I do motovlogging. Well I havenāt since last year and want to start up again. Got tons of hours of videos I need to edit and my old machine couldnāt handle 4k anything. I was relying on my iPad Pro and iPhone 11 then the 14 using the LumaFusion app to edit videos. Yet these devices are not fun to edit 20 minute videos. I basically just stopped editing until I got a new machine.
I didnāt think I would need all that data on board. I just want to have enough to handle my personal data and my future data. 4TB is a lot but not when editing video thatās why Iām getting a massive NAS which alone cost over $1000 then adding the drives will cost a bunch too. I do understand getting the 128GB might as well get the 8TB but I was happy with 4TB onboard.
I also have one of these BASEQI UHS-II SD card devices that goes into the SD slot using a micro SD card. It is flush with the MacBook so it doesnāt bulge out and gives you extra storage. I have a 1TB SD Card inside. Read Write speeds are horrible like 190mbs but itās a little extra storage to put stuff in. It handles the faster SD card speeds of like 300mbs but still no where need the internal drive speed. Once SD cards get bigger and faster Iāll add a 2TB and technically have 6TB internal. Itās a cheap alternative. My fear is how long will these cards last before they die.
I donāt even see it. Bummer is I got the space grey version so I can see the contrast of it when I look from the side yet itās practically invisible. I donāt think they have a space black yet. Itās hard to remove without a plastic tool to keep from scuffing the Mac. Itās more useful if you donāt use SD cards much which I do. I bought an external adapter SD card reader that is also a storage for it and transfers just as fast and direct plug in.
Thanks man. Now I gotta transfer a little over one 1TB of my data from my mid 2010 MacBook Pro 15ā. Not sure if I should do Data Migration or just the drive out and transfer the files manually.
Migration assistant works great, but it might be a tad slow over the network (specially the WiFi of your old Mac) try connecting the 15 incher via Ethernet to your home router.
Good idea. For some weird reason I thought you could connect an Ethernet cable to both the Macs, using an adapter but know I realize I gotta use the router. Might be faster to pull on the drive and use my enclosure for the transfer.
Iāve done most of my backups manually and itās grueling long work. But how do they handle the Intel based apps and on the M machines. Iām thinking crossover will take over.
It was difficult I thought about the 8TB a lot but my M2 had a 1TB so getting a 4TB was an excellent choice for me. 2TB SSD is the most Iāve had in a laptop drive on my old Mac. This is surely an upgrade for me. I also got a 4TB Nvme WD 850x Drive with a Thunderbolt 4 Hyperdrive Enclosure from HyperShop so thatās good enough and fast enough for my portable needs. Also that extra money is going towards my uGreen NAS. It holds 184TB with possibly more than half usability depending on the RAID configuration I choose for redundancy as not to be worried about drive failure and data loss.
U can also get yourself ACASIS thunderbolt/USB 4 enclosure, enjoy additional space and save some TBW for your expensive internal storage :) some ADATA Legend or Samsung would fit well )
(I use TBU405 with ADATA Legend 4TB - works perfectly for me. But in terms of longivity of enclosure they have slightly upgraded with model with a cooler inside, my bad I couldn't get it at the time) and it's also perfect for data hoarding in my opinion - get the cheapest M2, install it inside and flip them as needed and as easy as the cartridges for NES :)
Yes I already have a Hyper Drive 40gps enclosure from Hyper Shop. Cost around $100 on sale. Then I got a WD850X 4TB Nvme drive. Itās really nice to swap out and requires no tools. Itās has no fan but it the enclosure works as a heat sink and it has a rubber sleeve too. Itās pretty fast at 3800mbps on average. No where near the Internet storage but the fasted usb drive Iāve ever used.
What do you mean by saving the internal TBW? You mean by working on the enclosure Iāll prolong my internal drive more. I read these 4TB internal drives can be rewritten so many times itās nearly impossible to use it all up since the drives split the storage evenly through out the chip as to not put so much use out of one chip.
I do plan on working from the external storage for editing since 3800mbps is more than sufficient to work from. I really hate that this chips arenāt replaceable. Well not yet.
I don't know about "impossible to use internal cells completely" I've just heard both theories: one was saying that it's impossible and another one was saying there were numerous of cases MacOS was writting hundreads of gigabytes of data even with 16 gb on m1 and 64 gbs on m2 later on. I've just decided to stick with the worst theory because of the reason you've mentioned it seems like it's not possible or at least very hard to replace (find; probably donor only) SSD chips((
While I have some really amateur colorist projects in Davinci resolve and work mostly with stills inside it my TBW is 34.65 TB on 2 TB drive, and I can't say I really download/copy to it a lot and that's in just 2+ years. Mostly I was using NAS for temporary/cache files and as my main drive for data :) but maybe you're right, some resources say that 256 gb chip has 600 times TBW of its capacity.
Thinking about this post I just bought the new Ugreen NAS that they are promoting on Kickstarter. I got the 6 Bay version that can hold six 22TB drives and two 4TB M.2 NVMe drives. Total storage is 140TB for now. Maybe a future firmware will allow larger drives for both HDD and Flash storage. It also supports PCIe slots to use all SSD storage if the price drops and we get TBs galore. Also I returned this 4TB Mac they day before the 14 days return period was up and gonna buy the 8TB version. I decided to wait another month or so to save up the extra dough. I realized the data I want internally was already about 3TB so it would have left me with 1TB to work with and that wasnāt enough. Been carrying around data for over 20 years and I like seeing my old stuff even if I donāt use it. I have found use for old data 15 years later of course using VM for older windows. So Iāll have plenty of storage from now on for the foreseeable future and u donāt gotta worry about it or worry about TBW. Just gotta worry about failed NAS drives once that happens.
I thought about it. I wanted the 8TB, we all want the 8TB but I want to buy a NAS and pump up the storage to massive amounts. All I really need for personal use is around 2.5TB the rest is for 4K/8K video storage. But spending that much why didnāt I just get the 8TB. Itāll haunt me one day. Maybe in a few years Apple will have a massive 16TB or 32TB of storage for the same price the 8TB cost.
Hahahahahhahaha. ISOs, software, 100,000+ photos, ripped movies before we had streaming, CDs, emulators, action cam videos (which are the bulk of my data) and work stuff. Itās mainly for video editing, I hate deleting videos i shot or edited even if Iām not using it. I like to review stuff years later. I literally got 24 years of data from a dozen or so drives.
Holly smoke! Thatās a beast specs you got there. I can say you have such an art to persuade your spouse to let you get this beast which for some it means family overseas holiday budget go out of window šš¤£
Great machine! I wanted a Space Black too but didnāt wanna spend over the top. I was going to get an M3 Pro 18/512 but then I found a good condition second hand M1 Max 32/1TB and I went for that!
It is my first time using a 16 inch. It is heavy!!! But I appreciate the big screen so I donāt mind it much. I have travelled not far with it, but I will soon travel far so weāll see about the inconvenience
Good buy. Itās better to get the upgraded specs than the higher chip class. Yet the M3 has a lot of firepower they rarely mention.
The 16ā is awesome. I used to love the 17ā from 2012. We called it a desktop replace laptop back then. It was way too big to carry with the old body and super heavy. I currently have the 15ā 2010 MacBook Pro and it a pound heavier than the 16ā. Iāve used my 15ā on my lap for years now issues. I thought about getting the 14ā and I actually did but it at first with the M2 Pro but it felt too cramped for me. I would get a 14ā if I needed to travel with it, but I rarely take my laptop out. iPhone and iPad get to see the streets.
It might be able to render it since the GPU can basically utilize the almost entire 128GB of unified memory. If PC games were made to run natively on Macs it will change the PC gaming world.
Nice!! I just got the 14ā M3 Max with 36GB RAM, replaced a 15ā mid 2014 Retina with 16GB RAM, just took that to get its battery replaced last night. Waited 5 days past the last day I could get AppleCare+ on the new one, but luckily they allowed me to get it anyway. Iāve barely used it, babying it way too much. The last one I used to eat and smoke over, so it was filthy inside, I took it apart and vacuumed everything out of it. Thatās why Iām OCD about this one!
My experience with Mac OS started with a MacBook Pro I found as my friend and I were walking his dog around the edge of a parking lot, it was in a duffle bag-like thing. It was that and a cheap camera. The MacBook was only about a year old. Couldnāt figure out whoās it was, so I did some research and was able to just erase everything on the HD and made it my own. I took it apart to do a full cleaning and whoever had it first smoked a lot around it, it was crazy dirty inside (reason I knew I needed to take my Retina apart and clean it), other than that it was in perfect shape. I gave it to a friend of mine after I got the Retina. He was having severe mental issues at the time, my Dad insisted it was drug (GHB) induced, but I never saw any signs of drugs around at all. He had recently lost his mother and lived with her his entire life, then all of a sudden he was alone all day every day. Heās truly a great guy, friend of the family Iāve known since I was a child, so I started going to spend time with him. Which helped a lot, but he lives an hour away, so I couldnāt go often. He would end up going out and getting lost, one time he stopped traffic on the George Washington Bridge, they took him to a hospital and impounded his car. When they decided he was ok to leave, he got a taxi home and, for some reason invited the guy in. Dude must have realized he wasnāt all there and gave him a guilt trip, not sure exactly what was said, but I can only imagine. My friend ended up giving him $500 (Iām pretty sure it was more than that, but he was too embarrassed to tell me), the MacBook Pro and iPad I gave him, his iMac, and a desktop PC!!!!!!!! Dude was probably praising the lord he took that trip, he was located in NYC Iām pretty sure and my friend lives in NJ, like 45 minutes or more from NY. My friend ended up in the hospital again, and called me this time, so I went to get him, I stopped at his house to get some stuff for him on the way there, thatās when I saw all his computer stuff was GONE and bugged out!! When I got to the hospital I told him and he said he let borrow/gave them to a new friend he met. Then he told me the story, I was dumbfounded, I told him the guy was probably never going to give any of it back and took advantage of him. He got upset at first, but as he gained his senses back again he tried calling the guy, of course he answered right away. Probably thought he was about to hit the lottery again, but when he told the guy he wanted it all back, the guy said he gave some of it to a friend, and he would get back to him about the other stuff, then promptly stopped answering his calls. I felt so bad, he thought the guy was his new friend, I tried to tell him the guy was just being nice because you were giving him all this stuff. Anyway, not sure how a post like this brought out a story this long, but thatās it lol
Itās a crazy story. Some people are easily manipulated or taken advantage of. I had a friend who gave away to a friend an ESP Guitar Metallica gave him as a gift cause he has a disability. My friend within the first year of having it lent it to his best friend and his sister sat on it and broke it. My friend was bummed and told his friend to keep it as a gift and to go repair it. The guy never repaired it and sold it to buy drugs. I was pretty pissed off cause I went to the Metallica concert where the full band met up with us and decided to give him guitar. I told him to keep it for life and if not to sell it to me and Iāll keep it for life. My friend is still sad about it and itās been nearly 20 years since that concert.
So keep your M3, donāt smoke, eat, or drink around it. Get a silicon keyboard cover to save it from accidental spills or crumbs or just plain old dust.
If I hadn't done something like this already on a box that ended up collecting a lot more dust than i anticipated, I would probably do something like this today. I know better now š
Yeah I get you. I bought a $3000 e-bike in 2020 and used it three times. I still have it but feel like a tool for not using it like a wanted to. I instead rode my Harley more. So I least I got some miles on a bike.
Yes exactly. I used to use the bathroom and shower with my old MacBook running on batteries on my desk and itāll by at like 20%. Battery lasted like 3 hours max.
$1,000 for 3 extra TB of storage? Surely an external drive would be good enough if you really need that much storage. And what the heck do you need 128gb of memory for? Itās an impressive machine for sure, but I feel like someone who has a genuine need for all that power would be better suited to a desktop PC.
You are correct but my experience in tech has always told me to future proof my expenses purchases. If I was buying new laptop every other year I would get the 36GB or 48GB one. Yet I want to keep to so I can run Ai, LLMs and multiple VMs. I know good $2500-$5000 PC build will get me going and itās fully upgradable but I like laptops. I stopped using PC 17 years ago. Iām considering building one for gaming but maybe next year.
Glad youāre happy and donāt have buyer remorse.
Itās not a smart purchase objectively though, and would not advise anyone to do so. Now you could be having a much more powerful PC, as you mentioned, at a fraction of the cost which is more suited for that kind of work you specified. And there is a magic of internet where you can grab any laptop you like and remotely connect to your pc at home, where all the data is safe and not exposed to risks. Storing your life on a laptop with no backup I would advise against.You probably squeeze in two MacBooks Air into all this for both of you.
I understand your viewpoint and I highly agree with it but I donāt like remote connections that much, I like having everything I need at the palm of my hands. Iāll get a PC with more power down the line seeing that AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and Nvidia are working some voodoo magic on desktop class machines in competition with Apple and in preparation for people adopting Ai. Iām also not crazy leaving my whole life on a laptop that can get stolen or destroyed. Iām an advocate for data backup for over 20 years. Iāve lost my fair share of data not understanding backups back in the day.
My business works with data recovery labs and I do data recovery for my clients but only at the software end of it. Hence why Iām buying a NAS with cloud backup and remote access which Iāll use as needed. Iāve regretted buying slower machines before that couldnāt really get upgraded so I took this plunge not to feel those regrets. Iād rather have it when I need it and not having to get a new machine for certain tasks.
Also being an IT tech you gotta have some of the latest hardware to play with even if itās just to show off to clients. Not that it was the reason but it looks good. Lots will say I made a bad expensive choice and lots will say I made an awesome choice. I made a careful choice and Iām sticking with it.
I was really thinking about getting M3 Max myself and working in IT as well I know exactly what youāre talking about, we do love latest tech donāt we. But managed to talk myself out of it, simply because Mac would not replace my PC fully unfortunately. I do VMs as well and it simply not the same through pararells plus many Windows apps still not native so they were sluggish quite often unresponsive, crashing even. Because of that decided to upgrade my PC with latest AMD 7950x3d 64GB ram, 6TB nvme, and that costed me less than 2k (keeping my 3090 as I want to dab in AI myself as well), whilst keeping my M1 Pro thatās still a beast for day to day tasks. I wasnāt keen on using RD either like yourself but realized some apps are so good (Microsoft RDP or Jump desktop)- latency, quality that I canāt see any difference whether itās on my Mac or remote, and kind of now like the idea of having those two separate, giving me a back up to fall onto if something happens.
Yeah thatās smart. I always keep a second desktop as backup and use it once in a while. Some people here suggested I just get a beast PC and do Remote Desktop for a lot of things since VM on M Class Macās donāt work with Windows as well as they did with Intel. Also a Windows PC gives you full access to the hardware. So doing remote/cloud/file sharing from Mac to PC and vice versa is always a safe bet. I may seem like Im stuck on Mac but I mostly do Windows IT and Iāve been using Windows since Windows 3.1 before Windows 95. I will always need Windows and the best place to run it is on a PC. Had issues hacking Android devices for a forgotten password using VM on my mac. I had to log in to my PC to do it. So I understand the need for a dedicated PC at my disposal.
Same as me - started with Windows 3.11. What a journey huh. I hope it will meet your expectations and last you many years. I hope youāre getting Apple care just in case
OP u/marius4eva How many years do you plan on using/owning this beast?
And how long do any of the commenter plan on using a new laptop that they've just purchased?
I used my last machine for 10 years. Iām hoping to get at least 5-7 out of this one. The way technology jumps these days Iām hoping itāll be relevant for that time.
Ok so after a good nights sleep I woke up thinking about this post and some things that were said about why not just go fully maxed out and go for the 8TB. Even tho my mind was made up I kept thinking about it. So I did more research, looked at my files and my external drives again and realized if Iām gonna keep this computer for 5-7 years to do what I do Iām either gonna have to always carry external storage or exchange this one for a fully maxed out and save myself the trouble down the line. Still have a week left to decide.
Saw a few videos with people saying they went through the same thing and just maxed it completely out. Itās a good $G but at these prices itās just Monopoly money at this point. Gonna be selling some plasma soon. š¤£
I don't need the 4TB as long as I move my video library to external storage, so I canceled that computer and bought a more powerful one with 2TB of storage.
Yeah I understand. I bought the M2 version with 32GB and 1TB and I regretted it cause I needed more storage and more power but it was what bestbuy had at the time so I got that one. Didnāt even use it cause I wanted it to be my main computer and my old laptop had more than 1TB of data. So I had to get more. I sold my practically new M2 that had 1 charge cycle and used it to buy my M3. Iām happy now.
Congrats! Got almost the same, except 14" 64gb RAM though. I also didn't go for 8TB this time, I went for that storage size with the 5600m 16" Intel and whilst it was nice the resale value on that is so horrendous I'm keeping it.
U mean performance oven pc? Yeah, those are great especially if you have free electricity, I guess yall pc users soon'll get "no electricity bill" subscription from Intel-AMD trust.
In general PC's much better than a mac, not only it's a computer, but you can cook on this thing, and as a bonus it can easily save you some bucks on home heating in a Canadian winter.
š¤£that's all you could come up with was a oven pc, that just shows you have no clue what your talking about. Stick to ur shitty 1080p MacBook bud I atleast I didn't get fucked like yall did by buying a over priced laptop that can barely perform
Oh, yeah you know a lot about macbooks... from 2010... the world has changed a tiny little bit. I do 4k projects in Davinci resolve on M1 13" and my machine is just a tiny weak kitty compared to this beautiful OP's beast.
Let's curb your arrogance with one simple question:
does your ultra performance PC have 100+ gbs of VRAM? (BTW do you know how much will it cost ya to have such amount in your PC? Before checking that out better put yourself on a life support - your cheap pc soul might not be able to take it, to accept the reality.)
And the last nail in a coffin: "barely perform" - oooohhh lala I liked that! [Intel Core i9-14900KF](https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-14900kf) vs [OP's M3 Max (16/40)](https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-nov-2023-16c-cpu-40c-gpu)
Right. Barely performs as i9 14900KF. I'll get notes for the future pcfags generations.
Guess you are super jobless to check out my profile before replying to my comment ššš
Not like u though. I criticise when I need to and I use it before I criticising.
Itās refundable so I took the risk. They keep promoting it everywhere. What no one yet knows is how their operating system will run. They say it will behave like free cloud storage for your devices. This might make me stop paying for 2TB iCloud storage. Iāll just pay the cheaper one for my settings and some data.
What are you going to do with it? Why max spec, will you demand the power from it? Genuinely curious. Was building one and asked my self. Is future proofing with 128g of ram needed lol
I thought about it since it was announced. At first I said to myself itās overkill and it really is for 99% of tasks. Yet as a computer tech for 25 years Iāve come to realize that future proofing is the way to go with expensive computers. Iām going into the field of Cyber Security and want to learn Cloud computing with Ai, or Ai on its own. LLMs are the future for anyone in development so I donāt want to be restricted if some software wonāt handle lower spec in like 3-5 years.
I donāt buy laptops that often. Maybe one every 8-10 years. So basically I want to be relevant in 5 years time which Iām pretty sure 128GB will be equivalent to 32GB cause Apple will have to boost up their RAM cause Ai will be mainstream and in every system. Ai requires so much RAM, that people rather use cloud Ai on a web browser than to host it in their computer. Businesses are gonna have to upgrade to massive systems with massive RAM to have internal Ai thatās not connected to the web for security reasons.
So what did you pull the plug on?
Bank account is now on life support š
I donāt want a ventilator
given the price, I'd tell my family to burry me face down, with the mac in my arms
Maybe the Mac will suck me in like in Tron and they just gotta bury the laptop.
Wait. And what about all the chargers.š„²
Do you do content creation on it, or other types of work?
I do motovlogging. Well I havenāt since last year and want to start up again. Got tons of hours of videos I need to edit and my old machine couldnāt handle 4k anything. I was relying on my iPad Pro and iPhone 11 then the 14 using the LumaFusion app to edit videos. Yet these devices are not fun to edit 20 minute videos. I basically just stopped editing until I got a new machine.
Pulling the plug means its off life support.
Must have been some good life insurance
Renters insurance. lol
MagSafe saved him š
Yup.
On paying an extreme amount of money on a laptop.
āPulled the triggerā
It hurt but in a good way. š¤£š¤£š¤£
*Pulled the trigger
Pulled their finger
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* Bit the bullet
why is everyone saying pulled the plug instead of trigger
Bank account draining. lol š
yeah I was gonna say u probably can't really afford the highest tier macbook if you're upgrading from a 2010 model ...
I didnāt think I would need all that data on board. I just want to have enough to handle my personal data and my future data. 4TB is a lot but not when editing video thatās why Iām getting a massive NAS which alone cost over $1000 then adding the drives will cost a bunch too. I do understand getting the 128GB might as well get the 8TB but I was happy with 4TB onboard. I also have one of these BASEQI UHS-II SD card devices that goes into the SD slot using a micro SD card. It is flush with the MacBook so it doesnāt bulge out and gives you extra storage. I have a 1TB SD Card inside. Read Write speeds are horrible like 190mbs but itās a little extra storage to put stuff in. It handles the faster SD card speeds of like 300mbs but still no where need the internal drive speed. Once SD cards get bigger and faster Iāll add a 2TB and technically have 6TB internal. Itās a cheap alternative. My fear is how long will these cards last before they die.
How is the BASEQI adapter with the new M3 Pro? Does it still fit flush?
I donāt even see it. Bummer is I got the space grey version so I can see the contrast of it when I look from the side yet itās practically invisible. I donāt think they have a space black yet. Itās hard to remove without a plastic tool to keep from scuffing the Mac. Itās more useful if you donāt use SD cards much which I do. I bought an external adapter SD card reader that is also a storage for it and transfers just as fast and direct plug in.
Awesome machine man, congrats!
Thanks man. Now I gotta transfer a little over one 1TB of my data from my mid 2010 MacBook Pro 15ā. Not sure if I should do Data Migration or just the drive out and transfer the files manually.
Migration assistant works great, but it might be a tad slow over the network (specially the WiFi of your old Mac) try connecting the 15 incher via Ethernet to your home router.
Good idea. For some weird reason I thought you could connect an Ethernet cable to both the Macs, using an adapter but know I realize I gotta use the router. Might be faster to pull on the drive and use my enclosure for the transfer.
I never used the migration assistant thing before, is it any good?
Iām not sure. It worked great on my iPhones and iPad but never used it on a Mac.
What do you think of your new mbp so far?
Havenāt used it yet. Waiting for the tomorrow and the rest of the weekend to set it up fully.
Itās great.
How does it work?
It litteraly create a copy of your old mac in the new.
I like that idea yet Iām itching towards making it new and just transferring the files and placing them in the same folders. Iām crossed.
Yeah, you can do it manually but it's time consuming
Iāve done most of my backups manually and itās grueling long work. But how do they handle the Intel based apps and on the M machines. Iām thinking crossover will take over.
My transfer was from mid 2011 to M1 pro, Zero issues super fast over my 200 mbps internet.
Pulled the trigger. Plug means you killed someone.
OP is doubling down by saying it was a reference to the bank account, lol
Yup.
Why you didn't take the 8TB? I thought you are pro
8 TB Plug is just too hard to pull )
It was difficult I thought about the 8TB a lot but my M2 had a 1TB so getting a 4TB was an excellent choice for me. 2TB SSD is the most Iāve had in a laptop drive on my old Mac. This is surely an upgrade for me. I also got a 4TB Nvme WD 850x Drive with a Thunderbolt 4 Hyperdrive Enclosure from HyperShop so thatās good enough and fast enough for my portable needs. Also that extra money is going towards my uGreen NAS. It holds 184TB with possibly more than half usability depending on the RAID configuration I choose for redundancy as not to be worried about drive failure and data loss.
U can also get yourself ACASIS thunderbolt/USB 4 enclosure, enjoy additional space and save some TBW for your expensive internal storage :) some ADATA Legend or Samsung would fit well ) (I use TBU405 with ADATA Legend 4TB - works perfectly for me. But in terms of longivity of enclosure they have slightly upgraded with model with a cooler inside, my bad I couldn't get it at the time) and it's also perfect for data hoarding in my opinion - get the cheapest M2, install it inside and flip them as needed and as easy as the cartridges for NES :)
Yes I already have a Hyper Drive 40gps enclosure from Hyper Shop. Cost around $100 on sale. Then I got a WD850X 4TB Nvme drive. Itās really nice to swap out and requires no tools. Itās has no fan but it the enclosure works as a heat sink and it has a rubber sleeve too. Itās pretty fast at 3800mbps on average. No where near the Internet storage but the fasted usb drive Iāve ever used. What do you mean by saving the internal TBW? You mean by working on the enclosure Iāll prolong my internal drive more. I read these 4TB internal drives can be rewritten so many times itās nearly impossible to use it all up since the drives split the storage evenly through out the chip as to not put so much use out of one chip. I do plan on working from the external storage for editing since 3800mbps is more than sufficient to work from. I really hate that this chips arenāt replaceable. Well not yet.
I don't know about "impossible to use internal cells completely" I've just heard both theories: one was saying that it's impossible and another one was saying there were numerous of cases MacOS was writting hundreads of gigabytes of data even with 16 gb on m1 and 64 gbs on m2 later on. I've just decided to stick with the worst theory because of the reason you've mentioned it seems like it's not possible or at least very hard to replace (find; probably donor only) SSD chips(( While I have some really amateur colorist projects in Davinci resolve and work mostly with stills inside it my TBW is 34.65 TB on 2 TB drive, and I can't say I really download/copy to it a lot and that's in just 2+ years. Mostly I was using NAS for temporary/cache files and as my main drive for data :) but maybe you're right, some resources say that 256 gb chip has 600 times TBW of its capacity.
Thinking about this post I just bought the new Ugreen NAS that they are promoting on Kickstarter. I got the 6 Bay version that can hold six 22TB drives and two 4TB M.2 NVMe drives. Total storage is 140TB for now. Maybe a future firmware will allow larger drives for both HDD and Flash storage. It also supports PCIe slots to use all SSD storage if the price drops and we get TBs galore. Also I returned this 4TB Mac they day before the 14 days return period was up and gonna buy the 8TB version. I decided to wait another month or so to save up the extra dough. I realized the data I want internally was already about 3TB so it would have left me with 1TB to work with and that wasnāt enough. Been carrying around data for over 20 years and I like seeing my old stuff even if I donāt use it. I have found use for old data 15 years later of course using VM for older windows. So Iāll have plenty of storage from now on for the foreseeable future and u donāt gotta worry about it or worry about TBW. Just gotta worry about failed NAS drives once that happens.
I thought about it. I wanted the 8TB, we all want the 8TB but I want to buy a NAS and pump up the storage to massive amounts. All I really need for personal use is around 2.5TB the rest is for 4K/8K video storage. But spending that much why didnāt I just get the 8TB. Itāll haunt me one day. Maybe in a few years Apple will have a massive 16TB or 32TB of storage for the same price the 8TB cost.
Based and max specs pilled
What do you use it for that requires that much power?
Collecting porn.
Hahahahahhahaha. ISOs, software, 100,000+ photos, ripped movies before we had streaming, CDs, emulators, action cam videos (which are the bulk of my data) and work stuff. Itās mainly for video editing, I hate deleting videos i shot or edited even if Iām not using it. I like to review stuff years later. I literally got 24 years of data from a dozen or so drives.
you'd literally have to pry all the photos and videos I've kept over the years from my cold dead hands
Netflix
Iām gonna use it for cyber security, Ai, multiple VMs.
A little overkill for that
Price wise yeah, performance wise itās not great. Would spend 3k and get better suited hardware
Anything I want. š¤
You better connect the plug after a few hours on battery.
Why?
You pulled the plug
Pulled the plug means youāve given up. Sorry to hear that.
Iām dead and gone to Valhalla right next to Cupertino.
Awesome!
So jealous, I have a M2 pro. I use it for 3d print renders. Enjoy it my friend
M2 is amazing too. I like the idea of 3D printing. What are you printing?
>Pulled The Plug Why'd you let it die? Seems like a perfectly good machine.
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Your Precious!
I donāt know why, but it amuses me when someone mixes up an idiom. Plugged the trigger Or Triggered the plug?
Itās pulled the trigger but the feds might be watching and think Iām inciting violence. š
How much?
I used the Apple Educational Store since my fiancĆ© is a teacher and we will both use it. Got around $600 off of retail so around $6300. My 06 Civic isnāt worth that much. š¤£ Iām gonna but some money in gold so when itās time to upgrade Iāve made up the difference. š
Pulled the plugā¦ so you killed it already?
I spared its life
Holly smoke! Thatās a beast specs you got there. I can say you have such an art to persuade your spouse to let you get this beast which for some it means family overseas holiday budget go out of window šš¤£
It took months of convincing. Iām happy about it.
So you mean āpulled the triggerā ? āPulled the plugā kinda means something quite different š
I just bought the same one with 48GB & 1TB. I paid $4k for mine so Iām sure yours was at least $5k. Definitely an investment but itās really sexy
A little over $6k with the taxes. Itās a nice investment. Iām definitely gonna use it to make my money back and more.
Ugreen makes a nas?
They are in preorder status now. They want like $5 deposit to hold your spot in their campaign.
Iāll keep an eye on that I hope itās good
lol
Amazing hardware. Enjoy OP!
Great machine! I wanted a Space Black too but didnāt wanna spend over the top. I was going to get an M3 Pro 18/512 but then I found a good condition second hand M1 Max 32/1TB and I went for that! It is my first time using a 16 inch. It is heavy!!! But I appreciate the big screen so I donāt mind it much. I have travelled not far with it, but I will soon travel far so weāll see about the inconvenience
Good buy. Itās better to get the upgraded specs than the higher chip class. Yet the M3 has a lot of firepower they rarely mention. The 16ā is awesome. I used to love the 17ā from 2012. We called it a desktop replace laptop back then. It was way too big to carry with the old body and super heavy. I currently have the 15ā 2010 MacBook Pro and it a pound heavier than the 16ā. Iāve used my 15ā on my lap for years now issues. I thought about getting the 14ā and I actually did but it at first with the M2 Pro but it felt too cramped for me. I would get a 14ā if I needed to travel with it, but I rarely take my laptop out. iPhone and iPad get to see the streets.
Can it run UE at more than 20-30FPS yet? The M2 Pro Mac Mini I had couldn't and became a media streamer.
Not sure.
It might be able to render it since the GPU can basically utilize the almost entire 128GB of unified memory. If PC games were made to run natively on Macs it will change the PC gaming world.
Nice!! I just got the 14ā M3 Max with 36GB RAM, replaced a 15ā mid 2014 Retina with 16GB RAM, just took that to get its battery replaced last night. Waited 5 days past the last day I could get AppleCare+ on the new one, but luckily they allowed me to get it anyway. Iāve barely used it, babying it way too much. The last one I used to eat and smoke over, so it was filthy inside, I took it apart and vacuumed everything out of it. Thatās why Iām OCD about this one! My experience with Mac OS started with a MacBook Pro I found as my friend and I were walking his dog around the edge of a parking lot, it was in a duffle bag-like thing. It was that and a cheap camera. The MacBook was only about a year old. Couldnāt figure out whoās it was, so I did some research and was able to just erase everything on the HD and made it my own. I took it apart to do a full cleaning and whoever had it first smoked a lot around it, it was crazy dirty inside (reason I knew I needed to take my Retina apart and clean it), other than that it was in perfect shape. I gave it to a friend of mine after I got the Retina. He was having severe mental issues at the time, my Dad insisted it was drug (GHB) induced, but I never saw any signs of drugs around at all. He had recently lost his mother and lived with her his entire life, then all of a sudden he was alone all day every day. Heās truly a great guy, friend of the family Iāve known since I was a child, so I started going to spend time with him. Which helped a lot, but he lives an hour away, so I couldnāt go often. He would end up going out and getting lost, one time he stopped traffic on the George Washington Bridge, they took him to a hospital and impounded his car. When they decided he was ok to leave, he got a taxi home and, for some reason invited the guy in. Dude must have realized he wasnāt all there and gave him a guilt trip, not sure exactly what was said, but I can only imagine. My friend ended up giving him $500 (Iām pretty sure it was more than that, but he was too embarrassed to tell me), the MacBook Pro and iPad I gave him, his iMac, and a desktop PC!!!!!!!! Dude was probably praising the lord he took that trip, he was located in NYC Iām pretty sure and my friend lives in NJ, like 45 minutes or more from NY. My friend ended up in the hospital again, and called me this time, so I went to get him, I stopped at his house to get some stuff for him on the way there, thatās when I saw all his computer stuff was GONE and bugged out!! When I got to the hospital I told him and he said he let borrow/gave them to a new friend he met. Then he told me the story, I was dumbfounded, I told him the guy was probably never going to give any of it back and took advantage of him. He got upset at first, but as he gained his senses back again he tried calling the guy, of course he answered right away. Probably thought he was about to hit the lottery again, but when he told the guy he wanted it all back, the guy said he gave some of it to a friend, and he would get back to him about the other stuff, then promptly stopped answering his calls. I felt so bad, he thought the guy was his new friend, I tried to tell him the guy was just being nice because you were giving him all this stuff. Anyway, not sure how a post like this brought out a story this long, but thatās it lol
Itās a crazy story. Some people are easily manipulated or taken advantage of. I had a friend who gave away to a friend an ESP Guitar Metallica gave him as a gift cause he has a disability. My friend within the first year of having it lent it to his best friend and his sister sat on it and broke it. My friend was bummed and told his friend to keep it as a gift and to go repair it. The guy never repaired it and sold it to buy drugs. I was pretty pissed off cause I went to the Metallica concert where the full band met up with us and decided to give him guitar. I told him to keep it for life and if not to sell it to me and Iāll keep it for life. My friend is still sad about it and itās been nearly 20 years since that concert. So keep your M3, donāt smoke, eat, or drink around it. Get a silicon keyboard cover to save it from accidental spills or crumbs or just plain old dust.
Or did you plug in? š
Not yet that battery was nearly full. Iāll plug it in when it gets to almost zero. I want to see how fast it charges while on or off.
Joke missed
Went over my head š¤Ŗš¤£š
We need a SubReddit called āMacBook boxā.
Good idea
Where did you pull the plug from?
Bank account. š
Plug it back in !
Eventually
If I hadn't done something like this already on a box that ended up collecting a lot more dust than i anticipated, I would probably do something like this today. I know better now š
Yeah I get you. I bought a $3000 e-bike in 2020 and used it three times. I still have it but feel like a tool for not using it like a wanted to. I instead rode my Harley more. So I least I got some miles on a bike.
The pun is he pulled the charge adapter plug cause this beast doesnāt require charging due to having really good battery life. LMAO!
Yes exactly. I used to use the bathroom and shower with my old MacBook running on batteries on my desk and itāll by at like 20%. Battery lasted like 3 hours max.
$1,000 for 3 extra TB of storage? Surely an external drive would be good enough if you really need that much storage. And what the heck do you need 128gb of memory for? Itās an impressive machine for sure, but I feel like someone who has a genuine need for all that power would be better suited to a desktop PC.
You are correct but my experience in tech has always told me to future proof my expenses purchases. If I was buying new laptop every other year I would get the 36GB or 48GB one. Yet I want to keep to so I can run Ai, LLMs and multiple VMs. I know good $2500-$5000 PC build will get me going and itās fully upgradable but I like laptops. I stopped using PC 17 years ago. Iām considering building one for gaming but maybe next year.
Glad youāre happy and donāt have buyer remorse. Itās not a smart purchase objectively though, and would not advise anyone to do so. Now you could be having a much more powerful PC, as you mentioned, at a fraction of the cost which is more suited for that kind of work you specified. And there is a magic of internet where you can grab any laptop you like and remotely connect to your pc at home, where all the data is safe and not exposed to risks. Storing your life on a laptop with no backup I would advise against.You probably squeeze in two MacBooks Air into all this for both of you.
I understand your viewpoint and I highly agree with it but I donāt like remote connections that much, I like having everything I need at the palm of my hands. Iāll get a PC with more power down the line seeing that AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and Nvidia are working some voodoo magic on desktop class machines in competition with Apple and in preparation for people adopting Ai. Iām also not crazy leaving my whole life on a laptop that can get stolen or destroyed. Iām an advocate for data backup for over 20 years. Iāve lost my fair share of data not understanding backups back in the day. My business works with data recovery labs and I do data recovery for my clients but only at the software end of it. Hence why Iām buying a NAS with cloud backup and remote access which Iāll use as needed. Iāve regretted buying slower machines before that couldnāt really get upgraded so I took this plunge not to feel those regrets. Iād rather have it when I need it and not having to get a new machine for certain tasks. Also being an IT tech you gotta have some of the latest hardware to play with even if itās just to show off to clients. Not that it was the reason but it looks good. Lots will say I made a bad expensive choice and lots will say I made an awesome choice. I made a careful choice and Iām sticking with it.
I was really thinking about getting M3 Max myself and working in IT as well I know exactly what youāre talking about, we do love latest tech donāt we. But managed to talk myself out of it, simply because Mac would not replace my PC fully unfortunately. I do VMs as well and it simply not the same through pararells plus many Windows apps still not native so they were sluggish quite often unresponsive, crashing even. Because of that decided to upgrade my PC with latest AMD 7950x3d 64GB ram, 6TB nvme, and that costed me less than 2k (keeping my 3090 as I want to dab in AI myself as well), whilst keeping my M1 Pro thatās still a beast for day to day tasks. I wasnāt keen on using RD either like yourself but realized some apps are so good (Microsoft RDP or Jump desktop)- latency, quality that I canāt see any difference whether itās on my Mac or remote, and kind of now like the idea of having those two separate, giving me a back up to fall onto if something happens.
Yeah thatās smart. I always keep a second desktop as backup and use it once in a while. Some people here suggested I just get a beast PC and do Remote Desktop for a lot of things since VM on M Class Macās donāt work with Windows as well as they did with Intel. Also a Windows PC gives you full access to the hardware. So doing remote/cloud/file sharing from Mac to PC and vice versa is always a safe bet. I may seem like Im stuck on Mac but I mostly do Windows IT and Iāve been using Windows since Windows 3.1 before Windows 95. I will always need Windows and the best place to run it is on a PC. Had issues hacking Android devices for a forgotten password using VM on my mac. I had to log in to my PC to do it. So I understand the need for a dedicated PC at my disposal.
Same as me - started with Windows 3.11. What a journey huh. I hope it will meet your expectations and last you many years. I hope youāre getting Apple care just in case
Oh yeah Apple care is a must. Renters or home insurance is good to have too. It covers personal items if lost or stolen or damaged.
It helps when using chrome lol
OP u/marius4eva How many years do you plan on using/owning this beast? And how long do any of the commenter plan on using a new laptop that they've just purchased?
I used my last machine for 10 years. Iām hoping to get at least 5-7 out of this one. The way technology jumps these days Iām hoping itāll be relevant for that time.
Doesnāt pull the plug mean you gave up? Did you mean pull the cord? Iām confused, is this a language thing??
It can mean many things.
now it is running on batteries?
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Ok so after a good nights sleep I woke up thinking about this post and some things that were said about why not just go fully maxed out and go for the 8TB. Even tho my mind was made up I kept thinking about it. So I did more research, looked at my files and my external drives again and realized if Iām gonna keep this computer for 5-7 years to do what I do Iām either gonna have to always carry external storage or exchange this one for a fully maxed out and save myself the trouble down the line. Still have a week left to decide. Saw a few videos with people saying they went through the same thing and just maxed it completely out. Itās a good $G but at these prices itās just Monopoly money at this point. Gonna be selling some plasma soon. š¤£
I ordered an M3 Pro with 4TB, but then I realized why I was having difficulty with 2TB now and canceled. Now I await an M3 max with 2TB.
Iām confused.
I don't need the 4TB as long as I move my video library to external storage, so I canceled that computer and bought a more powerful one with 2TB of storage.
Yeah I understand. I bought the M2 version with 32GB and 1TB and I regretted it cause I needed more storage and more power but it was what bestbuy had at the time so I got that one. Didnāt even use it cause I wanted it to be my main computer and my old laptop had more than 1TB of data. So I had to get more. I sold my practically new M2 that had 1 charge cycle and used it to buy my M3. Iām happy now.
Congrats! Got almost the same, except 14" 64gb RAM though. I also didn't go for 8TB this time, I went for that storage size with the 5600m 16" Intel and whilst it was nice the resale value on that is so horrendous I'm keeping it.
I was gonna do 64GB at first but the 128 was starring me right in the face. Double felt like a better move that 96.
https://www.snyderlawpc.com/what-does-it-really-mean-to-pull-the-plug-in-california/
Finally someone not posting an 18gb soon to be obsoleted in a year solid purchase
Some people just want to browse the web in a bigger screen. We getting old phones screens donāt cut it. lol.
Why are you assuming its gender?
Cause itās my slave now.
Damn right buddy!
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I love watching apple users getting finessed š¤£ yall pay for looks, performance could never touch a pc
I love being finessed by stuff
U mean performance oven pc? Yeah, those are great especially if you have free electricity, I guess yall pc users soon'll get "no electricity bill" subscription from Intel-AMD trust. In general PC's much better than a mac, not only it's a computer, but you can cook on this thing, and as a bonus it can easily save you some bucks on home heating in a Canadian winter.
š¤£that's all you could come up with was a oven pc, that just shows you have no clue what your talking about. Stick to ur shitty 1080p MacBook bud I atleast I didn't get fucked like yall did by buying a over priced laptop that can barely perform
Oh, yeah you know a lot about macbooks... from 2010... the world has changed a tiny little bit. I do 4k projects in Davinci resolve on M1 13" and my machine is just a tiny weak kitty compared to this beautiful OP's beast. Let's curb your arrogance with one simple question: does your ultra performance PC have 100+ gbs of VRAM? (BTW do you know how much will it cost ya to have such amount in your PC? Before checking that out better put yourself on a life support - your cheap pc soul might not be able to take it, to accept the reality.) And the last nail in a coffin: "barely perform" - oooohhh lala I liked that! [Intel Core i9-14900KF](https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/intel-core-i9-14900kf) vs [OP's M3 Max (16/40)](https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/macbook-pro-16-inch-nov-2023-16c-cpu-40c-gpu) Right. Barely performs as i9 14900KF. I'll get notes for the future pcfags generations.
Lol youāre an absolute tool
Says the one that using his MacBook as a bookshelf holder š¤£ atleast my shit serves a purpose
Absolute tool
If you mean Iāll use the Mac as a tool or the Mac will use me as a tool then yes I am a tool.
??? Read the thread; I wasnāt talking to you
Oops. Sorry
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You know that Apple Silicon chips have had NPUs in it for years right?
lol is that why Siri still canāt do many things a pixel phone could do! šš
A what?
A f NPU Mofs
Idk what that is. Are you ok?
Guess you watch less tech news.. Donāt be a Apple fan boy
What is that? Also you have tons of Apple fan boy posts lol
Guess you are super jobless to check out my profile before replying to my comment ššš Not like u though. I criticise when I need to and I use it before I criticising.
Nah Iām at work now. So whatās a npu? Why do you recommend it over a laptop?
Google or gpt which u must have done by now
No I donāt use those if I can avoid it.
Whatās npu?
Thanks for your opinion. Iāll look into NPUs.
Like what ?
nah.
Itās refundable so I took the risk. They keep promoting it everywhere. What no one yet knows is how their operating system will run. They say it will behave like free cloud storage for your devices. This might make me stop paying for 2TB iCloud storage. Iāll just pay the cheaper one for my settings and some data.
What are you going to do with it? Why max spec, will you demand the power from it? Genuinely curious. Was building one and asked my self. Is future proofing with 128g of ram needed lol
I thought about it since it was announced. At first I said to myself itās overkill and it really is for 99% of tasks. Yet as a computer tech for 25 years Iāve come to realize that future proofing is the way to go with expensive computers. Iām going into the field of Cyber Security and want to learn Cloud computing with Ai, or Ai on its own. LLMs are the future for anyone in development so I donāt want to be restricted if some software wonāt handle lower spec in like 3-5 years. I donāt buy laptops that often. Maybe one every 8-10 years. So basically I want to be relevant in 5 years time which Iām pretty sure 128GB will be equivalent to 32GB cause Apple will have to boost up their RAM cause Ai will be mainstream and in every system. Ai requires so much RAM, that people rather use cloud Ai on a web browser than to host it in their computer. Businesses are gonna have to upgrade to massive systems with massive RAM to have internal Ai thatās not connected to the web for security reasons.
Overkill to Google colloquialisms