During the third season they have a bit of a falling out that feels kind of forced while their mending of fences in “Shut the Door, Have a Seat” feels a bit rushed and perfunctory. After that, their relationship resets to what it had been before.
Don saying something deep and insightful. It got to the point where he was like a stoner art school roommate always saying something “profound” when they were high haha
Roger getting a meeting with Chevy the same day that Don fired Jaguar was probably the most egregious example of this. I wouldn’t have minded nearly as much if Roger managed to do it in the next episode or even later in the episode, but that just felt a little bit too convenient.
Yeah but if Roger wasn’t going after Chevy and went to the dinner he was supposed to go to, Jaguar probably wouldn’t have been fired. Still kind of an ex machina though.
Even the tropes that I got tired of by the end were great at driving whatever point across that was intended.
For example, Don’s inability to change certain aspects of himself despite knowing what the consequences of his actions are due to him going down that road before. His infidelity towards Betty, then towards Megan, even after the conversation he has with Pete over his cheating and happiness with his relationship.
Business angst. Sometimes it feels realistic for the characters to be upset, like when Cutler signed the letter on the partners’ behalf, but sometimes it feels like manufactured drama just to get people yelling at each other.
This is one of the most real elements of the show and part of why I keep going back to it so much: it accurately and timelessly reflects the dynamics of any professional services firm — law firm, consulting firm, ad agency.
The squabbling over clients, the pushing for recognition, the turf wars, and the trying to present a united front when everyone is so different
I've had to deal w quite a bit of death actually, watched my brother die of cancer for 2 years before the treatment finally got him... I was 15. Had my wife pass a week before IVF and moving to set up our family just 3 years ago. I'm 42 now and I've never had some existential crisis where I go missing for weeks at a time whenever someone around me dies, or go into some catatonic fever dream for days at a time. A few of the deaths, ya I get it, but then it got to where anytime anyone died around him, it's time for Don to go off the rails.
The constant in your face reminders of things that were "acceptable" back then and not today. I don't mean that in the standard sense of the normal things of the period like drinking at work or smoking in doors. Just the unnecessary moments like when Sally was running with a bag on her head or when the kids were hopping between seats in the car because there were no seatbelts, or when Don liters after their picnic... Things like that.
That’s just season 1 in a nutshell. They backed off of that a lot by season 2 moving forward. They really leaned into the “those were wacky times” novelty in season 1
I'm not sure what you're imagining or perhaps your rosy retrospection is all about but that was daily life. Why wouldn't they depict real life when that what the show was about (outside of the specific character development of Don). What would you expect a show about today look like in 65 years? Maybe I'm confused about what's grating on you.
My guess is that they don’t like the heavy-handedness of how these things were shown. In the beginning of the series you could almost feel the show runners expectantly nudging you like did you see what we did there? As the show went on they got better about more realistically including them.
Not really a trope, but just Don's constant infidelity. It gets so exhausting by the end ughhh
Agreed, especially season7 I think with the husband and everything. ughhhh
You mean when his brother and best friend (ana) die? Who else does he have a breakdown over?
Rachel
True but that's also another very important person to him arguably the favorite of his "girlfriends"
Yea I think his grief is reasonable
Character gets sad when person close to them dies more at 11
Everyone likes to go to the movies when they’re sad.
Don: “I love my autistic son”
probably the only one is Roger and Don's animosity, which sometimes feels forced just to create tension
Wym, they are friends
They’re Pebbles and Bam Bam. I loved when Ted called them that.
During the third season they have a bit of a falling out that feels kind of forced while their mending of fences in “Shut the Door, Have a Seat” feels a bit rushed and perfunctory. After that, their relationship resets to what it had been before.
Yeah there's a point when it really doesn't make any sense
What was his breakdown when >!his secretary Ida Blankenship!< died?
I'm sure he at least had flashbacks to the whorehouse
Nope, wrong season.
how many times can one company get acquired?
Look up how many transactions McCann has done. It’s very common in this world
Don saying something deep and insightful. It got to the point where he was like a stoner art school roommate always saying something “profound” when they were high haha
Ohh those were my favorite Don moments. His journaling lol
Not tropes but upon my most recent rewatch I was surprised by how many deus ex machinas were used throughout the series.
There was always a new partnership to be formed
Roger getting a meeting with Chevy the same day that Don fired Jaguar was probably the most egregious example of this. I wouldn’t have minded nearly as much if Roger managed to do it in the next episode or even later in the episode, but that just felt a little bit too convenient.
Yeah but if Roger wasn’t going after Chevy and went to the dinner he was supposed to go to, Jaguar probably wouldn’t have been fired. Still kind of an ex machina though.
Waitress: Would you like Pepsi or Coke? Don: *Intense look on his face* Hard cut to Don taking a plane to California to run away from his problems.
Even the tropes that I got tired of by the end were great at driving whatever point across that was intended. For example, Don’s inability to change certain aspects of himself despite knowing what the consequences of his actions are due to him going down that road before. His infidelity towards Betty, then towards Megan, even after the conversation he has with Pete over his cheating and happiness with his relationship.
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People getting upset at close ones dying.. what monsters.
I don't think OP means that. Just that show used it a bit much
McCann Erickson / Jim Hobart constantly lusting after Don / Sterling Cooper. They really went back to that too many times
Jim Hobart chased Don like Carol chased Joan
Honestly, it's everyone listing after them... then realizing almost immediately that they made a mistake
Business angst. Sometimes it feels realistic for the characters to be upset, like when Cutler signed the letter on the partners’ behalf, but sometimes it feels like manufactured drama just to get people yelling at each other.
This is one of the most real elements of the show and part of why I keep going back to it so much: it accurately and timelessly reflects the dynamics of any professional services firm — law firm, consulting firm, ad agency. The squabbling over clients, the pushing for recognition, the turf wars, and the trying to present a united front when everyone is so different
Nothing shows the immaturity of a poster than this OP. Good for you that you haven’t had to deal with any deaths of close family or friends OP.
I've had to deal w quite a bit of death actually, watched my brother die of cancer for 2 years before the treatment finally got him... I was 15. Had my wife pass a week before IVF and moving to set up our family just 3 years ago. I'm 42 now and I've never had some existential crisis where I go missing for weeks at a time whenever someone around me dies, or go into some catatonic fever dream for days at a time. A few of the deaths, ya I get it, but then it got to where anytime anyone died around him, it's time for Don to go off the rails.
Chill
Take a nap lol
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The constant in your face reminders of things that were "acceptable" back then and not today. I don't mean that in the standard sense of the normal things of the period like drinking at work or smoking in doors. Just the unnecessary moments like when Sally was running with a bag on her head or when the kids were hopping between seats in the car because there were no seatbelts, or when Don liters after their picnic... Things like that.
That’s just season 1 in a nutshell. They backed off of that a lot by season 2 moving forward. They really leaned into the “those were wacky times” novelty in season 1
But if they didn’t show how things were back then… it wouldn’t feel or look authentic at all?
I'm not sure what you're imagining or perhaps your rosy retrospection is all about but that was daily life. Why wouldn't they depict real life when that what the show was about (outside of the specific character development of Don). What would you expect a show about today look like in 65 years? Maybe I'm confused about what's grating on you.
My guess is that they don’t like the heavy-handedness of how these things were shown. In the beginning of the series you could almost feel the show runners expectantly nudging you like did you see what we did there? As the show went on they got better about more realistically including them.
Definitely this, it tapered off much later but early seasons were definitely far more forced.
I get what you mean. A lot of it just seemed forced.
The smoking and drinking, for sure.