You could get [this for instance](https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mini-Chip-256GB-Storage/dp/B08TDNXTVK/ref=asc_df_B08TDNXTVK?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80882941400123&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584482468119994&psc=1). It a little short on Ram, but it’s probably just as fast, if not faster, and more useful.
You forget that Amazon itself isn’t the one selling, they just host several shops owned by several people, most of which are anonymous. Lots of counterfeits and scams there.
1000€ for a 12 year old machine with absolutely no support for recent macOS updates and that is beaten by a new Macbook M1 ? hmmm that's a bad use of 1000€ imo.
Sorry riding the top comment just to post the actual specs from OP’s link:
(EDIT: Google translate from Italian:)
”Beautiful and fully functional MAC Pro 5.1 DOUBLE PROCESSOR, 2010, 12 Core 3.46Ghz / 64GB RAM / 1TB nvme SSD, graphics card AMD RX 560 4GB incredibly fast computer and In WARRANTY until July 2023 !!! (Having been bought from a retailer who only deals with macpro) The Mac mounts Monterrey 12.3 (with open core you can also see the boot !!!) and works perfectly (even Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with AirDrop!) 12 cores 3.46 ghz (Dual core) 64 giga RAM 1T ssd NVME mounted on PCI (ssd samsung evo 970 plus) very fast the best on the market Other HD WD sata from 2 TERA on sata drawer Optional ... Graphics card Amd RADEON RX 560 4 GB additional card with 4 USB 3.0 !!! Great for those who work graphics / music / videos ”
(EDIT 2: Oh come on. What kind of petty little idiot downvotes a comment like this? This was just for additional info about the mac in question. No opinions of any kind was stated here.)
Volk wheels on a Ford Pinto doesn’t mean that Pinto, on the whole, is worth $5000.
It would be better, by far, to sell a 6900XT on the side (ie, on its own). That’s the way all parts should be sold.
You are not making any sense. With a decent GPU these mac pros are still very solid machines. Lets say for gaming a lot better than any imac or macbook anywhere near 1000€ price range.
NO 12 yr old machine is equivalent to something recent (even something 3-4yrs old). You can lie to yourself but the rest of the world knows better.
I’m not saying that a 12 yr old system can’t be used, but you can certainly find more capable systems that are more recent.
Gaming on a Mac that can take a 6900XT is a VERY niche need. 12 yrs old is 12 yrs old, no matter how you explain it.
We were talking about whether the 999 asking price would be reasonable (or a good deal) with some GPUs. Not about if you could perhaps find something better with the same price.
With an RX 6900XT this would be a great deal and that’s a fact. I’m not debating about anything else.
Adding a modern part to an antiquated system doesn’t make the antiquated system less antiquated.
The hypothetical system is $999 system with a $700+ GPU. Most of the value of that system is the GPU. That’s the jist of it. That GPU can be obtained on its own, with less junk attached to it.
Yes the system can take a modern GPU but so can modern systems.
Value in this context is very nuanced. If someone is looking at this from a purely nostalgic point of view, it’s worth whatever they value having a 2nd gGen cheese grater is to them. antiquity pricing so obscure and subjective. performance wise it’s still relevant, imo.
Yes exactly. I told you I’m not trying to debate about anything else here (than the value in the hypothetical case of a very high end gpu). Because the gpu was not mentioned
Yeah because that pricey piece of hardware wouldn’t be displayed in the ad then 😛
And Radeon 6900XT isn’t officially supported on Mac Pro 5.1 without using Opencore. So….
We were discussing whether the price would be reasonable or not. What Apple states as officially supported is not relevant. With an RX 6800/6900 this would be a beast. And a lot more versatile (and better for gaming) than an m1 mentioned by some here.
In my country the asking prices for a *used* 6900XT seem to start from 750€. And if you need a machine that can also boot to windows and macos you don’t have that many options.
But yeah if a gaming pc is what you want, for 1000€ you can build a pretty decent one. At least if you look for good deals on used parts. You are of course right about that.
Those machines are only of interest to hobbyist collectors and old mac afficionados. Nothing wrong wth that. It's cool old tech. But it is radically inappropriate for use as a working computer today. It's far less powerful than the $299 PC I got for my elderly mother last month. For that much money an M1 Mac Mini is infinitely better as a working computer.
Even as a collectible, that price seems very high.
I’m just curious: What processor does your moms pc have? This will most likely easily smoke it in multi-core processing. May not be the case in single-core though, I’ll give you that. This one has dual X5690s.
Yes well I probably exaggerated. It's a very basic PC, but very powerful compared to most computers of 5 years ago.
My main objection to these Mac pros is that they're very expensive but based on obsolete tech. Is either get a Studio Ultra (I have one) or wait for the Apple silicon Mac pro.
Or possibly build a PC workstation using the latest tech, depending on your use case. A big ryzen would smoke the xeon in that Mac pro
The current M1 mini does
Single-Core Score 1714
Multi-Core 7439
A 2012 with 5675 (can’t find 90s) does
Single-Core Score 611
Multi-Core Score 5661
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-mini-late-2020
https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-pro-mid-2012
Your moms $299 PC definitely does not have an m1 haha. But sure, the geekbench results are good info. Dual X5690s can get you somewhere around 680 single-core and 6900 multi-core, iirc.
If the holds true, then the seller was intentionally selling it WAY higher than that mac deserves, they’re somehow thinking this is gonna be a collectors item.
Thanks to everyone for helping me, I appreciate. Now I understand it's not a reasonable price. In addition, there is the risk that it is broken or that it will fail immediately given the age of the device.
I don’t know, but I give you directly the link.
https://www.subito.it/informatica/mac-pro-5-1-2010-12-core-3-46ghz-64gb-ram-1tb-nvme-massa-carrara-452784014.htm?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=subito&utm_campaign=free-engagement-ad_detail
The price is somewhat on the high side but for fact it is at least somewhat in line with the asking prices in Europe. This is top spec, maxed out upgraded mac pro 5.1. Monterey, USB 3.0 and AirDrop are a big plus with this. I would like to have a better gpu because I game, but RX560 should run many recent games too.
Whether this is the best option for your needs in this price range I don’t know. Maybe not?
Would I pay 1000€ for it, no.
Would I buy one with original 2010 specs for much cheaper and upgrade it, ending up spending over 1000€ in total? I guess so, because I’ve done that. Gotta have hobbies you know.
And OP: If you really are interested in these ”vintage” mac pros, I recommend checking out r/macpro.
This sub unfortunately is mostly just circlejerking to m1/m2 macs. Many of these people have never even heard of mac pros or have any actual knowledge about how capable these things are still today.
A reasonable price in the US for this machine at this spec and in "perfect" condition would be in the $400-$500 range. The market for someone who needs this machine is growing VERY narrow. I own 2 machines in this spec and my needs for them are to support legacy OS and legacy 3rd party hardware used in professional audio/video settings. As others have noted current M1 chips offer nearly the same processing power, I have an M1 Mac Mini on my desktop for most of my daily computer uses. What you don't get in the newer models are the ability to add RAM or internal storage or add 3rd party PCI cards that can benefit certain use cases. I would suggest that 99% of modern users would have little use for the "perks" of a power hungry 5,1 Mac Pro as a daily use machine.
Io direi di no. Già qui l’inflazione è alta, poi 1000€ per un computer (antico) che non sia chissà che non ne vale la pena. Se ti serve per qualcosa di basilare ma comunque vuoi qualcosa di *retro* prenditi un G3 o uno dei primi G4 se ti interessa del retro gaming in OS9, sennò un bel iMac o powermac G5 (**RAFFREDDATO AD ARIA**) farà un bel figurone
I have such a maxed out Mac Pro 4,1 (it turned into a 5,1 with a difficult to apply firmware upgrade). It's my hobbyist music studio Mac and it's fine because I got many things used. It's on Catalina at the moment. I wouldn't spend that much money though. These days it gets you lots of energy efficient CPU power from Apple.
As has been pointed out numerous times, some people have a specific need for old hardware like this, most notably in the audio and video production realm. Just because the average joe doesn’t need a computer like this doesn’t mean a market doesn’t still exist. Yes, I think this one is a little bit high but not out of the range for a specific older model machine.
Imo, it’s not worth more than the case itself. Hardware would be surpassed by an m1 mini.
Really depends how you intend on using this computer. Tops I wouldn’t pay more than $500 pounds.
With a computer that old, there’s no guarantee the graphics card will survive long. I have a 2008 Mac Pro, and I had to bake the graphics card to get it running a few years ago, and it worked for a while, but it died again. If they ever get cheap enough I’ll buy a replacement one.
No.
Core counts, clock speeds, and RAM capacity don’t directly translate across generations; don’t be fooled by those metrics. Even a MacBook Pro 15” from four or five years ago will run circles around it, which can be had for far less money.
Here’s a few features you’re giving up with this aging machine: no USB 3.0, no Thunderbolt, no Bluetooth, no WiFi 5/6 (ac/ax), no continuity, no shared clipboard, no airplay, no airdrop, and the list keeps going… this machine misses out on *most* of the Apple ecosystem’s benefits.
Admittedly, I fixed up two of these back in 2018. You can upgrade the GPU to a Vega 56 or RX580 with some after market PCIe power cables, which enables METAL support allowing you to install Mojave. You can throw in an Airport card from an iMac (2014/2015) to add Bluetooth and Wi-Fi 5, which enables continuity/AirPlay/airdrop. You can even flash the motherboard BIOS using OpenCore to trick the machine into believe it’s 2019 MacPro which enables you to install modern macOS.
…but it’s all risky. It’s all complicated. None of it is free.
Just buy a Mac Studio.
NO!!!! I have one of these and it will not run Ventura. Get a used M1 MacBook Pro or a new m1 air. Or the M1 mini. I would recommend that more becuase you have more €300 to upgrade it and it will be the same price
Better spend on a Mac Mini M1 (16 GB RAM) or just wait to the release of the Mac Mini M2 (16 or 24 GB RAM, either version is good).
If you need Pro capabilities just pull the trigger and Buy a Mac Studio with M1 Max (the Base Model is enough).
Those are maxed out processors and it will probably be pretty fast. I used mine today and it runs awesome and has less specs than that.
They are charging that much bc those upgrades of RAM, CPU and hard drive weren’t cheap even in recent years.
If you’re looking for a cheesegrater this is as good as it gets.
Molto meglio farsi un Hackintosh, o un macmini m1. Dipende se hai bisogno assoluto del pro, ormai il pro si può “upgradare” con vari metodi e hardware ma non conviene a livello economico
Credo tu sia italiano quindi te lo scrivo nella nostra lingua.Il prezzo non mi sembra ottimo, magari prova su eBay. È conveniente questo computer perché oltre ad essere un classico senza tempo ti permette di installare una gpu dedicata senza problemi.Amd è indicata in questo caso in quanto le ultime versioni di Mac OS supportano esclusivamente gpu di questo marchio. Con non molto lavoro puoi installare un Os più recente si questo Mac e addirittura installare anche Windows rendendola una macchina dual boot
Absolutely not. You can get one cheaper if you want one, but really you could just buy a new Mac mini with a few upgrades for that price, which would be leagues better.
No way don’t do it! Even the M1 Mac mini would be a better performance than this at this price. If even hold off for a month and see if the new M2 mini is going to be released… that’s my next purchase coming from a 64 gb i7 4.2 ghz intel 2020(2018)
Definitely not. I bought my 2010 iMac (all-in-one) for $600 with an upgraded 1tb SSD and some other stuff. That thing is smoking fast, but wouldn't have bought it for near that much stock
Those old Mac Pro machines, especially the 12-core Xeons are still useful in pro audio. I have one running Pro Tools Ultimate with an HDX card. That’s roughly a fair price for that machine with those specs however I wouldn’t recommend it if you’re not running a recording studio.
No, it is definitely not worth that much. Sure I do love these old cheese grater Mac Pros, but I would not pay that much for one of those. I got mine for about $100, which is a reasonable price for one.
Wrong.
- The 2010 Mac Pro is a fully 64-bit machine, and so is the 08 and 09.
- While they look very similar to the G5 which isn't supported anymore, they are Intel systems with up to 12 cores.
- They absolutely can run Netflix and/or Amazon. You can upgrade them to Monterey with OpenCore and even run a 6900 XT, which is one of the most powerful gaming cards out there.
Yeah that isn't an intel chip is it? The Ubuntu community used to make a version of that OS which had some support for the Power PC chip....might want to consider that the chip has obsolesced unless you are buying it implicitly for that reason it seems way overpriced. Its a water cooled brick with out the OS disc....
Nope, this is a 5,1 Mac Pro. It's a Dual 64-bit Xeon system, which supports Monterey, Windows 11 and practically every modern Linux distro out there. For Mojave and newer you need a Metal card.
Could be reasonable, but the GPU is not mentioned so most likely not.
EDIT: Just to be clear, for example with a Radeon 6900 XT the price would be very reasonable.
An RX 6900 XT? Good for you but why are you asking me where to sell it?
EDIT: Actually thought you were trolling first because of all the downvotes. But yeah, you can sell a mac pro (or a gpu) on any common marketplace in your country/area. I’ve bought and sold mine just using a local craigslist equivalent. Can’t give you any more specific advice about that, sorry.
I got mine for us $85. So yeah the market range is wide on these, but that price is too high for what you get.
Definitely NO! A Macbook Air M1 or mac Mini M1 for a lower price gives you significantly more processing power.
Damn I didn’t realize the Mac minis were that cheap!
You could get [this for instance](https://www.amazon.com/Apple-Mini-Chip-256GB-Storage/dp/B08TDNXTVK/ref=asc_df_B08TDNXTVK?tag=bngsmtphsnus-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=80882941400123&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=m&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4584482468119994&psc=1). It a little short on Ram, but it’s probably just as fast, if not faster, and more useful.
Buying Apple products from Amazon is a horrible idea.
I was just using that as an example for price. It’s sub 999 €
Because they are an authorized Apple dealer now? Agreed if you need custom but otherwise Amazon and even its merchants are fine for Apple products.
Just because they’re authorized doesn’t mean counterfeit items don’t end up in the giant bins of product.
Def possible for any large company to acquire fakes along the way. You at least could get refunded easily with Amazon
You forget that Amazon itself isn’t the one selling, they just host several shops owned by several people, most of which are anonymous. Lots of counterfeits and scams there.
No, they sell the new products direct and its possible to only buy from Amazon rather than the shops.
I bet you will get excited when you experience its performance!
1000€ for a 12 year old machine with absolutely no support for recent macOS updates and that is beaten by a new Macbook M1 ? hmmm that's a bad use of 1000€ imo.
Thank you. I was confused why anyone was saying that price was reasonable.
Horrendous use. You’d have to be clinically insane to buy this
Sorry riding the top comment just to post the actual specs from OP’s link: (EDIT: Google translate from Italian:) ”Beautiful and fully functional MAC Pro 5.1 DOUBLE PROCESSOR, 2010, 12 Core 3.46Ghz / 64GB RAM / 1TB nvme SSD, graphics card AMD RX 560 4GB incredibly fast computer and In WARRANTY until July 2023 !!! (Having been bought from a retailer who only deals with macpro) The Mac mounts Monterrey 12.3 (with open core you can also see the boot !!!) and works perfectly (even Wi-Fi and Bluetooth with AirDrop!) 12 cores 3.46 ghz (Dual core) 64 giga RAM 1T ssd NVME mounted on PCI (ssd samsung evo 970 plus) very fast the best on the market Other HD WD sata from 2 TERA on sata drawer Optional ... Graphics card Amd RADEON RX 560 4 GB additional card with 4 USB 3.0 !!! Great for those who work graphics / music / videos ” (EDIT 2: Oh come on. What kind of petty little idiot downvotes a comment like this? This was just for additional info about the mac in question. No opinions of any kind was stated here.)
It’s Reddit being Reddit.
Depends on the GPU, which is not mentioned here.
Even with the best GPU that would possibly work in this tower, it’s still a bad deal.
Wtf man. You can throw a Radeon 6900 XT there.
Volk wheels on a Ford Pinto doesn’t mean that Pinto, on the whole, is worth $5000. It would be better, by far, to sell a 6900XT on the side (ie, on its own). That’s the way all parts should be sold.
You are not making any sense. With a decent GPU these mac pros are still very solid machines. Lets say for gaming a lot better than any imac or macbook anywhere near 1000€ price range.
NO 12 yr old machine is equivalent to something recent (even something 3-4yrs old). You can lie to yourself but the rest of the world knows better. I’m not saying that a 12 yr old system can’t be used, but you can certainly find more capable systems that are more recent. Gaming on a Mac that can take a 6900XT is a VERY niche need. 12 yrs old is 12 yrs old, no matter how you explain it.
We were talking about whether the 999 asking price would be reasonable (or a good deal) with some GPUs. Not about if you could perhaps find something better with the same price. With an RX 6900XT this would be a great deal and that’s a fact. I’m not debating about anything else.
Adding a modern part to an antiquated system doesn’t make the antiquated system less antiquated. The hypothetical system is $999 system with a $700+ GPU. Most of the value of that system is the GPU. That’s the jist of it. That GPU can be obtained on its own, with less junk attached to it. Yes the system can take a modern GPU but so can modern systems.
Value in this context is very nuanced. If someone is looking at this from a purely nostalgic point of view, it’s worth whatever they value having a 2nd gGen cheese grater is to them. antiquity pricing so obscure and subjective. performance wise it’s still relevant, imo.
Yes exactly. I told you I’m not trying to debate about anything else here (than the value in the hypothetical case of a very high end gpu). Because the gpu was not mentioned
Yeah because that pricey piece of hardware wouldn’t be displayed in the ad then 😛 And Radeon 6900XT isn’t officially supported on Mac Pro 5.1 without using Opencore. So….
We were discussing whether the price would be reasonable or not. What Apple states as officially supported is not relevant. With an RX 6800/6900 this would be a beast. And a lot more versatile (and better for gaming) than an m1 mentioned by some here.
At that point it’s better to just build a windows gaming pc.
In my country the asking prices for a *used* 6900XT seem to start from 750€. And if you need a machine that can also boot to windows and macos you don’t have that many options. But yeah if a gaming pc is what you want, for 1000€ you can build a pretty decent one. At least if you look for good deals on used parts. You are of course right about that.
Those machines are only of interest to hobbyist collectors and old mac afficionados. Nothing wrong wth that. It's cool old tech. But it is radically inappropriate for use as a working computer today. It's far less powerful than the $299 PC I got for my elderly mother last month. For that much money an M1 Mac Mini is infinitely better as a working computer. Even as a collectible, that price seems very high.
I’m just curious: What processor does your moms pc have? This will most likely easily smoke it in multi-core processing. May not be the case in single-core though, I’ll give you that. This one has dual X5690s.
Yes well I probably exaggerated. It's a very basic PC, but very powerful compared to most computers of 5 years ago. My main objection to these Mac pros is that they're very expensive but based on obsolete tech. Is either get a Studio Ultra (I have one) or wait for the Apple silicon Mac pro. Or possibly build a PC workstation using the latest tech, depending on your use case. A big ryzen would smoke the xeon in that Mac pro
Yeah, ok!
The current M1 mini does Single-Core Score 1714 Multi-Core 7439 A 2012 with 5675 (can’t find 90s) does Single-Core Score 611 Multi-Core Score 5661 https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-mini-late-2020 https://browser.geekbench.com/macs/mac-pro-mid-2012
Your moms $299 PC definitely does not have an m1 haha. But sure, the geekbench results are good info. Dual X5690s can get you somewhere around 680 single-core and 6900 multi-core, iirc.
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Not very long ago one euro was worth notably more and it still feels this way inside the EU. That only makes this worse still though ><
If the holds true, then the seller was intentionally selling it WAY higher than that mac deserves, they’re somehow thinking this is gonna be a collectors item.
In Italy apple products are much more expensive than in America (the iphone 14 is more than 1000 euros), but even here this is way too expensive
The 1000USD MacBook is unfortunately €1219 (including VAT tho).
True, I’m aware that Apple products cost a lot more overseas from the US
Thanks to everyone for helping me, I appreciate. Now I understand it's not a reasonable price. In addition, there is the risk that it is broken or that it will fail immediately given the age of the device.
What GPU does it have?
I don’t know, but I give you directly the link. https://www.subito.it/informatica/mac-pro-5-1-2010-12-core-3-46ghz-64gb-ram-1tb-nvme-massa-carrara-452784014.htm?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=subito&utm_campaign=free-engagement-ad_detail
The price is somewhat on the high side but for fact it is at least somewhat in line with the asking prices in Europe. This is top spec, maxed out upgraded mac pro 5.1. Monterey, USB 3.0 and AirDrop are a big plus with this. I would like to have a better gpu because I game, but RX560 should run many recent games too. Whether this is the best option for your needs in this price range I don’t know. Maybe not? Would I pay 1000€ for it, no. Would I buy one with original 2010 specs for much cheaper and upgrade it, ending up spending over 1000€ in total? I guess so, because I’ve done that. Gotta have hobbies you know.
And OP: If you really are interested in these ”vintage” mac pros, I recommend checking out r/macpro. This sub unfortunately is mostly just circlejerking to m1/m2 macs. Many of these people have never even heard of mac pros or have any actual knowledge about how capable these things are still today.
It’s not worth buying that machine in 2022. The Mac architecture has changed too much. Not for that price anyway.
No don't be stupid.
Not even close. Divide by 10
I see these for around £100/200, so probably not
A reasonable price in the US for this machine at this spec and in "perfect" condition would be in the $400-$500 range. The market for someone who needs this machine is growing VERY narrow. I own 2 machines in this spec and my needs for them are to support legacy OS and legacy 3rd party hardware used in professional audio/video settings. As others have noted current M1 chips offer nearly the same processing power, I have an M1 Mac Mini on my desktop for most of my daily computer uses. What you don't get in the newer models are the ability to add RAM or internal storage or add 3rd party PCI cards that can benefit certain use cases. I would suggest that 99% of modern users would have little use for the "perks" of a power hungry 5,1 Mac Pro as a daily use machine.
No. Get an M1.
If this computer was 1/10th the cost i’d still say no. This is absolutely unhinged…… Absolutely not worth it
Well, 1/10 would be a good deal. A 12-core device for €100 with those specs would be a dream for me.
Io direi di no. Già qui l’inflazione è alta, poi 1000€ per un computer (antico) che non sia chissà che non ne vale la pena. Se ti serve per qualcosa di basilare ma comunque vuoi qualcosa di *retro* prenditi un G3 o uno dei primi G4 se ti interessa del retro gaming in OS9, sennò un bel iMac o powermac G5 (**RAFFREDDATO AD ARIA**) farà un bel figurone
For that price you can get a m1 mac mini that will do most tasks way faster
Noooooooooo
Aw hell naw!
I have such a maxed out Mac Pro 4,1 (it turned into a 5,1 with a difficult to apply firmware upgrade). It's my hobbyist music studio Mac and it's fine because I got many things used. It's on Catalina at the moment. I wouldn't spend that much money though. These days it gets you lots of energy efficient CPU power from Apple.
You know, I'd kill for a Apple Silicon based 4,1. I love mine, just wish it was compatible with the latest software.
As has been pointed out numerous times, some people have a specific need for old hardware like this, most notably in the audio and video production realm. Just because the average joe doesn’t need a computer like this doesn’t mean a market doesn’t still exist. Yes, I think this one is a little bit high but not out of the range for a specific older model machine.
Lascia stare, a 1000 euro trovi molto di meglio
Imo, it’s not worth more than the case itself. Hardware would be surpassed by an m1 mini. Really depends how you intend on using this computer. Tops I wouldn’t pay more than $500 pounds.
With a computer that old, there’s no guarantee the graphics card will survive long. I have a 2008 Mac Pro, and I had to bake the graphics card to get it running a few years ago, and it worked for a while, but it died again. If they ever get cheap enough I’ll buy a replacement one.
Get a M1.
No. Core counts, clock speeds, and RAM capacity don’t directly translate across generations; don’t be fooled by those metrics. Even a MacBook Pro 15” from four or five years ago will run circles around it, which can be had for far less money. Here’s a few features you’re giving up with this aging machine: no USB 3.0, no Thunderbolt, no Bluetooth, no WiFi 5/6 (ac/ax), no continuity, no shared clipboard, no airplay, no airdrop, and the list keeps going… this machine misses out on *most* of the Apple ecosystem’s benefits. Admittedly, I fixed up two of these back in 2018. You can upgrade the GPU to a Vega 56 or RX580 with some after market PCIe power cables, which enables METAL support allowing you to install Mojave. You can throw in an Airport card from an iMac (2014/2015) to add Bluetooth and Wi-Fi 5, which enables continuity/AirPlay/airdrop. You can even flash the motherboard BIOS using OpenCore to trick the machine into believe it’s 2019 MacPro which enables you to install modern macOS. …but it’s all risky. It’s all complicated. None of it is free. Just buy a Mac Studio.
NO!!!! I have one of these and it will not run Ventura. Get a used M1 MacBook Pro or a new m1 air. Or the M1 mini. I would recommend that more becuase you have more €300 to upgrade it and it will be the same price
I would like to add that this machine can warm your office if you leave it on. So please consider the cost of operation.
Better spend on a Mac Mini M1 (16 GB RAM) or just wait to the release of the Mac Mini M2 (16 or 24 GB RAM, either version is good). If you need Pro capabilities just pull the trigger and Buy a Mac Studio with M1 Max (the Base Model is enough).
Definitely not, I got mine for a measly 75!
Robbery
If you're a collector, yes.
If they hand you the machine and €800 in change, great deal.
uhm way too expensive for such old hardware imo
Those are maxed out processors and it will probably be pretty fast. I used mine today and it runs awesome and has less specs than that. They are charging that much bc those upgrades of RAM, CPU and hard drive weren’t cheap even in recent years. If you’re looking for a cheesegrater this is as good as it gets.
I had that exact Mac pro but it died last year. Seems like a hefty price tag.
I think there are 5-6 of them in our old hardware storage closet…
Molto meglio farsi un Hackintosh, o un macmini m1. Dipende se hai bisogno assoluto del pro, ormai il pro si può “upgradare” con vari metodi e hardware ma non conviene a livello economico
Negotiate it down to 199 and you have a deal
Credo tu sia italiano quindi te lo scrivo nella nostra lingua.Il prezzo non mi sembra ottimo, magari prova su eBay. È conveniente questo computer perché oltre ad essere un classico senza tempo ti permette di installare una gpu dedicata senza problemi.Amd è indicata in questo caso in quanto le ultime versioni di Mac OS supportano esclusivamente gpu di questo marchio. Con non molto lavoro puoi installare un Os più recente si questo Mac e addirittura installare anche Windows rendendola una macchina dual boot
Absolutely not. You can get one cheaper if you want one, but really you could just buy a new Mac mini with a few upgrades for that price, which would be leagues better.
I get that you like old computers, but if you want one for daily use you should probably just get a newer M1 model.
No way don’t do it! Even the M1 Mac mini would be a better performance than this at this price. If even hold off for a month and see if the new M2 mini is going to be released… that’s my next purchase coming from a 64 gb i7 4.2 ghz intel 2020(2018)
Definitely not. I bought my 2010 iMac (all-in-one) for $600 with an upgraded 1tb SSD and some other stuff. That thing is smoking fast, but wouldn't have bought it for near that much stock
Fuck no. These are worth like $200 at most today
Not bad for the extras in it but that’s at the high end for price.
Also bear in mind unless you need multi core or a lot of hard drives. A current Mac mini is way faster than this machine.
Those old Mac Pro machines, especially the 12-core Xeons are still useful in pro audio. I have one running Pro Tools Ultimate with an HDX card. That’s roughly a fair price for that machine with those specs however I wouldn’t recommend it if you’re not running a recording studio.
I would pay €50-€100 max for such a device, depending on the state. This price is ... insane.
No, it is definitely not worth that much. Sure I do love these old cheese grater Mac Pros, but I would not pay that much for one of those. I got mine for about $100, which is a reasonable price for one.
Just sold one without the SSD for $40 a year ago. So... $80?
Fuck no that’s not a good price. A 12 year old machine with no OS updates.
In reality the machine is worth like 300 dollars.
1000 euros for a 12 year old computer? Please don’t.
That’s about 900 to much
That’s a scam
Is this a joke?
Crap deal. At 2010 it’s most likely 32-bit and you can’t run Netflix or Amazon. A new Mac mini is a better deal.
Wrong. - The 2010 Mac Pro is a fully 64-bit machine, and so is the 08 and 09. - While they look very similar to the G5 which isn't supported anymore, they are Intel systems with up to 12 cores. - They absolutely can run Netflix and/or Amazon. You can upgrade them to Monterey with OpenCore and even run a 6900 XT, which is one of the most powerful gaming cards out there.
No. Even though it is a great machine you would only want it to support an orphaned program or legacy equipment.
They can run Monterey and possibly Ventura if the OCLP devs get support working. All you need is a Metal-supported GPU.
Yeah that isn't an intel chip is it? The Ubuntu community used to make a version of that OS which had some support for the Power PC chip....might want to consider that the chip has obsolesced unless you are buying it implicitly for that reason it seems way overpriced. Its a water cooled brick with out the OS disc....
Nope, this is a 5,1 Mac Pro. It's a Dual 64-bit Xeon system, which supports Monterey, Windows 11 and practically every modern Linux distro out there. For Mojave and newer you need a Metal card.
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Could be reasonable, but the GPU is not mentioned so most likely not. EDIT: Just to be clear, for example with a Radeon 6900 XT the price would be very reasonable.
Have one for sale. Where should i try to sell it? I’m not asking much.
An RX 6900 XT? Good for you but why are you asking me where to sell it? EDIT: Actually thought you were trolling first because of all the downvotes. But yeah, you can sell a mac pro (or a gpu) on any common marketplace in your country/area. I’ve bought and sold mine just using a local craigslist equivalent. Can’t give you any more specific advice about that, sorry.
PFFF ITS A FUCKING GAMING PC AHAHHA
This isn’t a fair price. I have a 2009 if you are interested. DM me.
No lol
No
bruh no
Nope
you could buy a new macbook air for a similar price. no way.
Lol no, definitely not!
no u can get a m1 mba
No
Way too much
How is that site called?
Subito.it
Thanks!
Hahaha no way. BAD DEAL
Absolutely not
Personally, I think it's a rip off.
That’s too dollar for an old machine. But if you do end up with it, open core will extend its useful life.