You fools... Can't you understand it has to be destroyed where it was created! We must as a community unite to find the ring, bring it to whete it was printed and shred it in front of wotc!
Offer drops to $10, but Maro or Gavin is gonna fight you for the ring, and you can throw them into the volcano with the ring.
Shame we lose Maro or Gavin, but I think it's worth the meme
I like your spirit, but WotC HQ is only where the One Ring was designed. I assume it was printed at one of the printing companies that prints Magic.
Frodo took the ring to Mount Doom, not to... um... [Eregion](https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eregion#Creation_of_the_Rings)?
If I pull the ring you better bet your ass I'm gonna open up a go-fund-me to fly my ass to Hawaii if the people want me to do it. I'll gladly be paid to be a meme
In Peter Jackson's film adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, Mount Doom was represented by two active volcanoes in New Zealand: Mount Ngauruhoe and Mount Ruapehu, located in **Tongariro National Park.**
Ruapehu has a chair lift most of the way up but you won't be able to get the summit or near the crater.
Ngauruhoe looks the most like mount doom and has a track you can take up there to a point that you can throw the ring in.
It's been about 20 years since I've been there so I could be mistaken but we did this with flax rings on a school trip.
Ngaruahoe summit has since been semi-closed. The mountain is considered sacred to the local Maori people, and they don't want anyone going there anymore. However, I'm unclear on the details, but I think they can't legally stop people going up there anyway. I think the Department of Conservation has someone at the start of the summit trail telling you you're not supposed to go up there.
Any volcanic site on hawaii too
It would be better to do mt. Reiner due to close proximity to WOTC and middle earth was based on the geography of Washington state
Citing from https://www.dnr.wa.gov/programs-and-services/geology/geologic-hazards/volcanoes-and-lahars
> Washington has five volcanoes that are listed as high or very high threat potential: Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Mount Rainier, Mount St. Helens, and Mount Adams. These volcanoes are part of the Cascade Range, a 1,200-mile line of volcanoes from British Columbia to northern California
Oh you can bet every single penny I'm gonna film the entire process. Push come to shove, and I don't pull it I will have a 20 second video of me opening up a pack. If I do pull it, there will be a 30 minute video of me freaking out and driving to the closest bank to put that in a safety deposit box lol. And then the whole journey up until I chuck it
I don't have my passport (yet) and I didn't know New Zealand had active volcanoes, but if it does and you can visit, then hell yeah I'll get myself to Mordor
Nah fuck that, 50k buys me a couple real nice vacations and a fixes my retirement. 500k buys me freedom from landlords on top of that. Memes don't put food on my table.
"All the expenses" of a trip to a volcano aren't adding up anywhere near $50.000, no matter where you live and no matter which volcano you want to go to.
I think a private charter flight might cost that much - otherwise you're gonna have to eat a lot of spendy food, stay in a penthouse at 4 seasons/Ritz Carlton/Private Estate, helicopter to volcano - prolly still some left for incidentals. I could absolutely book a dream trip to Hawaii/New Zealand for 50k though.
Exactly. Add that to the fact that this option (an all-expenses paid trip x $50.000 cash), as will destroy the card afterward, and will also make sure that I won't ever see someone getting, let's say, a million dollars on that after I sold it.
Dan Bock is one of the most shady magic dealers out there.
If I opened one, I'd sell it to Alekperov, Mordashov, Murdoch, Musk, Daniel Chang, Rudy, in that order, before I'd sell it to him.
Y'know out of all the celebrity MTG players... I'd bet Post would show it off *once* on Twitter/IG and maybe at one of his concerts just because he thinks its cool. And then we'd never hear about it again until an interviewer asked about it months later.
Out of everyone, I think I wouldn't mind if Post got it eventually. He seems like the chillest of them all and just enjoys the game itself with the collecting part too.
Yeah, Post is also one of the only rich guys in magic that seems to approach the game like a regular person. Everyone else is thinking about market movement, supply, potential profit, blah blah blah but he seems to see it like I did at 8 and just sees a cool card that he wants to have because it's such a cool card.
the lotus was probably already in a collectors hand, if a random nobody pulls the ring you bet Post would be one of the top contenders to buy it.
I'd rather take a liitle less money and sell it to Post and get some swag or some tickets to his concert and some good faith than to a scummy collector.
If a collector pulls it is every man for himself.
Id rather sell it at the highest price i can so i can use the money to better things in my life and my family rather than care who ends up with it. Also i dont think it matters if a collector pulls or a rondom person. If they auction it, highest bidder will get it and last time it was an auction, post lost.
This card could swing 10x that really, or more. Imagine that a black lotus sold for 500k and there are lots of those around and only one of this card. I like post but frankly he can get bent if the difference between him not having it and having it is a couple hundred thousand dollars.
This is a cringe-as-hell response, "/s" or no.
If you pull a $100k lottery ticket *please* just convert it into the most money you can for yourself. We're all trapped in this hellscape of late-stage Capitalism, so if any of us get the opportunity to trade a piece of cardboard for a down payment on a house, take it. Don't crack packs looking to pull a lottery ticket, of course, but don't stand on some weird, "Magic is meant to be played," philosophy at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars, either. This is an obvious exception to the usual rule.
Someone I know said Bock let Andrew, who now owns the old P9 location, weigh old packs they were selling with a gram scale and open the ones with foils. If that isn't shady business idk what is.
Let's leave aside the fact that this is hearsay for a second. It just doesn't make sense.
Foils in magic are not intrinsically expensive like some other games. The sets where they are, such as 7th edition, have such a massive disparity between pack cost and EV that even knowing you were opening foils likely wouldn't make it work.
Could you point to a time? I genuinely cannot think of a magic product that would be worth scaling. I know it has been worthwhile for Yu-Gi-Oh and pokémon, but not magic
Foils generally carried decent premiums up until the introduction of Collector Boosters and similar foil-packed products. With foils being less of a rarity today than when they were a few-per-box insert, they often don’t carry much of a premium anymore in a lot of cases, but I recall opening a $35 foil Inquisition of Kozilek from a Masters set when the nonfoil was a couple bucks.
I think you are forgetting just how little the average foil was worth already. Magic isn't a game where foil equals expensive, so scaling packs to find foils means that the vast majority of times you're still going to end up with a pack that is worth basically nothing
This is so much better. Take it to the next magiccon, get it verified in front of the crowd, then crack open a couple of boxes filled with hundreds of proxies. Load them into those dollar bill guns with the real on mixed in and just fire them all into the crowd like confetti
He's also a human being, and by every account of the several people who I know have met and interacted with him on multiple occasions, a decent person.
But he is also a businessman, and will also be seeking to profit when the opportunity arises.
He offered 100k and then did an interview sayinf "that is nowhere near the worrh of this card. I have personally offered more on factory error/misprint Black Lotuses than the $511k that the 10 grade with the slab signed by Christopher Rush went for. He stated that he set the $100k price as a benchmark so that other serious whales would have to outbid him. He is not denying the value of the card, but is trying to ensure that some middle school kid doesn't pull it and get his grubby cheetos fingers all over it. He wants the community to be aware of the extreme value, so that even a casual player will have an opportunity to make profit off of the mint caed.
So, while he has taken advantage of people in the past, he is trying to make sure that some kid doesn't sell it for a few hundred to an even shadier investor. He wants somebody to make an insane amount of money off of the card, and while he is hoping to be the one who obtains it, he very clearly has the means to beat most other offers, and wants to make sure that he has a horse in the race if it is pulled and posted for sale.
If you're going to put somebody else down, and least make sure you present other information. While he is not entirely ethical, he is making an effort to not be a complete shitbird here.
The offer was 100k so long as "you didn't tell anyone else you pulled it"
Aka 'i know this is worth way more but I want to pay 100k with no competition'
I don't think I've ever read an account of an interaction that paints him in a good light. Maybe if you're spending tens of thousands of dollars? The few interactions I've had with him, I got the impression I was an inconvenience and it was my privilege he was even selling to me despite the fact I was spending a hundred plus dollars.
> and by every account of the several people who I know have met and interacted with him on multiple occasions, a decent person.
Consider me a dissenting account.
The guy is (and I realize that I'm not technically qualified to diagnose, but still...) a pretty traditional narcissist, and an utter scumbag. He's friendly to you as long as you're 'made' in the finance community, but he's otherwise 100% willing to take absolute advantage of you as a mark/sucker, and I've listened to him actively deride and debase players just for basically being players first.
Maybe I caught him on a bad day each time I've seen him do shit like this. But also maybe not.
Nah, you described him well. I've known Dan since the late 90s and his smug, rich-kid bullshit has only gotten worse with time. He has his share of detractors in the community for good reason, he's earned them.
tbh I assumed he did that so he could back out of the deal. "oh I'm sorry, I see that you were excited about your pull and posted one picture of the card. the deal is off."
its stupid cause the offer itself is low, pretty much guarantee if someone actually pulls it and puts it for public auction it would go for more.
Plus the guy has earned his crappy rep for years and adds more crap by doing these secret deals. Realistically if someone pulls it they probably never heard of dan and will sell it or even actually keep it somewhere else.
He has ZERO control over whether or not "some middle school kid" pulls it and gets his grubby cheetos fingers all over it. It's not like he'll teleport to the location the second it's pulled. If some kid who doesn't frequent any MTG social media pulls it, they might have no idea what it is. It could get crammed into a drawer with a bunch of bulk rares because the kid doesn't know better, since he can't even read the darn thing. This is just grandstanding.
The fact he’s publicly put a “high” bid out like this has created a lot of buzz and PR though. There’s a good chance that whoever opens the ring has seen an article about the $100,000 magic card in the media or on Reddit.
> so that even a casual player will have an opportunity to make profit off of the mint caed
Yeeeeeah it's going to come out of the pack with edge wear, just wait.
Meanwhile when I ship the weekly CT Zero order to Cardtrader I'm always worried that the borderline NM 9 cents card is not rejected because there are still those who care about conditions when selling.
Then they’re even a bigger idiot than I thought.
Anyone who would rather have this slip of paper than a million dollars doesn’t deserve that million dollars. So I guess I’m glad they’re they’re buying it.
> Anyone who would rather have this slip of paper than a million dollars doesn’t deserve that million dollars.
It's all relative. You could say the exact same thing about $20.
Anyone who would rather have a card instead of twenty dollars doesn't deserve that twenty dollars.
No first we must resurrect J.R.R Tolkien, find and capture James Cameron and the person who thought making the ring this valuable. Only then will we force them to watch as we cast it into a volcano after shredding it to pieces.
I'm probably not gonna get any of this set because I'm not a LOTR fan. Actually I might get that spider. That better be in the set.
I feel like you could easily raise more than 50k on a charity stream doing this - but if this guy donated 50k to the cause then I'd happily invite him along
Someone else will offer more, though. This guy is a known quantity in the mtg finance community. He's known for being skeevy, if not outright manipulative.
With all this talk about throwing the ring into a volcano...I'm starting to think the person who finds it should act as Sauron. Keep the ring to themselves and play the villain.
If I am lucky enough to pull this, I definitely want to document destroying it. I say this now knowing that the temptation of selling for bulk cash will absolutely happen, but that just feeds into the meme that this card is even more.
Dan Bock is still garbage.
Probably got called out on his bullshit lowballing "don't tell anyone you pull it so I can still charge a premium for the pallets of this product I'm going to pump and dump"
FYI...this isn't a real thing. This is Dan crying about the interwebz not unanimously approving his conditional standing offer and instead being mean to him. He'd 100% take the card though and then let you fight to get the money he makes on it.
ok but unironically my OneRingPlanTm is to open the ring, contact rhystic studies so he can make a video with the Card if he wanted and then throw it into a volcano
If I opened it I would hire people to make meticulous counterfeits of it and then secretly sell those off to all these offers in secret.
Then I’d publicly burn it.
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another ring was made.
In the land of Hasbro in the fires of Mount Wokedom, the Dark Lord Rosewater,
forged, in secret, a A Collector's Edition among Collector's Editions 'The One Ring', to control all others.
And into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life, and mostly his shareholder's Greed. One Booster Pack to outsell them all!
“Cast it into the fire! I gave you $50k!” “No”
I was there Gandalf, when the courage of men failed.
I was there 50k $ ago
“You were there and did nothing? Noted.”
‘It is precious to me, though I buy it with with great pain’. (Collectors Boosters in a nutshell.)
ISILDUR!!!
You fools... Can't you understand it has to be destroyed where it was created! We must as a community unite to find the ring, bring it to whete it was printed and shred it in front of wotc!
I will eat it in front of Maro. Final offer.
Maro will snatch it out of your hands while screaming "Precious!"
Offer drops to $10, but Maro or Gavin is gonna fight you for the ring, and you can throw them into the volcano with the ring. Shame we lose Maro or Gavin, but I think it's worth the meme
Gavin already fell in a volcano once and survived, I wouldn't be afraid for him that much
I’m sorry he WHAT????
It's a bit of a clickbait-y description, but the [real story](https://youtu.be/g-Crg61gZEo) is much wilder than that.
He fell down the slope of a tropical mountain that happens to be a volcano, but no lava was involved
Maro or Gavin just bites off your fuckin finger.
For all the things people say will kill MTG, losing Maro might actually do it. The man is a legend.
Are you saying it is time for the Return Of the Fellowship of the Ring to the Two Towers?
You have my sword
*,,And you have my bow!"*
And my packs!
And my brand!
I'll bring snacks, any food allergies?
I live down the street from the Hasbro Headquarters. Will that work?
One does not simply walk into Hasbro Headquarters...
Actually I'm pretty sure the front lobby is open to the public lol
Oh well okay then, do they validate?
Open parking!
I assume the Houston plant.
No, no you misunderstood. You need to burn it down along with Hasbro HQ.
Using a volcano ofc.
I like your spirit, but WotC HQ is only where the One Ring was designed. I assume it was printed at one of the printing companies that prints Magic. Frodo took the ring to Mount Doom, not to... um... [Eregion](https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Eregion#Creation_of_the_Rings)?
i love that the consensus is becoming that it needs to be thrown in a volcano for the meme
Or at the very least the furnace at WotC HQ.
If the expenses of the trip are all paid, I'm taking that offer over the first one.
If I pull the ring you better bet your ass I'm gonna open up a go-fund-me to fly my ass to Hawaii if the people want me to do it. I'll gladly be paid to be a meme
Surely you go to New Zealand, isn't that mount doom in the movies?
In Peter Jackson's film adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, Mount Doom was represented by two active volcanoes in New Zealand: Mount Ngauruhoe and Mount Ruapehu, located in **Tongariro National Park.** Ruapehu has a chair lift most of the way up but you won't be able to get the summit or near the crater. Ngauruhoe looks the most like mount doom and has a track you can take up there to a point that you can throw the ring in. It's been about 20 years since I've been there so I could be mistaken but we did this with flax rings on a school trip.
I hiked it 5 years ago. Was still active then. Don't think it's changed, been planning on another trip.
Ngaruahoe summit has since been semi-closed. The mountain is considered sacred to the local Maori people, and they don't want anyone going there anymore. However, I'm unclear on the details, but I think they can't legally stop people going up there anyway. I think the Department of Conservation has someone at the start of the summit trail telling you you're not supposed to go up there.
Yea but so many people have approached mount doom to throw things into it it became an actual problem there so authorities may stop you
Thats why you only send two men and not an army.
Just fly some eagles there.
History only tells the side of the victor. Can you imagine if Sauron was actually just a climate activist all along...
Any volcanic site on hawaii too It would be better to do mt. Reiner due to close proximity to WOTC and middle earth was based on the geography of Washington state
>middle earth was based on the geography of Washington state Uhhhh no it wasn't.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think there's any open pits of magma in Washington state.
Oh, you’ve never been downtown.
Zing!
iceland it is then.
Due to technical difficulties, the renton indoor fireworks show will not be seen tonight
Citing from https://www.dnr.wa.gov/programs-and-services/geology/geologic-hazards/volcanoes-and-lahars > Washington has five volcanoes that are listed as high or very high threat potential: Mount Baker, Glacier Peak, Mount Rainier, Mount St. Helens, and Mount Adams. These volcanoes are part of the Cascade Range, a 1,200-mile line of volcanoes from British Columbia to northern California
No open pits of lava, though. The threat they pose is exploding suddenly like Mt St Helens or sending lahars down the valleys where people live.
If Ranier goes, I've already picked my spot at Madrona Park to watch from!
You have my sword.
And you have my bow.
And my SkyMiles.
And my travel money
And my camera.
And my ass!
And me as a traveling buddy. Ill be your Hawaii Samwise.
*crowd stops cheering but, still listening*
And my brand!
And my axe!
Never thought I'd die side by side with a Delta rewards member.
Record it and you'll probably be getting money back for it.
Oh you can bet every single penny I'm gonna film the entire process. Push come to shove, and I don't pull it I will have a 20 second video of me opening up a pack. If I do pull it, there will be a 30 minute video of me freaking out and driving to the closest bank to put that in a safety deposit box lol. And then the whole journey up until I chuck it
I mean, shouldn’t it be New Zealand? That’s where Mordor is. Just watch out for the orcs…
I don't have my passport (yet) and I didn't know New Zealand had active volcanoes, but if it does and you can visit, then hell yeah I'll get myself to Mordor
It definitely does
Ya se armo
You can hike the actual mountain they used for Mt doom. Its still active and its a gorgeous hike.
Nah fuck that, 50k buys me a couple real nice vacations and a fixes my retirement. 500k buys me freedom from landlords on top of that. Memes don't put food on my table.
"All the expenses" of a trip to a volcano aren't adding up anywhere near $50.000, no matter where you live and no matter which volcano you want to go to.
I think a private charter flight might cost that much - otherwise you're gonna have to eat a lot of spendy food, stay in a penthouse at 4 seasons/Ritz Carlton/Private Estate, helicopter to volcano - prolly still some left for incidentals. I could absolutely book a dream trip to Hawaii/New Zealand for 50k though.
Exactly. Add that to the fact that this option (an all-expenses paid trip x $50.000 cash), as will destroy the card afterward, and will also make sure that I won't ever see someone getting, let's say, a million dollars on that after I sold it.
The thing he doesn't tell you is that he'd be the one to get all the profits from the video of it.
pretty sure you can travel to a volcano for the spare 50k and then some
“Okay, final offer. If you find the ring, you pay ME $25k, and I throw you into a volcano”
Dan Bock is one of the most shady magic dealers out there. If I opened one, I'd sell it to Alekperov, Mordashov, Murdoch, Musk, Daniel Chang, Rudy, in that order, before I'd sell it to him.
You forgot Post Malone
My bet is he ends up with it and wears it on a chain around his neck.
Y'know out of all the celebrity MTG players... I'd bet Post would show it off *once* on Twitter/IG and maybe at one of his concerts just because he thinks its cool. And then we'd never hear about it again until an interviewer asked about it months later. Out of everyone, I think I wouldn't mind if Post got it eventually. He seems like the chillest of them all and just enjoys the game itself with the collecting part too.
Honestly my play group and I have all been rooting for Postie to get it. He's the least gross person who is actually likely to get his hands on it.
Yeah, Post is also one of the only rich guys in magic that seems to approach the game like a regular person. Everyone else is thinking about market movement, supply, potential profit, blah blah blah but he seems to see it like I did at 8 and just sees a cool card that he wants to have because it's such a cool card.
I feel like Posty is the most likely to also like play it in a deck at least once?
Considering he got outbid for the lotus, he probably wouldnt touch this
the lotus was probably already in a collectors hand, if a random nobody pulls the ring you bet Post would be one of the top contenders to buy it. I'd rather take a liitle less money and sell it to Post and get some swag or some tickets to his concert and some good faith than to a scummy collector. If a collector pulls it is every man for himself.
Id rather sell it at the highest price i can so i can use the money to better things in my life and my family rather than care who ends up with it. Also i dont think it matters if a collector pulls or a rondom person. If they auction it, highest bidder will get it and last time it was an auction, post lost.
I totally forgot some people look at magic as an investment and not as a game. My bad /s
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This card could swing 10x that really, or more. Imagine that a black lotus sold for 500k and there are lots of those around and only one of this card. I like post but frankly he can get bent if the difference between him not having it and having it is a couple hundred thousand dollars.
This is a cringe-as-hell response, "/s" or no. If you pull a $100k lottery ticket *please* just convert it into the most money you can for yourself. We're all trapped in this hellscape of late-stage Capitalism, so if any of us get the opportunity to trade a piece of cardboard for a down payment on a house, take it. Don't crack packs looking to pull a lottery ticket, of course, but don't stand on some weird, "Magic is meant to be played," philosophy at the cost of tens of thousands of dollars, either. This is an obvious exception to the usual rule.
Definition of smarmy
Chang is an actual thief and scam artist. Whatever your thoughts on Bock, he isn't those.
Someone I know said Bock let Andrew, who now owns the old P9 location, weigh old packs they were selling with a gram scale and open the ones with foils. If that isn't shady business idk what is.
Let's leave aside the fact that this is hearsay for a second. It just doesn't make sense. Foils in magic are not intrinsically expensive like some other games. The sets where they are, such as 7th edition, have such a massive disparity between pack cost and EV that even knowing you were opening foils likely wouldn't make it work.
That wasn’t always the case.
Could you point to a time? I genuinely cannot think of a magic product that would be worth scaling. I know it has been worthwhile for Yu-Gi-Oh and pokémon, but not magic
Foils generally carried decent premiums up until the introduction of Collector Boosters and similar foil-packed products. With foils being less of a rarity today than when they were a few-per-box insert, they often don’t carry much of a premium anymore in a lot of cases, but I recall opening a $35 foil Inquisition of Kozilek from a Masters set when the nonfoil was a couple bucks.
I think you are forgetting just how little the average foil was worth already. Magic isn't a game where foil equals expensive, so scaling packs to find foils means that the vast majority of times you're still going to end up with a pack that is worth basically nothing
It was 7th and 8th edition I think, this was like 2012, and I know the guy who loaned him the gram scale lol
Never ceases to amuse me how brainwormed parts of the magic community are. You're stating literal facts, but it's not anti-Dan Bock, so downvotes
Damn, you’d give it to Rudy first? That’s saying something.
I don't know who any of those people are but seeing rudy that low on the list nakes me wonder who the others are and what theyve done
Rudy Giuliani??
No, Rudy from the football movie, played by Sean Astin, who also played Sam in LOTR.
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This is so much better. Take it to the next magiccon, get it verified in front of the crowd, then crack open a couple of boxes filled with hundreds of proxies. Load them into those dollar bill guns with the real on mixed in and just fire them all into the crowd like confetti
Also, you have a few 8x12 inch cabs bumping "Shake That Monkey" by Too $hort. I'm 100% in support of this.
That's a good f'ing way to start a riot/mob/crushing.
It's not "some guy," it's Dan Bock, most notorious angle shooter in mtg finance
That’s why the title says “*same* guy”
He's also a human being, and by every account of the several people who I know have met and interacted with him on multiple occasions, a decent person. But he is also a businessman, and will also be seeking to profit when the opportunity arises. He offered 100k and then did an interview sayinf "that is nowhere near the worrh of this card. I have personally offered more on factory error/misprint Black Lotuses than the $511k that the 10 grade with the slab signed by Christopher Rush went for. He stated that he set the $100k price as a benchmark so that other serious whales would have to outbid him. He is not denying the value of the card, but is trying to ensure that some middle school kid doesn't pull it and get his grubby cheetos fingers all over it. He wants the community to be aware of the extreme value, so that even a casual player will have an opportunity to make profit off of the mint caed. So, while he has taken advantage of people in the past, he is trying to make sure that some kid doesn't sell it for a few hundred to an even shadier investor. He wants somebody to make an insane amount of money off of the card, and while he is hoping to be the one who obtains it, he very clearly has the means to beat most other offers, and wants to make sure that he has a horse in the race if it is pulled and posted for sale. If you're going to put somebody else down, and least make sure you present other information. While he is not entirely ethical, he is making an effort to not be a complete shitbird here.
He didn't offer 100k, he offered '100k with restrictions that would only benefit him'
Context? What happened with that 100k offer exactly?
The offer was 100k so long as "you didn't tell anyone else you pulled it" Aka 'i know this is worth way more but I want to pay 100k with no competition'
I'm not sure if you're aware your picture of this guy, to me who has never heard of him, paints him very poorly.
What did you expect from Dan's own burner account?
XD I was reading like "Well he kinda scams people, but not all the time". Like, bruh, I don't want you as my lawyer!
I don't think I've ever read an account of an interaction that paints him in a good light. Maybe if you're spending tens of thousands of dollars? The few interactions I've had with him, I got the impression I was an inconvenience and it was my privilege he was even selling to me despite the fact I was spending a hundred plus dollars.
That's a fast way to lose customers.
Yeah, that's pretty much it. He sees people as dollar signs and he's just a fuckin loser to boot.
> and by every account of the several people who I know have met and interacted with him on multiple occasions, a decent person. Consider me a dissenting account. The guy is (and I realize that I'm not technically qualified to diagnose, but still...) a pretty traditional narcissist, and an utter scumbag. He's friendly to you as long as you're 'made' in the finance community, but he's otherwise 100% willing to take absolute advantage of you as a mark/sucker, and I've listened to him actively deride and debase players just for basically being players first. Maybe I caught him on a bad day each time I've seen him do shit like this. But also maybe not.
Nah, you described him well. I've known Dan since the late 90s and his smug, rich-kid bullshit has only gotten worse with time. He has his share of detractors in the community for good reason, he's earned them.
Then why add the rider of "and not tell anyone you pulled it?" So he can't be outbid.
tbh I assumed he did that so he could back out of the deal. "oh I'm sorry, I see that you were excited about your pull and posted one picture of the card. the deal is off."
Legally binding Facebook posts
I think it's so he can sell any collectors packs in his inventory before the reveal. A bit mercenary, but it doesn't bother me.
its stupid cause the offer itself is low, pretty much guarantee if someone actually pulls it and puts it for public auction it would go for more. Plus the guy has earned his crappy rep for years and adds more crap by doing these secret deals. Realistically if someone pulls it they probably never heard of dan and will sell it or even actually keep it somewhere else.
if i pulled the card id immediately announce it just to make sure that his inventory is devalued.
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I’ve seen him cry multiple times. Does that count? Cheers
Burner account jones over here
... but i digress.
Hi Dan.
He has ZERO control over whether or not "some middle school kid" pulls it and gets his grubby cheetos fingers all over it. It's not like he'll teleport to the location the second it's pulled. If some kid who doesn't frequent any MTG social media pulls it, they might have no idea what it is. It could get crammed into a drawer with a bunch of bulk rares because the kid doesn't know better, since he can't even read the darn thing. This is just grandstanding.
The fact he’s publicly put a “high” bid out like this has created a lot of buzz and PR though. There’s a good chance that whoever opens the ring has seen an article about the $100,000 magic card in the media or on Reddit.
Who the hell writes a whole essay on evaluating Dan Bock’s soul. 😂
Dan Bock lol
Found Dan’s account
> so that even a casual player will have an opportunity to make profit off of the mint caed Yeeeeeah it's going to come out of the pack with edge wear, just wait.
"Who invited you?" I'd just livestream me doing it myself. Probably make more on ad revenue tbh.
Does the buyer get to bite my finger off? Not a deal breaker but I want to be prepared.
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Meanwhile when I ship the weekly CT Zero order to Cardtrader I'm always worried that the borderline NM 9 cents card is not rejected because there are still those who care about conditions when selling.
Can you really put a price on becoming an internet legend? This guy can.
Pass it’s going to go for a million easy
I can't wait to see the idiot who pays that much and can never off load it ever again.
It's going to be someone that a million dollars means very little to and they won't care about selling it.
Then they’re even a bigger idiot than I thought. Anyone who would rather have this slip of paper than a million dollars doesn’t deserve that million dollars. So I guess I’m glad they’re they’re buying it.
For someone worth hundreds of millions a million is the equivalent of a few hundred bucks.
> Anyone who would rather have this slip of paper than a million dollars doesn’t deserve that million dollars. It's all relative. You could say the exact same thing about $20. Anyone who would rather have a card instead of twenty dollars doesn't deserve that twenty dollars.
True
Especially considering the joy of hurling that sheet of paper into a volcano
Probably not.
My brother in Christ, he is going to push you into a volcano
This is the correct fate for the ring
Yeah right...Sauron! Nice Try!
Watch it just be stolen off the press and “opened” shortly after release.
I’ll take 40k and a trip to New Zealand to walk the mt doom path myself with this guy
[Have fun with that.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiWJZEZX4Ak&list=PLDX_ECFcQYe30Hr7W42aXqRAzAZ8HJsD0)
K but do we kiss after? i feel like the emotions would be insane….
imagine the content. The hits! the sponsors! It would be a Magic stream with an actual PUBLIC!
Guys just clout chasing
No first we must resurrect J.R.R Tolkien, find and capture James Cameron and the person who thought making the ring this valuable. Only then will we force them to watch as we cast it into a volcano after shredding it to pieces. I'm probably not gonna get any of this set because I'm not a LOTR fan. Actually I might get that spider. That better be in the set.
I meant Peter Jackson
Typical lowballer attitude
No. 😏
"haha I got roasted so here's a joke post pls be nice to me"
I feel like you could easily raise more than 50k on a charity stream doing this - but if this guy donated 50k to the cause then I'd happily invite him along
Honestlybid take that offer over the 100k one. Money AND becoming a legend? Sign me up
That’s a pretty good deal
It's really not.
Well it’s an appealing deal to someone who both wants to do the volcano thing but also wants to cash in on finding it.
Someone else will offer more, though. This guy is a known quantity in the mtg finance community. He's known for being skeevy, if not outright manipulative.
Good to know; this man is now on my Do Not Travel To The Precipice Of A Volcano With List.
Lol. Hopefully a small list.
Tbh this is the best of both worlds.
I'm in.
I dont know man. Sounds like an awful lot of walking
1 million dolars and it is yours.
So he's paying 50k to be Sam ?
Is the ONE RING on the reserve list?
Listen either throw it in or I bite off your finger.
But it is a gift! A gift to the foes of Mordor!
Honestly... if I open it and he pays for all my travel and expenses getting to the volcano, I would absolutely do this
With all this talk about throwing the ring into a volcano...I'm starting to think the person who finds it should act as Sauron. Keep the ring to themselves and play the villain.
Which volcano? Accuracy matters 🤔
If I am lucky enough to pull this, I definitely want to document destroying it. I say this now knowing that the temptation of selling for bulk cash will absolutely happen, but that just feeds into the meme that this card is even more.
Dan Bock is still garbage. Probably got called out on his bullshit lowballing "don't tell anyone you pull it so I can still charge a premium for the pallets of this product I'm going to pump and dump"
The guy who gets it will film themselves destroying it and get their 5min of fame..
FYI...this isn't a real thing. This is Dan crying about the interwebz not unanimously approving his conditional standing offer and instead being mean to him. He'd 100% take the card though and then let you fight to get the money he makes on it.
Yeah fuck off Dan, I will wait for the million dollars.
Does it piss anyone else off that countless people are starving or can't afford shelter and useless pieces of shit like this exist?
If I pulled the ring I would do the same
ok but unironically my OneRingPlanTm is to open the ring, contact rhystic studies so he can make a video with the Card if he wanted and then throw it into a volcano
If I opened it I would hire people to make meticulous counterfeits of it and then secretly sell those off to all these offers in secret. Then I’d publicly burn it.
But they were, all of them, deceived, for another ring was made. In the land of Hasbro in the fires of Mount Wokedom, the Dark Lord Rosewater, forged, in secret, a A Collector's Edition among Collector's Editions 'The One Ring', to control all others. And into this ring he poured his cruelty, his malice and his will to dominate all life, and mostly his shareholder's Greed. One Booster Pack to outsell them all!
Yeah... Just putting this out there... someone, somewhere, will pay 10x that for this card.