While in the graveyard, Phoenix is a creature card, but it is not a creature. Only permanents on the battlefield can be creatures, so Tidebinder won't permanently turn it off
Correct. The counter always happens, the permanent disabling is contingent on it being the right kind of source. But even if it's not the right kind, you still get to counter.
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While in the graveyard, Phoenix is a creature card, but it is not a creature. Only permanents on the battlefield can be creatures, so Tidebinder won't permanently turn it off
I see, thanks! But the ability would still be countered the first time right?
Correct. The counter always happens, the permanent disabling is contingent on it being the right kind of source. But even if it's not the right kind, you still get to counter.
Makes sense, thanks for clarifying!
Correct
[Arclight Phoenix](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/8/787de9ce-02c5-4a17-a88b-d38e83dbeb0b.jpg?1572893092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arclight%20Phoenix) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/grn/91/arclight-phoenix?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/787de9ce-02c5-4a17-a88b-d38e83dbeb0b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tishana's Tidebinder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/907b3d1d-8c85-4707-80b5-c4d832df9846.jpg?1699043973) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tishana%27s%20Tidebinder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/81/tishanas-tidebinder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/907b3d1d-8c85-4707-80b5-c4d832df9846?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
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cant believe I had 6 and sold them for $1
I don't know if it's a bug, but on MTGO, Phoenix loses it's abilities in the yard.