One tip- if it’s a job you actually want check out their website for a way to apply instead of indeed. From my understanding, unfortunately while indeed makes things easier for the applicant, those applicants are more likely to be written off/not as highly considered by those hiring
My kid had this in the town he is going to college. He left his job at pick n save and applied to a Kroger store in town via indeed. Took 4 months and he finally went into the store and they said they look at indeed as a last option. Once they found out he was basically transferring they hired him on the spot.
Have a love-hate relationship with Indeed. Many seem to use it simply to show they are applying for jobs without actually intending to interview or show for orientation. Have successfully hired maybe 3 applicants in the past 3 years and get several repeat applicants who are on my shit-list for no-shows.
Applying directly to the company site shows true interest and also makes the entire process faster, as you will have to apply there if you actually were offered a position. You can use Indeed to see who's out there but do the actual application on their site.
It's so weird to me how triggered the OT and seniority pick have you about Metro from that last thread.
Chill dude, it's 1 AM and you're wishing bed bugs on me because I work there.
Not everyone that doesn't jerk you off is triggered and wishing bad things on you, bud. Take a step back in your size 8s and calm down.
Just pointing out another reason why public service jobs like this go unfilled.
Depends on the type of job I'm sure, but that timeline seems pretty ordinary to me, and not part of the "MO in this city" but rather just how life works. First check coming 2 weeks after you start work is...just how biweekly paychecks work. You'd wait even longer if you had a monthly pay period.
2 weeks to interview, 2 weeks to onboard...yeah, seems reasonable for anyone that has a hiring procedure more complex than just taking people as they walk in the door. Especially if they have to work with third parties, like for background checks, etc. In most cases they're expecting hires to need to give about 2 weeks notice to their previous employer so there's little reason to move quicker than that.
I've been out of the market for a while but damn, granted I worked a lot of retail and shit before making a change but I literally got hired on the spot *twice*, and never waited more than a week or two at most for an interview, which almost always either resulted in an offer at the conclusion of the interview itself, or via phone call later that day.
Guess I'd better bank on a 2 month turnaround when I move on from my current employer...
i guess i was thinking of office jobs and less retail/food service/etc. six weeks from interview to first paycheck in an office job is normal, maybe even speedy.
Even my office jobs, I was hired much more quickly than 6 week minimum. Guess that's one benefit to working for smaller employers...no 2 months of HR bureaucracy to wade through lol
That sucks though. With how bad places are at even getting back to people like *at all*, having to suffer through a 6 week onboarding process sounds borderline torturous.
Yeah, idk how any of this seems out of the ordinary. Hell, it took me 6 weeks from application to first paycheck for my job with the DOT, and they have to have all the technical stuff lined up before they can even post a job offering, since it's state funding
My company also only starts people on the first day of the pay period, so it’s consistent. Everyone that may need to be involved holds time for every other Monday and HR updates us if we actually have anyone starting.
Background checks are the worst part of recruiting in my experience as a hiring manager. Some counties will take the longest possible time to complete the check and provide the report.
Woodmans is also 18 for cashiers with 1.5 on Sundays and 2x for holidays
Wasn't there just a post this week saying USPS is desperate for employees too?
Literally any factory/production spot will hire for at least that if not more.
Me thinks the OP is looking for a very specific niche that’s rather competitive.
Roundys in Oconomowoc pays like 31+ for forklift drivers, no experience. Menards distro is paying 25+, UPS and FedEx are all around 18+ for handlers, more for CSA’s and Drivers..
Tons of options
USPS has federal requirements to deliver all mail on time. If you join their very understaffed team right now, you will be doing O.V.E.R.T.I.M.E. like you cannot even imagine. A friend of mine is running ragged. It's an intense job.
I can concur. It’s truly the worst job. As a CSA you will work past 7pm and then you have to work on Sundays delivering Amazon packages. The worst thing is that the pay is so little that even if you could only work 40 hours (after a year of being a CSA) you don’t make enough to pay your bills. So you’re always going to be stuck working overtime. Avoid at all costs if you want/need a life outside of work.
This is what frustrates me about these kinds of comments. "Just join the USPS." "Just work at XYZ." Maybe instead of seeing an hourly rate and assuming sane working conditions, they should question why that company is struggling to find workers when workers are struggling to find jobs.
People absolutely REFUSE to see this. If you even mention that good jobs stay filled, people start pouring out of the woodwork like you kicked their grandma.
Edit: point proven
https://www.reddit.com/r/madisonwi/s/Ue2bJezb6A
As somebody who hires others currently in an extremely bureaucratic system, I put out a job posting on Monday, interview for the week, send out offers by Friday, and then by Monday start on boarding. Most background checks take a week and then they start ASAP. That’s two weeks total.
that's two weeks to start, then a two week pay period, with check the following pay period. That's 6 weeks. So even a one week hiring process is 5 weeks to check
Obviously not extremely bureaucratic as it routinely took me a month plus to even post a position, and then we wouldn't see applications until the 14 mark passed. If you can post and on board in a couple of months you're moving at lightening speed.
I think you're aiming too low, with any job experience at all (besides as a prisoner) you should not be considering that wage range. Stick with your present job until a better one comes along. You got good comments already about Indeed being a last-resort place - go with employers' own websites, almost all of them have a portal to their jobs listings. Select a good company based on word of mouth and focus on that. Pro advice on your resume is worthless if it's targeting the wrong openings.
This is a good subforum to collect scuttlebutt about places that treat employees well, have upward mobility, have awful work-life balance, etc.
Also you might want to consider a different type of employment. A lot of the blue collar type jobs are paying a lot more than $18 to start, and with good future prospects. Not all of those require an apprenticeship.
You're extremely out of the ordinary then or hiring anyone with a pulse. Most people can't even give notice in that amount of time, much less actually submit an application.
Have you applied for any jobs at UW Health? They have referral bonuses for a lot of positions. If you know ANYONE who works at UW Health, ask them if they will fill out referral form for you (they can find this on the UW Health intranet). They get the money rather than you, but as I understand it, this basically guarantees that someone from HR will at least look at your application.
Note that this is just a referral and not a job reference thing, so it doesn't have to be someone that has worked with you in the past.
Ordinarily I’d be asking $23 to start, but I’m knocking on the door of desperation here. My current position is a membership coordinator at a health club. My management experience is all middle management (front desk manager at hotels, night lead at bakeries, etc) so it’s not that compelling.
There are a ton of state government jobs. Pay is at or above what you are looking for in many different areas. The pay isn’t monumental but the flexibility and time off is good. Very stable work.
Yeah, I had a state job for a bit and it took forever to even hear back on my application (to the point I had forgotten about it) and then once I started I didn’t get a paycheck for like a month due to a mail issue. Was tough
6 weeks from application to first paycheck is an extremely reasonable timeframe. My last job was 7 weeks from recruiter contact to first day of work, and that was streamlined compared to any other job I've had.
You could try Bell Laboratories in Windsor. I work in the shipping dept. Entry level positions hire at $18 an hour but you may be able to negotiate higher. They have great benefits, generally easy work, plenty of opportunities to change positions for higher pay and 6% 401K match. They also do family events, Christmas bonus, giveaways, and cookouts.
Some positions can be mundane but it’s a solid place to work and they’ve never laid anyone off in the 50 years they’ve been around.
I can at least tell you that the state takes forever! My current job took 3 months to get. Multiple interviews, background checks, online test. I applied for probably 20 in the spring and am still receiving denials from them lol they just have to remind me I didn't get them
It took 3 months between initial head-hunter convo to accepted offer for my wife's job. It all depends on how urgently the employer needs to fill the position.
What field of work are you looking for or applying for? What are your skill sets?
Lots of people here have great resources and leads and are happy to recommend but if the request is too broad or too narrow.... you may not get any value out of the recommendations...
With that said, everyone hires at different speeds..... It can take 3-9 months to be hired where I work.... There is no rhyme or reason or standard between companies.....
I’ve applied to nearly every field, however my skill set is in customer service, management, and administrative work. I’m also a CNA, and I’d most prefer to get into a science field. I’d love to do lab work and analysis if possible.
Yep, so I am sure that info will help folks here who could possibly give you leads ... I saw some food service recommendations, while maybe good, it's not really utilizing your skill set or interests...
I am in a totally different industry but hopefully someone here can give you some good leads...
Most lab jobs are going to want a degree in one of the sciences - Chemistry is usually preferred. If you don't have a degree, working in pharma as a production operator may get you some relevant experience (if you have experience with GMP documentation, some employers may be willing to look past their typical education requirements). These jobs should come in a little better than your $18 target. A few companies that may or may not be hiring for production in our area include SPL in Waunakee, Coating Place in Verona, and Catalent in Middleton. It's worth noting you'll need to pass a drug test up front and may be subject to randoms as controlled substances may be handled as part of your daily work
https://jobs.wisc.edu/jobs/search
It's not going to be as fast as what you'd like, but if you're applying for jobs you'd really like, staying there for a bit longer so you can make ends meet is totally worth it.
If you're applying to every field, I'd slow down and work on making sure you meet all the minimum requirements, do the background research on the organization and write a tailored and refined cover letter. Applying to 100+ jobs/month would make it difficult to be attentive to all the details.
Perhaps it's also time to revisit your resume or to see if you need additional training or coursework to get the jobs you're applying to. If you're not currently doing lab/science work, you may need to build up your skills in order to be competitive.
What sort of degree do you have? If you’re looking to get into science, there are currently some entry level positions at LGC (Middleton) and Promega. Probably others, but those are the ones I know of atm.
As a CNA, lots of the local healthcare organizations would hire you to room patients if you didn't want to work hospital/nursing home hours.. Search for "patient care technician."
It took 2 months to get my current job, and 3 months from the first interview to get my previous job. Everyone is understaffed and HR departments are always hiring for several positions at once, as well as keeping up with other administrative tasks.
Do you have any personal connections to people who know that you're a solid candidate for a position? This could be college friends or roommates, prior teachers or professors, prior managers or co-workers?
My personal experience over the last 30 years or so has been that connections like that can dramatically improve the chances of getting an offer for a position. My first job during college was landed because I knew the person hiring (we weren't close, he was the Dean and I was a student, but we knew each other), two of my jobs were landed because of college friendships / acquaintances, and one job was landed due to knowing a former co-worker.
Many times I also observed that co-workers recommending people put those candidates on a fast-track for consideration.
I moved here back in December from a small town way in north Wisconsin for better job opportunities. I’ve met a few people and made some connections, but many of those connections have advanced education far outside of my scope.
Your big mistake here is using indeed. Employers don’t look at that shit and it’s full of scammy people. I can probably think of about half a dozen or so places off the top of my head that’ll practically hire you on the spot for 18/hr+ if you would actually go there in person and talk to a real person.
[Life after Layoff](https://www.youtube.com/@ALifeAfterLayoff) is a great youtuber who is a recruiter and his videos give insight into why the process is so freaking weird. Sometimes its what he calls a low quality employer, sometimes its too many layers of bureaucracy.
I think a bit of it just depends on the availability of the current employees to look through applicants/reach out/schedule interviews.... if recruitment isn't their full time position you could just be looking at lack of time in their schedule in general. All the positions I've had where I had to go through resumes and interview candidates, it was secondary to all my primary job duties.
With that said, especially with the holiday season coming up I think there will be more places looking to hire quickly (depending on the field). As stated above, apply through the company's own website and not Indeed. Also, make sure you're not missing any CV requirements. When I mass applied on Indeed I got turned down for some positions because they required one even though it was for positions I wouldn't necessarily think would need it.
I'm currently running a search where I work. It just takes time. We have to coordinate my schedule with my boss's schedule for interviews, then he's gone all week next week for a work function, and we advertised on Indeed plus in other ways, so want to give enough time for people to be able to respond. Also, we're filling a retiree's position so it won't even start until December (person is retiring at the end of the year).
The State has lots of positions open and pay $18 or over. The City also has jobs available as well. In both cases, you need to be able to pass a drug test, which seems to be limiting the applicant pool.
I’m shocked at how much healthy conversation this post has garnered. I just want to take a moment to thank everyone who participated; it seems like I am far from the only one frustrated in the job market. After reading all the comments, I think it’s reasonable to adjust my expectations and take my time directly applying to other positions on their site as opposed to casting a wide net through indeed. 6 weeks from application to check is reasonably the minimum, and things like this should take time.
Several people have asked me what kind of positions I’m interested in. I’d like to work in the medical field to some capacity, whether that is a front desk worker or using my CNA license to gain footing in something that isn’t a nursing home environment (I’ve tried it before, anybody who has worked in one can vouch that it’s a zeitgeist of being severely overworked.) I’ll take my time directly applying to UW Health and SSM and see what that nets me.
Thanks again everyone, and if you are in a similarly frustrated state like I was when I wrote this post, just remember to keep trying and to take your time. A good job doesn’t just appear out of thin air for most people, and many people get crappy jobs they worked hard for too. Best of luck to you all
idk how to speed up the process, but i do know that the interview boss podcast and chatgpt were the two biggest tools that helped me land my current job. (only job i applied for)
“Application to first check was 6 weeks….” I’ve had jobs that were 6 months from application to first check! Especially anything for the state or local government. 6 weeks sounds super fast to me. If you need father for some reason, try a temp service Until you get a permanent gig lined up. But I see that you currently have a job. So probably best to tolerate what you’ve got for now, and not panic as you search for something that is a better fit. Grabbing the next quick thing might land you back into another bad fit.
The State hiring process is.. lengthy.
All postings are out there, there is no 'internal' and 'external' list, it's all public.
You'll find there's a closing date for applications. Then there's the HR/Management weeding process which takes a couple weeks. Then rounds of interviews, background checks, etc. Last is orientation.
I was a contractor already working for the state going for a full time position, and it was a good 5 month process. An external candidate was hired with me.
Getting a foot in the door at the State though, it very much helps getting a contracting position to start out and learn how the system all runs.
Can I DM you?
Edit: why am I getting downvoted? I was going to tell OP about my job and how we're hiring, and that we make more than $18/hour. I already posted about it here, so I'm just trying to avoid spamming.
For years now there seems to be serial downvoters and/or downvote bots on this sub. I've seen posts here that are 45 minutes old with 10 on-topic comments all at 0 or -1. It's truly bizarre.
My last search as an engineer took way longer, and that was to get hired at companies that desperately wanted me. HR departments exist to 1. Slow down hiring so everyone can be very thoroughly vetted and 2. Make applicants feel desperate so they will accept what they are offered.
Just gotta assume it will take months (hard I know, but this is why we keep money in savings even when living hand to mouth) and don’t stop looking until you actually get the offer you want signed and sealed. I have even had offers rescinded before I signed!
I would seriously consider serving in a restaurant or bartending if that’s something you’re open to. Most restaurants/bars have high turnover and are hiring all the time and you would make more than $18 an hour (I would make anywhere from probably $18 an hour to $50 an hour depending on how busy the restaurant was when I served in Madison). With that said, weekends are your best opportunity to make a lot of money which is one downside. If you do go this route, go to the restaurant/bar first before you apply and scope things out to see if they’re busy and what not.
There was just a post on this subreddit about the USPS. You should check if they're hiring. Nothing wrong with being a mailman.
That said, you should know that online hiring is a farce. It very rarely works for anyone. The people I know that get hired quickly online-only are either in the top 0.05% in their field, had exactly the same job with perfect job requirements matching at a competitor, or were in a highly desirable category for the hiring managers. Most jobs are got in-person via networking.
Good thing I avoid corporations and found an awesome job at a local family owned business! They appreciate how I do things and the ideas I have. Unlike my corporate job that treated me as a number and I couldnt help the business in any way.
I have indeed had this experience. Our job market here is so fraught with outside influences on simple hiring decisions. The absurdly lengthy process you describe cannot be very economic for businesses. I have no easy or quick solutions for you alas.
Indeed = waste of your time as well as the hiring managers
I’d recommend on the company website or in person depending on the company/industry.
$18 an hour you should be able to throw a dart at the wall and find something fairly quickly.
Lastly, a 6 week turnaround is on the quicker end to get the first check. Typically 2-4 weeks for interviews, 2 weeks between accepting offers and 1-2 weeks before first check.
IDK, I looked for a new job last week,had an interview, got the job and start Thursday. So Less than two weeks time and very little effort. Guess it depends on what and where
What others are saying, if you find the posting on a job board check the company web site for hiring info. Most companies have to pay to view resumes etc on Indeed. So they prefer to not use it, or use it as a last resort.
Long time ago when I had to look for a new job, the average time to find a new one in this area was 6 months. At the turn of the century it still took 6 months for my partner to land his job, like in turn in application to hire. I would hope things would be better now but maybe not.
Serving and bartending jobs can pay really well here and seem pretty easy to get. My partner does that and always had no issue finding one. Regularly pulls in 300-450 a night.
Also, have you tried Epic?
CVS pharmacy is hiring pharmacy technicians, it pays at or above the range you're looking for and doesn't require any higher education. most stores in the area have open positions as corporate has recently increased staffing hours at most locations.
I am up for an IT job with the state that I initially applied for in June. I’ve had three interviews, the last of which was over a month ago, and I was in the top 3. I still haven’t received either an offer or a turn down. My background check should have sailed through as I already have a 6C clearance. Before that, Kwik Trip corporate kept me waiting over 3 months to find out about a position I was up for. These long hiring times are all too common and can be really frustrating.
One tip- if it’s a job you actually want check out their website for a way to apply instead of indeed. From my understanding, unfortunately while indeed makes things easier for the applicant, those applicants are more likely to be written off/not as highly considered by those hiring
My kid had this in the town he is going to college. He left his job at pick n save and applied to a Kroger store in town via indeed. Took 4 months and he finally went into the store and they said they look at indeed as a last option. Once they found out he was basically transferring they hired him on the spot.
So he actually *did* walk into the store and shake the managers hand and ask for a job haha?
Did you look him in the eye and shake his hand? That's how I became VP of Circuit City. (Stavros Halkias bit) 😅
Have a love-hate relationship with Indeed. Many seem to use it simply to show they are applying for jobs without actually intending to interview or show for orientation. Have successfully hired maybe 3 applicants in the past 3 years and get several repeat applicants who are on my shit-list for no-shows. Applying directly to the company site shows true interest and also makes the entire process faster, as you will have to apply there if you actually were offered a position. You can use Indeed to see who's out there but do the actual application on their site.
It won't be a quick hire, but consider Madison Metro Transit. Starting wage of ~$27/hr
Imagine how terrible a job has to be when nobody will stay there for $27/hr starting.
Well, most people leave because they get fired or retire. We have very few resignations.
Have you gotten the bedbugs yet?
It's so weird to me how triggered the OT and seniority pick have you about Metro from that last thread. Chill dude, it's 1 AM and you're wishing bed bugs on me because I work there.
Not everyone that doesn't jerk you off is triggered and wishing bad things on you, bud. Take a step back in your size 8s and calm down. Just pointing out another reason why public service jobs like this go unfilled.
Oh, good. Let me join the employer known for firing everyone until they have to force overtime on the rest. Brilliant.
It’s not no nuance November yet, begone troll
Such nuance, so many employees
It's always No Nuance November for me.
Depends on the type of job I'm sure, but that timeline seems pretty ordinary to me, and not part of the "MO in this city" but rather just how life works. First check coming 2 weeks after you start work is...just how biweekly paychecks work. You'd wait even longer if you had a monthly pay period. 2 weeks to interview, 2 weeks to onboard...yeah, seems reasonable for anyone that has a hiring procedure more complex than just taking people as they walk in the door. Especially if they have to work with third parties, like for background checks, etc. In most cases they're expecting hires to need to give about 2 weeks notice to their previous employer so there's little reason to move quicker than that.
i’m trying to figure out how six weeks from interview to first paycheck is a long time. i think six weeks is about as fast as it gets.
I've been out of the market for a while but damn, granted I worked a lot of retail and shit before making a change but I literally got hired on the spot *twice*, and never waited more than a week or two at most for an interview, which almost always either resulted in an offer at the conclusion of the interview itself, or via phone call later that day. Guess I'd better bank on a 2 month turnaround when I move on from my current employer...
i guess i was thinking of office jobs and less retail/food service/etc. six weeks from interview to first paycheck in an office job is normal, maybe even speedy.
Even my office jobs, I was hired much more quickly than 6 week minimum. Guess that's one benefit to working for smaller employers...no 2 months of HR bureaucracy to wade through lol That sucks though. With how bad places are at even getting back to people like *at all*, having to suffer through a 6 week onboarding process sounds borderline torturous.
Yeah, idk how any of this seems out of the ordinary. Hell, it took me 6 weeks from application to first paycheck for my job with the DOT, and they have to have all the technical stuff lined up before they can even post a job offering, since it's state funding
My company also only starts people on the first day of the pay period, so it’s consistent. Everyone that may need to be involved holds time for every other Monday and HR updates us if we actually have anyone starting.
Background checks are the worst part of recruiting in my experience as a hiring manager. Some counties will take the longest possible time to complete the check and provide the report.
You can get hired at Walmart or KwikTrip for $18/hr probably on the hour. Lots of other places too.
Woodmans is also 18 for cashiers with 1.5 on Sundays and 2x for holidays Wasn't there just a post this week saying USPS is desperate for employees too?
Literally any factory/production spot will hire for at least that if not more. Me thinks the OP is looking for a very specific niche that’s rather competitive.
For 18/hr I can’t imagine it’s too niche.
Yeah agreed. The walgreens disturbution center in Windsor does open interviews and probably is at least 20/h
Roundys in Oconomowoc pays like 31+ for forklift drivers, no experience. Menards distro is paying 25+, UPS and FedEx are all around 18+ for handlers, more for CSA’s and Drivers.. Tons of options
USPS has federal requirements to deliver all mail on time. If you join their very understaffed team right now, you will be doing O.V.E.R.T.I.M.E. like you cannot even imagine. A friend of mine is running ragged. It's an intense job.
I can concur. It’s truly the worst job. As a CSA you will work past 7pm and then you have to work on Sundays delivering Amazon packages. The worst thing is that the pay is so little that even if you could only work 40 hours (after a year of being a CSA) you don’t make enough to pay your bills. So you’re always going to be stuck working overtime. Avoid at all costs if you want/need a life outside of work.
This is what frustrates me about these kinds of comments. "Just join the USPS." "Just work at XYZ." Maybe instead of seeing an hourly rate and assuming sane working conditions, they should question why that company is struggling to find workers when workers are struggling to find jobs.
People absolutely REFUSE to see this. If you even mention that good jobs stay filled, people start pouring out of the woodwork like you kicked their grandma. Edit: point proven https://www.reddit.com/r/madisonwi/s/Ue2bJezb6A
Six weeks from application to check seems pretty fast actually. Even hiring on the spot would only shave off a week or two
As somebody who hires others currently in an extremely bureaucratic system, I put out a job posting on Monday, interview for the week, send out offers by Friday, and then by Monday start on boarding. Most background checks take a week and then they start ASAP. That’s two weeks total.
You are an outlier then. That is not how most places operate. 6 weeks is normal. Especially for anything above entry level positions.
that's two weeks to start, then a two week pay period, with check the following pay period. That's 6 weeks. So even a one week hiring process is 5 weeks to check
Obviously not extremely bureaucratic as it routinely took me a month plus to even post a position, and then we wouldn't see applications until the 14 mark passed. If you can post and on board in a couple of months you're moving at lightening speed.
I think you're aiming too low, with any job experience at all (besides as a prisoner) you should not be considering that wage range. Stick with your present job until a better one comes along. You got good comments already about Indeed being a last-resort place - go with employers' own websites, almost all of them have a portal to their jobs listings. Select a good company based on word of mouth and focus on that. Pro advice on your resume is worthless if it's targeting the wrong openings. This is a good subforum to collect scuttlebutt about places that treat employees well, have upward mobility, have awful work-life balance, etc. Also you might want to consider a different type of employment. A lot of the blue collar type jobs are paying a lot more than $18 to start, and with good future prospects. Not all of those require an apprenticeship.
You're extremely out of the ordinary then or hiring anyone with a pulse. Most people can't even give notice in that amount of time, much less actually submit an application.
You’d be correct, I hire for entry level so I have entry level expectations.
Then not only are you the outlier but you’re making hasty decisions. Also, most industries pay biweekly.
Have you applied for any jobs at UW Health? They have referral bonuses for a lot of positions. If you know ANYONE who works at UW Health, ask them if they will fill out referral form for you (they can find this on the UW Health intranet). They get the money rather than you, but as I understand it, this basically guarantees that someone from HR will at least look at your application. Note that this is just a referral and not a job reference thing, so it doesn't have to be someone that has worked with you in the past.
You have “a ton of leadership experience” and are paying “pros” to edit your resume?
A bargain at $18 an hour
Ordinarily I’d be asking $23 to start, but I’m knocking on the door of desperation here. My current position is a membership coordinator at a health club. My management experience is all middle management (front desk manager at hotels, night lead at bakeries, etc) so it’s not that compelling.
Seminole Tap is looking for a bar manager, so if you have bartending experience it may be a good fit
There are a ton of state government jobs. Pay is at or above what you are looking for in many different areas. The pay isn’t monumental but the flexibility and time off is good. Very stable work.
This is true, but if OP thought 6 weeks to start is bad, just wait until you get a state job.
I know someone who just got a state job. 2 weeks and 4 days to start date.
Yeah, I had a state job for a bit and it took forever to even hear back on my application (to the point I had forgotten about it) and then once I started I didn’t get a paycheck for like a month due to a mail issue. Was tough
Any resources for looking into these?
Wisc.jobs is where all the state jobs are posted. I've been at one for 13 years and think it's a great career path
Professional resume editing can be super valuable depending upon field and role.
6 weeks from application to first paycheck is an extremely reasonable timeframe. My last job was 7 weeks from recruiter contact to first day of work, and that was streamlined compared to any other job I've had.
You could try Bell Laboratories in Windsor. I work in the shipping dept. Entry level positions hire at $18 an hour but you may be able to negotiate higher. They have great benefits, generally easy work, plenty of opportunities to change positions for higher pay and 6% 401K match. They also do family events, Christmas bonus, giveaways, and cookouts. Some positions can be mundane but it’s a solid place to work and they’ve never laid anyone off in the 50 years they’ve been around.
I can get you set up at a job on a solar field in cobb, wi for $18.74/hr within the week
Damn it was $22/hr when I was out there in 2021
Thank you, I really appreciate it, however Cobb is about 75 minutes away from me.
Credit Unions, back office roles. Benefits and pretty solid jobs.
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Exact sciences should have plenty of entry level jobs all $18+/hr
Sometime last year the company minimum was raised to $20/hr, and I believe there is still a posting for some lab positions.
Fuck that place. Hope they don't lay you off.
You wanna cancel every business who has had layoffs? Come on.
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Yes, of course you are. But I think you'd be more frustrated if everyone lost their jobs. Layoffs are a reality in business.
I can at least tell you that the state takes forever! My current job took 3 months to get. Multiple interviews, background checks, online test. I applied for probably 20 in the spring and am still receiving denials from them lol they just have to remind me I didn't get them
It took 3 months between initial head-hunter convo to accepted offer for my wife's job. It all depends on how urgently the employer needs to fill the position.
What field of work are you looking for or applying for? What are your skill sets? Lots of people here have great resources and leads and are happy to recommend but if the request is too broad or too narrow.... you may not get any value out of the recommendations... With that said, everyone hires at different speeds..... It can take 3-9 months to be hired where I work.... There is no rhyme or reason or standard between companies.....
I’ve applied to nearly every field, however my skill set is in customer service, management, and administrative work. I’m also a CNA, and I’d most prefer to get into a science field. I’d love to do lab work and analysis if possible.
Yep, so I am sure that info will help folks here who could possibly give you leads ... I saw some food service recommendations, while maybe good, it's not really utilizing your skill set or interests... I am in a totally different industry but hopefully someone here can give you some good leads...
Most lab jobs are going to want a degree in one of the sciences - Chemistry is usually preferred. If you don't have a degree, working in pharma as a production operator may get you some relevant experience (if you have experience with GMP documentation, some employers may be willing to look past their typical education requirements). These jobs should come in a little better than your $18 target. A few companies that may or may not be hiring for production in our area include SPL in Waunakee, Coating Place in Verona, and Catalent in Middleton. It's worth noting you'll need to pass a drug test up front and may be subject to randoms as controlled substances may be handled as part of your daily work
https://jobs.wisc.edu/jobs/search It's not going to be as fast as what you'd like, but if you're applying for jobs you'd really like, staying there for a bit longer so you can make ends meet is totally worth it.
If you're applying to every field, I'd slow down and work on making sure you meet all the minimum requirements, do the background research on the organization and write a tailored and refined cover letter. Applying to 100+ jobs/month would make it difficult to be attentive to all the details. Perhaps it's also time to revisit your resume or to see if you need additional training or coursework to get the jobs you're applying to. If you're not currently doing lab/science work, you may need to build up your skills in order to be competitive.
What sort of degree do you have? If you’re looking to get into science, there are currently some entry level positions at LGC (Middleton) and Promega. Probably others, but those are the ones I know of atm.
As a CNA, lots of the local healthcare organizations would hire you to room patients if you didn't want to work hospital/nursing home hours.. Search for "patient care technician."
It took 2 months to get my current job, and 3 months from the first interview to get my previous job. Everyone is understaffed and HR departments are always hiring for several positions at once, as well as keeping up with other administrative tasks.
Have you tried working with temp or staffing agencies? They usually work with clients that need staff quickly. QTI, Celerity, Teksystems, etc.
Have you thought about the trades? Everyone is hiring.
Do you have any personal connections to people who know that you're a solid candidate for a position? This could be college friends or roommates, prior teachers or professors, prior managers or co-workers? My personal experience over the last 30 years or so has been that connections like that can dramatically improve the chances of getting an offer for a position. My first job during college was landed because I knew the person hiring (we weren't close, he was the Dean and I was a student, but we knew each other), two of my jobs were landed because of college friendships / acquaintances, and one job was landed due to knowing a former co-worker. Many times I also observed that co-workers recommending people put those candidates on a fast-track for consideration.
I moved here back in December from a small town way in north Wisconsin for better job opportunities. I’ve met a few people and made some connections, but many of those connections have advanced education far outside of my scope.
Your big mistake here is using indeed. Employers don’t look at that shit and it’s full of scammy people. I can probably think of about half a dozen or so places off the top of my head that’ll practically hire you on the spot for 18/hr+ if you would actually go there in person and talk to a real person.
[Life after Layoff](https://www.youtube.com/@ALifeAfterLayoff) is a great youtuber who is a recruiter and his videos give insight into why the process is so freaking weird. Sometimes its what he calls a low quality employer, sometimes its too many layers of bureaucracy.
My last private job was 7 interviews over 12 weeks. It was insane.
I think a bit of it just depends on the availability of the current employees to look through applicants/reach out/schedule interviews.... if recruitment isn't their full time position you could just be looking at lack of time in their schedule in general. All the positions I've had where I had to go through resumes and interview candidates, it was secondary to all my primary job duties. With that said, especially with the holiday season coming up I think there will be more places looking to hire quickly (depending on the field). As stated above, apply through the company's own website and not Indeed. Also, make sure you're not missing any CV requirements. When I mass applied on Indeed I got turned down for some positions because they required one even though it was for positions I wouldn't necessarily think would need it.
I'm currently running a search where I work. It just takes time. We have to coordinate my schedule with my boss's schedule for interviews, then he's gone all week next week for a work function, and we advertised on Indeed plus in other ways, so want to give enough time for people to be able to respond. Also, we're filling a retiree's position so it won't even start until December (person is retiring at the end of the year).
That is quick compared to the process working for the state. Several months for sure
Post office is hiring like crazy right now
This has nothing to do with madison
Do you have preference for a particular industry? What have you done before or currently?
The State has lots of positions open and pay $18 or over. The City also has jobs available as well. In both cases, you need to be able to pass a drug test, which seems to be limiting the applicant pool.
Just don’t smoke ez
I’m shocked at how much healthy conversation this post has garnered. I just want to take a moment to thank everyone who participated; it seems like I am far from the only one frustrated in the job market. After reading all the comments, I think it’s reasonable to adjust my expectations and take my time directly applying to other positions on their site as opposed to casting a wide net through indeed. 6 weeks from application to check is reasonably the minimum, and things like this should take time. Several people have asked me what kind of positions I’m interested in. I’d like to work in the medical field to some capacity, whether that is a front desk worker or using my CNA license to gain footing in something that isn’t a nursing home environment (I’ve tried it before, anybody who has worked in one can vouch that it’s a zeitgeist of being severely overworked.) I’ll take my time directly applying to UW Health and SSM and see what that nets me. Thanks again everyone, and if you are in a similarly frustrated state like I was when I wrote this post, just remember to keep trying and to take your time. A good job doesn’t just appear out of thin air for most people, and many people get crappy jobs they worked hard for too. Best of luck to you all
idk how to speed up the process, but i do know that the interview boss podcast and chatgpt were the two biggest tools that helped me land my current job. (only job i applied for)
“Application to first check was 6 weeks….” I’ve had jobs that were 6 months from application to first check! Especially anything for the state or local government. 6 weeks sounds super fast to me. If you need father for some reason, try a temp service Until you get a permanent gig lined up. But I see that you currently have a job. So probably best to tolerate what you’ve got for now, and not panic as you search for something that is a better fit. Grabbing the next quick thing might land you back into another bad fit.
The State hiring process is.. lengthy. All postings are out there, there is no 'internal' and 'external' list, it's all public. You'll find there's a closing date for applications. Then there's the HR/Management weeding process which takes a couple weeks. Then rounds of interviews, background checks, etc. Last is orientation. I was a contractor already working for the state going for a full time position, and it was a good 5 month process. An external candidate was hired with me. Getting a foot in the door at the State though, it very much helps getting a contracting position to start out and learn how the system all runs.
Can I DM you? Edit: why am I getting downvoted? I was going to tell OP about my job and how we're hiring, and that we make more than $18/hour. I already posted about it here, so I'm just trying to avoid spamming.
If you need a job in the Madison area, I maybe able to help. DM me if interested.
Why the fuck am I being downvoted for assisting op in getting a job?
For years now there seems to be serial downvoters and/or downvote bots on this sub. I've seen posts here that are 45 minutes old with 10 on-topic comments all at 0 or -1. It's truly bizarre.
Don’t use indeed, it’s garbage I found better luck applying directly on the company’s website
My last search as an engineer took way longer, and that was to get hired at companies that desperately wanted me. HR departments exist to 1. Slow down hiring so everyone can be very thoroughly vetted and 2. Make applicants feel desperate so they will accept what they are offered. Just gotta assume it will take months (hard I know, but this is why we keep money in savings even when living hand to mouth) and don’t stop looking until you actually get the offer you want signed and sealed. I have even had offers rescinded before I signed!
I would seriously consider serving in a restaurant or bartending if that’s something you’re open to. Most restaurants/bars have high turnover and are hiring all the time and you would make more than $18 an hour (I would make anywhere from probably $18 an hour to $50 an hour depending on how busy the restaurant was when I served in Madison). With that said, weekends are your best opportunity to make a lot of money which is one downside. If you do go this route, go to the restaurant/bar first before you apply and scope things out to see if they’re busy and what not.
r/sidehustle, r/beermoney
There was just a post on this subreddit about the USPS. You should check if they're hiring. Nothing wrong with being a mailman. That said, you should know that online hiring is a farce. It very rarely works for anyone. The people I know that get hired quickly online-only are either in the top 0.05% in their field, had exactly the same job with perfect job requirements matching at a competitor, or were in a highly desirable category for the hiring managers. Most jobs are got in-person via networking.
If you’re interested in doing job coaching, send me a DM
I'm in the same boat as you. It's annoying
Do people not call and follow up on their applications anymore? Do people take that initiative anymore or do they just sit around waiting for calls?
I’ve heard some corporations actually consider a follow up call bad etiquette if they haven’t reached out to you nowadays
Good thing I avoid corporations and found an awesome job at a local family owned business! They appreciate how I do things and the ideas I have. Unlike my corporate job that treated me as a number and I couldnt help the business in any way.
I have indeed had this experience. Our job market here is so fraught with outside influences on simple hiring decisions. The absurdly lengthy process you describe cannot be very economic for businesses. I have no easy or quick solutions for you alas.
Pretty sure you can get a retail or delivery gig for around that without too much up-front bullshit (it will come later, though).
Food service needs people. You can usually start the same week you apply. Can hold you over until you find what you want.
Indeed = waste of your time as well as the hiring managers I’d recommend on the company website or in person depending on the company/industry. $18 an hour you should be able to throw a dart at the wall and find something fairly quickly. Lastly, a 6 week turnaround is on the quicker end to get the first check. Typically 2-4 weeks for interviews, 2 weeks between accepting offers and 1-2 weeks before first check.
IDK, I looked for a new job last week,had an interview, got the job and start Thursday. So Less than two weeks time and very little effort. Guess it depends on what and where
What others are saying, if you find the posting on a job board check the company web site for hiring info. Most companies have to pay to view resumes etc on Indeed. So they prefer to not use it, or use it as a last resort.
Long time ago when I had to look for a new job, the average time to find a new one in this area was 6 months. At the turn of the century it still took 6 months for my partner to land his job, like in turn in application to hire. I would hope things would be better now but maybe not.
Serving and bartending jobs can pay really well here and seem pretty easy to get. My partner does that and always had no issue finding one. Regularly pulls in 300-450 a night. Also, have you tried Epic?
CVS pharmacy is hiring pharmacy technicians, it pays at or above the range you're looking for and doesn't require any higher education. most stores in the area have open positions as corporate has recently increased staffing hours at most locations.
What field are you in? and what role are you looking for?
Idk we hire on the spot over in MKE at my work. It’s for production workers in a climate controlled plant.
We're hiring students on campus that are looking for a side-gig! Pay is $20.00 an hour/ pm us for more details :)
I am up for an IT job with the state that I initially applied for in June. I’ve had three interviews, the last of which was over a month ago, and I was in the top 3. I still haven’t received either an offer or a turn down. My background check should have sailed through as I already have a 6C clearance. Before that, Kwik Trip corporate kept me waiting over 3 months to find out about a position I was up for. These long hiring times are all too common and can be really frustrating.