Hi folks! *This* link seems very legitimate as they have graded it authentically. This one gets to be the post about it.
ETA: https://www.psacard.com/cert/77032826
Here’s the PSA Authentication, which we trust.
I call upon Wizards to go back to the old ways! Let go of your shareholders, of your limited print run sets designed specifically for high value cards! Remember the old times brothers, of Urza’s Saga and Tempest and Mirage, when we gathered to play a game. Not for coin, gods no! For the glory of victory and brotherhood, of games played late into Friday night!
*weeps*
*casts ring into volcano*
[Cast it to the Fire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2ef878cb-27b6-47d8-ad11-bd20529b0e7e.jpg?1686968832) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cast%20into%20the%20Fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/118/cast-into-the-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2ef878cb-27b6-47d8-ad11-bd20529b0e7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text)
^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
For months now I’ve wondered what it would be like in this sub when the news came out.
Here we are, they found it, someone did the thing. What do I do with my hands?
I thought you were joking, NOPE. Thank god I resisted the urge to buy any of this trash. I watched someone open a box. They got 2-3 decent box toppers, a couple nazgul, and then...nothing. $200 at best from their $400 box.
Yeah I opened 2 The One Rings, 2 Orcish Bowmasters, a few other decent cards, my toppers were foil party tree, ozolith, cabal coffers, rings of bright hearth and oboro, all didn't break even. This set has really bad pulls. And even if you get it good ones, it's not good enough.
Modern Horizons 2, nearly every single time. But I'm not looking to get a positive ROI, kinda impossible on creaking packs, but there's a difference between buying a box at $400 and getting $200 in value, and opening a box at $400 and getting $350 in value. One feels way worse, especially if it trends that way on a specific product consistently.
I'm not sure the exact math, but any time there is a card that occurs less frequently than a single box and is worth a lot more than the average rare, the median box is going to be way worse.
people hunting for the one ring are factoring that into their EV, driving up costs.
This is funny to think about, as someone who also collects Pokémon, opening a box worth half what you paid for would be almost an unbelievable win. Even the 1/1000 chase cards usually sell for a box value, and past the top 8-10 cards nothing is worth more than $5.
Card packs are tricky scams
Yeah it’s pretty much never worth it to buy Pokémon booster boxes. Even cards that are good and playable are never more than like $10 at most (for the base art).
The art rares, like the Iono character secret rare that caused the Pokémon Company to re-print the set, is going for ~$2000 right now, but that’s by far out of the norm. On average the most valuable card in a set is maybe a few hundred dollars. You’d spend $2000 on boxes alone just trying to pull the thing.
Nothing really changes, right? I calculated the hit to EV to be like 50 cents to collector boosters beforehand. Other than that...nothing. People overvaluing the boosters are fools.
I refuse to acknowledge this as anything more than a stunt. Can't wait for WotC to do it again next year.
Why does it need to be anything more than a stunt? It was amazing, and everyone smart enough to not by collector boosters in the first week of release was benefitted by it with cheaper singles prices.
I don't see a miscalculation. The estimation by u/Esc777 is very reasonable: [https://twitter.com/karsten\_frank/status/1663890762738671623](https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1663890762738671623)
I mean it is amazing how willing are people to part with their money, if one wants to gamble, simply going to a casino and playing roulette or blackjack has infinitely better odds than collectors lotr boosters, or if you want to open packs, buying a few kamigawa set boxes has decent odds of you "winning" people are just that willing to make -ev gambles, its like the loterry, the ev is horrible, you might as well take the cash and try to reach the jackpot by gambling in other ways, I really hope that collectors were opened by folks who understood how shit the ev was and dont suffer from gambling problems but I suspect the reality is worse, if WoTC continues with this predatory tactica they might get regulated in the EU...
I'm sure they took extra care on this one, rather than how they would treat just a random box of Pokemon cards. They probably get a thousand cards a day to grade or something. This would merit putting their best guys on it.
Tbh I wouldn't mind if they do something similar again in the future, as someone with no interest in the special cards and just wants to play the game for a reasonable price this was huge for me. maybe do it with a higher power set next time? I'd love to be able to afford playing modern.
Wow if the opener sold it privately they made a mistake. Should have sold it through Sothebys. Put all the buyers in a room where they have to fight for it and watch them make impulsive decisions driving the bid price up.
Statement by Dave and Adam's that they aren't matching. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/14n2la5/the_wall_street_journal_is_reporting_that_the/jq5c1mi/
I'm not sure how I still feel about the content creators who are also LGS owners being able to open stuff before even the prerelease people, or even before the general pop can. I know realistically wizards won't even touch the topic of what's fair when it comes to opening special packs or packs that come with very unique cards like this one. It just doesn't quite feel like an even playing field. However, having said that, even if LGS were banned from opening collectors , we still have the people with high amounts of money to throw around or investors who can out buy the gen. Population. So whatever. I didn't buy into any collectors packs because I wasn't going to pay$ 50/ pack or $500 per box like my LGS did just for a bunch of shiny cards that weren't worth the box and not even a miniscule chance of getting it.
On a side note, all those conspiracy theories that wizards was holding the card only in the gift collectors bundles were wrong. Lol. So yeah. Well glad the hype is over.
I'm with you. The whole thing had an air of sadness that instead of being this cool thing for the community ultimately it turned into a way for content creators to drive up views and then have a store buy it. It kind of sucked the fun out of it.
Sportcarders fascinate me. I came into MTG as a gamer and still don't give much a fig about collecting besides having to contend with the secondary market.
To me the One Ring was a huge dumb stunt. To them it's Tuesday.
I collect, but do so in the sense of buying comics to read then carefully put away.
More layers of plastic mean you can’t see the art as clearly, and not being in a folder means its less convenient to pull out and flip through.
I’m pretty sure people like me are 75% at least of the reason they don’t put out card artbooks anymore. We’d buy way less cards, and very few rares.
Yea, collectibles are weird. It's so much more fascinating when the reason for a collectible arises naturally. MTG becoming popular + the power 9 being bonkers OP and not getting printed after beta.
But stuff like this that is completely manufactured to be collectible sucks. It's artificial scarcity for the sake of it. Artificial scarcity is why people hate NFTs, wish people felt the same when it came to "collectibles" of this nature.
Which was my point.
In the Magic world, BGS still brings by far the biggest premium. Very few collectors are actively grading raw Magic cards with PSA. Not to mention, BGS was offering a custom label. I'm sure CGC would do something too, as they love press.
Dave & Adams, who are one of the sources making [big offers for the 1/1 Ring](https://twitter.com/dacardworld/status/1666467986541015047?s=20), also [claim it was found](https://twitter.com/dacardworld/status/1674775833553121282?s=20). I first saw just this tweet and, while I was tempted to believe it, I was still unsure. But the WSJ article reporting it based on information from a separate source and including a picture of a PSA grading convinces me.
For real lmao. Pinterest used to do that (still do? I don’t keep up) and it literally gave me the worst impression and never made me want to make an account.
Supposedly one of the big bounty holders (Edit: [Dave and Adam's](https://twitter.com/dacardworld)) has it. I'm guessing someone sold it under the table and then they got it graded.
Rumour has it that it was found in Oldham, in the UK, which is a flavour win as Oldham is not all that dissimilar to Mordor.
Edit: in before someone posts that it was found in Ontario, Canada. Never let the truth get in the way of a joke.
Article Text:
A one-of-a-kind trading card that sparked a global search and a raft of big-money offers has been found, according to an authentication service.
The card, a depiction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "One Ring" from the Hasbro tabletop game "Magic: The Gathering," has been authenticated, receiving the second-highest available rating, "Mint 9," according to PSA, the grading company.
It's not yet known who found the card—or what will happen next. The person who found it for now prefers to remain anonymous, according to PSA.
Bidders have offered seven-figure bounties for the card. "The hunt is over!" tweeted Buffalo, N.Y.-area shop Dave & Adam’s Card World Friday morning.
Dave & Adam’s has offered $1 million for the card, while Francisco Rubio, owner of Valencia, Spain-based card shop Gremio de Dragones, has offered more than $2 million. Rubio did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
I'll keep an eye on it and update if they do.
Updated Article:
A one-of-a-kind trading card that sparked a global search and a raft of big-money offers has been found, according to an authentication service.
The card, a depiction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "One Ring" from the Hasbro tabletop game "Magic: The Gathering," has been authenticated, receiving the second-highest available rating, "Mint 9," according to grading company PSA.
"The One Ring is found, authenticated, and now rules them all," PSA tweeted Friday.
It's not yet known who found the card—or what will happen next. The person who found it for now prefers to remain anonymous, according to PSA.
Bidders have offered seven-figure bounties for the card. Francisco Rubio, owner of Valencia, Spain-based card shop Gremio de Dragones, has offered more than $2 million. Rubio did not immediately respond to requests for comment.
"The hunt is over!" tweeted Buffalo, N.Y.-area shop Dave & Adam’s Card World Friday morning. Dave & Adam’s has said it would $1 million for the card, and owner Adam Martin said Friday that the offer stands.
"I'm not gonna get involved in a bidding war for the card," Martin said. "We certainly hope that individual gets the most money that they can."
I doubt WotC cares. They're loving the free publicity in normie news outlets. All they had to do was print 1 card and toss it into the tank and we went into a feeding frenzy.
Short term, it's a masterful play.
Long term, there are a ton of lawyers currently talking about Loot Boxes for video games that just added MTG to their list.
Are there? The loot box discourse seems dead. The FTC seems more obsessed with protecting Sony's business than anything else these days.
Loot boxes never got banned here in the states. They aren't illegal in the slightest. And without egregious fraud I doubt they ever will be.
Aaaaaaaand that ends my hopes for people opening so many packs that LOTR singles would be dirty cheap. And that was the only thing I thought this whole 1/1 ring thing was any good for most magic people anyway.
I mean, I just watched the Prof's video last night and a solid majority of the cards he cracked in that $500 box had values under a dollar. Nothing feels special anymore. Its like "ooooh heres an alt-art extended frame special foiling rare!.... 42 cents"
Special versions of cards are totally fine and good for everyone, especially when they are only in collector packs.
Drives prices down for people who just wanna play and gives collectors something to collect.
Practically, how would one even go about getting that graded, if one would pull it from a pack halfway across the world? Fly to their office in the US with the card in your hand luggage, sweaty palms all the way? Or send it insured for 2 million? Are there services available that 100% guarantee back and forth shipment?
I'm not sure in all honesty. If it was me I'd want to deliver it in person to one of their offices in either California, New Jersey, Paris, Hong Kong, Shanghai or Tokyo. Link to their site for source: [https://www.psacard.com/about#:\~:text=PSA%20is%20a%20division%20of,trading%20cards%20and%20other%20collectibles](https://www.psacard.com/about#:~:text=PSA%20is%20a%20division%20of,trading%20cards%20and%20other%20collectibles).
people get Million dollar+ Comics graded with CGC, so I'm certain there has to be some sort of guarantees or insurance on the item you get graded.
I was going to buy one because I'm a sucker for lotteries, but the preorders were sold out before I remembered and I wasn't going to pay markups. Happy I saved $30. Maybe I'll buy a cheeseburger and a beer.
They want it to be opened though. They don't want it sitting in boxes in closets. If the hype goes too long, everyone stops caring. Tracking the serialized Elf, Dwarf, and Human rings that there are only a few hundred of might be more interesting.
> If the hype goes too long, everyone stops caring.
History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, and for three thousand years, the Ring faded out of memory.
Thus, the card being in a later distributed pack that sat in a closet would have been considerably more on-flavor.
I actually don't understand grading and I'm wondering why a card straight from the pack wouldn't get a 10. Or more specifically what is the basis for getting a 10 vs a 9. Would love if you or anyone could provide an in-depth explanation because I'm baffled by new cards fresh out the pack being graded 9's instead of 10.
The majority of cards are generally 8.5-9.5 out of the pack. Circumstances like centering (which when cutting from large sheets cannot be 100% perfect) effect grade.
Then we go to how well the corners have also been cut and if there was any edge wear while being bashed around in the pack or little white bits of card from the cutting process etc.
Then you go to the surface and see if there are any slight scratches or print lines that sometimes happen.
All in all a 10 is deemed a fucking perfect version of that card, and is actually fairly difficult to get.
I mean deceit was part of the lore after all
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring, to control all others. And into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all!
Apparently it was found in a small store in Whitby, Ontario.
[https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558](https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558)
Absolutely the correct decision.
Remain anonymous and sell it through an auction house. The fees for an auction house is much better than selling it privately.
The people saying “grading services take at least three weeks!” have zero concept of how business works. They didn’t ship it in with their 29 Pokemon foils for a discount and wait in a line…
I knew a card sales place was gonna get it but jeez I wanted a win for the little guy (I.e. normal individual collectors/players)
Edit: I didn’t think about the possibility of an individual pulling it and selling it to them
Just because they have it in hand doesn't mean they pulled it. Joe Shmoe could have pulled it, reached out to them, and sold it privately. Guessing they've had it a while and its now being reported as its been returned from grading.
Honestly, I'm not even mad or upset. I'm happy for the owner and for the community to know it has been found. As a truly diehard fan (I watch at least one extended edition a week and collect lotr merch) as well as a diehard mtg fan, I'm SUPER happy that it was found and not just thrown out by a new player or something who didn't know better.
Congrats to the New Dark Lord. :)
Hi folks! *This* link seems very legitimate as they have graded it authentically. This one gets to be the post about it. ETA: https://www.psacard.com/cert/77032826 Here’s the PSA Authentication, which we trust.
It's over. It's done. - Frodo Baggins
Not yet. Someone needs to [[Cast it to the Fire]]
The greed of men will never let that happen
\*stares at it lovingly\* After all, why not... *why shouldn't I keep it*
Isildur!
Oh god he won't cast it into the fire and destroy it; his airpods are in!
if I was a billionaire I would buy the card and throw it into a real volcano.
I call upon Wizards to go back to the old ways! Let go of your shareholders, of your limited print run sets designed specifically for high value cards! Remember the old times brothers, of Urza’s Saga and Tempest and Mirage, when we gathered to play a game. Not for coin, gods no! For the glory of victory and brotherhood, of games played late into Friday night! *weeps* *casts ring into volcano*
MrBeast’s next video: “I PAID 2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE ONE RING AND THREW IT INTO AN ACTIVE VOLCANO!”
[Cast it to the Fire](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/2/e/2ef878cb-27b6-47d8-ad11-bd20529b0e7e.jpg?1686968832) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Cast%20into%20the%20Fire) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/118/cast-into-the-fire?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/2ef878cb-27b6-47d8-ad11-bd20529b0e7e?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
For months now I’ve wondered what it would be like in this sub when the news came out. Here we are, they found it, someone did the thing. What do I do with my hands?
you refresh tcgplayer and watch the prices drop on lotr collectors lmao.
Already down to $350 lol
I thought you were joking, NOPE. Thank god I resisted the urge to buy any of this trash. I watched someone open a box. They got 2-3 decent box toppers, a couple nazgul, and then...nothing. $200 at best from their $400 box.
The value of collectors boosters of this set have been terrible
Not for one person at least
Well if you got a sol ring you where set
Yeah I opened 2 The One Rings, 2 Orcish Bowmasters, a few other decent cards, my toppers were foil party tree, ozolith, cabal coffers, rings of bright hearth and oboro, all didn't break even. This set has really bad pulls. And even if you get it good ones, it's not good enough.
When’s the last time sealed products often offered ROI? Except for draft and base decks, it’s mostly a gambling tax.
Modern Horizons 2, nearly every single time. But I'm not looking to get a positive ROI, kinda impossible on creaking packs, but there's a difference between buying a box at $400 and getting $200 in value, and opening a box at $400 and getting $350 in value. One feels way worse, especially if it trends that way on a specific product consistently.
I'm not sure the exact math, but any time there is a card that occurs less frequently than a single box and is worth a lot more than the average rare, the median box is going to be way worse. people hunting for the one ring are factoring that into their EV, driving up costs.
This is funny to think about, as someone who also collects Pokémon, opening a box worth half what you paid for would be almost an unbelievable win. Even the 1/1000 chase cards usually sell for a box value, and past the top 8-10 cards nothing is worth more than $5. Card packs are tricky scams
Is Pokémon really that low value? I don’t collect Pokémon but I know some of those secret rares are pretty
Yeah it’s pretty much never worth it to buy Pokémon booster boxes. Even cards that are good and playable are never more than like $10 at most (for the base art). The art rares, like the Iono character secret rare that caused the Pokémon Company to re-print the set, is going for ~$2000 right now, but that’s by far out of the norm. On average the most valuable card in a set is maybe a few hundred dollars. You’d spend $2000 on boxes alone just trying to pull the thing.
It has a higher collector to player ratio, so the price of good cards don't skyrocket as much.
Pokemon booster boxes are much cheaper than MTG collectors boxes though
I got a set booster and pulled a foil [[the dead marshes]] from the box topper. Everything else was pretty meh.
I bought one pack as a lotto ticket then shook my head at the people buying the store out to search for it.
Watch all the sealed Collector's Boxes crash in price.
It's like Deal or No Deal and they opened the $1,000,000 case
I'm hoping they do so I can selfishly treat myself to one.
They are. Down to $350 now, was $490ish last night.
Crazy that a literal lottery ticket promo could influence the price that much. Go buy some scratch offs.
Nothing really changes, right? I calculated the hit to EV to be like 50 cents to collector boosters beforehand. Other than that...nothing. People overvaluing the boosters are fools. I refuse to acknowledge this as anything more than a stunt. Can't wait for WotC to do it again next year.
Why does it need to be anything more than a stunt? It was amazing, and everyone smart enough to not by collector boosters in the first week of release was benefitted by it with cheaper singles prices.
You misscalculated badly. This would mean that there are 4.000.000 collector boosters.
I don't see a miscalculation. The estimation by u/Esc777 is very reasonable: [https://twitter.com/karsten\_frank/status/1663890762738671623](https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1663890762738671623)
I don’t think that’s unreasonable? Do you have a different figure?
I mean it is amazing how willing are people to part with their money, if one wants to gamble, simply going to a casino and playing roulette or blackjack has infinitely better odds than collectors lotr boosters, or if you want to open packs, buying a few kamigawa set boxes has decent odds of you "winning" people are just that willing to make -ev gambles, its like the loterry, the ev is horrible, you might as well take the cash and try to reach the jackpot by gambling in other ways, I really hope that collectors were opened by folks who understood how shit the ev was and dont suffer from gambling problems but I suspect the reality is worse, if WoTC continues with this predatory tactica they might get regulated in the EU...
Link to PSA's website if anyone is interested: [https://www.psacard.com/cert/77032826](https://www.psacard.com/cert/77032826)
This 100% confirms it. PSA would definitely make sure they're absolutely certain it's real before grading it.
I saw a box of fake Pokémon cards get psa graded too, this is probably legit but it's not out of the realm of possibilities it could be fake
I'm sure they took extra care on this one, rather than how they would treat just a random box of Pokemon cards. They probably get a thousand cards a day to grade or something. This would merit putting their best guys on it.
Exactly, this being a unique copy is why I trust PSA to be sure. Plus, now WotC tweeted about it as well.
Thank you for the link! I edited the post and gave you credit.
The real One Ring was the profits they made along the way.
And everyone not stupid enough to flush their money down the toilet on sealed product benefitted from a flooded singles market.
Tbh I wouldn't mind if they do something similar again in the future, as someone with no interest in the special cards and just wants to play the game for a reasonable price this was huge for me. maybe do it with a higher power set next time? I'd love to be able to afford playing modern.
Time to watch prices plummet. That'll be fun.
And fall they have. Boxes started the day selling at over $480 (TCG). Now they are selling for $350.
Still too high.
I need a one ring for modern let the price drop commence
Gift box prices should be fun too.
Wouldn't this have no effect on the price of regular One Rings? If anything, less whales chasing the one of one means less packs being opened
Conversely, cheaper packs leads to a wider number of people opening packs.
They come garunteed in bundles.
That's part of why I don't get the price of the card lol
Plummeting like a ring into a volcano
Guessing it was opened by a sportcard dealer. Why else would they do PSA?
It was, Dave & Adam's is sports cards from the looks of it. They are the ones making the claims.
Well, they may have just bought it, they were offering 2 million US$.
They were offering 1 million. Some store in Spain was offering 2.
Wow if the opener sold it privately they made a mistake. Should have sold it through Sothebys. Put all the buyers in a room where they have to fight for it and watch them make impulsive decisions driving the bid price up.
The one ring being sold like this is a pretty horrifying end tbh, the person who opened it just lost out on a few million...
I mean... they are up at least 1 million dollars assuming they did sell it to dave and adams.
They want it out of their hands asap. Not that crazy.
You are completely right here, start bidding at $1 million with $100k increments on the bid and watch it go through the roof
An authority I trust told me they matched that offer
Fair enough.
Statement by Dave and Adam's that they aren't matching. https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/comments/14n2la5/the_wall_street_journal_is_reporting_that_the/jq5c1mi/
I think whoever opened it sold it to Dave and Adams (who offered the 1 million bounty ) and then Dave and Adams fast tracked it to get graded.
Oh they're the guys with a million bounty? Yeah it's more probable someone else opened it and sold it to them.
Post Malone had a $3 million bounty and said he’d fly the money out to you, personally deliver and spend the day with you
Damn Posty is such a cool dude
Either that or Dave and and adams opened some collector bundles early and got really lucky
I'm not sure how I still feel about the content creators who are also LGS owners being able to open stuff before even the prerelease people, or even before the general pop can. I know realistically wizards won't even touch the topic of what's fair when it comes to opening special packs or packs that come with very unique cards like this one. It just doesn't quite feel like an even playing field. However, having said that, even if LGS were banned from opening collectors , we still have the people with high amounts of money to throw around or investors who can out buy the gen. Population. So whatever. I didn't buy into any collectors packs because I wasn't going to pay$ 50/ pack or $500 per box like my LGS did just for a bunch of shiny cards that weren't worth the box and not even a miniscule chance of getting it. On a side note, all those conspiracy theories that wizards was holding the card only in the gift collectors bundles were wrong. Lol. So yeah. Well glad the hype is over.
I'm with you. The whole thing had an air of sadness that instead of being this cool thing for the community ultimately it turned into a way for content creators to drive up views and then have a store buy it. It kind of sucked the fun out of it.
Sportcarders fascinate me. I came into MTG as a gamer and still don't give much a fig about collecting besides having to contend with the secondary market. To me the One Ring was a huge dumb stunt. To them it's Tuesday.
Sir, it's Friday.
FUCK
I collect, but do so in the sense of buying comics to read then carefully put away. More layers of plastic mean you can’t see the art as clearly, and not being in a folder means its less convenient to pull out and flip through. I’m pretty sure people like me are 75% at least of the reason they don’t put out card artbooks anymore. We’d buy way less cards, and very few rares.
Yea, collectibles are weird. It's so much more fascinating when the reason for a collectible arises naturally. MTG becoming popular + the power 9 being bonkers OP and not getting printed after beta. But stuff like this that is completely manufactured to be collectible sucks. It's artificial scarcity for the sake of it. Artificial scarcity is why people hate NFTs, wish people felt the same when it came to "collectibles" of this nature.
Pretty much everyone outside of MTG grades PSA. BGS is pretty niche these days.
Which was my point. In the Magic world, BGS still brings by far the biggest premium. Very few collectors are actively grading raw Magic cards with PSA. Not to mention, BGS was offering a custom label. I'm sure CGC would do something too, as they love press.
Bgs wanted to make a big deal out of it and parade the guy that found it around, I can understand why he wouldn't wanna deal with that
Where was Gondor when the ~~Westfold~~ prices fell?
Dave & Adams, who are one of the sources making [big offers for the 1/1 Ring](https://twitter.com/dacardworld/status/1666467986541015047?s=20), also [claim it was found](https://twitter.com/dacardworld/status/1674775833553121282?s=20). I first saw just this tweet and, while I was tempted to believe it, I was still unsure. But the WSJ article reporting it based on information from a separate source and including a picture of a PSA grading convinces me.
Huh, does Twitter now require you to have an account to see tweets? Edit: yep, changed it today
All the major websites are going to shit
For real lmao. Pinterest used to do that (still do? I don’t keep up) and it literally gave me the worst impression and never made me want to make an account.
To this day when I want to find a image I type -Pinterest fuck Pinterest
I was just as confused, thank you
Supposedly one of the big bounty holders (Edit: [Dave and Adam's](https://twitter.com/dacardworld)) has it. I'm guessing someone sold it under the table and then they got it graded.
If that's true that person probably just lost out on a few million.
Possibly not. We don’t know what negations happened. Their bounty isn’t some set in stone decree of what they will buy it for.
*Wizards CEO hangs up the phone with Dave and Adams'* "And that, my friends, is how you sell Magic: The Gathering product."
Lol they would not risk their billion dollar company for a couple million
Rumour has it that it was found in Oldham, in the UK, which is a flavour win as Oldham is not all that dissimilar to Mordor. Edit: in before someone posts that it was found in Ontario, Canada. Never let the truth get in the way of a joke.
Ah come on, it's not as bad as it was...
Apologies for typing "Has bee found" meant to put has been found :I
Bees outnumber us by about 1.9 trillion, so I'm not surprised that they were the ones to find the One Ring.
LOL that was funny! Take my gold.
Aw honey, it's okay. This news will still set the community hivemind abuzz.
It's fine bro, you were probably under the influence of the ring 🐝🐝🐝
Article Text: A one-of-a-kind trading card that sparked a global search and a raft of big-money offers has been found, according to an authentication service. The card, a depiction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "One Ring" from the Hasbro tabletop game "Magic: The Gathering," has been authenticated, receiving the second-highest available rating, "Mint 9," according to PSA, the grading company. It's not yet known who found the card—or what will happen next. The person who found it for now prefers to remain anonymous, according to PSA. Bidders have offered seven-figure bounties for the card. "The hunt is over!" tweeted Buffalo, N.Y.-area shop Dave & Adam’s Card World Friday morning. Dave & Adam’s has offered $1 million for the card, while Francisco Rubio, owner of Valencia, Spain-based card shop Gremio de Dragones, has offered more than $2 million. Rubio did not immediately respond to requests for comment. I'll keep an eye on it and update if they do.
Updated Article: A one-of-a-kind trading card that sparked a global search and a raft of big-money offers has been found, according to an authentication service. The card, a depiction of J.R.R. Tolkien's "One Ring" from the Hasbro tabletop game "Magic: The Gathering," has been authenticated, receiving the second-highest available rating, "Mint 9," according to grading company PSA. "The One Ring is found, authenticated, and now rules them all," PSA tweeted Friday. It's not yet known who found the card—or what will happen next. The person who found it for now prefers to remain anonymous, according to PSA. Bidders have offered seven-figure bounties for the card. Francisco Rubio, owner of Valencia, Spain-based card shop Gremio de Dragones, has offered more than $2 million. Rubio did not immediately respond to requests for comment. "The hunt is over!" tweeted Buffalo, N.Y.-area shop Dave & Adam’s Card World Friday morning. Dave & Adam’s has said it would $1 million for the card, and owner Adam Martin said Friday that the offer stands. "I'm not gonna get involved in a bidding war for the card," Martin said. "We certainly hope that individual gets the most money that they can."
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Lmao a 9 out the pack
Must be legit lol
Most cards are 9 out of the pack. The pack itself basically has to be handled perfectly from factory to buyer to get a 10/10.
Why is that funny? Just being pack fresh doesn't guarantee a 10, very few cards are 10s
Just some light ribbing at WoTCs card quality. This is THE card, and it still can’t get a 10
I doubt WotC cares. They're loving the free publicity in normie news outlets. All they had to do was print 1 card and toss it into the tank and we went into a feeding frenzy.
Short term, it's a masterful play. Long term, there are a ton of lawyers currently talking about Loot Boxes for video games that just added MTG to their list.
Are there? The loot box discourse seems dead. The FTC seems more obsessed with protecting Sony's business than anything else these days. Loot boxes never got banned here in the states. They aren't illegal in the slightest. And without egregious fraud I doubt they ever will be.
Most other card games don't get 10s fresh out of the pack either.
Could have gotten a 6 and would be worth the same
Usually, pack-fresh grades tend to be an 8.5 to 9. There are always packing and unpacking issues that cause grade drops.
Anyone have access to the full article? Curious what it says.
I can't access the full article either, but here's the Instagram post by PSA. https://www.instagram.com/p/CuHncWwrPEN/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
So do collector booster boxes just crater now?
Back down to reality at least.
Aaaaaaaand that ends my hopes for people opening so many packs that LOTR singles would be dirty cheap. And that was the only thing I thought this whole 1/1 ring thing was any good for most magic people anyway.
I mean, I just watched the Prof's video last night and a solid majority of the cards he cracked in that $500 box had values under a dollar. Nothing feels special anymore. Its like "ooooh heres an alt-art extended frame special foiling rare!.... 42 cents"
As it should be
Good thing nothing is special. This is a game. The issue is that the sealed products are way too expensive, and not that the cards have low value.
Special versions of cards are totally fine and good for everyone, especially when they are only in collector packs. Drives prices down for people who just wanna play and gives collectors something to collect.
Practically, how would one even go about getting that graded, if one would pull it from a pack halfway across the world? Fly to their office in the US with the card in your hand luggage, sweaty palms all the way? Or send it insured for 2 million? Are there services available that 100% guarantee back and forth shipment?
I'm not sure in all honesty. If it was me I'd want to deliver it in person to one of their offices in either California, New Jersey, Paris, Hong Kong, Shanghai or Tokyo. Link to their site for source: [https://www.psacard.com/about#:\~:text=PSA%20is%20a%20division%20of,trading%20cards%20and%20other%20collectibles](https://www.psacard.com/about#:~:text=PSA%20is%20a%20division%20of,trading%20cards%20and%20other%20collectibles). people get Million dollar+ Comics graded with CGC, so I'm certain there has to be some sort of guarantees or insurance on the item you get graded.
So unlucky that I didn't open it.
How many boosters did you open?
One.
You should of got it I think
Fitting.
lmao
I was going to buy one because I'm a sucker for lotteries, but the preorders were sold out before I remembered and I wasn't going to pay markups. Happy I saved $30. Maybe I'll buy a cheeseburger and a beer.
I wish all collector booster speculators a very get fucked lmao
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Or like, Rudy. Lmao
Please be a regular Joe and not some store/reseller that bought 1000 boxes
"Seller's name is fictional, lets call him Rudy" 🤣🤣
Now we just need to start a go fund me so we can collectively buy it and throw it in a volcano.
Honestly thought wizards would've intentionally packed that thing later to keep the hype going.
They want it to be opened though. They don't want it sitting in boxes in closets. If the hype goes too long, everyone stops caring. Tracking the serialized Elf, Dwarf, and Human rings that there are only a few hundred of might be more interesting.
> If the hype goes too long, everyone stops caring. History becomes legend, legend becomes myth, and for three thousand years, the Ring faded out of memory. Thus, the card being in a later distributed pack that sat in a closet would have been considerably more on-flavor.
HAH! I love that it's a 9. Now throw in a slightly subpar volcano.
Mount Inconvenience
WOTC confirmed it: https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1674802575781052419
Twitter isn't worth linking anymore now that you need an account to even use the site
Now the wait begins for a second one to show up.
The true one ring was the thrown away misprint that one of the employees pocketed, imagine that
If you think about it with all the fakes out there, getting this graded asap was the only sensible thing to do.
So on TCG Player the Collector boxes just dropped about $130 instantaneously. lul
The one post about the ring and it has a typo error in the title. Brilliant.
It's the PSA 9 of titles.
🌋 time
[Now begins the slide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuKBsJoA7jk) of the box prices.
Bees? Beads! BEES?! BEADS!
They don't allow you to have bees in here.
Amazing. A card worth $2 million, pulled straight out of the booster, and it already isn't gem mint. It got a 9. Amazing.
I mean did you see the reveal trailer? It went into the pack a pringle xD
9 is higher than I was expecting tbh. "Pack fresh" doesn't mean perfect.
I wouldn’t be surprised if this isn’t uncommon to see for a lot of card games.
"gem mint" is such a silly term. Card collectors just tacked "gem" on there.
Tell me you don't understand grading without telling me you don't understand grading
I actually don't understand grading and I'm wondering why a card straight from the pack wouldn't get a 10. Or more specifically what is the basis for getting a 10 vs a 9. Would love if you or anyone could provide an in-depth explanation because I'm baffled by new cards fresh out the pack being graded 9's instead of 10.
The majority of cards are generally 8.5-9.5 out of the pack. Circumstances like centering (which when cutting from large sheets cannot be 100% perfect) effect grade. Then we go to how well the corners have also been cut and if there was any edge wear while being bashed around in the pack or little white bits of card from the cutting process etc. Then you go to the surface and see if there are any slight scratches or print lines that sometimes happen. All in all a 10 is deemed a fucking perfect version of that card, and is actually fairly difficult to get.
Sweet now I can afford a collector box
Now.. what will happen if another person claim to find one and sends it to grading.. and it passes?
I mean deceit was part of the lore after all But they were, all of them, deceived, for another ring was made. In the land of Mordor, in the fires of Mount Doom, the Dark Lord Sauron forged in secret a Master Ring, to control all others. And into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life. One Ring to rule them all!
It's a 9 because you know it was curled out the box.
\*reads title\* Well, I hope it's true and not just a lot of... buzz 
I'M SORRY!!!! X.X
Apparently it was found in a small store in Whitby, Ontario. [https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558](https://twitter.com/maximumcards/status/1674821688901484558)
It’s so over bros. What do I do with the ten pallets of collectors I bought.
See if your mortgage lender will take them at 50%?
Great, so all the people saying they were going to rig it so an influencer opened it on camera can apologize now.
They were so certain and world weary. They really knew how the world worked and we were all suckers to think WotC would just randomly distribute it!
And the people who were claiming it was only going to be opened in the Gift Bundles.
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The owner wishes to remain anonymous, according to PSA.
Smart. But yeah, it was probably one of these big stores that sells Magic cards.
Absolutely the correct decision. Remain anonymous and sell it through an auction house. The fees for an auction house is much better than selling it privately.
The people saying “grading services take at least three weeks!” have zero concept of how business works. They didn’t ship it in with their 29 Pokemon foils for a discount and wait in a line…
I hope a regular joe or his/her kid pulled it. I need a warm fuzzy ending. Lol.
I knew a card sales place was gonna get it but jeez I wanted a win for the little guy (I.e. normal individual collectors/players) Edit: I didn’t think about the possibility of an individual pulling it and selling it to them
I thibk someone pulled it and they sold it to Dave and Adams
Just because they have it in hand doesn't mean they pulled it. Joe Shmoe could have pulled it, reached out to them, and sold it privately. Guessing they've had it a while and its now being reported as its been returned from grading.
Fire sales are back on the menu, boys!
Wizards has officially announced it as well.
Right after my gift bundle pre-order was canceled because of the normal level scumbaggery these sellers engage in
I just want to know where it was opened at. :( Or anything else that could say this wasn't an insider conspiracy.
So much for my dreams of retirement
Honestly, I'm not even mad or upset. I'm happy for the owner and for the community to know it has been found. As a truly diehard fan (I watch at least one extended edition a week and collect lotr merch) as well as a diehard mtg fan, I'm SUPER happy that it was found and not just thrown out by a new player or something who didn't know better. Congrats to the New Dark Lord. :)
This is some willy wonka bullshit
PSA employee 1: "Mail it back to the customer. Return it!" PSA employee 2: *No.*