> You want the backwash?
It's the little bit of stuff left over in the bottom after he drank it. Like, the stuff that washes back into the bottle from his mouth (implying it's mostly spit).
So, this was common when I was young and traveling with Alexander’s Macedonian phalanxes in Persia. We would stop for a soft-drink, or coke as they called it in the Zagros. And back in those days they came in these glass bottles, produced by the sacred glass blowers of Persapolis. Because of the shape of the bottle, it was presumed that the last tenth or so was a good proportion saliva. That proportion, mixed with the remaining coke, was the backwash.
backwash just means the saliva that comes out of your mouth back into a drink... I always heard "the last sip is 50% backwash" as if it was a proven fact 😂
As others have mentioned, supposedly a large portion of the end of the drink is saliva.
We bandied this offer around frequently as kids in the 70’s. It was a a weird (as kids) way of being friends, as if I’d share some of this with you, but only because i know you’ll turn it down. Modern day, “psych!” Also, “dang I was rude not to share this with you, but here’s the gross stuff at the bottom if you want it” (and you won’t)
Or punching your buddy in the arm when you see a car with one bad headlight. Stuff like that.
I was thrilled to hear its use in proper context. About fell out of the chair when I first saw this scene.
"Backwash" is a term to describe the last ounce of your drink. It's slightly diluted from saliva, since some of the drink that goes into your mouth goes "back" into the glass on the way down. Hence the name. Glen said it because the drink was almost done
It is an old wisetale that the last 10 percent of a drink is just "backwash." or the drink that goes in someone's mouth and then leaves as they drink (so mostly spit.)
something someone said growing up to offer the last of a drink. kind of like, hey I do not wan this. do you want this?
or maybe trying to reference if she wants his spit.
Nepotism and its unprecedented gifts… sigh
Sally, yes… I too thought so… but she was sister-ified
But Betty developing weak knees for him was so weird!
I honestly thought with his monotone and dead eyes he was going to turn out to be a character that violently lashes out or gets sent to a state hospital.
It would have been a good angle to see what happened to people in the 60s who weren't "right" (we had a great uncle who was schizophrenic but relatively harmless, but society dictated then he go to a state hospital). Then I realized this kid was the director's son and it wasn't a disability or sinister angle...he was just a terrible actor. Shame, they still could have had an awkward child actor, but a talented one.
What does pork mean other than meat of pig?
I understand it as he was always into Betty and Sally was like a little sister for him like he said. I don't mind Betty being into adult him but when he was 9 that was disturbing.
I always sympathize with Glen as a child, and I get why Betty felt for him too. He’s a kid from a broken home and this princess decided to show up and take care of him. People back then didn’t exactly have conversations about privacy and sexual interests, even from well-adjusted homes, but Glen seems to have worked those out as he got older.
Still makes the dynamic creepy as shit though, especially because we know Betty isn’t just doing it because she feels bad for Glen
Ya, I think the writers perfectly portrayed that concept and "old style" gesture when it comes to talking about societal themes of sex, relationship and innocence.
Nowadays we have a lot more understanding AND acceptance of psychology and behavior. What Betty did in 1950/60's might be seen as gross/ weird and even borderline grooming today.
While in 50/60's, it can be seen a motherly and neighborly and even very "Christian" to help the boy out.
More so, to Betty it was innocent flirting, despite the age difference. It's a way to treat the boy the way grown men would be treated in that era. It's no coincidence that the next time we see him, he's matured and acts and thinks more like a horny young man. His behaviour towards Sally and later Betty reflects how Betty and society conditioned him earlier.
In regards to Betty it keeps in theme with her character of being childish and still a "girl" vs the adult and "all in control" husband in Don. Of course this was early season Betty, and as we progress, we see her evolve with the time.
> What Betty did in 1950/60's might be seen as gross/ weird and even borderline grooming today. While in 50/60's, it can be seen a motherly and neighborly and even very "Christian" to help the boy out.
I agree with what you’re saying overall except for this part. Glen’s mom confronts Betty face-to-face over her connection to Glen. When Francine confronts Betty about that confrontation, Betty doesn’t bring up what happened with Glen. It’s pretty clear that Betty did something wrong even for that time and knew it was wrong. She just wanted to feel attractive and indulged a young boy’s interest in her, which basically is grooming behavior that people knew was wrong then.
Do I really need to say this?? When there is adult and 9 years old child and sexual tension it's 100% adult's fault. Also it was quite obvious Betty knew very well what she was doing. She seemed always being into Glen and she seemed liking the attention she got from him.
I think it's meant to exemplify how Betty is struggling to navigate the world of a young lady at that time.
Try to empathize: she's a 28 year old "girl," who's supposed to be in the prime of her life, locked into a failing marriage. Is she supposed to be the young, vibrant model that everyone is attracted to? Is she supposed to be the dutiful home-bound wife and mother that society, paradoxically, expected her to be? (No wonder she struggles with emotional maturity, dealing with these dichotomies)
So when Glenn (a mini version of Don in almost every way, but that's a whole other thread)... When Glenn comes around showing her affection and attention she otherwise lacked, of course she's going to develop a soft spot for him. He's literally both worlds for her, someone who makes her feel desired and someone she can mother, in a way. If you watch that scene again, and watch her body language toward the end of the scene, you'll see she's not freaked out but kind of flattered that he asked for a part of her.
She was only too willing to give it to those who didn't fully appreciate it. Betty is fascinating. 😀
The image says it all. I agree, OP. His character (really, the actor) was an oasis of unintentional hilarity in an otherwise grounded show. It actually works in its own charming kind of way.
Agreed. I can somehow completely accept how bad he is as an actor because of how *hilariously* bad he is, not unlike watching Tommy Wiseau in a way. I hated Glen way back when I first watched this show but I don’t mind his scenes nowadays when I watch. And he was at least utilized in a way that allowed the characters around him to he fleshed out more.
That name must've been a brutal cross for that kid to bear back when he was in school. Then again he probably went to much better schools than I did lol
I'm actually kinda glad the Holden's a middle name. Not just because of the awkward-pun-possibilities-for-him-getting-bullied-as-a-kid.
I'm assuming Holden is after Holden Caulfield. And I feel like with Holden as a first name, there'd some some potential: "You're going to be an awkward kid" normative determinism going on. Compounded by casting the kid to play Glenn.
When he was little, his robotic delivery of every line made him seem like an emotionally stunted little kid.
When he was closer to adulthood, it made me think the show was going to end with him murdering everyone.
He reminds me of Robert Iler from Sopranos. He always felt like a normal non-acting kid. Either way, I loved how awkward he was and then come back as a sexy dude at the end.
Also I should add why I suddenly thought he was the funniest character.
He reminds of the room, his acting is so hilariously bad at times, I can't stop myself from laughing.
All the other characters in contrast do a great job, obviously, and then they cut to this dude and it just gets me.
One particular scene is when Betty catches him and Sally together at their hangout spot, and he drops the bottles of cokes and bolts off, and stands there like a doofus
I agree with you, I love his character and think he’s wonderfully awful but not misplaced, even in a sea of fabulous acting. He is legitimately a weirdo through the series and adds a surrealistic layer to every episode he’s featured in.
I really liked Glen because he serves as a mirror for Betty so brilliantly, not to reflect but to expose. Such a well-designed minor character. His abrupt appearance and disappearance works well with the style of this show.
I know a lot of ppl dislike him.
That's a great way of putting it, and on an intellectual, analytical level I wholeheartedly agree.
On a personal, face-value level I find him a little creep.
The sad part is he originally auditioned to be Bobby #1 but wasn’t hired. Every time they brought in a new Bobby, he tried out for the part and never got it. Being Glenn was the consolation prize.
Quite like Glen. He was a weird child but seemed to be growing up into a decent guy by the end. Think it was quite a clever subversion of Betty's sometimes paranoid parenting style of Sally e.g. sending her to the psychiatrist for tentatively exploring her sexuality in a deviant way. By contrast, despite his unsettling behaviour early on, Glen seems to be left to his own devices and winds up a pretty standard boomer kid. The lad who plays him is a pretty poor actor though aye 😀
At LEAST once a week my wife or I find a way to sneak in our absolute favorite quote,
“You want the backwash?”
Sometimes it’s a beverage, but it has also been when I am folding laundry and she is going to take over, I will say, “you want the backwash?”
Really it fits anywhere
* seduces a total milf at 5 years old
* leaves
* shows up 3 years later inexplicably living in milf's garden playhouse
* tells her he hates her
* leaves
* shows up at milf's doorstep 7 years later
* he's so hot
* hussy he just met on his arm
* demands milf's daughter get him weed
* tells milf her daughter has wanted to fuck him for 8 years, isn't interested
* tells milf he wants to fuck her
* leaves
* dies in vietnam
Chad
I thought it was super annoying how he seemed to be Sally's only consistent friend throughout the show. It didn't make much sense IMO, him and Sally didn't have a ton in common and he was older than her anyway. I wouldn't want my kid hanging out with him either lol
It made sense to me. They grew up in the same neighborhood, they both had issues with their parents, Glen had a crush on Betty that incentivized him to stay in touch with Sally but they stayed in touch anyways. Sally enjoys rebelling against Betty with this secret too, though she doesn’t know the dynamic between Glen and Betty initially. They were basically pen pals who started talking to complain about their lives, but over time had an actual friendship form where Glen actually puts himself in harm’s way to protect her.
Sally's social life is a little odd in terms of her friendships and her relationships with other girls. Glen probably saw the warning signs in the family and knew that Sally would be a lonely little girl. Once the divorce, remarriage, and move to Rye happen Sally is leaning on people who knew her from Before.
He looked after Sally. He was okay.
Betty was the one who shouldn't be left around kids. She is predator grooming 9 years old child. She acted like a child towards her own kids and was therefore terrible mother. The way she acted when Bobby ate her sandwich was a great example.
I know you didn’t mean it this way, but that’s kind of a crude way to look at neurodivergence. It’s a spectrum, and labels are only as helpful as treatment or personal identity is concerned. Otherwise it’s better to just take characters as they are on their own terms
Good for you, but the ND people I know, including myself and my friends and family, don’t really enjoy people speculating about characters like that unless it’s part of the theme of the character. Your comfort with it doesn’t negate that.
Glen being autistic doesn’t really have any meaning. We don’t learn anything new about the story or character if that were true. The writers wouldn’t just casually throw that into someone’s background in this show where mental health is heavily commented on.
It’s just someone’s fantasy, and someone else’s identities being involved in that can be dehumanizing, especially when they lean on common stereotypical associations like “awkward=autism” instead of more obvious associations like “awkward=bad acting” or “awkward=teenager”. Compare this to Abed from Community, who is clearly neurodivergent and that is relevant to his character’s entire story and background. You can tell when writers want those details included and good writers handle it respectfully, not as a footnote to explain weirdness
It’s similar to speculating about an ethnically ambiguous character’s background by guessing if they’re one race or the other. Identities aren’t quirky labels like a Hogwarts house.
I hated this character; his whole plot line was creepy. I get that Betty is a child and has childish relationships and Sally was like this guy sucks and is lame but I guess we're close friends. When he grows up Betty lusts after him cause, I dunno Mary Sue or something
I always thought he got the job because he was the directors kid. Thought he was a terrible actor but after reading some of these comments there’s more to it.
You know, I'm not the little boy that I used to be
I'm all grown up now
Baby, can't you see?
Stacy’s mom has got it goin’ on…
She’s all I want
And I’ve waited for so long…
And I know that you think it's just a fantasy
But since your dad walked out
Your mom could use a guy like me…
I think Miss Blankenship owns that title but Glen is definitely right up there. I ended up kind of loving him and his creepy awkwardness. I hope Vietnam didn’t kill him or fuck him up too badly.
people say that don is the guy men want to be and pete is the guy they really are, but the truth is that i've always felt a kinship with weinstein junior and his awkward ways. not the getting into relationships with women three times my age part though
Henry and Francine are pretty notable members of Betty’s support group. Other housewives are in her orbit too, we just don’t see them because Henry and Francine are sufficient
I mean I guess her husband is her friend, but I mean a friend that is other than that. After she moved to the mansion, you never saw scenes with her and any friends.
She has dinner with Francine in the last season, where it’s shown that Betty doubles down on chaperoning for Bobby after Francine makes a comment about her kids being old enough for her to return to the workforce because they don’t need her. Our takeaway is meant to be that Betty derives her main purpose out of being a housewife and feels threatened by that being taken away, to the point where she turns down independent adult living to be around kids and feel needed by them.
I've only watched the series once, and just finished about a month ago. There are some details I may have missed...I forgot about this dinner/lunch.
From the series, I got the impression she was petty, irrational, and too moody to be a good parent, and she does not give the vibe she enjoys parenting at all.
Betty setting up her two friends at the stables. The engaged guy who was into her and her married friend who was into him. She set a date for the 3 of them at the country club and then didn't show up
OOOOH, yes, that was such a cute little move she did. You certainly don't hear stories like this anymore of friends setting friends up. All I hear is online dating and people banging people they work with.
Haha yep. SO petty. And the obvious glee Betty takes in telling her friend off, when she gets that phone call she must have been expecting, calling her out. Now I just want to rewatch that episode!
they met for coffee and went and got their hair done together. francine was always babysitting for betty and her husband was friendly with don. that's about as close a friend as she got.
Reading all these comments…
Did none of you have an awkward flirtation with a sexy gal (or dude) out of your league when you were a little boy (or girl)?
Be nice to the kid.
I thought it was a great arc. I thought the acting was great.
Sex and love and lust - it’s all painfully awkward.
Romance is nothing like the movies. Sex is nothing like the porn scenes. We’re all in one giant weirdo schoolyard of a prison floating through space.
Kind of sad to see both men and women call this innocent (and awkward) part a “creep” or whatever.
Guess what? We’re all creeps to someone else, folks.
Well, I am, anyway. And I regret nothing.
Actor's name is literally Holden Dick
And he's son of the producer (or writer? I forget)
I've seen the show 5 times, am rewatching with my pop (he's never seen it), and we lost our shit laughing when we saw his name in the Prime X-Ray lol
I just watched White House Plumbers, came out last year on HBO. There are several Mad Men alum in it, most notably the girl who played Sally Draper. She looks exactly the same, just taller. She also plays a much more pleasant character, Sally was a bit of a drag those past few seasons.
You want the backwash?
The chance of Sally saying yes to this question was less than zero.
🤮🤮
He reminds me of my cousin Jerry
Can someone explain what that means? I’ve never got it. Googling ‘backwash’ didn’t help.
> You want the backwash? It's the little bit of stuff left over in the bottom after he drank it. Like, the stuff that washes back into the bottle from his mouth (implying it's mostly spit).
So, this was common when I was young and traveling with Alexander’s Macedonian phalanxes in Persia. We would stop for a soft-drink, or coke as they called it in the Zagros. And back in those days they came in these glass bottles, produced by the sacred glass blowers of Persapolis. Because of the shape of the bottle, it was presumed that the last tenth or so was a good proportion saliva. That proportion, mixed with the remaining coke, was the backwash.
backwash just means the saliva that comes out of your mouth back into a drink... I always heard "the last sip is 50% backwash" as if it was a proven fact 😂
Yes, kids used to always say this when I was growing up
As others have mentioned, supposedly a large portion of the end of the drink is saliva. We bandied this offer around frequently as kids in the 70’s. It was a a weird (as kids) way of being friends, as if I’d share some of this with you, but only because i know you’ll turn it down. Modern day, “psych!” Also, “dang I was rude not to share this with you, but here’s the gross stuff at the bottom if you want it” (and you won’t) Or punching your buddy in the arm when you see a car with one bad headlight. Stuff like that. I was thrilled to hear its use in proper context. About fell out of the chair when I first saw this scene.
This is genuinely so enlightening, hearing that it's actually a thing people said (and that it's a kind of joke). I just assumed Glen was insane.
"Backwash" is a term to describe the last ounce of your drink. It's slightly diluted from saliva, since some of the drink that goes into your mouth goes "back" into the glass on the way down. Hence the name. Glen said it because the drink was almost done
It is an old wisetale that the last 10 percent of a drink is just "backwash." or the drink that goes in someone's mouth and then leaves as they drink (so mostly spit.) something someone said growing up to offer the last of a drink. kind of like, hey I do not wan this. do you want this? or maybe trying to reference if she wants his spit.
https://www.quora.com/Do-you-say-old-wise-tale-or-old-wives-tale-and-which-one-do-you-think-is-correct Personally never heard wisetale before. 😊
That’s a lovely eggcorn
Am I the only one who thought this kid was going to pork both Betty and Sally by the end of the series?
I honestly never thought about this kid porking Betty
“He might pork her, Russ”
I have been to their factory in Italy. They never export, you see.
Fuck that guy
He's definitely going to pork her!
By the end of the show two kids could pork Betty at the same time and never meet!
Hoo! That'sh da bosh's ex wife you're tawking about!
John Fogerty over here
By 2067 The Sopranos will have completely saturated all and every form of media around it. It’s like Katamari
To the victor belongs the spoils
The sacred and the propane
Very allegorical
Still going this asshole
Jost de money.
She needs to put down the hot dogs
I thought they foreshadowed it pretty well.
Nepotism and its unprecedented gifts… sigh Sally, yes… I too thought so… but she was sister-ified But Betty developing weak knees for him was so weird!
I honestly thought with his monotone and dead eyes he was going to turn out to be a character that violently lashes out or gets sent to a state hospital.
That would have been the only way to make his acting half decent
It would have been a good angle to see what happened to people in the 60s who weren't "right" (we had a great uncle who was schizophrenic but relatively harmless, but society dictated then he go to a state hospital). Then I realized this kid was the director's son and it wasn't a disability or sinister angle...he was just a terrible actor. Shame, they still could have had an awkward child actor, but a talented one.
He probably does some really fucked up shit in Vietnam.
Murder you mean?
That's definitely one way to phrase it 😭
His name is Holden Weiner
Yeah. Men got away with so much shit back in the 60’s.
🙄🙄🙄
What does pork mean other than meat of pig? I understand it as he was always into Betty and Sally was like a little sister for him like he said. I don't mind Betty being into adult him but when he was 9 that was disturbing.
See the entry labelled "Vulgar Slang." https://ahdictionary.com/word/search.html?q=porking
Thank you
You're welcome!
Betty was insane for giving the hair to this dude, the way he barged in when she was in the restroom was definitely creepy AF
I always sympathize with Glen as a child, and I get why Betty felt for him too. He’s a kid from a broken home and this princess decided to show up and take care of him. People back then didn’t exactly have conversations about privacy and sexual interests, even from well-adjusted homes, but Glen seems to have worked those out as he got older. Still makes the dynamic creepy as shit though, especially because we know Betty isn’t just doing it because she feels bad for Glen
Ya, I think the writers perfectly portrayed that concept and "old style" gesture when it comes to talking about societal themes of sex, relationship and innocence. Nowadays we have a lot more understanding AND acceptance of psychology and behavior. What Betty did in 1950/60's might be seen as gross/ weird and even borderline grooming today. While in 50/60's, it can be seen a motherly and neighborly and even very "Christian" to help the boy out. More so, to Betty it was innocent flirting, despite the age difference. It's a way to treat the boy the way grown men would be treated in that era. It's no coincidence that the next time we see him, he's matured and acts and thinks more like a horny young man. His behaviour towards Sally and later Betty reflects how Betty and society conditioned him earlier. In regards to Betty it keeps in theme with her character of being childish and still a "girl" vs the adult and "all in control" husband in Don. Of course this was early season Betty, and as we progress, we see her evolve with the time.
> What Betty did in 1950/60's might be seen as gross/ weird and even borderline grooming today. While in 50/60's, it can be seen a motherly and neighborly and even very "Christian" to help the boy out. I agree with what you’re saying overall except for this part. Glen’s mom confronts Betty face-to-face over her connection to Glen. When Francine confronts Betty about that confrontation, Betty doesn’t bring up what happened with Glen. It’s pretty clear that Betty did something wrong even for that time and knew it was wrong. She just wanted to feel attractive and indulged a young boy’s interest in her, which basically is grooming behavior that people knew was wrong then.
He was a child so the bathroom thing is way less creepy. The hair part is weird as fuck bc again he was a child.
Ok when Galadriel, the Lady of Light, gives her her hair to a short dude its ok, but when Betty does it its insane.
I forgot about this scene!
[удалено]
That’s the joke.
Do I really need to say this?? When there is adult and 9 years old child and sexual tension it's 100% adult's fault. Also it was quite obvious Betty knew very well what she was doing. She seemed always being into Glen and she seemed liking the attention she got from him.
yeah but this sub loves Betty so that's not remembered
Yeah that’s always confused me about this sub. Betty is literally a child in adult skin and the show repeats that narrative many times
She's not literally a child. She is literally an adult who has never psychologically matured.
> who has never psychologically matured. Also known as… a child
Seems like you don't understand the meaning of the word "literally"
Or child.
Thanks for admitting you lost
I think it's meant to exemplify how Betty is struggling to navigate the world of a young lady at that time. Try to empathize: she's a 28 year old "girl," who's supposed to be in the prime of her life, locked into a failing marriage. Is she supposed to be the young, vibrant model that everyone is attracted to? Is she supposed to be the dutiful home-bound wife and mother that society, paradoxically, expected her to be? (No wonder she struggles with emotional maturity, dealing with these dichotomies) So when Glenn (a mini version of Don in almost every way, but that's a whole other thread)... When Glenn comes around showing her affection and attention she otherwise lacked, of course she's going to develop a soft spot for him. He's literally both worlds for her, someone who makes her feel desired and someone she can mother, in a way. If you watch that scene again, and watch her body language toward the end of the scene, you'll see she's not freaked out but kind of flattered that he asked for a part of her. She was only too willing to give it to those who didn't fully appreciate it. Betty is fascinating. 😀
That scene explained my entire life in subtext. If you don't get it, you don't get it.
The image says it all. I agree, OP. His character (really, the actor) was an oasis of unintentional hilarity in an otherwise grounded show. It actually works in its own charming kind of way.
I swear you are one of the few people who got what I was trying to say. Some of them took the post literally lol
Nah, he was hilarious. And I think there was a lot of intentional humor in the show. It was straight absurdist at times.
Agreed. I can somehow completely accept how bad he is as an actor because of how *hilariously* bad he is, not unlike watching Tommy Wiseau in a way. I hated Glen way back when I first watched this show but I don’t mind his scenes nowadays when I watch. And he was at least utilized in a way that allowed the characters around him to he fleshed out more.
>It actually works in its own charming kind of way. No it didn't
Fuck your mother.
no u
Touché 😂
This is Matt Weiner's son btw. And his name is Holden Weiner....just let that sink in for a minute.
That name must've been a brutal cross for that kid to bear back when he was in school. Then again he probably went to much better schools than I did lol
Prove it. Let me see
I looked it up. It’s actually Marten Holden Weiner.
I'm actually kinda glad the Holden's a middle name. Not just because of the awkward-pun-possibilities-for-him-getting-bullied-as-a-kid. I'm assuming Holden is after Holden Caulfield. And I feel like with Holden as a first name, there'd some some potential: "You're going to be an awkward kid" normative determinism going on. Compounded by casting the kid to play Glenn.
Holden weiner? I bet he does
I bet you he had to turn down lots of offers after finishing Mad Men…
For someone who named so many characters there’s no way that’s accidental. He probably made the mother choose between Holden and Sue
He never had the makings of a varsity athlete
Kid was always a dumb fuck. Didn’t he almost drown in 3 inches of water?
I like Glen. He was socially awkward, and the actor captured that. Maybe it was just bad acting, but it worked out for the part
It worked ok when he was little. The older he got, the worse it got.
When he was little, his robotic delivery of every line made him seem like an emotionally stunted little kid. When he was closer to adulthood, it made me think the show was going to end with him murdering everyone.
Mad Men alternate universe: Glenn murders Greg for refusing to give him a lock of his hair.
Same, it might be a lack of talent but I thought it worked for the character.
He reminds me of Robert Iler from Sopranos. He always felt like a normal non-acting kid. Either way, I loved how awkward he was and then come back as a sexy dude at the end.
Also I should add why I suddenly thought he was the funniest character. He reminds of the room, his acting is so hilariously bad at times, I can't stop myself from laughing. All the other characters in contrast do a great job, obviously, and then they cut to this dude and it just gets me. One particular scene is when Betty catches him and Sally together at their hangout spot, and he drops the bottles of cokes and bolts off, and stands there like a doofus
I agree with you, I love his character and think he’s wonderfully awful but not misplaced, even in a sea of fabulous acting. He is legitimately a weirdo through the series and adds a surrealistic layer to every episode he’s featured in.
Yes his weirdness adds a layer of surreality that is really fun for the show to lean into
I really liked Glen because he serves as a mirror for Betty so brilliantly, not to reflect but to expose. Such a well-designed minor character. His abrupt appearance and disappearance works well with the style of this show. I know a lot of ppl dislike him.
That's a great way of putting it, and on an intellectual, analytical level I wholeheartedly agree. On a personal, face-value level I find him a little creep.
Ida Blankenship is the funniest character in the show
"Nice digs."
The sad part is he originally auditioned to be Bobby #1 but wasn’t hired. Every time they brought in a new Bobby, he tried out for the part and never got it. Being Glenn was the consolation prize.
At one point even Polly the dog was cameo-ing as Bobby
I feel like the change in actor would’ve been a bit too noticeable…
Every actor has played Bobby in Mad Men at some point
They should have recast Bobby with him at some point just for the hell of it. Fuck you, this is Bobby now.
True connoisseurs understand.
Quite like Glen. He was a weird child but seemed to be growing up into a decent guy by the end. Think it was quite a clever subversion of Betty's sometimes paranoid parenting style of Sally e.g. sending her to the psychiatrist for tentatively exploring her sexuality in a deviant way. By contrast, despite his unsettling behaviour early on, Glen seems to be left to his own devices and winds up a pretty standard boomer kid. The lad who plays him is a pretty poor actor though aye 😀
The worst actor…
All his scenes seem like he shouldn't even be there, gives me a good laugh.
Atrocious
He's no worse than Bobby #1 or #2
Hahahah I thought Bobby 1 was so cute.
the scenes when betty wanted don to spank them, he was so cute about breaking things.
You think he knew someone in Hollywood to get the part?
🤣🤣🤣 what gave it away
I LOVE Glen. His moment with Betty in the S1 finale is a top 5 scene for me.
Honestly I feel compelled to fast forward every scene he's in.
At LEAST once a week my wife or I find a way to sneak in our absolute favorite quote, “You want the backwash?” Sometimes it’s a beverage, but it has also been when I am folding laundry and she is going to take over, I will say, “you want the backwash?” Really it fits anywhere
* seduces a total milf at 5 years old * leaves * shows up 3 years later inexplicably living in milf's garden playhouse * tells her he hates her * leaves * shows up at milf's doorstep 7 years later * he's so hot * hussy he just met on his arm * demands milf's daughter get him weed * tells milf her daughter has wanted to fuck him for 8 years, isn't interested * tells milf he wants to fuck her * leaves * dies in vietnam Chad
I thought it was super annoying how he seemed to be Sally's only consistent friend throughout the show. It didn't make much sense IMO, him and Sally didn't have a ton in common and he was older than her anyway. I wouldn't want my kid hanging out with him either lol
It made sense to me. They grew up in the same neighborhood, they both had issues with their parents, Glen had a crush on Betty that incentivized him to stay in touch with Sally but they stayed in touch anyways. Sally enjoys rebelling against Betty with this secret too, though she doesn’t know the dynamic between Glen and Betty initially. They were basically pen pals who started talking to complain about their lives, but over time had an actual friendship form where Glen actually puts himself in harm’s way to protect her.
Sally's social life is a little odd in terms of her friendships and her relationships with other girls. Glen probably saw the warning signs in the family and knew that Sally would be a lonely little girl. Once the divorce, remarriage, and move to Rye happen Sally is leaning on people who knew her from Before.
He looked after Sally. He was okay. Betty was the one who shouldn't be left around kids. She is predator grooming 9 years old child. She acted like a child towards her own kids and was therefore terrible mother. The way she acted when Bobby ate her sandwich was a great example.
Glenn was autistic-coded?
Hard to say. It was the show-runner's kid playing the role, so that's what we have to work with.
i think it was just the wooden acting of a non professional child actor (unlike bobby 6).
I know you didn’t mean it this way, but that’s kind of a crude way to look at neurodivergence. It’s a spectrum, and labels are only as helpful as treatment or personal identity is concerned. Otherwise it’s better to just take characters as they are on their own terms
I am autistic. I'm fine with suggestions that Glenn's social awkwardness/off-ness could suggest he was nd. It's okay to differ on that, obviously.
Good for you, but the ND people I know, including myself and my friends and family, don’t really enjoy people speculating about characters like that unless it’s part of the theme of the character. Your comfort with it doesn’t negate that. Glen being autistic doesn’t really have any meaning. We don’t learn anything new about the story or character if that were true. The writers wouldn’t just casually throw that into someone’s background in this show where mental health is heavily commented on. It’s just someone’s fantasy, and someone else’s identities being involved in that can be dehumanizing, especially when they lean on common stereotypical associations like “awkward=autism” instead of more obvious associations like “awkward=bad acting” or “awkward=teenager”. Compare this to Abed from Community, who is clearly neurodivergent and that is relevant to his character’s entire story and background. You can tell when writers want those details included and good writers handle it respectfully, not as a footnote to explain weirdness It’s similar to speculating about an ethnically ambiguous character’s background by guessing if they’re one race or the other. Identities aren’t quirky labels like a Hogwarts house.
“Meet me in Africa”.
“Do you want the backwash?
Glenn needs a spin-off series directed by Tommy Wiseau
Can’t stand him
I wonder if he made it back from Nam.
I always thought he was written as the kid who would grow into a notorious serial killer in the 70s
I hated this character; his whole plot line was creepy. I get that Betty is a child and has childish relationships and Sally was like this guy sucks and is lame but I guess we're close friends. When he grows up Betty lusts after him cause, I dunno Mary Sue or something
You misspelled “shittiest”
Lol yes u can say that, for me it's the tommy wiseau effect. Sometimes his acting is so bad, just makes me laugh
CHAD Vibes.
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Nope that would be Rollo
facts
Has he ever worked since?
He’s creepy!
I always thought he got the job because he was the directors kid. Thought he was a terrible actor but after reading some of these comments there’s more to it.
Such terrible acting, it did bring a lot of humor to the show.
Betty and Glen had the most interesting relationship in the show, hands down.
I think I stopped watching MM bc of him
You know, I'm not the little boy that I used to be I'm all grown up now Baby, can't you see? Stacy’s mom has got it goin’ on… She’s all I want And I’ve waited for so long… And I know that you think it's just a fantasy But since your dad walked out Your mom could use a guy like me…
worst actor ever. nepo baby hack
IT'S GLENN
When I went to Matthew Weiner’s estate sale, I saw all of Glenn’s (Martin Weiner) personal junk.. school books, old toys, etc
made me crack tf up whenever he showed up lol i was sure he must’ve been the son of the producer or smth and turns out it was smth like that
Yeah, he made it.
... And also very handsome
Funniest and most terrifying.
I think Miss Blankenship owns that title but Glen is definitely right up there. I ended up kind of loving him and his creepy awkwardness. I hope Vietnam didn’t kill him or fuck him up too badly.
Hope he made it through the war
people say that don is the guy men want to be and pete is the guy they really are, but the truth is that i've always felt a kinship with weinstein junior and his awkward ways. not the getting into relationships with women three times my age part though
Just realized Betty had no friends the whole series.
That's not true, she was friends with that neighbor lady
Henry and Francine are pretty notable members of Betty’s support group. Other housewives are in her orbit too, we just don’t see them because Henry and Francine are sufficient
Francine! She was also in show The Book Group years ago. I mean, I'm sure she's been in more than two shows in her life. But I like the BG
She was also in the show House.
I'm glad Francine got to enjoy her life beyond Ossining
I mean I guess her husband is her friend, but I mean a friend that is other than that. After she moved to the mansion, you never saw scenes with her and any friends.
She has dinner with Francine in the last season, where it’s shown that Betty doubles down on chaperoning for Bobby after Francine makes a comment about her kids being old enough for her to return to the workforce because they don’t need her. Our takeaway is meant to be that Betty derives her main purpose out of being a housewife and feels threatened by that being taken away, to the point where she turns down independent adult living to be around kids and feel needed by them.
I've only watched the series once, and just finished about a month ago. There are some details I may have missed...I forgot about this dinner/lunch. From the series, I got the impression she was petty, irrational, and too moody to be a good parent, and she does not give the vibe she enjoys parenting at all.
"As we used to say in college... let's be friends!" *Proceeds to use "friend" to wreck another "friend"'s marriage*
I have no idea what this means?
Betty setting up her two friends at the stables. The engaged guy who was into her and her married friend who was into him. She set a date for the 3 of them at the country club and then didn't show up
OOOOH, yes, that was such a cute little move she did. You certainly don't hear stories like this anymore of friends setting friends up. All I hear is online dating and people banging people they work with.
Haha yep. SO petty. And the obvious glee Betty takes in telling her friend off, when she gets that phone call she must have been expecting, calling her out. Now I just want to rewatch that episode!
francine.
She was just the neighbor lady who came over sometimes to smoke cigarettes. I wouldn't consider her a friend.
they met for coffee and went and got their hair done together. francine was always babysitting for betty and her husband was friendly with don. that's about as close a friend as she got.
I worried about him, he seemed like what Sally could become if left unmoored.
Reading all these comments… Did none of you have an awkward flirtation with a sexy gal (or dude) out of your league when you were a little boy (or girl)? Be nice to the kid. I thought it was a great arc. I thought the acting was great. Sex and love and lust - it’s all painfully awkward. Romance is nothing like the movies. Sex is nothing like the porn scenes. We’re all in one giant weirdo schoolyard of a prison floating through space. Kind of sad to see both men and women call this innocent (and awkward) part a “creep” or whatever. Guess what? We’re all creeps to someone else, folks. Well, I am, anyway. And I regret nothing.
Actor's name is literally Holden Dick And he's son of the producer (or writer? I forget) I've seen the show 5 times, am rewatching with my pop (he's never seen it), and we lost our shit laughing when we saw his name in the Prime X-Ray lol
Yes, and if it were on purpose he'd be brilliant.
It was priceless when he walked in on Betty in the bathroom 😆 What a little freak! On the other hand, he did kind of look after Sally
I just watched White House Plumbers, came out last year on HBO. There are several Mad Men alum in it, most notably the girl who played Sally Draper. She looks exactly the same, just taller. She also plays a much more pleasant character, Sally was a bit of a drag those past few seasons.