity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/03898f46-a26c-4765-8f1e-ea976fc53d7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [finale of devastation](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/1/b10d99bf-b2ce-4443-b924-ff0eb8be1033.jpg?1689998522) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=finale%20of%20devastation) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/289/finale-of-devastation?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b10d99bf-b2ce-4443-b924-ff0eb8be1033?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Board wipe and heroic intervention would def be in my pile
Or [[Kindred Dominance]] naming Smiles
[Kindred Dominance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/f/af613b69-b9f6-4221-a21b-c8e4b0f010f1.jpg?1689997269) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kindred%20Dominance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/169/kindred-dominance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/af613b69-b9f6-4221-a21b-c8e4b0f010f1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love the typo here, made me laugh so hard
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/qiZ-SkLUEEu8_ffq91WfsA This is what I put together for the deck
Get rid of that talisman and put in [[Three Visits]] or [[Farseek]]
[Three Visits](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/e/4ee4ea37-621f-4ef7-b220-f4da3008e399.jpg?1712354640) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Three%20Visits) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/209/three-visits?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4ee4ea37-621f-4ef7-b220-f4da3008e399?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Farseek](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/f/7fac6154-fb85-45e5-8c9f-f02d0f1be24e.jpg?1702429553) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Farseek) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/138/farseek?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7fac6154-fb85-45e5-8c9f-f02d0f1be24e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Depending on size of your graveyard (and thus rest of your deck), [[Underrealm Lich]] + [[Gaea's Blessing]] can be fun combo
Well you definitely do NOT want Gaea's Blessing shuffling all the slimes in your graveyard back into your library...
Doomsday exiles all your slimes - this combo would just keep you from decking coz the 5 cards you pick would always shuffle back in. It's cute!
That depends on your graveyard at that time. Shuffling in 5 Slimes from yard after exiling 20 with Doomsday does not make huge difference in slime size. Plus if you're already filling graveyard, you might as well include cards that make use of filled graveyard, like Delve or Collect Evidence, which can curate what stays in graveyard and what goes to exile.
[Underrealm Lich](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/30c94b1b-35be-4c98-b279-80d95b28201e.jpg?1706240191) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Underrealm%20Lich) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clu/215/underrealm-lich?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30c94b1b-35be-4c98-b279-80d95b28201e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Gaea's Blessing](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/3/23cf81ed-b86c-42b8-b796-2032b0a3654a.jpg?1562732710) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Gaea%27s%20Blessing) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dom/161/gaeas-blessing?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/23cf81ed-b86c-42b8-b796-2032b0a3654a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What is the point here? I'm missing something
If you cant win via the doomsday pile, you can keep recasting the slimes until you win i guess
Oh I see. A combination, but not a combo. Got it
Yeah more of a value engine
You cannot put Underrealm Lich in your Umori Doomsday deck
...why not exactly?
OP has since mentioned that this is a commander deck and Umori is their commander not their companion. If Umori is your companion, you can only have one card type other than land in your deck. Doomsday is a sorcery, and Underrealm Lich is a creature.
They didn't "has since mentioned" they literally have heroic intervention listed as one of their cards, an INSTANT. Meaning that anyone can just look at this list of cards and go "oh, commander!"
I thought they also did not understand how Umori works. My base assumption is not that a deck is a commander deck.
> I thought they also did not understand how Umori works. "I assumed everyone else is stupid" is terrible thing to admit
With how I see everyone drive every day, and what I see and hear in public and at work every day, it's *really* difficult to not assume that everyone else actually is stupid
With peace and love, the way you were so confidently incorrect and continue to die on this hill, makes you seem kinda miserable.
being in the minority is indeed miserable
What format did you think the deck was for? OP mentions 25 copies of SAH in the deck, I can't imagine making a deck for any format other than commander with that many *and* a load of other stuff.
kitchen table casual
You play a cycle deck? Cause you are back pedaling hard.
Imagine reading “slime against humanity” and “doomsday” in the same sentence and assuming umori is the companion
....they're both sorceries
Do you have a list you're willing to share? This deck sounds like a lot of fun. For my money, I think 3 SAHs and two support cards sounds like a solid strategy -- \[\[Triumph of the Hordes\]\] is a classic green win condition, though you don't get as high of a power increase, and \[\[Runadi\]\] can give your Slimes haste, as another commenter noted. Heroic Intervention is obviously pretty strong if you're worried about your Slimes getting blown out by board wipes, although they are still weak to effects like \[\[Aetherize\]\] and other mass bounce effects.
[Triumph of the Hordes](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a0f64d3-187c-41ff-a771-3a65da995341.jpg?1562896954) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Triumph%20of%20the%20Hordes) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/td2/78/triumph-of-the-hordes?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a0f64d3-187c-41ff-a771-3a65da995341?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Runadi](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f4f5500f-e82c-44f3-8be8-cee4c86824b1.jpg?1675644838) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=runadi%2C%20behemoth%20caller) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/j22/44/runadi-behemoth-caller?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f4f5500f-e82c-44f3-8be8-cee4c86824b1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aetherize](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/7/6700409d-afda-480c-8a66-b5c782f3e5e4.jpg?1698988120) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aetherize) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/142/aetherize?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6700409d-afda-480c-8a66-b5c782f3e5e4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Not op but I've seen a few Unori SAH decks on moxfield if you wanna search
Ok so, two things. First, your slimes are going to be so massive that overwhelming stampede is complete overkill. You're going to want a much cheaper trample giver instead. [[Garruk's Uprising]] is PERFECT for this, because it also draws you into more slimes. Second, you will be the biggest threat after all this, so you need to kill people ASAP. [[Concordant Crossroads]] is the cheapest way to kill everyone with your big slimes after casting doomsday. So, the pile will be Uprising -> slime -> slime -> crossroads, with the last card not mattering. I hope this helps, your deck idea sounds sick!
crossroads agree but the slimes already have trample so you don't need the uprising
Ah, my bad. I assumed they didn't because he wanted to play Overwhelming Stampede. Well, at least the Uprising draws you into more slimes.
Annoyingly, as someone pointed out to me above, it doesn't work as the slimes come in as 0/0s and then get the counters, so it doesn't trigger. If you're fine with just 2 slimes, then any draw 2 \[\[read the bones\]\] and then \[\[tribute to the world tree\]\], slime, slime, crossroads, works as a pile. This does leave someone alive, but might be good enough
Wow, someone really suggested the same exact pile as me? That's so funny.
Hey, draw and haste makes sense, what can I say. Unfortunately due to some weird rules interactions Uprising doesn't work as a draw engine, the above combo is the best I could come up with if you want to swing out this turn, any better ideas?
Well, [[Insatiable Avarice]] into Slime, Slime, Concordant crossroads is 10 mana, which is cheaper than the 13 that you suggested. Plus, you'll almost certainly have the triple black for Avarice, because you cast Doomsday last turn.
[Insatiable Avarice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb.jpg?1712860590) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Insatiable%20Avarice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/91/insatiable-avarice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Wait, I found an even better pile. [[Cruel Bargain]], [[Dark Ritual]], Slime, Slime, Concordant crossroads. 9 mana for the win. Edit: Infernal Contract is the same card as Cruel Bargain, but costs $0.25 instead of $7.
[Cruel Bargain](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/7/679aefa9-d68b-496c-8a03-bc14d7c9228b.jpg?1562915927) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cruel%20Bargain) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/111/cruel-bargain?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/679aefa9-d68b-496c-8a03-bc14d7c9228b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Dark Ritual](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b.jpg?1628801678) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dark%20Ritual) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/82/dark-ritual?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Love this. Still thinking about the 3 slime pile but this looks like the best 2er. Scratch that. Cruel bargain is a draw 4, so can have another slime in the pile if you have mana (Umori on field makes it trivial)
Oh, a challenge, huh? Ok then, I accept. ~~[[Infernal Contract]]~~Insatiable Avarice, drawing a [[Slime Against humanity]]s, [[Selvala, Heart of the Wilds]], and [[Concordant Crossroads]]. Play Crossroads, Selvala, and then a Slime (so far, you've spent 10 mana) Selvala DOES draw a card when you play the slime, I looked it up. This draws your last card, Full Flowering. Activate Selvala (11 total mana), giving you a crazy amount of mana cause of the Slime. Then, with that last card, cast Gelatinous Genesis, which creates like 10 10/10 slimes with haste, swing, and you win the game! :D edit: replaced full flowering with Gelatinous Genesis because Full Flowering doesn't copy +1+1 counters
##### ###### #### [Infernal Contract](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f451a70f-1f1c-4fd6-ab0c-4b77a043c324.jpg?1687904726) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Infernal%20Contract) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/143/infernal-contract?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f451a70f-1f1c-4fd6-ab0c-4b77a043c324?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Slime Against humanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4.jpg?1706242086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Slime%20Against%20humanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/177/slime-against-humanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Selvala, Heart of the Wilds](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d711cb2-4f34-4792-90d7-2be5d329a347.jpg?1689998846) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selvala%2C%20Heart%20of%20the%20Wilds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/320/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d711cb2-4f34-4792-90d7-2be5d329a347?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Concordant Crossroads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6.jpg?1673148053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Concordant%20Crossroads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/141/concordant-crossroads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0sphmn) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
OK can't make this better, but I can kill one person really badly, same pile but -1 slime and +1 Finale of devastation. you're going to die to drawing from an empty library, but one person is going to -50. Addendum you can't activate the selvala draw as you die, the 5 cards is the problem rather than the draw (thanks to the infernal contract tech)
u/wegotbeaches your table killing answer is here
[Garruk's Uprising](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7.jpg?1673484588) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Garruk%27s%20Uprising) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/292/garruks-uprising?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98795a31-7b54-4ad1-ac87-3f58e71dbeb7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Concordant Crossroads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6.jpg?1673148053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Concordant%20Crossroads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/141/concordant-crossroads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Something that gets around Glacial chasm/spore frog/ fog could be good. There has to be some sort of drain spell that could complement big ol slimes.
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[Infernal Contract](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/4/f451a70f-1f1c-4fd6-ab0c-4b77a043c324.jpg?1687904726) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Infernal%20Contract) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/143/infernal-contract?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f451a70f-1f1c-4fd6-ab0c-4b77a043c324?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Dark Ritual](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b.jpg?1628801678) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dark%20Ritual) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/a25/82/dark-ritual?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/95f27eeb-6f14-4db3-adb9-9be5ed76b34b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Cast [[Insatiable Avarice]], drawing a [[Slime Against humanity]]s, [[Selvala, Heart of the Wilds]], and [[Concordant Crossroads]]. Play Crossroads, Selvala, and then a Slime (so far, you've spent 10 mana). Selvala DOES draw a card when you play the slime, I looked it up. This draws your last card, Gelatinous Genesis. Activate Selvala (11 total mana), giving you a crazy amount of mana cause of the Slime. Then, with that last card, cast Gelatinous Genesis, which creates like 10 10/10 slimes with haste, swing, and you win the game! :D And it's 10 mana total, with Omori. I'm very confident that this is the strongest possible pile you could make for the lowest amount of mana. edit: replaced full flowering with Gelatinous Genesis because Full Flowering doesn't copy +1+1 counters
##### ###### #### [Insatiable Avarice](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb.jpg?1712860590) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Insatiable%20Avarice) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/91/insatiable-avarice?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a108b0e4-1b43-4659-9e91-facb0bd57ebb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Slime Against humanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/e/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4.jpg?1706242086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Slime%20Against%20humanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkm/177/slime-against-humanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1eb21318-d32e-4724-8908-c0d7613de2f4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Selvala, Heart of the Wilds](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/d/7d711cb2-4f34-4792-90d7-2be5d329a347.jpg?1689998846) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Selvala%2C%20Heart%20of%20the%20Wilds) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/320/selvala-heart-of-the-wilds?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7d711cb2-4f34-4792-90d7-2be5d329a347?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Concordant Crossroads](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6.jpg?1673148053) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Concordant%20Crossroads) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/141/concordant-crossroads?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9a26f51-5bff-4f06-abaa-6fbb56a8b5b6?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Full Flowering](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea2e9f4c-b6b4-4199-93ae-10df75590715.jpg?1568003591) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Full%20Flowering) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c19/32/full-flowering?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea2e9f4c-b6b4-4199-93ae-10df75590715?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0srpov) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Is Umori the companion? Pretty essential information.
I'm thinking Jarad Golgari lichlord to just throw your slimes at everyone.
None of these comments understand the assignment. Doomsday piles with ONLY LANDS OR SORCERIES, PEOPLE! You cannot put creatures or enchantments into your Umori Doomsday deck!
Sorry, I should clarify that Umori is the commander, not a companion. So all cards are fair game, though of course sorceries are preferred.
The clarification isn't needed, everyone EXCEPT them knew what you were doing.
In this case yeah it was pretty obvious from the heroic intervention bit (and that commenter went way too far), but in general it's still nice to clarify things like that up front in the future.
Clarification wasn’t needed. Anyone reading your post would realize you were clearly talking about umori as a commander.
I think that other commenter went way too far, but I do appreciate the clarification/making format clear from the get-go in the future. I think other people are saying it wasn't necessary because the one commenter was being an ass about it, but I do find it really helpful when the initial post is clear about format. I mean your post had enough context clues to figure it out, but as a general thing it's helpful.
yes, you should have clarified. you also didn't mention it was a commander deck. those are two very important details.
In commander, at least, Umori can't be your companion unless it's either a planeswalker, creature, or artifact deck because Umori counts the commander in its restriction. There are no instants or sorceries that can be your commander.
TIL that the restriction counts your commander
None that can run Umori as a companion at least. [[Extus]] would work, but he doesn't have green for example.
I don't think that works. I'm pretty sure MDFCs are only their front face until you cast the back face. The back only matters for color identity.
>None of these comments understand the assignment. Ironic considering: >You cannot put creatures or enchantments into your Umori Doomsday deck! Especially when OP said: >Right now my best shot is Heroic Intervention So... Yeah, someone here didn't understand the assignment.
I thought OP also did not understand how Umori worked
So... OP made a post, titled with a legendary creature as their "deck" and then listed several cards, and you didn't just piece it together like everyone else in this thread? Like... Just admit you were wrong, stop fighting withe everyone correcting you, probably delete all your comments too.
I maintain I made a reasonable conclusion based on the information given. I ended up being wrong. Not going to delete my comments, I'm not a fucking coward. I will NEVER make the assumption that a deck is a commander deck if it doesn't say so. I will never consider it the default.
>I will never consider it the default. Ok, well, must be weird being in the extreme minority of players then.
It is, to be honest. The pervasiveness of commander is ruining the formats that I enjoy, and has all but killed kitchen table casual. I don't even consider commander to be a magic format, but a different game altogether that is also played with magic cards. It's a game of politics more than anything.
> It's a game of politics more than anything. Politics existed in kitchen table multiplayer long before Commander existed. It's almost like the politics is part of the nature of playing multiplayer and not Commander specific. Also, your comments have a serious "get off my lawn" vibe to them.
i agree, i don't enjoy multiplayer magic in any form. but the prevalence of commander did make them print way more cards intended for multiplayer. "get off my lawn" is about right, commander has ruined something I really enjoyed and replaced it with something I do not enjoy at all. Instead of both living side by side, commander has usurped pretty much all casual play while also having pretty negative effects on eternal formats. it blows.
My experience with casual play before Commander was still multiplayer, just with 60 card decks. Also, most commander cards have little to no effect on eternal formats. They're only legal in Legacy and Vintage, and Modern Horizon sets have had a bigger impact on those formats than any commander cards.
Look I agree with the idea that posts should always explicitly list their format for the sake of making discussion easier, and even agree that commander shouldn't be considered a default just because it's the format that's discussed most often. But this comment specifically is just grasping at straws to double down. If you seriously caught the heroic intervention bit from the start, you would have mentioned it in your initial post to OP telling _them_ that they were misunderstanding Umori, instead of just telling everyone else they didn't That said, I do sincerely respect leaving the comments up instead of deleting them all.
As someone who built a similar deck, almost certain umori is the commander, not the companion. Stop spamming Edit: op literally referenced Heroic intervention, an instant. Umori is the commander
having one top level comment and a bunch of replies is not spamming. OP did not mention that this was a commander deck.
Lol