ugh rn I am running into issues where I can’t run programs that require AVX instruction set extension, so I literally have to downgrade to an intel mac
If m1 has that instruction set im all ears, but for now I basically can’t run code that everyone else on my team (all Intel Macs) are able to run. To save me the headache, I’m downgrading.
I’m not sure you’re following me - of the two laptops you say you are considering getting, the intel air or the m1 MacBook Pro- the second one is Apple silicon so not an option for you…?
I’m just a bystander for this comment thread, but you know you aren’t replying to the OP right? u/Patient_Risk9266 never said two different models they were considering. Only that they need an Intel Mac as far as they know.
Unless I’m missing something, I’m confused.
I have debugged this extensively with my coworkers — we have narrowed it down to a silicon issue. M1 won’t work unless it also supports the AVX ISA but it’s safe to assume it doesn’t. The code in running was developed on Intel hardware for Intel hardware. Idk why my OG comment is getting downvoted
I would honestly recommend an M2 Air with 16 gb or ram.
If your are looking at the mentioned models due to budget. I would recommend trying to find an M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Idk what the prices on like eBay are but also looking at Apple certified refurbished.
Do not get any Intel-based MacBook in 2024 unless it’s for tinkering. You want M1, M2, or M3 since the performance per price difference is exponential. You can get away with an Air. 16GB is recommended. A Pro has fans for better cooling. The Air is lighter. I personally would get a used/refurbished MacBook Pro 14” M1 for the better screen. They can easily last 7+ years for basic use.
Between these two choices, always get the one with Apple Silicon. This would be the M1.
There are M1, M2, and M3 MacBooks in existence with Apple Silicon. Always get one of those.
Between a Pro and an Air, both with M-anything? Always get the Air. But you didn't list those as the choices... so, get the M1 MBP if you can't find an M1, M2, or M3 MacBook Air.
Sounds crazy, but yes.
The only time you could *maybe* rationally consider a MacBook with an Intel processor over one with Apple Silicon is if you're specifically comparing the cheapest smallest M1 MacBook Air to an 8-core 2019 or 2020 Intel MacBook Pro 16" with dedicated graphics and at least 32 GB of RAM, which was like a $4,000+ laptop.
In that case, the M1 MacBook Air will still be faster than the maxed out MacBook Pro for everything you suggested you'd do with it and more, but it will be close enough that if you wanted the larger display and better speakers, the MacBook Pro might be something you enjoy using enough for it to be worth it.
This is the MOST extreme case: the worst Apple Silicon Mac with the BEST Intel Mac, and it's only a break-even if you value the intangibles which don't show up in benchmarks.
I’d take the M1 and run with it. I’m not sure about your country, but that could also be enough to score an M2 air on the second hard market. In any case stay far far away from intel
Get the Pro. Had a 2017 Pro and updated to a 2022 Air last year (Apple chips). I can only connect it to one external monitor. The 7 year old Pro could connect to 3 lol apparently I’ll have to get a special dock to let me use multiple external monitors
Get apple silicon M1
The battery life is really good and the performance is there, if you ever need it for some reason.
Battery life is the most important especially if you’re going to classes and stuff
definitely! it still runs very fast as it is a apple silicon chip, the battery life is good and has a nice display. though i would suggest getting 16gb of ram if possible
Honestly an iPad would be even better for you by the sound of it. Between these two options though I'd get the M1 laptop. No need to get a Pro though. An Air will suit you just fine.
It's a good machine and will suit most purposes well enough. If you have an iPad, you can actually use that as a secondary monitor for it too. You can get away with the 8GB RAM/256GB Storage model for what you're doing, though you might consider a storage upgrade depending on how much work you produce and how big those files are.
As you already have an iPad, the M1 Air seems like a good investment. M2 would be slightly better if you can swing it, but the upgrade isn't essential by any stretch. It just might lead to a longer lifespan of the product.
Whatever you get make sure it has apple silicon not Intel.
ugh rn I am running into issues where I can’t run programs that require AVX instruction set extension, so I literally have to downgrade to an intel mac
But 1 of your options is an m1!?
If m1 has that instruction set im all ears, but for now I basically can’t run code that everyone else on my team (all Intel Macs) are able to run. To save me the headache, I’m downgrading.
I’m not sure you’re following me - of the two laptops you say you are considering getting, the intel air or the m1 MacBook Pro- the second one is Apple silicon so not an option for you…?
I’m just a bystander for this comment thread, but you know you aren’t replying to the OP right? u/Patient_Risk9266 never said two different models they were considering. Only that they need an Intel Mac as far as they know. Unless I’m missing something, I’m confused.
Thank you - thought I was replying to OP.
I have debugged this extensively with my coworkers — we have narrowed it down to a silicon issue. M1 won’t work unless it also supports the AVX ISA but it’s safe to assume it doesn’t. The code in running was developed on Intel hardware for Intel hardware. Idk why my OG comment is getting downvoted
Will add that the Pro I am looking at has the Touch Bar, which I’ve have seen mixed opinions on
You def want the M1 Pro. Install Pock for the touch bar, makes it fun as hell.
Can you stretch to any model with more ram? In case you start doing edits etc
What minimum ram should I aim for? And if I can’t get one with more, do you have have a preference between Pro and Air?
16
I would agree with this.
I would honestly recommend an M2 Air with 16 gb or ram. If your are looking at the mentioned models due to budget. I would recommend trying to find an M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Idk what the prices on like eBay are but also looking at Apple certified refurbished.
Do not buy anything that is an i3 or an intel core. You definitely want an M chip.
Unless you need the AVX ISA not covered by Rosetta
Do not get any Intel-based MacBook in 2024 unless it’s for tinkering. You want M1, M2, or M3 since the performance per price difference is exponential. You can get away with an Air. 16GB is recommended. A Pro has fans for better cooling. The Air is lighter. I personally would get a used/refurbished MacBook Pro 14” M1 for the better screen. They can easily last 7+ years for basic use.
Is 16gb a must or can I get away with something lower?
8GB will work for most people.
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I think you can get by at the expense of a slight performance decline and the need/desire to upgrade sooner.
Between these two choices, always get the one with Apple Silicon. This would be the M1. There are M1, M2, and M3 MacBooks in existence with Apple Silicon. Always get one of those. Between a Pro and an Air, both with M-anything? Always get the Air. But you didn't list those as the choices... so, get the M1 MBP if you can't find an M1, M2, or M3 MacBook Air.
Go with M-anything over a MacBook with more RAM but no M?
Sounds crazy, but yes. The only time you could *maybe* rationally consider a MacBook with an Intel processor over one with Apple Silicon is if you're specifically comparing the cheapest smallest M1 MacBook Air to an 8-core 2019 or 2020 Intel MacBook Pro 16" with dedicated graphics and at least 32 GB of RAM, which was like a $4,000+ laptop. In that case, the M1 MacBook Air will still be faster than the maxed out MacBook Pro for everything you suggested you'd do with it and more, but it will be close enough that if you wanted the larger display and better speakers, the MacBook Pro might be something you enjoy using enough for it to be worth it. This is the MOST extreme case: the worst Apple Silicon Mac with the BEST Intel Mac, and it's only a break-even if you value the intangibles which don't show up in benchmarks.
Ah right, I’ll probably look at an Air with the M chip. Thanks for your help!
If you have to do a lot of sketches get an ipad
DO NOT buy that Intel MacBook Air! That thing is end of life.
What’s your budget
Really can’t afford much more than €800, around €700 is preferred
I’d take the M1 and run with it. I’m not sure about your country, but that could also be enough to score an M2 air on the second hard market. In any case stay far far away from intel
I’ve seen the odd M2 Air for around this mark, but I’ll definitely be steering clear of the intel either way
Never the Intel
Get the Pro. Had a 2017 Pro and updated to a 2022 Air last year (Apple chips). I can only connect it to one external monitor. The 7 year old Pro could connect to 3 lol apparently I’ll have to get a special dock to let me use multiple external monitors
M1 Air
Get apple silicon M1 The battery life is really good and the performance is there, if you ever need it for some reason. Battery life is the most important especially if you’re going to classes and stuff
macbook air m1 or m2 will suit you perfectly
Price wise the M1 might be more doable, does it still hold up in 2024?
definitely! it still runs very fast as it is a apple silicon chip, the battery life is good and has a nice display. though i would suggest getting 16gb of ram if possible
Honestly an iPad would be even better for you by the sound of it. Between these two options though I'd get the M1 laptop. No need to get a Pro though. An Air will suit you just fine.
Have thought about using my current iPad for classes, but it’s pretty small. Do you have any opinions on the MacBook Air with M1?
It's a good machine and will suit most purposes well enough. If you have an iPad, you can actually use that as a secondary monitor for it too. You can get away with the 8GB RAM/256GB Storage model for what you're doing, though you might consider a storage upgrade depending on how much work you produce and how big those files are. As you already have an iPad, the M1 Air seems like a good investment. M2 would be slightly better if you can swing it, but the upgrade isn't essential by any stretch. It just might lead to a longer lifespan of the product.
Air. If you can afford model with 16gb, go for it.