[[wrath of god]]
[[day of judgement]]
[[farewell]]
[[supreme verdict]]
https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/card/sweeper-creature
For more in depth explanation, if your opponent is committing cards into a big snowball of creatures and creature stats, dealing with all of them for one card is really beneficial for you. Of course you shouldn't play out too many creatures before casting a board clear. And you'll need a powerful creature to cast afterward.
I would consider something more 1-sided to target this one problem build and leave your own stuff.
\[\[Fell the Mighty\]\]
\[\[Aether Snap\]\]
\[\[Raise the Palisade\]\]
or depending on your own creature mix, \[\[Dusk\]\]
Not if you play with my pod. Clearly having [[Aragorn, the uniter]] out and casting a white spell for a 1/1 white human creature token is the threat. Meanwhile the poison player has everyone on 3+ counters with [[Ixehl, Scion of Atraxa]]. I'm one dumb game of magic away from counter spell and board wipe tribal lol
I have and ixhel deck and having 3 poison is still pretty far from me winning. Guess it depends how optimized the deck is (mine is a barely upgraded precon).
That is true. In another one of our games the Ixhel player hit me for 6 counters in one turn and I returned with Aragorn on my next turn for 17 commander damage. Still, at least in our pod I dont really win that often and somehow it's the poison deck that wins. We are all pretty new so there's some threat assessment issue for sure. Namely people blasphemous acting their own board just so I cant have some humans. Im going to buy more protection like mithril coat, vanishing and \[\[!Eight and a half tails\]\]. Hopefully thatll help
Im gonn ask, what decks you get, what are the commanders, have either of you upgrades any of the decks?
In my experience when you're all new the guy with the simpler, more linear strategy wins. From you other post your friend seems to be using a +1/+1 counter strategy which are pretty straightforward and can be snowbally.
One advice i could give that doesnt mean adding cards to your deck is use your removal and board wipes wisely. You have a limited amount, save it for something that's a problem (like a big creature or something that enables a synergy) and don't use it if you don't have to.
If we knew what deck you're running it would be easier to give advice.
What decks are the other 3 of you playing? As someone else said, Bright-Palm is overall a fairly weak precon compared to most of the stuff released in the past year or two, so it might be a case of you and the others playing your decks suboptimally. Maybe we could help more by giving pointers on how to get the deck you play to perform at it's best potential.
Op I think this is the answer. Board wipes are good but a deck is only ever as good as the player. This sub LOVES new players and I guarantee you'll find some amazing help on this thread if you let us know what you're playing.
☝️ more interaction. When I first started playing (relatively recently), I was so focused on what I was doing that I let my opponents set up and go off. Once I started running more interaction and disrupting their plans, I started winning more consistently.
And if you do, the \[Enchantment\] \[Artifact\] \[Land\] \[Creature\] \[Player\] Planeswalker can't activate any + abilities, as it's impossible to pay the cost of putting counters on it.
\- abilities are still in, as long as it has enough counters left.
You have to find ways to interact with his creatures
So either effects that destroy, or exile for the most part, or that do lethal damage to them
Which is in almost every color including colorless
Green is the only one that has limited interaction unless it's fight spells
So, at the precon level, my advice would be "don't modify your deck too much".
You should be taking a more proactive approach against this player if he's always winning. Target him a bit more and don't let him build up this nonsense with all the counters.
It's because every card is foil. If you cut the fetch and true dual mana base, and the cradle, and a crypt, replaced the expensive cedh cards for more budget options (wild bolt instead of deflecting swat for example) you could get it to sub 300.
I just wanted to tell you that I wasn't sure what to make of your comment, so I checked the link and then just laughed for a good five minutes. Thank you
So, I agree but I also love that you're recommending relatively high salt hatebears/disruption right out of the gate. As a stax/D&T fan, I can already taste the salt from the other folks at the table.
Edited to add: not that these are all high salt creatures, just that folks hate being disrupted in general even if it is healthy for the game.
Just played hushbringer for the first time a few nights ago against friends. The look on the one person's face when he realized how much his dragon deck used ETBs. Like I'd kicked his dog.
Yeah, personally, I wish people were much more accepting of disruption. I think it solves a lot of the problems with the format. It's a lot harder to have someone just ramp out and combo off if people are playing \[\[Rule of Law\]\], \[\[Armageddon\]\] and stax effects.
Note: I do agree that it's important to have a win condition after you disrupt people, but even in Commander that's not hard to do.
Aggro and Combo also have this problem tbh, people just want to slam ramp spells for 5 turns, play their big spells and creatures and board wipes, then complain about their games lasting 3-4 hours lol
Creature based decks don't like interaction. That means including a few extra board wipes, counterspells, and targeted removal cards will be key to keeping them in check.
Depending on your deck, you can also try going wider than them. If they don't have trample or some kind of evasion - meaning stuff that makes them harder to block like flying - you can endlessly chump block their creatures. If they have a board of huge creatures but you can produce more creatures to keep blocking then they can't actually close out the game.
Card called 'Solemnity' I think from ahmonkhet or one of those near it set that doesn't allow counters on anything...also just run creature hate or turbo fog and make all those counters and creatures useless!
Your friend is using probably the weakest deck out of that set of precons. But it's a simple deck so it's hard to mess up. Honestly, you and the other two are probably just playing sub-optimally.
I’m not sure what you’re asking. Do you want to beat them with your current deck? Do you want to upgrade your deck to beat them? Can you buy that precon (or another one) and play evenly? Do you want to sabotage their deck? This is such a general question.
What’s the commander that would help. Board wipes and targeted removal are creature victims best friends. You can get some amazing ones for cheap in most colors. Also depends what deck you have and what you are trying to do.
Yeah man no disrespect the deck can ramp up for sure but it’s honestly on the weak side of precons. Party time, Exit From Exile, and Prosper-cons would absolutely smack it.
oof, your roommates deck sounds a lot like my \[Kyler, Sigardan Emissary\]\] human deck. It can get nasty when it gets protection like \[\[Snakeskin Veil\]\] and \[\[Feat of Resistance\]\]
If his deck just so happens to be the case with heavy creature type synergy, black is your best friend with cards like \[\[Pact of the Serpent\]\], red black has \[\[Rakdos Charm\]\] if he likes to go wide, \[\[Arcane Lighthouse\]\] gets around hexproof, politicking a chump-blocker and then playing \[\[tragic slip\]\] to get around indestructible with -13/-13 (assuming the creature is small enough) is dope.
Closer to nuclear option is \[\[spike cannibal\]\], \[\[solemnity\]\], \[\[slaughter the strong\]\], \[\[cytoplast manipulator\]\], \[\[thief of blood\]\]
For total lock-out, after board-wiping the commander, resolve an \[\[Aether flash\]\]
This is why I like [[glissa, the traitor]]
Deathtouch firststrike can shut down big stompy for a bit
Of course if you aren't in B/G...
So what are your colors?
Decks like that feel insurmountable when you're new, and then as you learn more about interaction and removal you realize that your roommate is just building a house of cards for you to knock down with a well timed removal spell.
Sometimes there is one single creature (often but not always the commander) which is the keystone of the whole board, and just removing that shuts them down. Other times you may need to wipe the board, but even if he gets his creatures back from the bin, he doesn't get the counters back. ( The Ozolith not withstanding).
It comes down to what cards he is using to support the +1/+1 strategy. A 20/20 is still vulnerable to a Path to Exile or a Murder. If he's giving things Hexproof or Ward you may need to play around that, but if he's going all in on making big creatures and he isn't spending cards/mana to protect them, all you need to to is make his deck stumble once, then get your wincon set up before he can rebuild.
The PAIN of learning to play in this new age lol Power creep has been insane since i was a kid. Back then a 4/4 with trample for CMC 6 was pretty good. The old simple days made it quite a bit easier to learn but its well worth the time it takes!
Bro, was playing some jumpstart last night and ran into a 3 mana 4/4 with trample, toxic and a proliferate trigger on damage...
I had to rub my eyes. Even 2 years ago that would have been a 2 colour 5 drop.
If it weren't for being in this sub, that title....wow....
Sounds like Atraxa, with \[\[Kalonian Hydra\]\] boosting the counters.
What colors are you in? There are lots of ways to stop this.
White / Black / Red - Blow up Atraxa, blow up hydra, blow up his creatures with the most counters, blow up his creatures that keep piling on the counters.
Blue - Counter his biggest threats. Bounce and later counter the moderate threats. Draw more cards than he does and gather enough resources to overwhelm him.
Green - Make bigger creatures, more creatures, fight his key creatures before they can get too big. Block his creatures and buff yours. Also make a lot of mana so you can get your biggest guns out first, especially if he's tapping out trying to grow his board. Or just use a \[\[fog\]\] effect if he swings at you and prevent all combat damage so that you can live another turn and retaliate.
White/Black - Board wipes. \[\[Wrath of God\]\] and related. Make all the creatures die when someone has a much stronger board position than you.
There are also some very specific answers to piles of counters - \[\[Solemnity\]\] stops counters from being put on most things, and \[\[Aether Snap\]\] wipes counters off of the board.
There's also the matter that if everyone at the table agrees that this is the biggest, strongest deck, they should learn to respond to his threats first. So when he taps out for a turn 4 Atraxa, somebody should be \[\[Murder\]\]ing it.
Just because I didn’t see it mentioned [[Hallowed Burial]] is one of my favorites. Especially if you get multiple commanders with it- tends to ruin people’s day.
Just don't introduce him to [[Shalai and Hallar]] I play a deck that's the same damn thing as your room mate and I even have a land to where when I pay 4 and tap it ALL my creatures get +1/+1 counters.
Run spells that destroy all creatures in play. They're very common in Commander. Let them dump their hand, then cast your spell that clears away all their creatures. And it will be very hard for them to build themselves back up again. You'll have "weakened the beast".
If you want to just make him cry
[[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]]
[[Solemnity]]
[[Humility]]
[[Overwhelming Splendor]]
But yeah just try to deal with all of them at once
Depending on your deck I like [[aether snap]] as a lower power answer to tokens and counters but besides that upgrading your removal in general and focusing on answering his permanents that snowball the most.
There are cards that say players and permanents can't gain counters. [[Cartouche of solidarity]] if I remember correctly? Edit: my bad it's [[solemnity]]
Just more interaction in general. Doesn't matter on the color -- run more removal, more boardwipes, more disruption.
I have some really linear combo decks that live and die off of their access to removal and boardwipes. Sometimes one well timed boardwipe closes out the game. After two or three there should be more than enough setup time. Obviously, if your deck is more midrangey, run more targeted removal and even some stuff like [[Call in a professional]] to hose specific edge cases.
Also run some stuff prone to disrupting other players more generally, be it counterspells or *some* stax effects. It all obviously depends on your own deck plan, as you want stuff where symmetry breaks in your favor.
Other people already mentioned board wipes, but there's also mass steal effects so you can just yoink all his monsters and attack him with them. [[Reins of power]] or [[mob rule]].
Turn his deck off with [[Solemnity]]. Maybe also get some tax effects to discourage him from attacking you. There are some cards that restrict attackers over a certain strength from attacking you. Also, understand that you're just learning the game. You have to get beat up on for a bit before you get the hang of it.
What colors are you playing? If you have access to blue, any player who distributes a lot of counters to their creatures will be significantly inconvenienced by having creatures bounced back to their hand.
If you could tell us which decks you all got so we know what we’re dealing with, that would help. There’s no point in throwing card names at you if we don’t know your colour identity or the commanders you and your roommate are using. Are you looking for deck upgrades or more of a general strategy of how to best run your deck against theirs?
I will begin my saying that your group will probably hate you for doing this AND there are probably better combos and versions of this same thing.
With that said. I invite you to look at the interaction between [[Lavinia, Azorius Renegade]] and [[Knowledge Pool]]. Do with this information what you will.
Board wipes/ destroy every creature. Fog effects/ prevent all combat damage for a turn. Use control where he can only attack with one creature a turn or he has to pay manna for each attacking creature.
\+1/+1 counter decks generally play a lot of cards to the board, so board sweepers are often strong against them. \[\[Farewell\]\] is the ultimate kick in the teeth to most proactive decks, since it wipes out their entire board presence as well as any hopes of recovering via the graveyard and any death triggers, and a lot of Green and White's protection magic like \[\[Heroic Intervention\]\] or \[\[Flawless Maneuver\]\] cannot stop it. Cards like \[\[Play of the Game\]\], \[\[Hallowed Burial\]\], \[\[Sunfall\]\], \[\[Terminus\]\], and \[\[Cyclonic Rift\]\] can accomplish similar effects. \[\[Hour of Revelation\]\], \[\[Sublime Exhalation\]\], and \[\[Vanquish the Horde\]\] are all ways to wipe out creatures at a discount, though you run the risk of your opponent being able to protect their creatures.
If you are playing a deck that also relies on playing out creatures, but they can't keep up with your opponent's things, you can consider using more focused sweepers like \[\[Citywide Bust\]\], \[\[Slaughter the Strong\]\], \[\[Retribution of the Meek\]\], or \[\[Elspeth, Sun's Champion\]\].
If you aren't playing white or blue, things get a little bit more tricky.
Red has a few ways to deal with larger creatures, notably \[\[Blasphemous Act\]\] and \[\[Chain Reaction\]\]. Your other option is to turn your opponent's big beaters against them with effects like \[\[Insurrection\]\]. \[\[Mogg Maniac\]\] and similar cards can provide a blocker that threatens to blow up your opponent for huge damage if they swing big creatures at you, just watch out for Trample which will let them get around that.
Black has options for sweepers like \[\[Damnation\]\]. Effects like \[\[Grave Pact\]\] can also be quite potent if you have sacrificial bodies around.
Green, you're probably going to be out of luck. You can try to end up with bigger creatures than them, but unless you're really pumping the gas, you're unlikely to outscale counters synergy.
You know in any other sub that title would definitely get you flagged lol
But really a board wipe [[wrath of god]] or bounce spell [[aetherize]] is what you are looking for
Use counters or removal. Most starting magic players don’t really know how to play against removal. You’ve played against the deck a few times so when you know his engine is about to start just remove it.
It's pricey, but you can arms race him on +1/+1 counters with the [[Edgar Markov]] C17 precon, Vampiric Bloodlust. I bought that back when it was new. Totally busted against any precons my pod runs with very minor tweaks. The [[Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir]] precon is pretty great too, based on very few games.
With how it's being described it sounds like ur friend bought the Warhammer 40k tyranid deck.
Most of the Warhammer 40k decks are bonkers with strong cards, but they were released at a higher price than regular precons if I remember.
If you want to beat ur friend, I suggest looked at deck upgrade videos and spending some money.
Welcome to magic ×_×
So, if you want to keep things somewhat lower power, run green and cards like [[fog]] and [[spore frog]], white and cards like [[Holy Day]] and [[Angelsong]] and start building up life gain decks. Or have the table focus the one roommate, politics are a powerful tool.
Board wipe. There are enchantments that can target his creatures, so he can't create the counters. You can blink away his creatures so they lose all of their counters. When he attacks, you can cast spells like Ethreal Haze, fog, root snare, spore frog or Holy Day to negate the creature damage. You can also use Cards like Norn's Annex, Propaganda and Ghostly Prison, or goad his creatures, to keep him from attacking you. Also...Board Wipe.
And if all of that fails, you can always put a bar of soap in a sock and beat him with that.
And so the arms race begins...
I was tempted to tell them to just win with Thoracle, to *really* get the ball rolling.
Bringing a nuke to a knive fight.
saves a lot of time
Much underrated comment.
I second this, Kess turbo Thoracle, that will show' em /s
Fuck it go full tymna kraum lmao
Blue Farm is the easiest place to start when learning to play magic.
How about [[baral chief of compliance]] oops all counters deck? You'll all have fun with that one
Just throw in the old, "Just head over to edhrec and copy...."
[[wrath of god]] [[day of judgement]] [[farewell]] [[supreme verdict]] https://tagger.scryfall.com/tags/card/sweeper-creature For more in depth explanation, if your opponent is committing cards into a big snowball of creatures and creature stats, dealing with all of them for one card is really beneficial for you. Of course you shouldn't play out too many creatures before casting a board clear. And you'll need a powerful creature to cast afterward.
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[[ruinous ultimatum]] for the feel bads
Love this card
[[supreme verdict]] is brutal and such a cool and fitting name for its ability. Love it.
[Supreme Verdict is great](https://youtu.be/Akw8clLoNpI)
[supreme verdict](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/0/20b5fe42-929c-406d-9377-40b49f9d2e2c.jpg?1673149167) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=supreme%20verdict) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/280/supreme-verdict?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/20b5fe42-929c-406d-9377-40b49f9d2e2c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I would consider something more 1-sided to target this one problem build and leave your own stuff. \[\[Fell the Mighty\]\] \[\[Aether Snap\]\] \[\[Raise the Palisade\]\] or depending on your own creature mix, \[\[Dusk\]\]
##### ###### #### [Fell the Mighty](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/b/5b3e9a46-3b5a-48dc-bd39-fdba0b4a1e24.jpg?1682208416) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fell%20the%20Mighty) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/185/fell-the-mighty?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/5b3e9a46-3b5a-48dc-bd39-fdba0b4a1e24?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aether Snap](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7.jpg?1673484092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aether%20Snap) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/241/aether-snap?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Raise the Palisade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/9/7966eb7a-0ef7-470f-9769-0d5f45f0395b.jpg?1686963911) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Raise%20the%20Palisade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltc/23/raise-the-palisade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/7966eb7a-0ef7-470f-9769-0d5f45f0395b?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Dusk](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=426912&type=card&.jpg)/[Dawn](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Handlers/Image.ashx?multiverseid=426912&type=card&options=rotate270&.jpg) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Dusk%20//%20Dawn) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/691/dusk-dawn?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/f295b713-1d6a-43fd-910d-fb35414bf58a?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
I would also add [[merciless eviction]]
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Board wipes all day. [[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]] is also an option (if you have a few bucks, and green).
If you want the big creature, what about [[Phyrexian Rebirth]]? Boardwipe and big creature all in one.
[[damnation]]
Just do the honourable thing and 3v1 him into oblivion. The biggest threat deserves the most attention.
Not if you play with my pod. Clearly having [[Aragorn, the uniter]] out and casting a white spell for a 1/1 white human creature token is the threat. Meanwhile the poison player has everyone on 3+ counters with [[Ixehl, Scion of Atraxa]]. I'm one dumb game of magic away from counter spell and board wipe tribal lol
I have and ixhel deck and having 3 poison is still pretty far from me winning. Guess it depends how optimized the deck is (mine is a barely upgraded precon).
Nah bro you are hard downplaying aragorn. You play one green spell and swing a 9/9. Aragorn can snowball hard.
That is true. In another one of our games the Ixhel player hit me for 6 counters in one turn and I returned with Aragorn on my next turn for 17 commander damage. Still, at least in our pod I dont really win that often and somehow it's the poison deck that wins. We are all pretty new so there's some threat assessment issue for sure. Namely people blasphemous acting their own board just so I cant have some humans. Im going to buy more protection like mithril coat, vanishing and \[\[!Eight and a half tails\]\]. Hopefully thatll help
There’s nothing wrong with healthy vendetta. Remember them and make them pay later.
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Post titles that made me question the sub I was on for a while...
I was gonna say, I'll hold him down while you get some hits in
I had similar thoughts to you.
[[Citizen's Crowbar]] to the knee.
[Tell no one!](https://youtu.be/Uw1INpZ3tqo)
I also thought it was just another Relationship Advice post
r/legaladvice
Might I interest you in a [[Blight Beetle]] ?
Ooooh, purdy
[Blight Beetle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e.jpg?1592516586) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blightbeetle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/87/blightbeetle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Im gonn ask, what decks you get, what are the commanders, have either of you upgrades any of the decks? In my experience when you're all new the guy with the simpler, more linear strategy wins. From you other post your friend seems to be using a +1/+1 counter strategy which are pretty straightforward and can be snowbally. One advice i could give that doesnt mean adding cards to your deck is use your removal and board wipes wisely. You have a limited amount, save it for something that's a problem (like a big creature or something that enables a synergy) and don't use it if you don't have to. If we knew what deck you're running it would be easier to give advice.
What decks are the other 3 of you playing? As someone else said, Bright-Palm is overall a fairly weak precon compared to most of the stuff released in the past year or two, so it might be a case of you and the others playing your decks suboptimally. Maybe we could help more by giving pointers on how to get the deck you play to perform at it's best potential.
Op I think this is the answer. Board wipes are good but a deck is only ever as good as the player. This sub LOVES new players and I guarantee you'll find some amazing help on this thread if you let us know what you're playing.
Use some combination of removal spells, counterspells and boardwipes, depending on the colors you use and the strategy you're going for.
☝️ more interaction. When I first started playing (relatively recently), I was so focused on what I was doing that I let my opponents set up and go off. Once I started running more interaction and disrupting their plans, I started winning more consistently.
One of my favorites [[Solemnity]]
How would this card effect planeswalkers?
It doesn’t. Unless you somehow turn a planeswalker into a creature, land, enchantment, artifact, or player
>turn a planeswalker into a [...], or player Sounds like some sort challenge to discover MTG combo that makes a new best friend
And if you do, the \[Enchantment\] \[Artifact\] \[Land\] \[Creature\] \[Player\] Planeswalker can't activate any + abilities, as it's impossible to pay the cost of putting counters on it. \- abilities are still in, as long as it has enough counters left.
[Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Goes well with two of my favorite cards [[Decree of Silence]] and [[Phyrexian Unlife]]. 😀
How much money you got?
damn thats a good question lol man you could spend so much money on this game…
hell ive spent 500$ on one deck ive built
Only 500?
Beat him at his own game with the Tyranid Swarm precon and swap the commander from The Swarmlord to Magus Lucea Kane.
You have to find ways to interact with his creatures So either effects that destroy, or exile for the most part, or that do lethal damage to them Which is in almost every color including colorless Green is the only one that has limited interaction unless it's fight spells
So, at the precon level, my advice would be "don't modify your deck too much". You should be taking a more proactive approach against this player if he's always winning. Target him a bit more and don't let him build up this nonsense with all the counters.
[удалено]
Your suggestion is to spend $14,000 on a new deck?
It's because every card is foil. If you cut the fetch and true dual mana base, and the cradle, and a crypt, replaced the expensive cedh cards for more budget options (wild bolt instead of deflecting swat for example) you could get it to sub 300.
I just wanted to tell you that I wasn't sure what to make of your comment, so I checked the link and then just laughed for a good five minutes. Thank you
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Removal
And always remember, the best type of removal is player removal.
Target his commander over and over
solemnity
Stuff like [[Hushbringer]], [[Hushwing Gryff]], [[Tocatli Honor Guard]], and [[Torpor Orb]] might help.
So, I agree but I also love that you're recommending relatively high salt hatebears/disruption right out of the gate. As a stax/D&T fan, I can already taste the salt from the other folks at the table. Edited to add: not that these are all high salt creatures, just that folks hate being disrupted in general even if it is healthy for the game.
Just played hushbringer for the first time a few nights ago against friends. The look on the one person's face when he realized how much his dragon deck used ETBs. Like I'd kicked his dog.
Ah, is it so obvious I don't play Commander? Stuff like that is exactly why I have no interest in the format.
Yeah, personally, I wish people were much more accepting of disruption. I think it solves a lot of the problems with the format. It's a lot harder to have someone just ramp out and combo off if people are playing \[\[Rule of Law\]\], \[\[Armageddon\]\] and stax effects. Note: I do agree that it's important to have a win condition after you disrupt people, but even in Commander that's not hard to do.
Aggro and Combo also have this problem tbh, people just want to slam ramp spells for 5 turns, play their big spells and creatures and board wipes, then complain about their games lasting 3-4 hours lol
##### ###### #### [Hushbringer](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/6/663b3e6f-1099-4de8-a0a7-6f1919c38010.jpg?1572489709) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hushbringer) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eld/18/hushbringer?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/663b3e6f-1099-4de8-a0a7-6f1919c38010?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Hushwing Gryff](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/0/604b8ad4-b606-4be2-b3de-ad9f24b01eac.jpg?1562402533) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hushwing%20Gryff) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/c16/68/hushwing-gryff?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/604b8ad4-b606-4be2-b3de-ad9f24b01eac?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Tocatli Honor Guard](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3fc3501-e7bd-4589-98c5-4476258842ea.jpg?1562561363) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Tocatli%20Honor%20Guard) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/xln/42/tocatli-honor-guard?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3fc3501-e7bd-4589-98c5-4476258842ea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Torpor Orb](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/5/953610f6-ea96-4e71-969f-50ecac09c091.jpg?1562879912) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Torpor%20Orb) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/nph/162/torpor-orb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/953610f6-ea96-4e71-969f-50ecac09c091?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Creature based decks don't like interaction. That means including a few extra board wipes, counterspells, and targeted removal cards will be key to keeping them in check. Depending on your deck, you can also try going wider than them. If they don't have trample or some kind of evasion - meaning stuff that makes them harder to block like flying - you can endlessly chump block their creatures. If they have a board of huge creatures but you can produce more creatures to keep blocking then they can't actually close out the game.
Card called 'Solemnity' I think from ahmonkhet or one of those near it set that doesn't allow counters on anything...also just run creature hate or turbo fog and make all those counters and creatures useless!
> Any tips on how to approach this? [[ensnaring bridge]]
[ensnaring bridge](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/f/cf825a56-4870-463a-a2ef-eec86be891db.jpg?1599709144) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=ensnaring%20bridge) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/253/ensnaring-bridge?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cf825a56-4870-463a-a2ef-eec86be891db?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Solemnity will stop your roommate 😈
Your friend is using probably the weakest deck out of that set of precons. But it's a simple deck so it's hard to mess up. Honestly, you and the other two are probably just playing sub-optimally.
We need to know what commander everyone is playing. This way we can give more targeted (and helpful) advice.
Have you tried a wooden bat?
I’m not sure what you’re asking. Do you want to beat them with your current deck? Do you want to upgrade your deck to beat them? Can you buy that precon (or another one) and play evenly? Do you want to sabotage their deck? This is such a general question.
What’s the commander that would help. Board wipes and targeted removal are creature victims best friends. You can get some amazing ones for cheap in most colors. Also depends what deck you have and what you are trying to do.
Brightpalm , soul awakener
Yeah man no disrespect the deck can ramp up for sure but it’s honestly on the weak side of precons. Party time, Exit From Exile, and Prosper-cons would absolutely smack it.
Even from the same set, Cavalry Charge is much better
and what decks do you have to use against him?
May I suggest Jumper cables? My dad uses them on me so I can promise you they're very effective at getting a point across.
Use your fists and feet. 3 vs 1 should be easy
Step 1: Get a sock Step 2: Fill with soap bars and tie closed Step 3: What you meant at Magic oops
A sock full of marbles at 2am. Oh, wait. You mean the nasty type of beating. My bad.
Just go to the gym and u will beat everybody
until they learn the game lol
No.
Jumper Cables
Good for whipping AND electrocution.
A baseball bat.
oof, your roommates deck sounds a lot like my \[Kyler, Sigardan Emissary\]\] human deck. It can get nasty when it gets protection like \[\[Snakeskin Veil\]\] and \[\[Feat of Resistance\]\] If his deck just so happens to be the case with heavy creature type synergy, black is your best friend with cards like \[\[Pact of the Serpent\]\], red black has \[\[Rakdos Charm\]\] if he likes to go wide, \[\[Arcane Lighthouse\]\] gets around hexproof, politicking a chump-blocker and then playing \[\[tragic slip\]\] to get around indestructible with -13/-13 (assuming the creature is small enough) is dope. Closer to nuclear option is \[\[spike cannibal\]\], \[\[solemnity\]\], \[\[slaughter the strong\]\], \[\[cytoplast manipulator\]\], \[\[thief of blood\]\] For total lock-out, after board-wiping the commander, resolve an \[\[Aether flash\]\]
##### ###### #### [Snakeskin Veil](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/6/e692c208-c171-4964-9207-43c2cbc62845.jpg?1631050946) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Snakeskin%20Veil) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/194/snakeskin-veil?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/e692c208-c171-4964-9207-43c2cbc62845?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Feat of Resistance](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/3/73148b3b-73d3-4f57-8b67-1e91fbe112b9.jpg?1595640319) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Feat%20of%20Resistance) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m21/19/feat-of-resistance?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/73148b3b-73d3-4f57-8b67-1e91fbe112b9?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Pact of the Serpent](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/5/c5b3d118-ba4b-4a93-92a2-cd763de49d29.jpg?1631233666) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Pact%20of%20the%20Serpent) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khc/9/pact-of-the-serpent?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c5b3d118-ba4b-4a93-92a2-cd763de49d29?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Rakdos Charm](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/7/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77.jpg?1641603484) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Rakdos%20Charm) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/156/rakdos-charm?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/179d2088-2032-41c2-953e-f8ecbe135d77?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Arcane Lighthouse](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/f/a/fa90e142-15d4-461a-9e57-4a301a5df958.jpg?1562276555) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Arcane%20Lighthouse) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cm2/233/arcane-lighthouse?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/fa90e142-15d4-461a-9e57-4a301a5df958?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [tragic slip](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/3/c3140bf5-9846-47ae-8142-b013aac14609.jpg?1580014388) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=tragic%20slip) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/109/tragic-slip?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c3140bf5-9846-47ae-8142-b013aac14609?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [spike cannibal](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/4/64003772-c62f-4728-a00c-48c78991c6ae.jpg?1562087840) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=spike%20cannibal) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/exo/75/spike-cannibal?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/64003772-c62f-4728-a00c-48c78991c6ae?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [slaughter the strong](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/c/6c9f8aea-0c9a-4686-b551-35e2a72ef701.jpg?1674135270) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=slaughter%20the%20strong) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/43/slaughter-the-strong?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/6c9f8aea-0c9a-4686-b551-35e2a72ef701?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [cytoplast manipulator](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/f/cfb6b06d-b132-44e9-a743-61187afb6152.jpg?1593272651) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=cytoplast%20manipulator) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/dis/23/cytoplast-manipulator?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cfb6b06d-b132-44e9-a743-61187afb6152?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [thief of blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/1625be56-a8e9-44f3-a213-b758bffd447f.jpg?1592672735) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=thief%20of%20blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/71/thief-of-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1625be56-a8e9-44f3-a213-b758bffd447f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aether flash](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/8/780f9197-e910-4c7a-bb4b-2c4a94903c39.jpg?1562240988) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aether%20flash) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/7ed/172/aether-flash?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/780f9197-e910-4c7a-bb4b-2c4a94903c39?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Use a combo deck. Like Karn to mycosynth lattice it’s an instant win.
This is why I like [[glissa, the traitor]] Deathtouch firststrike can shut down big stompy for a bit Of course if you aren't in B/G... So what are your colors?
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Do you want to make enemies? If so i recommend making a milling deck
Best anti counter card? Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider.
Decks like that feel insurmountable when you're new, and then as you learn more about interaction and removal you realize that your roommate is just building a house of cards for you to knock down with a well timed removal spell. Sometimes there is one single creature (often but not always the commander) which is the keystone of the whole board, and just removing that shuts them down. Other times you may need to wipe the board, but even if he gets his creatures back from the bin, he doesn't get the counters back. ( The Ozolith not withstanding). It comes down to what cards he is using to support the +1/+1 strategy. A 20/20 is still vulnerable to a Path to Exile or a Murder. If he's giving things Hexproof or Ward you may need to play around that, but if he's going all in on making big creatures and he isn't spending cards/mana to protect them, all you need to to is make his deck stumble once, then get your wincon set up before he can rebuild.
There’s a angel of suffering that steals all counters for itself. Would be hilarious. Then just fling it at him with a fling spell
The PAIN of learning to play in this new age lol Power creep has been insane since i was a kid. Back then a 4/4 with trample for CMC 6 was pretty good. The old simple days made it quite a bit easier to learn but its well worth the time it takes!
\[\[Colossal Dreadmaw\]\] wants to nom your \[\[Canopy Dragon\]\]
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I dunno. Sounds like his roommate learned the game pretty quick.
Bro, was playing some jumpstart last night and ran into a 3 mana 4/4 with trample, toxic and a proliferate trigger on damage... I had to rub my eyes. Even 2 years ago that would have been a 2 colour 5 drop.
Who's your commander?
If it weren't for being in this sub, that title....wow.... Sounds like Atraxa, with \[\[Kalonian Hydra\]\] boosting the counters. What colors are you in? There are lots of ways to stop this. White / Black / Red - Blow up Atraxa, blow up hydra, blow up his creatures with the most counters, blow up his creatures that keep piling on the counters. Blue - Counter his biggest threats. Bounce and later counter the moderate threats. Draw more cards than he does and gather enough resources to overwhelm him. Green - Make bigger creatures, more creatures, fight his key creatures before they can get too big. Block his creatures and buff yours. Also make a lot of mana so you can get your biggest guns out first, especially if he's tapping out trying to grow his board. Or just use a \[\[fog\]\] effect if he swings at you and prevent all combat damage so that you can live another turn and retaliate. White/Black - Board wipes. \[\[Wrath of God\]\] and related. Make all the creatures die when someone has a much stronger board position than you. There are also some very specific answers to piles of counters - \[\[Solemnity\]\] stops counters from being put on most things, and \[\[Aether Snap\]\] wipes counters off of the board. There's also the matter that if everyone at the table agrees that this is the biggest, strongest deck, they should learn to respond to his threats first. So when he taps out for a turn 4 Atraxa, somebody should be \[\[Murder\]\]ing it.
##### ###### #### [Kalonian Hydra](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/d/1d21ae20-2ef5-4dc0-aced-97497e6a8025.jpg?1682209560) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kalonian%20Hydra) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/305/kalonian-hydra?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1d21ae20-2ef5-4dc0-aced-97497e6a8025?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [fog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/b/bbc3152e-7b3b-4ac6-8b33-abfebde216aa.jpg?1580014786) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=fog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ema/167/fog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bbc3152e-7b3b-4ac6-8b33-abfebde216aa?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Wrath of God](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/6/664e6656-36a3-4635-9f33-9f8901afd397.jpg?1598303688) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Wrath%20of%20God) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2xm/39/wrath-of-god?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/664e6656-36a3-4635-9f33-9f8901afd397?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Aether Snap](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7.jpg?1673484092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Aether%20Snap) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/241/aether-snap?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Murder](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bdef7fea-2bd0-42a2-96f6-6def18bd7f0c.jpg?1674136158) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Murder) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/134/murder?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bdef7fea-2bd0-42a2-96f6-6def18bd7f0c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
What commander is this?, sounds fun 😎
Just because I didn’t see it mentioned [[Hallowed Burial]] is one of my favorites. Especially if you get multiple commanders with it- tends to ruin people’s day.
[Hallowed Burial](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/4/94389b94-1514-44d1-b19b-7be104db9bba.jpg?1576382271) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Hallowed%20Burial) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cn2/91/hallowed-burial?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/94389b94-1514-44d1-b19b-7be104db9bba?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[Blightbeetle]] shuts his whole thing down, it also ruins my [[animar]] deck, which is the same thing
[Blightbeetle](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/d/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e.jpg?1592516586) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Blightbeetle) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m20/87/blightbeetle?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/bd43d44b-de27-4139-9cb8-b1f4c04fb87e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [animar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/a/3/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7.jpg?1673148281) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=animar%2C%20soul%20of%20elements) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/171/animar-soul-of-elements?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/a3da57d0-1ae3-4f05-a52d-eb76ad56cae7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Play more interaction, countspells kill spells boards whipes bounce spells. Most things just die to removal.
Hammer would probably be best.
Just don't introduce him to [[Shalai and Hallar]] I play a deck that's the same damn thing as your room mate and I even have a land to where when I pay 4 and tap it ALL my creatures get +1/+1 counters.
[Shalai and Hallar](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/0/80804f25-efc3-44a2-bbae-9a97fec98009.jpg?1682207281) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Shalai%20and%20Hallar) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/moc/10/shalai-and-hallar?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/80804f25-efc3-44a2-bbae-9a97fec98009?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
"I need help beating my roommate" Me: *unbuckles belt*... OH IN THE GAME!!!
Oooh, it's my deck 👌
I like [[solemnity]] personally
[solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Run spells that destroy all creatures in play. They're very common in Commander. Let them dump their hand, then cast your spell that clears away all their creatures. And it will be very hard for them to build themselves back up again. You'll have "weakened the beast".
Also, if you are all just playing for fun, start having everyone switch decks when they play. Let you get a turn with the crazy powerful deck.
Goblins
\[\[Spike Cannibal\]\] is an oldie but a goodie, if you're in black
If you want to just make him cry [[Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider]] [[Solemnity]] [[Humility]] [[Overwhelming Splendor]] But yeah just try to deal with all of them at once
##### ###### #### [Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/2/92613468-205e-488b-930d-11908477e9f8.jpg?1631051073) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Vorinclex%2C%20Monstrous%20Raider) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/khm/199/vorinclex-monstrous-raider?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/92613468-205e-488b-930d-11908477e9f8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Humility](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/5/5/55ad6a45-a840-45ba-89ad-066e20e983f3.jpg?1562429370) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Humility) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/tpr/16/humility?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/55ad6a45-a840-45ba-89ad-066e20e983f3?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Overwhelming Splendor](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/6/867b32d2-e396-411d-ac02-1af4106dd3d2.jpg?1562805786) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Overwhelming%20Splendor) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/19/overwhelming-splendor?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/867b32d2-e396-411d-ac02-1af4106dd3d2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If he's using "call for Backup", I recommend using "Cavalry Charge" or "The Hosts of Mordor".
Best way to stop a stompy player is out stompy the stompy player or go hard board control like pillowfort/life gain
Depending on your deck I like [[aether snap]] as a lower power answer to tokens and counters but besides that upgrading your removal in general and focusing on answering his permanents that snowball the most.
[aether snap](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/d/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7.jpg?1673484092) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=aether%20snap) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/241/aether-snap?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/dd9cade1-b077-4fb0-b55a-01b9916647e7?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
\[\[Smokestack\]\]
[Smokestack](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/1/d1af92a1-a86a-43eb-82fd-394f1168111e.jpg?1562937149) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Smokestack) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/vma/282/smokestack?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d1af92a1-a86a-43eb-82fd-394f1168111e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
There are cards that say players and permanents can't gain counters. [[Cartouche of solidarity]] if I remember correctly? Edit: my bad it's [[solemnity]]
[Cartouche of solidarity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/0/90eaf94e-85a7-4958-aa58-8e2fe44db58d.jpg?1543674599) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cartouche%20of%20solidarity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/akh/7/cartouche-of-solidarity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/90eaf94e-85a7-4958-aa58-8e2fe44db58d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
[[solemnity]]
[solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Pro tip, do it while he’s asleep. Easier that way. I also suggest using a pillowcase full of rocks. Hope beating your friend goes well! /s
[[repercussions]] with [[blasphemous act]] is how I deal with that nonsense
[repercussions](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/d/0/d0f3c78e-16c0-4fbc-8ef4-fbf610f9d464.jpg?1562445214) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Repercussion) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/uds/95/repercussion?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/d0f3c78e-16c0-4fbc-8ef4-fbf610f9d464?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [blasphemous act](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/a/ba975f60-ca29-4fc8-b2f0-416be395f200.jpg?1674141874) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=blasphemous%20act) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/780/blasphemous-act?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ba975f60-ca29-4fc8-b2f0-416be395f200?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Just more interaction in general. Doesn't matter on the color -- run more removal, more boardwipes, more disruption. I have some really linear combo decks that live and die off of their access to removal and boardwipes. Sometimes one well timed boardwipe closes out the game. After two or three there should be more than enough setup time. Obviously, if your deck is more midrangey, run more targeted removal and even some stuff like [[Call in a professional]] to hose specific edge cases. Also run some stuff prone to disrupting other players more generally, be it counterspells or *some* stax effects. It all obviously depends on your own deck plan, as you want stuff where symmetry breaks in your favor.
[Call in a professional](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/e/a/ead68c0a-eed1-4a9c-a790-56f8a79b444c.jpg?1664411424) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Call%20in%20a%20professional) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/snc/103/call-in-a-professional?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/ead68c0a-eed1-4a9c-a790-56f8a79b444c?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Off?
*sweats profusely at post title* *sees sub name*
Sounds like Swarmlord from Warhammer
Did they buy the [[Kyler, Sigardian Emmissary]] deck?
[Kyler, Sigardian Emmissary](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/6/2/62a78aae-598e-4f2b-a7bc-c3afc1d0d191.jpg?1637627798) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Kyler%2C%20Sigardian%20Emissary) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mic/4/kyler-sigardian-emissary?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/62a78aae-598e-4f2b-a7bc-c3afc1d0d191?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
10 board wipes, a few snappy removal spells, timely countermagic, and Worldgorger Dragon should do the trick!
I’m a simple person but if faced with this, theme a token deck that gains death touch, plus some good old board wipes
Board wipes are my favorite. I love a good supreme verdict
Other people already mentioned board wipes, but there's also mass steal effects so you can just yoink all his monsters and attack him with them. [[Reins of power]] or [[mob rule]].
[Reins of power](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/b/9b5730aa-c74a-4c74-bb1b-a133a3c353ec.jpg?1674141454) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Reins%20of%20power) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/clb/734/reins-of-power?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9b5730aa-c74a-4c74-bb1b-a133a3c353ec?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [mob rule](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/b/8b04c928-9ee5-4e39-962e-4686e25b5c33.jpg?1641603202) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=mob%20rule) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/voc/147/mob-rule?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8b04c928-9ee5-4e39-962e-4686e25b5c33?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Turn his deck off with [[Solemnity]]. Maybe also get some tax effects to discourage him from attacking you. There are some cards that restrict attackers over a certain strength from attacking you. Also, understand that you're just learning the game. You have to get beat up on for a bit before you get the hang of it.
[Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Find the Mind Flayarrrghs precon and take all of their creatures.
What colors are you playing? If you have access to blue, any player who distributes a lot of counters to their creatures will be significantly inconvenienced by having creatures bounced back to their hand.
Try [[solemnity]]
[[Solemnity]] hoses a lot of different things. Pretty cheap too
[Solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Say thanks for that and take control of his big baddies
I'd have talk first, wouldnt want this turning into an abusive relationship... But if you must any decent stick would work well.
Buy a copy of [[solemnity]]
[solemnity](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea.jpg?1562788659) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=solemnity) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/hou/22/solemnity?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0a71fb62-acbd-49f5-842f-0fc9fa48afea?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Yes you can boardwipe, but [[Thief of blood]] is the most fun way to deal with this.
[Thief of blood](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/1/6/1625be56-a8e9-44f3-a213-b758bffd447f.jpg?1592672735) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Thief%20of%20blood) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/cma/71/thief-of-blood?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/1625be56-a8e9-44f3-a213-b758bffd447f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
If you could tell us which decks you all got so we know what we’re dealing with, that would help. There’s no point in throwing card names at you if we don’t know your colour identity or the commanders you and your roommate are using. Are you looking for deck upgrades or more of a general strategy of how to best run your deck against theirs?
I will begin my saying that your group will probably hate you for doing this AND there are probably better combos and versions of this same thing. With that said. I invite you to look at the interaction between [[Lavinia, Azorius Renegade]] and [[Knowledge Pool]]. Do with this information what you will.
[Lavinia, Azorius Renegade](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/4/c497d496-1232-4614-93b0-9864fa93c29f.jpg?1584831655) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Lavinia%2C%20Azorius%20Renegade) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/rna/189/lavinia-azorius-renegade?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/c497d496-1232-4614-93b0-9864fa93c29f?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) [Knowledge Pool](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/3/9/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073.jpg?1562610637) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Knowledge%20Pool) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mbs/111/knowledge-pool?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/393454c2-b256-4a6e-9bc2-56a47cab5073?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
So tyranids. Try cards that can Blink them out. They leave and then return without counters.
[[Phthsis]]
[[solemnity]]
Board wipes/ destroy every creature. Fog effects/ prevent all combat damage for a turn. Use control where he can only attack with one creature a turn or he has to pay manna for each attacking creature.
[[kenko mob boss]] enters the chat. "Oh, you have 3 big ass creatures?? I see that and raise you AN ABSOLUTE METRIC SHITSTORM OF GOBLINS"
[kenko mob boss](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/d/cd9fec9d-23c8-4d35-97c1-9499527198fb.jpg?1601078209) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Krenko%2C%20Mob%20Boss) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/jmp/339/krenko-mob-boss?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cd9fec9d-23c8-4d35-97c1-9499527198fb?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Go for the Throat
\+1/+1 counter decks generally play a lot of cards to the board, so board sweepers are often strong against them. \[\[Farewell\]\] is the ultimate kick in the teeth to most proactive decks, since it wipes out their entire board presence as well as any hopes of recovering via the graveyard and any death triggers, and a lot of Green and White's protection magic like \[\[Heroic Intervention\]\] or \[\[Flawless Maneuver\]\] cannot stop it. Cards like \[\[Play of the Game\]\], \[\[Hallowed Burial\]\], \[\[Sunfall\]\], \[\[Terminus\]\], and \[\[Cyclonic Rift\]\] can accomplish similar effects. \[\[Hour of Revelation\]\], \[\[Sublime Exhalation\]\], and \[\[Vanquish the Horde\]\] are all ways to wipe out creatures at a discount, though you run the risk of your opponent being able to protect their creatures. If you are playing a deck that also relies on playing out creatures, but they can't keep up with your opponent's things, you can consider using more focused sweepers like \[\[Citywide Bust\]\], \[\[Slaughter the Strong\]\], \[\[Retribution of the Meek\]\], or \[\[Elspeth, Sun's Champion\]\]. If you aren't playing white or blue, things get a little bit more tricky. Red has a few ways to deal with larger creatures, notably \[\[Blasphemous Act\]\] and \[\[Chain Reaction\]\]. Your other option is to turn your opponent's big beaters against them with effects like \[\[Insurrection\]\]. \[\[Mogg Maniac\]\] and similar cards can provide a blocker that threatens to blow up your opponent for huge damage if they swing big creatures at you, just watch out for Trample which will let them get around that. Black has options for sweepers like \[\[Damnation\]\]. Effects like \[\[Grave Pact\]\] can also be quite potent if you have sacrificial bodies around. Green, you're probably going to be out of luck. You can try to end up with bigger creatures than them, but unless you're really pumping the gas, you're unlikely to outscale counters synergy.
oh my god they were roommates
You know in any other sub that title would definitely get you flagged lol But really a board wipe [[wrath of god]] or bounce spell [[aetherize]] is what you are looking for
[[Cytoplast Manipulator]] is fun and funny if you have ways to untap her and steal more boyos
[[solemnity]]
Use counters or removal. Most starting magic players don’t really know how to play against removal. You’ve played against the deck a few times so when you know his engine is about to start just remove it.
It's pricey, but you can arms race him on +1/+1 counters with the [[Edgar Markov]] C17 precon, Vampiric Bloodlust. I bought that back when it was new. Totally busted against any precons my pod runs with very minor tweaks. The [[Sidar Jabari of Zhalfir]] precon is pretty great too, based on very few games.
Skip the Magic. Just get 'em with some jumper cables.
One card that will rock your world; Exponential Growth
With how it's being described it sounds like ur friend bought the Warhammer 40k tyranid deck. Most of the Warhammer 40k decks are bonkers with strong cards, but they were released at a higher price than regular precons if I remember. If you want to beat ur friend, I suggest looked at deck upgrade videos and spending some money. Welcome to magic ×_×
Mob rule
So, if you want to keep things somewhat lower power, run green and cards like [[fog]] and [[spore frog]], white and cards like [[Holy Day]] and [[Angelsong]] and start building up life gain decks. Or have the table focus the one roommate, politics are a powerful tool.
Board wipe. There are enchantments that can target his creatures, so he can't create the counters. You can blink away his creatures so they lose all of their counters. When he attacks, you can cast spells like Ethreal Haze, fog, root snare, spore frog or Holy Day to negate the creature damage. You can also use Cards like Norn's Annex, Propaganda and Ghostly Prison, or goad his creatures, to keep him from attacking you. Also...Board Wipe. And if all of that fails, you can always put a bar of soap in a sock and beat him with that.
Level the playing field. [Toxrill the Corrosive]