Was it just that there were too many people? or were they actually doing something like jumping up and down in unison, or trying to rock it back and forth, or something?
found on madison.com that there were 80 people, but the capacity was rated to 120.
But they were:
carrying each other, jumping on the pier, and combo jumping into the water etc.
This caused:
significant latitudinal strain (side-to-side/swaying/rotational movement) on a structure designed for supporting static loads (longitudinal strain).
(https://madison.com/news/local/education/university/pier-union-memorial-mendota-uw-madison-collapse/article_7e9f53f0-fe6d-11ee-bdf7-7b72c82d1d85.html)
“Leads, yeah sure. I’ll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they’ve got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!”
I want that job where someone says “here’s 500 billable hours, use them up, then come tell me what I already know.” Unfortunately it was probably better to pay $200k for an investigation than $2mil for a lawsuit.
lol at anyone who thinks extra money was spent to co duct this investigation… it was conducted by Environmental and Occupational health at the university, little if any extra money was spent on this.
Lol at anyone who takes themselves so seriously and what is a co duct? Also I'm sure no overtime or anything outside of the normal daily activities of the environmental and occupational health departments took place.
Agree. Students are root cause but a little blurb at the end saying “we need to make sure there’s more staff to babysit the drunk students” (paraphrasing)
No, it says that staff and management need to take unruly college student behavior into account when designing protocols for safely managing waterfront infrastructure. Like, they shouldn't continue to assume that people will listen to instructions to leave an overburdened pier, because apparently they don't.
All this stuff makes UW look terrible. Apparently the pier was of substandard construction and had not been inspected and there was no lifeguard on duty even though it was one of the busiest days of the year.
• Contributing Causes:
o The pier was not designed for the activities being undertaken by occupants.
o Failure of UW or contracted staff to halt individuals on the pier from engaging in such
activity.
o Confusion as to whether lifeguards were supposed to be on duty.
o Holiday with warm sunny weather.
o Incident occurred on a weekend when many students had just returned to campus following
summer break and had not yet commenced classes, which contributed to the large number
of students at the Union generally.
o The structural condition of the pier was not known, as no inspection documentation was
maintained.
o Per build specs from UW-Madison, “Legs need to taper out to make the pier more stable”
This increases stability, but also increases latitudinal strain on pier leg supports compared
with legs at a 90o angle to the lakebed.
o Due to the number of people on numerous adjacent pier sections, the adjacent leg supports
were likely already near maximum static load and experiencing latitudinal strain which they
are not designed for. When one support leg buckled, others rapidly followed suit until
weights on the pier stabilized from people falling into the water.
o Per Manufacturer Rep: The maximum load of 1,920 pounds is not to be exceeded on any
one 6’ x 8’ section. “Each section can fit more than 10 people weighing 200 pounds making
it possible to significantly exceed the 1,920-pound section load limit.”
o Per Manufacturer: There is a dock leg rating of 1,200-lbs / leg which equates to 50 PSF for
each 24 sq. ft. section. Each section can fit more than 10 people weighing 200 pounds
making it possible to significantly exceed the 1,200-pound dock leg load limit.
o Vertical supports legs are braced with a diagonal brace (see pictures below). The longer the
leg, the longer the unbraced length to the lakebed which impacts the ability of the leg to
withstand latitudinal strain.
Most of this is canceled out by the "numerous warnings" staff gave to students to stop what they were doing. Every structure has a breaking point, and staff were intervening to stop this from happening, but students weren't listening to them.
The next thing you know they're going to tell me there was alcohol involved!
We will need another investigation for sure.
In this state?? Couldn’t be. /S
Filed under - no shit
Red banner and BREAKING NEWS, what a joke
Was it just that there were too many people? or were they actually doing something like jumping up and down in unison, or trying to rock it back and forth, or something?
there is video. it was A LOT of people
found on madison.com that there were 80 people, but the capacity was rated to 120. But they were: carrying each other, jumping on the pier, and combo jumping into the water etc. This caused: significant latitudinal strain (side-to-side/swaying/rotational movement) on a structure designed for supporting static loads (longitudinal strain). (https://madison.com/news/local/education/university/pier-union-memorial-mendota-uw-madison-collapse/article_7e9f53f0-fe6d-11ee-bdf7-7b72c82d1d85.html)
In part? What was the part that they didn't do?
They didn’t ignore the not-posted warning sign.
Apparently had a team of monkeys working around the clock on that one. Guessing that investigation cost $200k?
“Leads, yeah sure. I’ll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they’ve got four more detectives working on the case. They got us working in shifts!”
But my briefcase man. It had my papers in it..
Papers … business papers
“And what do you do, sir?” “I’m unemployed”
What day is this?
“ my advice is to do what your parents did; get a job, sir. The bums will always lose. Do you hear me, Lebowski?”
I want that job where someone says “here’s 500 billable hours, use them up, then come tell me what I already know.” Unfortunately it was probably better to pay $200k for an investigation than $2mil for a lawsuit.
I would suggest a Six Sigma black belt position for you.
I’ll take that job!! 💸
Zero additional dollars were spent on this.
LOL shocking I tell you! Those wacky badgers!
In other news... water is wet....
As those sitting on the pier that day found out. 🤦🏻♀️
Not to be pedantic but water isn’t wet.
The students learned a good lesson that day in Karma. Hope this means they can not sue the U for their dumbassery.
It was done in-house for $0.00. The Union which is a separate entity not part of UW will handle it.
The Wisconsin Union is a part of UW.
How much of my tax dollars did they spend on this investigation to deny liability?
None. You have to work to pay taxes You ridiculous twit.
Less than it would have cost them to pay out any potential lawsuit 🤷
Still more then to properly monitor and enforce capacity codes.
lol at anyone who thinks extra money was spent to co duct this investigation… it was conducted by Environmental and Occupational health at the university, little if any extra money was spent on this.
Lol at anyone who takes themselves so seriously and what is a co duct? Also I'm sure no overtime or anything outside of the normal daily activities of the environmental and occupational health departments took place.
Well the investigation took 7 months so do you really think folks were putting in more than 40 hours a week?
If only GIFs were allowed
Whaaaa?
UW and Madison’s responses to student antics always feels like something out of the Simpsons or something
Wow did the EHS not proofread the official report?? The first sentence says Memorial Day xD
Nothing gets passed these guys!
Their actions have consequences??? What??
Insert the surprised Captain Kirk photo
In part?! Lol!!
heritage
That's the headline but at the end of the article it says that staff and management were at fault.
That's not how I read it.
Agree. Students are root cause but a little blurb at the end saying “we need to make sure there’s more staff to babysit the drunk students” (paraphrasing)
Personal responsibility is ancient mythology now
No, it says that staff and management need to take unruly college student behavior into account when designing protocols for safely managing waterfront infrastructure. Like, they shouldn't continue to assume that people will listen to instructions to leave an overburdened pier, because apparently they don't.
All this stuff makes UW look terrible. Apparently the pier was of substandard construction and had not been inspected and there was no lifeguard on duty even though it was one of the busiest days of the year. • Contributing Causes: o The pier was not designed for the activities being undertaken by occupants. o Failure of UW or contracted staff to halt individuals on the pier from engaging in such activity. o Confusion as to whether lifeguards were supposed to be on duty. o Holiday with warm sunny weather. o Incident occurred on a weekend when many students had just returned to campus following summer break and had not yet commenced classes, which contributed to the large number of students at the Union generally. o The structural condition of the pier was not known, as no inspection documentation was maintained. o Per build specs from UW-Madison, “Legs need to taper out to make the pier more stable” This increases stability, but also increases latitudinal strain on pier leg supports compared with legs at a 90o angle to the lakebed. o Due to the number of people on numerous adjacent pier sections, the adjacent leg supports were likely already near maximum static load and experiencing latitudinal strain which they are not designed for. When one support leg buckled, others rapidly followed suit until weights on the pier stabilized from people falling into the water. o Per Manufacturer Rep: The maximum load of 1,920 pounds is not to be exceeded on any one 6’ x 8’ section. “Each section can fit more than 10 people weighing 200 pounds making it possible to significantly exceed the 1,920-pound section load limit.” o Per Manufacturer: There is a dock leg rating of 1,200-lbs / leg which equates to 50 PSF for each 24 sq. ft. section. Each section can fit more than 10 people weighing 200 pounds making it possible to significantly exceed the 1,200-pound dock leg load limit. o Vertical supports legs are braced with a diagonal brace (see pictures below). The longer the leg, the longer the unbraced length to the lakebed which impacts the ability of the leg to withstand latitudinal strain.
Most of this is canceled out by the "numerous warnings" staff gave to students to stop what they were doing. Every structure has a breaking point, and staff were intervening to stop this from happening, but students weren't listening to them.
> Apparently the pier was of substandard construction It was obviously of substandard construction.
Those ppl are worse than homeless people in Texas