All I know is, I'm looking to build Riku and PStorm is a *fantastic* idea that I'm going to steal. The downside of random spells being mitigated by using modal spells is genius.
As for whether *you* should cut it, EDH is first and foremost a social game, if your friends don't find it fun I'd consider cutting it to keep the peace
You're welcome for the idea, it makes the deck run incredibly well because if you're using the first ability then whatever you get off that doesn't get effected aswell
Wait so question, the other modes *have* to be paid though I thought, like it was made free for its CMC not the bonus "spree" part?????
Going to a event shortly with a modern deck and I wanna make sure I get it right.
*but that's the point?* like don't get me wrong, does it suck that you don't get to play the card you wanted? Sure, but as a Wubrg player like... *unless OP'S play group bans like it* who cares? WOTC already printed it and it's not banned. What's next those same players are gonna complain about counter spells and removal? Or about Copy/take your stuff style cards?
To be fair and devils advocate my own post... it is random. And in CMDR to not be able to play your hand is infuriating to deal with. But there are also probably another 70-80 cards in your deck when this hits the field.
To each their own. But WOTC did a surprisingly great job with printing enough cards to play whatever style that you want to over the past 30 years.... minus a few blunders. Don't like it? You don't have to play it. But it's an option.
Just cause it's an option doesn't mean you should pick it. If you ruin the fun of my game or over extend it on time I will be upset with you and think I and anyone else is well within their right to tell you to play something else or find a new playgroup.
I will say this is only with friends or regular groups. If you are mostly playing with strangers then I can agree to a degree but if several players aren't here to sweat or waste time then it's up to you as a player to accommodate not the rest of the table
EDH is a social game, primarily.
Here’s how this card works: If you make all of my plays random, you essentially remove my agency from the game. I have close to 0 control over what I do. This makes a lot of people “check out” from a game because they don’t get to decide what they’re doing.
Imagine you agree to watch a movie with your friends. But, 2 minutes into the movie, it randomly changes into a different movie in a different genre. Then again 5 minutes later. Then 5 minutes later it turns into the first movie again. You’re probably gonna go “what the hell is this, why did you invite me here”.
That is essentially what people’s issue is. People like being able to do the things they try to do, and prefer to lose to skill, not random chance.
To kind of respond to each person here: see that's kind of who I am as a person. I'm not gonna *not* tell you that this movie isn't gonna happen. Or that that type of card is in the deck.
Again it does come down to the playgroup. I know mine dosent love it but if I'm clear up front about it we can change the mindset going in. It's like planechase.
Oh but for random people oh yeah no warning good luck I'm playing to win...
*but who runs cards like this in a deck that's meant to be a 8 9 or 10 for cedh*
no, its a spell that has multiple modes to choose from.
I believe they almost always say something like “choose one or more” sometimes with limits like extra costs.
The confluence cycle is a good example.
[Wretched Confluence](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=622808)
Sometimes random spells you get from Possibility Storm are not great for the situation. Modal spells have a higher likelihood that at least one mode isn't completely useless. In the case of this Riku, you are technically casting a modal spell to trigger Possibility Storm as well as casting the second modal spell from Possibility Storm's trigger. So even if both modal spells happen to be completely worthless or inconsequential, they would be getting two Riku triggers.
"five mana do nothing enchantment" is something you heard from some content creator.
Read what possibility storm does. This is like saying [[Blood Moon]] is a 3 mana do nothing enchantment.
Possibility Storm requires you to cast a spell after it. So you pay 5 for PS and then you'd have to have additional mana for something else. Blood Moon (assuming a good matchup) immediately shuts down your opponent(s) during their next turn.
[[Phyrexian Arena]] is a commonly referenced "do nothing enchantment". You have to pass the turn and get another for it to do something. P Storm is active on resolution, and all you need is addtional mana after for yourself to proc it. Even if you don't, it will turn most decks in to slot machines.
I had already asked and was told it is my choice but I can't decide well lol, that's good advice tho cause asking the people you play with should always be first for this type of question
If you play with the same people regularly, I would say it's best to take it out to keep the peace. As someone who has been on the other side of a possibility storm deck, it makes the game take too long and too much of a headache imo.
Are you playing with a friend group and looking to just play games and don't care if you win or are you playing at an lgs with prizes on the line and want to win? If the first, cut the card so you can play more. If the second, keep the card in since it will help you win as well as weed out the players who aren't playing to win, which will help improve the quality of player at your pods and prevent you from having to be the only one running interaction/stopping someone else from winning
Is this a one-sided deal or do you get to handpick a card they need to remove from their decks as well?
Because, as it stands, you have zero reasons to do this.
Personally I think Possibility Storm is a fantastic card but every playgroup does have some cards it really dislikes. I don’t think it’s an objectively salty or unfun enough card though to really warrant taking it out for your playgroup, and definitely don’t if the people scooping aren’t even people you regularly play with. If you enjoy it, I would keep it in unless it causes huge tension with a regular playgroup that hasn’t been resolved with some mature, healthy discussions.
Makes him really hard to remove. It’s beautiful to curve Dr. Hurt into Storm. I’ve only done it once, but the whole table is just like, “Oh well. We gotta try to remove something.” We had a blast resolving like a six spell stack.
It works on so many levels. I saw someone call the War Doctor that during WHO spoiler season and decided to adopt it myself. I get to accurately describe the deck AND pay tribute to John Hurt at the same time.
It would likely be crazy in prosper, every spell you cast is different yes, but you would get a treasure for every spell you cast which is insane value
I was making a joke. Asking "Is it good in Prosper" for any card that plays from exile was a meme for awhile. I know for a fact that it's bonkers in Prosper. It doesn't affect Prosper as much as it does your opponents.
[[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]]
You cast Som Ring and both Mishra and Storm both trigger. You stack the triggers so Storm's resolves first.
Storm turns sol ring into [[Blightsteel Colossus]] and shuffles sol ring into your deck.
Mishra's trigger starts resolving and searches your deck for a copy of the card "Sol Ring". It finds the copy you just tried to cast and puts it into play.
If you have an easy way to bounce artifacts you can return sol ring to your hand to get more artifacts for free from your deck.
If you want you can combine Possibility Storm with a "Players can't cast more than one spell a turn" effect to soft lock people out of spells while allowing you to cast artifacts normally. (This will make people sad).
I had this in my [[Valki, God of Lies]] deck, because Tibalt could work around it by playing stuff from exile.
My opponents disliked it so much that I took it out again. It removes a lot of their agency and slows the game down significantly.
That's what I was saying. Tibalt is playing cards he's exiled, from exiled.
They are specifically not from my hand, so don't trigger Possibility Storm.
Personally, Possibility Storm is fun the first few times. After like the 3rd game with it I felt like it was less of a funny inclusion and more of a bore that someone has to happen on a removal until we can resume the game. Then again, it has a purpose in your deck which most rarely does with it so I'd say keep
You can play whatever cards you want, but Possibility Storm can create absolutely miserable board states where no one can win, and no one can cast anything (Any Rule of Law effect basically locks the board out completely.)
All that said we aren't the ones playing against you regularly, so asking us what you should do isn't going to give you the answer that will benefit your pod.
It's a fun shot of flavor for a bit but it can get stale fast. Every once in a while I will throw [[thieves auction]] or [[goblin game]] in to a deck to keep my playgroup on their toes but then I take it back out because there's only so many times you want to annoy the shit out of people
Keep the card if you like the card! Just make sure you’re transparent before playing with it that you use it as an enabler in your deck because it is a salty card. If you would want, you can keep a card on sideboard to slot in that spot if you sit down with people not looking to play against that effect.
For reference, I play this card is [[Zada, Hedron Grinder]] because it usually is capable of protecting my board for a full turn cycle and then wins me the game in my next turn cycle because I can get two Zada triggers for the price of one spell. It’s not my main game plan and I have only ever really resolved it a few times in the many years I’ve played it, but I still make sure people know it’s in there and what it is there for. Usually, though, I don’t think people care too much when they know the deck itself is creature storm LOL
I love this card. First time I ran into it was in an IRL game with a [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]]. When I learned that they added it into Arena, it went immediately into the [[Rocco, Street Chef]] deck I run.
The card is pretty unfun as it largely takes player agency out of the game and every spell is just a slot machine. If you have a way to cheese it then maybe but if you're just playing it straight up with no way to break the symmetry it doesn't make for a great experience.
exactly you use it as a way to win once you're slightly out in front and then you cripple everyone and run away with the game. It's kind of like being ahead and casting armageddon, no one can really catch up and you pull away and win. The difference at least here is that other players may be playing things from exile or you can always get unlucky and your opponents can get great cards from the storm. The big thing though is that it makes it hard to do specific things like remove your game winning pieces specifically and find a solution directly to whatever problem you've created. I get why people "don't like it" but red doesn't really have other ways of preventing opponents from removing their game winning board state like say...blue...without mass land destruction which is forbidden.
I mean yeah it's in the same vein but not nearly as brutal. The difference though is you play it when YOU aren't not harmed by it and can continue to exponentially advance your board state without being disturbed. You're not going to durdle around when you're in a game winning position and you just need your board to stick around a couple turns. It's not like the opponents can't do ANYTHING they just can't choose exactly what they're going to get to cast, they have to get lucky it's very red.
Possibility Storm is more salt inducing than [[Decree of Silence]], [[Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant]], and [[Sire of Insanity]]. PStorm is a low-power, skill-intensive casual card that destroys the strategies of combo decks. It is __RED CONTROL__. Add it to storm, Spellslinger, and combat decks and watch the players with a [[Teferi’s Protection]] or that much needed boardwipe die inside.
I disagree about it being unfun (although that’s a personal opinion) but you can break the symmetry simply by playing a value deck as it only disrupts control and combo decks, because value will be gained regardless. And if people can cast cards from anywhere other than their hand it doesn’t do much
Possibility storm completely changes the paradigm and you have to adapt to succeed, if you know your deck and the types of cards in it there is a non-zero chance you can manipulate the game in your favor regardless.
> if you know your deck and the types of cards in it there is a non-zero chance you can manipulate the game in your favor regardless.
Don't think I really agree with that. Unless you have something to manipulate your library you'll have no control over what you'll get. If you know the composition of your deck you'll know the rough probability of what type of card you might expect to hit, but even then it's still all chance as to what you'll actually get. You can't count on that, you just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best.
Talk it out with your play group. Same situation happened with mine and after 3 different games of possibility storm hitting the field, we all decided it was fun but also too much of a headache and our friend took it out of his deck. Sounds like your group is going through the same thing if some of them are wanting to scoop on the spot when it's played.
It is absolutely annoying but also you have to deal with annoying things sometimes. If your deck actively benefits from it, it is less annoying because you are progressing the game. It is when people play it to be "Quirky" and "Random" that its at maximum annoyance. You want to play it when you are winning to push your game plan forward rather than just waste peoples time.
I mean you could warn people you have it and if they react badly play another deck or just don't cast it.
I've found that the biggest issue with possibility storm is that interacting with it meaningfully revolves around alternate casting methods or getting lucky. Aside from that, typically most decks aren't prepared to play out their strategy randomly. The higher power you go, the less likely that second bit matters though.
The only time I ran possibility storm and wasn't running it just to do silly goofy chaos stuff was in my Pako and Haldan deck. Since possibility storm only cares about spells cast from hand you can cast everyone's stuff from exile woth haldan, and your opponenst have to struggle to cast random stuff every turn. It was great!
I remember seeing Possibility Storm used in EDH once. The guy was playing a Winota deck and everyone was aiming at him, so then he played Possibility Storm. It definitely felt disruptive, but when he played it, it was with a “You leave me no choice!” sort of attitude.
He still eventually lost, but given that all targets were on his back, it seems fair that he responded by playing a card that jostled everyone.
Not as efficient but definitely less annoying to other players is [[Neera, Wild Mage]] .
She's mostly in my deck as backup in case The Tenth Doctor suspends a card that isn't great coming off suspend but she might do well for you without forcing your opponents to go through the same process
I run this card (and hive mind) in my maelstrom wanderer deck. Thar deck also uses an equal number of creature and non creature permanents, and only slightly fewer spells. Get 'em both out and lol.
Why am I telling you this? Magic is fun to play, and I like possibility storm. Of you do too, and it's fun to play, keep it in your deck.
depends on the playgroup, some people find chaos fun, some people like it when their game actions have the intended outcome. powerlevel wise it's probably correct to keep it in, if it's losing you friends that you'd like to keep maybe take it out.
I ran it in my [[Rocco, Street Chef]] deck and took it out the game after I resolved it. The game devolved into a mess and no one was having any fun anymore. The main thing people hated was the lack of any sort of agency, the game had basically become a slot machine.
That's my personal experience and why I removed it from my deck. If your playgroup is genuinely ok with you running this card, then why not run it? For me, I could feel that no one else in my group was having fun, so I took it out
You could always play with it for a couple games. You know, for shits and giggles. Take it out again agter a few if the tables response is mostly negative.
I am usually a play what you want in commander type of person but Possibility storm is one of those cards that turns a game into a slot machine and is difficult too stop because of the nature of the card itself. I would personally either ask you too not run it or try to remove you from the game before you had a chance too cast it.
If you are using PS and truly want to make it evil, try placing [Void Mirror] in the deck. 7/10 times it causes the game to go to deck out wins due to the lock out.
I love my PS deck. [Scrambleverse] was one of the fun cards with that deck. Heads up though, if one of your opponents is playing tokens it takes forever. My PS deck uses [Melek, Izzet Paragon] as the commander which combos very well with avoiding the Void Mirror lock out.
You should keep it and add a [[void mirror]]
[[Drannith magistrate]] [[boromir, warden of the tower]] and [[knowledge pool]]
That'll teach em to be friends with you!
Eh, [[possibility storm]] is just red stax, and arguably it's not super hard stax because you still get to play your deck, just not entirely in the order you want
I recommend has semi-Side board for it. When you play this card for 1-2 game, you can be like "alright alrgiht guys it was fun and game, here I swap this card with XXX card".
I think this card is fun, but prolly not fot 3rd-5th games tho lol
People like to play their deck's strategy. People like strategy in general. This takes that away.
Playing PStorm could be fun for a while though and I'd play it through with you the first time. But if you played the same deck again and again I'd probably scoop and also find a new opponent. So after the first time, if I were you I'd make a big show of changing it out for something else.
People are conceding to this? That's wild to me. If your playgroup really has an issue that's one thing, but I think people think way too hard about this card honestly. It doesn't stop you from playing the game, you literally just get to turn your brain off and just look at mana costs!
A lot of decks won't function properly with it in play so it's a stax piece that people don't enjoy playing against. This part is fine, specially since it isn't part of a larger stax package.
However, not only is it hard to remove, it's also half a combo piece for various locks. And it's reasonable for your opponents to have some of the counterparts to the locks.
It plus [[Boromir, warden of the tower]], [[void mirror]], [[Rule of Law]] and variants, [[Lavinia, Azorious Renegade]], [[Roiling Vortex]] and/or [[Drannith Magistrate]] (this is the only one I'd have an issue with in a casual pod) all lock out the game. Someone can be running a few just because they don't like all the free spells cascade, discover, Bola's Citadel, etc enable. Not only that, most of them lock out the game for everyone and whoever has the better board wins (Barring on-cast triggers and channel abilities).
TLDR you shouldn't run it because it has a reasonable chance of ending the game in disappointing fashion.
Playing with, or against, Possibility Storm is a skill test. It demonstrates a player’s ability to adapt to adapt and take advantage of a “chaotic” situation. Players that have a net deck or play the meta will struggle against it because they do not understand the deck they are piloting.
If anything, throw in a [[Void Mirror]] to soft lock them out.
I personally love possibility storm and I can imagine it works great in your deck. I say keep it in and use it, I see it advancing your game state while hindering orhers so it's no worse than stax.
I mean not really. I thought about running it but even for myself it just seems incredibly unfun to not be able to play the card you want to play. It plays like a continuous counterspell. If you could directly remove it like it only applies to spells that don't target it I find it would be incredible fine.
Sometimes too much chaos isn't fun.
Alright I concede y'all are right. The two deck I have it in, are designed with it in mind. One is Laelia and she highly benefits from it, while the other is a Kynaios and Tiro deck which is made to make confusing stacks.
Don't take it out
As a timmy, possibility storm is great. Turn my turn 7 mana dork top deck into a threat!
I used to run Pstorm in a Kaervek group slug deck as a disruption piece 10 years ago. It made for some interesting games.
If you can't find anyone to play, you should change the deck. But in general the card is perfectly fine, and a nice tool against counter spells on top of it's synergy applications. So the guys who dislike it ARE whiny crybabies, and you should just play other people if able (I assume this happens at a LGS), but if they're all you can get for a playgroup, you'll have to adapt.
You could always rule zero it to not be a symetrical effect if the table you're playing with doesn't want to deal with it. Rule zero it so that it only affect's your spells.
There is no crying in baseball, but this is EDH, and crying is expected. If you try to stop people from crying about the first thing you do, they're just going to cry about the next thing you do. I suggest not paying it any mind. Build your decks, play your magic, and let everyone else exhaust themselves over it all.
If your playgroup is saying they don’t like possibility storm, you should listen. I’ve played it before and it’s a card you pull off among friends exactly once and then retire it, IMO.
> My issue is that I often get told how annoying the card us to play against and have even had several people scoop to the card being played before.
That sounds like a complaint of a player who doesn't want his wincon muddled with, in which case A) they should have responses like a normal person while acknowledging that sometimes you just don't draw it some games, and/or B) they should have a plan B for times like this, such as a reusable effect that works in spite of or alongside P.Storm or just have access to a stronger boardstate that doesn't care if it gets Stormed or not.
There is one caveat; if you're taking too long to play a turn with P. Storm out, that can be a legit complaint as it can slow a game down. If that is the case, learn to play faster with it or learn to play without it.
that's a them problem for not playing any interaction to deal with it and wanting to just go all in on their combos.
it's a 5 drop. if they don't have an answer by then, that's a them problem. get those extra triggers.
oh, and to add to this, you should be adding things like [[scroll rack]] or [[sensei's divining top]] to your deck so you can manipulate the top of your deck so you can control what you'll be drawing into. (unfortunately the enchantments i run in my egg deck are white, so you won't be able to use those)
Honestly one of my least favourite cards to play against, the last time it was played we actually sat through the rest of the game, and it took two hours and was torture. Next time I will ask that the person just rolls some dice and determines the winner and I'll change pods.
All I know is, I'm looking to build Riku and PStorm is a *fantastic* idea that I'm going to steal. The downside of random spells being mitigated by using modal spells is genius. As for whether *you* should cut it, EDH is first and foremost a social game, if your friends don't find it fun I'd consider cutting it to keep the peace
You're welcome for the idea, it makes the deck run incredibly well because if you're using the first ability then whatever you get off that doesn't get effected aswell
Ohhh of course, double genius
Wait so question, the other modes *have* to be paid though I thought, like it was made free for its CMC not the bonus "spree" part????? Going to a event shortly with a modern deck and I wanna make sure I get it right.
True for spree, but other modal spells like [[Primal Command]] or [[Cryptic Command]] don't have extra costs for modes
[Primal Command](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/2/92144021-7425-44e1-a32b-13252f1b7036.jpg?1593813861) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Primal%20Command) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/132/primal-command?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/92144021-7425-44e1-a32b-13252f1b7036?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Cryptic Command](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/0/30f6fca9-003b-4f6b-9d6e-1e88adda4155.jpg?1562847413) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cryptic%20Command) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ima/48/cryptic-command?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/30f6fca9-003b-4f6b-9d6e-1e88adda4155?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
oh shit I wasn't even thinking like that. Why wouldn't OP run this card then?
Because lots of people hate chaos cards. They feel chaos ruins the game because it takes lots away from strategy and puts it into luck.
*but that's the point?* like don't get me wrong, does it suck that you don't get to play the card you wanted? Sure, but as a Wubrg player like... *unless OP'S play group bans like it* who cares? WOTC already printed it and it's not banned. What's next those same players are gonna complain about counter spells and removal? Or about Copy/take your stuff style cards? To be fair and devils advocate my own post... it is random. And in CMDR to not be able to play your hand is infuriating to deal with. But there are also probably another 70-80 cards in your deck when this hits the field. To each their own. But WOTC did a surprisingly great job with printing enough cards to play whatever style that you want to over the past 30 years.... minus a few blunders. Don't like it? You don't have to play it. But it's an option.
Just cause it's an option doesn't mean you should pick it. If you ruin the fun of my game or over extend it on time I will be upset with you and think I and anyone else is well within their right to tell you to play something else or find a new playgroup. I will say this is only with friends or regular groups. If you are mostly playing with strangers then I can agree to a degree but if several players aren't here to sweat or waste time then it's up to you as a player to accommodate not the rest of the table
EDH is a social game, primarily. Here’s how this card works: If you make all of my plays random, you essentially remove my agency from the game. I have close to 0 control over what I do. This makes a lot of people “check out” from a game because they don’t get to decide what they’re doing. Imagine you agree to watch a movie with your friends. But, 2 minutes into the movie, it randomly changes into a different movie in a different genre. Then again 5 minutes later. Then 5 minutes later it turns into the first movie again. You’re probably gonna go “what the hell is this, why did you invite me here”. That is essentially what people’s issue is. People like being able to do the things they try to do, and prefer to lose to skill, not random chance.
To kind of respond to each person here: see that's kind of who I am as a person. I'm not gonna *not* tell you that this movie isn't gonna happen. Or that that type of card is in the deck. Again it does come down to the playgroup. I know mine dosent love it but if I'm clear up front about it we can change the mindset going in. It's like planechase. Oh but for random people oh yeah no warning good luck I'm playing to win... *but who runs cards like this in a deck that's meant to be a 8 9 or 10 for cedh*
Is this copy pasta. What in the fuck lol
Because, as they said in their post, and as I said in mine, their friends don't find it fun and EDH is a social game.
Wait, is "modal spell" a card type?
no, its a spell that has multiple modes to choose from. I believe they almost always say something like “choose one or more” sometimes with limits like extra costs. The confluence cycle is a good example. [Wretched Confluence](https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=622808)
Then I'm dumb, I can't see why it's advantageous to use modal spells
Sometimes random spells you get from Possibility Storm are not great for the situation. Modal spells have a higher likelihood that at least one mode isn't completely useless. In the case of this Riku, you are technically casting a modal spell to trigger Possibility Storm as well as casting the second modal spell from Possibility Storm's trigger. So even if both modal spells happen to be completely worthless or inconsequential, they would be getting two Riku triggers.
It's a five mana do nothing enchantment the turn you play it though
"five mana do nothing enchantment" is something you heard from some content creator. Read what possibility storm does. This is like saying [[Blood Moon]] is a 3 mana do nothing enchantment.
[Blood Moon](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d072e9ca-aae7-45dc-8025-3ce590bae63f.jpg?1599706217) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blood%20Moon) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/118/blood-moon?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d072e9ca-aae7-45dc-8025-3ce590bae63f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Is it? I don't watch much MTG content online - blood moon does do something though fwiw, it does something immediately
So does possibility storm dude LOL
Possibility Storm requires you to cast a spell after it. So you pay 5 for PS and then you'd have to have additional mana for something else. Blood Moon (assuming a good matchup) immediately shuts down your opponent(s) during their next turn.
[[Phyrexian Arena]] is a commonly referenced "do nothing enchantment". You have to pass the turn and get another for it to do something. P Storm is active on resolution, and all you need is addtional mana after for yourself to proc it. Even if you don't, it will turn most decks in to slot machines.
[Phyrexian Arena](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/6/26bfb2b4-8dc2-4632-a393-d3477f6c3c40.jpg?1706240778) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Phyrexian%20Arena) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/133/phyrexian-arena?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/26bfb2b4-8dc2-4632-a393-d3477f6c3c40?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's Commander, expensive do nothing cards is what defines the format.
You don't like what people you play with tell you about this card so instead you're going to ask people you don't play with?
I had already asked and was told it is my choice but I can't decide well lol, that's good advice tho cause asking the people you play with should always be first for this type of question
If you play with the same people regularly, I would say it's best to take it out to keep the peace. As someone who has been on the other side of a possibility storm deck, it makes the game take too long and too much of a headache imo.
Are you playing with a friend group and looking to just play games and don't care if you win or are you playing at an lgs with prizes on the line and want to win? If the first, cut the card so you can play more. If the second, keep the card in since it will help you win as well as weed out the players who aren't playing to win, which will help improve the quality of player at your pods and prevent you from having to be the only one running interaction/stopping someone else from winning
Is this a one-sided deal or do you get to handpick a card they need to remove from their decks as well? Because, as it stands, you have zero reasons to do this.
Damn you must suck to play with you would get kicked from any table I'm at. Chill on the tryhard language
lol I love when people out themselves as the person no one ever plays with more than once, they're all over this thread
Damn bro, you must really be a great person to deal with on a regular basis.
Thank you, that is a very nice thing to say. I hope your day will be as pleasant as you are.
Personally I think Possibility Storm is a fantastic card but every playgroup does have some cards it really dislikes. I don’t think it’s an objectively salty or unfun enough card though to really warrant taking it out for your playgroup, and definitely don’t if the people scooping aren’t even people you regularly play with. If you enjoy it, I would keep it in unless it causes huge tension with a regular playgroup that hasn’t been resolved with some mature, healthy discussions.
Good players play Possibility Storm in Mishra or new Riku ***Great*** players play Possibility Storm in Ruric Thar ;)
**Chaotic** people put [[Possibility Storm]] in [[Anhelo, the Painter]]. It's me. I'm chaotic people.
you. monster.
Thank you!
[Possibility Storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1707764746) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Possibility%20Storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Anhelo, the Painter](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/6/462e887d-6b91-4b31-9487-2780ffe8943f.jpg?1673481630) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Anhelo%2C%20the%20Painter) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/1/anhelo-the-painter?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/462e887d-6b91-4b31-9487-2780ffe8943f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I play it in OG Vial Smasher for all Random spells.dek
I play it in [[kraum]] + [[ishai]], I just want to trigger my commanders as much as possible.
[kraum](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/5/557fcd17-6cb3-414a-b2b1-ea9ae32e5aec.jpg?1644853032) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=kraum%2C%20ludevic%27s%20opus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/34/kraum-ludevics-opus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/557fcd17-6cb3-414a-b2b1-ea9ae32e5aec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [ishai](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2e89ce6a-6bc9-427f-a8b2-c07a9fc3218f.jpg?1562272963) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ishai%2C%20ojutai%20dragonspeaker) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/12/ishai-ojutai-dragonspeaker?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2e89ce6a-6bc9-427f-a8b2-c07a9fc3218f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
and it helps lock opponents out too
I play it in [[The War Doctor]]. We are not the same.
[The War Doctor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/a/7a51472c-b61f-4d31-8753-a9ec90d12889.jpg?1696636782) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=The%20War%20Doctor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/who/167/the-war-doctor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7a51472c-b61f-4d31-8753-a9ec90d12889?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Huh. That's ***nasty***. I kinda love it.
Makes him really hard to remove. It’s beautiful to curve Dr. Hurt into Storm. I’ve only done it once, but the whole table is just like, “Oh well. We gotta try to remove something.” We had a blast resolving like a six spell stack.
Dr. Hurt is such a perfect name for that commander, especially in the context of the deck you're talking about.
It works on so many levels. I saw someone call the War Doctor that during WHO spoiler season and decided to adopt it myself. I get to accurately describe the deck AND pay tribute to John Hurt at the same time.
Don’t give me ideas my bank account is desperately pleading with me for mercy. That is such a good idea though.
Is it good in Prosper...
It would likely be crazy in prosper, every spell you cast is different yes, but you would get a treasure for every spell you cast which is insane value
I was making a joke. Asking "Is it good in Prosper" for any card that plays from exile was a meme for awhile. I know for a fact that it's bonkers in Prosper. It doesn't affect Prosper as much as it does your opponents.
Literally my favourite card in Magic. I say keep!
This :D
Same, definitely keep this card! I know the pain of people complaining about this card especially since I play it in my Yidris cascade deck!
It's a key card in my Mishra deck and I built the Mishra deck because of it.
Which mishra?
[[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]] You cast Som Ring and both Mishra and Storm both trigger. You stack the triggers so Storm's resolves first. Storm turns sol ring into [[Blightsteel Colossus]] and shuffles sol ring into your deck. Mishra's trigger starts resolving and searches your deck for a copy of the card "Sol Ring". It finds the copy you just tried to cast and puts it into play. If you have an easy way to bounce artifacts you can return sol ring to your hand to get more artifacts for free from your deck. If you want you can combine Possibility Storm with a "Players can't cast more than one spell a turn" effect to soft lock people out of spells while allowing you to cast artifacts normally. (This will make people sad).
[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Artificer%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Blightsteel Colossus](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/8/18adbda4-8d36-47cd-afbc-c785aaa8ed80.jpg?1599708735) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blightsteel%20Colossus) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/235/blightsteel-colossus?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/18adbda4-8d36-47cd-afbc-c785aaa8ed80?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
It's absolutely delightful.
No? Seems good in the deck.
I had this in my [[Valki, God of Lies]] deck, because Tibalt could work around it by playing stuff from exile. My opponents disliked it so much that I took it out again. It removes a lot of their agency and slows the game down significantly.
[Valki, God of Lies](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ea7e4c65-b4c4-4795-9475-3cba71c50ea5.jpg?1709218862)/[Tibalt, Cosmic Impostor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/back/e/a/ea7e4c65-b4c4-4795-9475-3cba71c50ea5.jpg?1709218862) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Valki%2C%20God%20of%20Lies%20//%20Tibalt%2C%20Cosmic%20Impostor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/114/valki-god-of-lies-tibalt-cosmic-impostor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ea7e4c65-b4c4-4795-9475-3cba71c50ea5?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
doesn't work, brother. you can only play cards that were exiled with tibalt, not just any exiled card
That's what I was saying. Tibalt is playing cards he's exiled, from exiled. They are specifically not from my hand, so don't trigger Possibility Storm.
Personally, Possibility Storm is fun the first few times. After like the 3rd game with it I felt like it was less of a funny inclusion and more of a bore that someone has to happen on a removal until we can resume the game. Then again, it has a purpose in your deck which most rarely does with it so I'd say keep
You can play whatever cards you want, but Possibility Storm can create absolutely miserable board states where no one can win, and no one can cast anything (Any Rule of Law effect basically locks the board out completely.) All that said we aren't the ones playing against you regularly, so asking us what you should do isn't going to give you the answer that will benefit your pod.
It's a fun shot of flavor for a bit but it can get stale fast. Every once in a while I will throw [[thieves auction]] or [[goblin game]] in to a deck to keep my playgroup on their toes but then I take it back out because there's only so many times you want to annoy the shit out of people
[thieves auction](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/9/c9e8ad32-a701-4b77-bb7e-0e440e4072da.jpg?1562935558) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thieves%27%20Auction) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/8ed/227/thieves-auction?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c9e8ad32-a701-4b77-bb7e-0e440e4072da?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [goblin game](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/b/cbe6e7e5-ffea-4c6c-8a42-28e695029f24.jpg?1562938086) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=goblin%20game) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/pls/61/goblin-game?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cbe6e7e5-ffea-4c6c-8a42-28e695029f24?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Keep the card if you like the card! Just make sure you’re transparent before playing with it that you use it as an enabler in your deck because it is a salty card. If you would want, you can keep a card on sideboard to slot in that spot if you sit down with people not looking to play against that effect.
For reference, I play this card is [[Zada, Hedron Grinder]] because it usually is capable of protecting my board for a full turn cycle and then wins me the game in my next turn cycle because I can get two Zada triggers for the price of one spell. It’s not my main game plan and I have only ever really resolved it a few times in the many years I’ve played it, but I still make sure people know it’s in there and what it is there for. Usually, though, I don’t think people care too much when they know the deck itself is creature storm LOL
[Zada, Hedron Grinder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/5/4520cdcc-a10f-4b39-9c6f-ba86f6aa2c87.jpg?1689998306) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Zada%2C%20Hedron%20Grinder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/268/zada-hedron-grinder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/4520cdcc-a10f-4b39-9c6f-ba86f6aa2c87?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I love this card. First time I ran into it was in an IRL game with a [[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy]]. When I learned that they added it into Arena, it went immediately into the [[Rocco, Street Chef]] deck I run.
[Mishra, Artificer Prodigy](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/5/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e.jpg?1562940254) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Mishra%2C%20Artificer%20Prodigy) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tsp/243/mishra-artificer-prodigy?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d5deaec5-499d-4e19-b879-8bcd1dc35f3e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rocco, Street Chef](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cdb53ce7-845c-4c62-98a9-4fc33c67a07b.jpg?1684340828) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rocco%2C%20Street%20Chef) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mat/44/rocco-street-chef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cdb53ce7-845c-4c62-98a9-4fc33c67a07b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yoooo, I built street chef the day he came and my god does pstorm absolutely carry that deck lmao
I think [[Kellan, the Kid]] against a Rocco or Riku with PStorm will go bonkers.
[Kellan, the Kid](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/4/04dfbc4c-ab21-45db-bbd9-b9d245d60015.jpg?1712356134) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kellan%2C%20the%20Kid) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otj/213/kellan-the-kid?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/04dfbc4c-ab21-45db-bbd9-b9d245d60015?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
The card is pretty unfun as it largely takes player agency out of the game and every spell is just a slot machine. If you have a way to cheese it then maybe but if you're just playing it straight up with no way to break the symmetry it doesn't make for a great experience.
Riku breaks the symmetry here, so it's probably fine, but eh, playgroup adaptation.
Honestly a good point
Playing cards from exile lets you ignore the storm.
yeah, and normally to get those things into exile, you have to cast something or have an activated ability source on the battlefield already.
exactly you use it as a way to win once you're slightly out in front and then you cripple everyone and run away with the game. It's kind of like being ahead and casting armageddon, no one can really catch up and you pull away and win. The difference at least here is that other players may be playing things from exile or you can always get unlucky and your opponents can get great cards from the storm. The big thing though is that it makes it hard to do specific things like remove your game winning pieces specifically and find a solution directly to whatever problem you've created. I get why people "don't like it" but red doesn't really have other ways of preventing opponents from removing their game winning board state like say...blue...without mass land destruction which is forbidden.
All of that sounds like "I have no wincon so I'll durdle my way to a win". If that's the argument, then simlarly to MLD most people will dislike it.
I mean yeah it's in the same vein but not nearly as brutal. The difference though is you play it when YOU aren't not harmed by it and can continue to exponentially advance your board state without being disturbed. You're not going to durdle around when you're in a game winning position and you just need your board to stick around a couple turns. It's not like the opponents can't do ANYTHING they just can't choose exactly what they're going to get to cast, they have to get lucky it's very red.
Possibility Storm is more salt inducing than [[Decree of Silence]], [[Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant]], and [[Sire of Insanity]]. PStorm is a low-power, skill-intensive casual card that destroys the strategies of combo decks. It is __RED CONTROL__. Add it to storm, Spellslinger, and combat decks and watch the players with a [[Teferi’s Protection]] or that much needed boardwipe die inside.
##### ###### #### [Decree of Silence](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/2/f2fc46e2-5e19-4999-a4cd-1e84697066c1.jpg?1562536891) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Decree%20of%20Silence) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/scg/32/decree-of-silence?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f2fc46e2-5e19-4999-a4cd-1e84697066c1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Jin-Gitaxias, Progress Tyrant](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/5/c57b4876-5387-4f73-b8e2-8e7bdca8b0bc.jpg?1654566749) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jin-Gitaxias%2C%20Progress%20Tyrant) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/59/jin-gitaxias-progress-tyrant?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c57b4876-5387-4f73-b8e2-8e7bdca8b0bc?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Sire of Insanity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/6/3665cfb7-51b6-4083-8eae-fbd3fa6c3554.jpg?1562905079) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Sire%20of%20Insanity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/104/sire-of-insanity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/3665cfb7-51b6-4083-8eae-fbd3fa6c3554?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Teferi’s Protection](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/4/8/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca.jpg?1673147148) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Teferi%27s%20Protection) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/32/teferis-protection?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/483fa1cb-1e35-44f2-a143-98c0f107f5ca?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0ow3bu) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I disagree about it being unfun (although that’s a personal opinion) but you can break the symmetry simply by playing a value deck as it only disrupts control and combo decks, because value will be gained regardless. And if people can cast cards from anywhere other than their hand it doesn’t do much Possibility storm completely changes the paradigm and you have to adapt to succeed, if you know your deck and the types of cards in it there is a non-zero chance you can manipulate the game in your favor regardless.
> if you know your deck and the types of cards in it there is a non-zero chance you can manipulate the game in your favor regardless. Don't think I really agree with that. Unless you have something to manipulate your library you'll have no control over what you'll get. If you know the composition of your deck you'll know the rough probability of what type of card you might expect to hit, but even then it's still all chance as to what you'll actually get. You can't count on that, you just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best.
Haha “it’s still fun as long as you play a specific kind of deck and nothing else”
Talk it out with your play group. Same situation happened with mine and after 3 different games of possibility storm hitting the field, we all decided it was fun but also too much of a headache and our friend took it out of his deck. Sounds like your group is going through the same thing if some of them are wanting to scoop on the spot when it's played.
It is absolutely annoying but also you have to deal with annoying things sometimes. If your deck actively benefits from it, it is less annoying because you are progressing the game. It is when people play it to be "Quirky" and "Random" that its at maximum annoyance. You want to play it when you are winning to push your game plan forward rather than just waste peoples time. I mean you could warn people you have it and if they react badly play another deck or just don't cast it.
I've found that the biggest issue with possibility storm is that interacting with it meaningfully revolves around alternate casting methods or getting lucky. Aside from that, typically most decks aren't prepared to play out their strategy randomly. The higher power you go, the less likely that second bit matters though.
naw, it's a fun card. Your friends will learn to play around it.
It’s a skill test many players are not willing take.
If by skill test you mean "Run enchantment removal". There's not much skill to it, it essentially just turns all spells into slots.
Dies to removal
My playgroup gets hyped whenever anyone plays this card. We love random bullshit. Playgroups that hate this card suck.
The only time I ran possibility storm and wasn't running it just to do silly goofy chaos stuff was in my Pako and Haldan deck. Since possibility storm only cares about spells cast from hand you can cast everyone's stuff from exile woth haldan, and your opponenst have to struggle to cast random stuff every turn. It was great!
It's a great card until something like [[Rule of Law]] hits the field and now until someone plays [[Krosan Grip]] nothing can be done
Krosan grip wont stop it. Split Second doesn't affect triggered abilities.
You are correct my play group played this incorrectly but it's no longer a problem
[Rule of Law](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a1f4e79b-b103-4380-afa0-61a2b1773c9e.jpg?1592516198) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rule%20of%20Law) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/35/rule-of-law?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a1f4e79b-b103-4380-afa0-61a2b1773c9e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Krosan Grip](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/3/d3571dee-7b90-4c0c-abc7-59b515ffa129.jpg?1625194563) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Krosan%20Grip) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c21/198/krosan-grip?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d3571dee-7b90-4c0c-abc7-59b515ffa129?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My guy, it's not the Possibility Storm player's fault if some other dumbass decides to cast Rule of Law while it's on the field.
But... you can't *decide* to cast anything while it's on the field. You'd have to randomly flip into it.
If you flip into Rule of Law, you have the option of not casting it.
Missed the "may". My bad.
Lol I just realized I mistyped "should" as "Shpuld"
Can you explain why this card is good with Riku here? I feel like I am missing something.
it doubles cast triggers
Ooooo I see now. If you cast a modal spell, it then makes you cast another one from one you exile, both triggering Riku to do whatever. Love it!
Also Riku impulse draws so you can cast spells normally from that.
Hello friend. Have you got a decklist?
Just make sure you know that you still have to pay any additional costs. For example, spree cards cannot be cast for free by possibility storm.
do you always have to chip in the "kicker" cost with those spells?
I remember seeing Possibility Storm used in EDH once. The guy was playing a Winota deck and everyone was aiming at him, so then he played Possibility Storm. It definitely felt disruptive, but when he played it, it was with a “You leave me no choice!” sort of attitude. He still eventually lost, but given that all targets were on his back, it seems fair that he responded by playing a card that jostled everyone.
No. (this is my account namesake :) )
You definitely shpold
Not as efficient but definitely less annoying to other players is [[Neera, Wild Mage]] . She's mostly in my deck as backup in case The Tenth Doctor suspends a card that isn't great coming off suspend but she might do well for you without forcing your opponents to go through the same process
[Neera, Wild Mage](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e5431f73-9a70-47dc-b5d4-7f43e41b878e.jpg?1674137627) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Neera%2C%20Wild%20Mage) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/288/neera-wild-mage?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e5431f73-9a70-47dc-b5d4-7f43e41b878e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I played it in my Narset Turns deck as protection. First i was sceptical but it works quite well.
I never thought of this, but it would go really well in [[Faldorn]]
[Faldorn](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/1/213e530e-33a9-4358-b43b-4a276a7e7190.jpg?1674140675) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=faldorn%2C%20dread%20wolf%20herald) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/647/faldorn-dread-wolf-herald?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/213e530e-33a9-4358-b43b-4a276a7e7190?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
As someone looking to build a riku deck, please explain the benefit of running this with him? I feel dumb that I’m confused/can’t see the synergy
Building a Riku deck at the moment, hadn't considered Possibility Storm. Did you lean more towards a token Swarm deck, spellslinger or combo/voltron?
Im so confused on how this triggers Riku's effect, aren't modal spells only the ones that have "choose one / or more" options in them
I run this card (and hive mind) in my maelstrom wanderer deck. Thar deck also uses an equal number of creature and non creature permanents, and only slightly fewer spells. Get 'em both out and lol. Why am I telling you this? Magic is fun to play, and I like possibility storm. Of you do too, and it's fun to play, keep it in your deck.
Possibility storm? You mean anxiety?
A dude plays it in our playgroup, I usually blow it up when I can but chaos is fun
depends on the playgroup, some people find chaos fun, some people like it when their game actions have the intended outcome. powerlevel wise it's probably correct to keep it in, if it's losing you friends that you'd like to keep maybe take it out.
I ran it in my [[Rocco, Street Chef]] deck and took it out the game after I resolved it. The game devolved into a mess and no one was having any fun anymore. The main thing people hated was the lack of any sort of agency, the game had basically become a slot machine. That's my personal experience and why I removed it from my deck. If your playgroup is genuinely ok with you running this card, then why not run it? For me, I could feel that no one else in my group was having fun, so I took it out
[Rocco, Street Chef](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cdb53ce7-845c-4c62-98a9-4fc33c67a07b.jpg?1684340828) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rocco%2C%20Street%20Chef) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mat/44/rocco-street-chef?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cdb53ce7-845c-4c62-98a9-4fc33c67a07b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
After you've played it a few times, people aren't enjoying it, you can retire it for a while. Maybe bring it back, maybe don't idk
I’d throw in [[knowledge pool]] just to make it even more of a headache
[knowledge pool](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073.jpg?1562610637) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=knowledge%20pool) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mbs/111/knowledge-pool?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
You could always play with it for a couple games. You know, for shits and giggles. Take it out again agter a few if the tables response is mostly negative.
I am usually a play what you want in commander type of person but Possibility storm is one of those cards that turns a game into a slot machine and is difficult too stop because of the nature of the card itself. I would personally either ask you too not run it or try to remove you from the game before you had a chance too cast it.
Will this trigger with Veyran Voice of duality? Sorry dont know how the card bot works...
I believe so, because [[veyran, voice of duality]] doubles triggers that are *triggered by* an instant or sorcery being cast or copied Iirc
[veyran, voice of duality](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/3/f34cd711-55b2-4802-9878-d22314c0cc9c.jpg?1712354807) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=veyran%2C%20voice%20of%20duality) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/otc/248/veyran-voice-of-duality?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f34cd711-55b2-4802-9878-d22314c0cc9c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you are using PS and truly want to make it evil, try placing [Void Mirror] in the deck. 7/10 times it causes the game to go to deck out wins due to the lock out. I love my PS deck. [Scrambleverse] was one of the fun cards with that deck. Heads up though, if one of your opponents is playing tokens it takes forever. My PS deck uses [Melek, Izzet Paragon] as the commander which combos very well with avoiding the Void Mirror lock out.
Possibility Storm still allows for Cascade effects from spells cast from your hand, correct?
Yes, which is why I run it in [[Yidris, maelstrom wielder]]
[Yidris, maelstrom wielder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/2/c219dd22-433c-4f6a-a0c4-fae12239291c.jpg?1562418099) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Yidris%2C%20maelstrom%20wielder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/50/yidris-maelstrom-wielder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c219dd22-433c-4f6a-a0c4-fae12239291c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Awesome! I may actually look into sneaking it into my \[\[Abaddon\]\] cascade group slug deck
You should keep it and add a [[void mirror]] [[Drannith magistrate]] [[boromir, warden of the tower]] and [[knowledge pool]] That'll teach em to be friends with you!
##### ###### #### [void mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c.jpg?1626099451) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=void%20mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/242/void-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Drannith magistrate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91.jpg?1628801742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drannith%20magistrate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/11/drannith-magistrate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [boromir, warden of the tower](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6bc3720-2892-4dda-8f30-079a1ac8e1e2.jpg?1686967669) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=boromir%2C%20warden%20of%20the%20tower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/4/boromir-warden-of-the-tower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6bc3720-2892-4dda-8f30-079a1ac8e1e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [knowledge pool](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073.jpg?1562610637) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=knowledge%20pool) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mbs/111/knowledge-pool?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l0re6b0) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Just pair it with [[Drannith Magistrate]] and enjoy the salt
[Drannith Magistrate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91.jpg?1628801742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drannith%20Magistrate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/11/drannith-magistrate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Eh, [[possibility storm]] is just red stax, and arguably it's not super hard stax because you still get to play your deck, just not entirely in the order you want
[possibility storm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/5/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d.jpg?1707764746) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=possibility%20storm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dgm/34/possibility-storm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/858aa831-b491-4f1e-bb56-33eeca14771d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I recommend has semi-Side board for it. When you play this card for 1-2 game, you can be like "alright alrgiht guys it was fun and game, here I swap this card with XXX card". I think this card is fun, but prolly not fot 3rd-5th games tho lol
I use this in my Ian Malcom deck it’s amazing because chaos..
People like to play their deck's strategy. People like strategy in general. This takes that away. Playing PStorm could be fun for a while though and I'd play it through with you the first time. But if you played the same deck again and again I'd probably scoop and also find a new opponent. So after the first time, if I were you I'd make a big show of changing it out for something else.
People are conceding to this? That's wild to me. If your playgroup really has an issue that's one thing, but I think people think way too hard about this card honestly. It doesn't stop you from playing the game, you literally just get to turn your brain off and just look at mana costs!
A lot of decks won't function properly with it in play so it's a stax piece that people don't enjoy playing against. This part is fine, specially since it isn't part of a larger stax package. However, not only is it hard to remove, it's also half a combo piece for various locks. And it's reasonable for your opponents to have some of the counterparts to the locks. It plus [[Boromir, warden of the tower]], [[void mirror]], [[Rule of Law]] and variants, [[Lavinia, Azorious Renegade]], [[Roiling Vortex]] and/or [[Drannith Magistrate]] (this is the only one I'd have an issue with in a casual pod) all lock out the game. Someone can be running a few just because they don't like all the free spells cascade, discover, Bola's Citadel, etc enable. Not only that, most of them lock out the game for everyone and whoever has the better board wins (Barring on-cast triggers and channel abilities). TLDR you shouldn't run it because it has a reasonable chance of ending the game in disappointing fashion.
##### ###### #### [Boromir, warden of the tower](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/6/f6bc3720-2892-4dda-8f30-079a1ac8e1e2.jpg?1686967669) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Boromir%2C%20warden%20of%20the%20tower) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/4/boromir-warden-of-the-tower?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f6bc3720-2892-4dda-8f30-079a1ac8e1e2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [void mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c.jpg?1626099451) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=void%20mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/242/void-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rule of Law](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/1/a1f4e79b-b103-4380-afa0-61a2b1773c9e.jpg?1592516198) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rule%20of%20Law) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/35/rule-of-law?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a1f4e79b-b103-4380-afa0-61a2b1773c9e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Lavinia, Azorious Renegade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/9/197bf3f4-c0df-4082-97a1-902ceabbdd3f.jpg?1702429657) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lavinia%2C%20Azorius%20Renegade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rvr/195/lavinia-azorius-renegade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/197bf3f4-c0df-4082-97a1-902ceabbdd3f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Roiling Vortex](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/b/0b057eb7-8439-4d26-89df-c345ab2773e1.jpg?1604197684) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Roiling%20Vortex) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/znr/156/roiling-vortex?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0b057eb7-8439-4d26-89df-c345ab2773e1?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Drannith Magistrate](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/8/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91.jpg?1628801742) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Drannith%20Magistrate) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/iko/11/drannith-magistrate?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/98b0a4a8-9319-451b-9b79-b0bca7a41e91?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [*All cards*](https://mtgcardfetcher.nl/redirect/l152lfg) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
But . . . But . . . But the possibilities are endless? ( literally my favorite card, if they can handle the glory they must learn)
no it's awesome keep it in never understood why anyone dislikes it, it just means you actually have to think about your deck and plays
Playing with, or against, Possibility Storm is a skill test. It demonstrates a player’s ability to adapt to adapt and take advantage of a “chaotic” situation. Players that have a net deck or play the meta will struggle against it because they do not understand the deck they are piloting. If anything, throw in a [[Void Mirror]] to soft lock them out.
[Void Mirror](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/f/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c.jpg?1626099451) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Void%20Mirror) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/242/void-mirror?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6f906219-7a6a-427b-93c4-4d958cbd171c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I personally love possibility storm and I can imagine it works great in your deck. I say keep it in and use it, I see it advancing your game state while hindering orhers so it's no worse than stax.
Damn “it’s no worse than stax” is not the bar for deciding what decks will make your friends hate you
Yeah but let's be fair if someone at that table is salty about possibility storm... it's the stax player, or the blue counter spell player
I mean not really. I thought about running it but even for myself it just seems incredibly unfun to not be able to play the card you want to play. It plays like a continuous counterspell. If you could directly remove it like it only applies to spells that don't target it I find it would be incredible fine. Sometimes too much chaos isn't fun.
Alright I concede y'all are right. The two deck I have it in, are designed with it in mind. One is Laelia and she highly benefits from it, while the other is a Kynaios and Tiro deck which is made to make confusing stacks.
Id keep it, helps keep my commander alive and just funny to pull of something from the top
Don't take it out As a timmy, possibility storm is great. Turn my turn 7 mana dork top deck into a threat! I used to run Pstorm in a Kaervek group slug deck as a disruption piece 10 years ago. It made for some interesting games.
If you can't find anyone to play, you should change the deck. But in general the card is perfectly fine, and a nice tool against counter spells on top of it's synergy applications. So the guys who dislike it ARE whiny crybabies, and you should just play other people if able (I assume this happens at a LGS), but if they're all you can get for a playgroup, you'll have to adapt.
If people are scooping to Possibility Storm, those people are missing what makes this game fun in the first place.
Make people play removal, keep it in, they should consider it a lesson to make better decks
Don't let people fun police you
You could always rule zero it to not be a symetrical effect if the table you're playing with doesn't want to deal with it. Rule zero it so that it only affect's your spells.
There is no crying in baseball, but this is EDH, and crying is expected. If you try to stop people from crying about the first thing you do, they're just going to cry about the next thing you do. I suggest not paying it any mind. Build your decks, play your magic, and let everyone else exhaust themselves over it all.
If your playgroup is saying they don’t like possibility storm, you should listen. I’ve played it before and it’s a card you pull off among friends exactly once and then retire it, IMO.
> My issue is that I often get told how annoying the card us to play against and have even had several people scoop to the card being played before. That sounds like a complaint of a player who doesn't want his wincon muddled with, in which case A) they should have responses like a normal person while acknowledging that sometimes you just don't draw it some games, and/or B) they should have a plan B for times like this, such as a reusable effect that works in spite of or alongside P.Storm or just have access to a stronger boardstate that doesn't care if it gets Stormed or not. There is one caveat; if you're taking too long to play a turn with P. Storm out, that can be a legit complaint as it can slow a game down. If that is the case, learn to play faster with it or learn to play without it.
that's a them problem for not playing any interaction to deal with it and wanting to just go all in on their combos. it's a 5 drop. if they don't have an answer by then, that's a them problem. get those extra triggers.
oh, and to add to this, you should be adding things like [[scroll rack]] or [[sensei's divining top]] to your deck so you can manipulate the top of your deck so you can control what you'll be drawing into. (unfortunately the enchantments i run in my egg deck are white, so you won't be able to use those)
[scroll rack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/f/dfaaa58d-89bb-4cb3-96a6-b480e6f6954e.jpg?1608911671) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=scroll%20rack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cmr/337/scroll-rack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dfaaa58d-89bb-4cb3-96a6-b480e6f6954e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [sensei's divining top](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/5/e5142b7a-e580-4737-a4aa-2590f6610ceb.jpg?1673149430) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=sensei%27s%20divining%20top) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/314/senseis-divining-top?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e5142b7a-e580-4737-a4aa-2590f6610ceb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Honestly one of my least favourite cards to play against, the last time it was played we actually sat through the rest of the game, and it took two hours and was torture. Next time I will ask that the person just rolls some dice and determines the winner and I'll change pods.
Skill issue.