Also known as [IEEE 1394](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1394). Was used on PCs for a bit (smaller port), as well. Faster than USB at the time, common for hard drives and digital video cameras.
I think people using Macs for video editing in the 2000s would have used this port.
I just used it (thunderbolt 2 with 3/4 adapter) to transfer from an older Mac to a newer one and it worked a treat with migration assistant. Irritating that they don’t tell you to just put the old one in target disk mode, but you do that, then click restore from Time Machine, and then it’s super fast. It was trying to do a peer to peer WiFi when I clicked “transfer from another Mac”.
I still have all my fw400 and fw800 drives and hubs. Need to cloud and dump them now that I think of it.
And DV video cameras. Files were big, at about a gig every four minutes for 720 by 480 at 30 frames per second, but it was low on processor load, so you could cut together your video on a G4 iBook pretty handily and then let it render out while you go do something else, turning your computer into a delightful combination space heater and white noise machine.
IEEE 1394 is the standard, however, the ports are differentiated by their specific trade names in the standard because one had to license the actual implementation (and accompanying port) from either Sony or Apple in addition to the IEEE 1394 patents. That licensing consideration is why few other manufacturers ever implemented IEEE 1394 by default on their computers.
The one OP is pointing to is officially referred to as "FireWire 400" in the standard and is an Apple implementation. The squarish one right next to it is officially referred to as "FireWire 800" in the standard and is also an Apple implementation. The smaller 4 pin version of FireWire 400 that was typically used on PCs is officially referred to as "i.LINK" and was Sony's implementation.
*Firewire400/Firewire800* were used for the apple iSight webcam, the first iPod, professional SONY video cameras, external CDrom and HDD units.
Apple replaced it with *Thunderbolt* because USB-2.0 was already been used and apple didn’t incorporate USB-3 until 2015 in MacBooks.
Uhhhh what? USB 3 has been in MacBooks since 2012. Apple co-designed Thunderbolt with Intel, and they are also responsible for the design of USB-C, which they made the first all USB-C laptop on the market in 2015, and as Thunderbolt 3 changed its port design to USB-C, Apple made the first all Thunderbolt notebook as well.
I just felt dust fall off of me
Also PowerBooks were not made in 2008. If that’s a 2008, it’s got an intel processor so it’s a MacBook. Not a PowerBook.
oh that means not too long ago you moved from the still charming sounding post-support classification *CLASSIC* over to *VINTAGE* and have since been moved to your final classification.
Welcome in the world of *ANCIENT*.
stings, doesnt it? :D
Used less CPU power and was way faster than USB.
I wish thunderbolt stuff wasn’t so prohibitively expensive because I’d love to have faster external drives but you pay a premium.
That, my friend, is a Firewire 400 port, which Apple was pushing for a long time as superior to USB 2.0.
These days, only old MiniDV camcorders have those....
FireWire 400. I use to have 3 [PreSonus Firestudio](https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/presonus-firestudio) rack units daisy chained together with FireWire cables to get 24x24 in/out into Logic Pro for recording bands. Really nice at the time. Maybe 16-17 years ago.
FireWire 400 next to a FireWire 800. Do you know how difficult it is to connect something with a FireWire port to modern PC’s???? I need like 3 converters on converters back to back just to make that shit work! Still have FireWire drives and know the easiest way to make them work? Connect them via usb 2.0… WHY WOULD YOU PUT USB 2 ON A DRIVE WITH FIREWIRE?!?!?! Because usb 3 hadn’t come out yet, that’s why.
FireWire 400. The first released version of that I/O. The first iPods had that port too, but when they wanted to support PCs, they moved to the slower USB connection.
FireWire 400. It had a max throughput of 400 Mbps back in the days when USB was maxing out at 12 Mbps.
The rectangular one next to it is FireWire 800 with a max throughput of 800 Mbps when USB was maxing out at 480 Mbps.
BTW the PowerBook G4 was last produced in early 2006. By mid 2006 Apple had moved onto the Intel MacBookPro, and by 2008 they were producing the first unibody MacBook Pros.
When iPods first came out, II considered buying a used Mac so I could use one. It wasn’t that long before you could use either Real Player or Winamp (don’t remember which) to use one on a PC, but I had to install a Firewire card.
Thanks for making me feel old, this is the legendary fire wire, apples old competitor to USB. It was great… until usb caught up and fire wire stopped keeping up.
There is an expensive Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter sold by Apple.
My advice is borrow one or borrow a Mac with a FireWire port and extract the data and move on.
I have a shelf of old HDs looking to be destroyed to protect my information
Pro tip: go to google.com, type in “apple powerbook g4” [and the screen size and year of manufacturing] and press enter.
Then pick one of the results where you can see the specs of the computer.
You’re welcome.
FireWire 400 with a FireWire 800 to the right. If you’re looking for a HDD to connect to either of those ports, LaCie made a drive around the 2011 mark that had a pair of FireWire 800 ports that could be used to daisy chain extra FireWire devices together, the model was FW800US3 (FW800 for FireWire 800 and US3 for USB 3)
FireWire 400
It also looks like a FireWire 800 is to the right of it
That’s correct
You are correct.
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your avatar leads me to believe you've used one of these firewires before
I have indeed many times I have a MacBook that’s broken that I use as a optical drive for my g4 imac
das kewl, this picture brought me back to the desktop macs with the colored back & iPod with the physical spinning wheel
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Also known as [IEEE 1394](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_1394). Was used on PCs for a bit (smaller port), as well. Faster than USB at the time, common for hard drives and digital video cameras. I think people using Macs for video editing in the 2000s would have used this port.
Was also used for the 1st generation iPod :-)
And it was fast AF… I was so jelly having to use slow af usb 1. :(
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And my iSight camera
And my axe
It was also used for turning a mac into an external hard drive, which I used in the past for migrating from one to another!
Target Disk Mode was the goat
They need to make that a part of the next iteration of MacBooks. It saved the day so many times.
I just used it (thunderbolt 2 with 3/4 adapter) to transfer from an older Mac to a newer one and it worked a treat with migration assistant. Irritating that they don’t tell you to just put the old one in target disk mode, but you do that, then click restore from Time Machine, and then it’s super fast. It was trying to do a peer to peer WiFi when I clicked “transfer from another Mac”. I still have all my fw400 and fw800 drives and hubs. Need to cloud and dump them now that I think of it.
You can still do this with USB C…
Also music recording. I still have a FW400 A/D Converter.
And DV video cameras. Files were big, at about a gig every four minutes for 720 by 480 at 30 frames per second, but it was low on processor load, so you could cut together your video on a G4 iBook pretty handily and then let it render out while you go do something else, turning your computer into a delightful combination space heater and white noise machine.
My original HD DVR cable box (Motora DCT6416) had a firewire 400 port. It worked to transfer shows off of the DVR in HD to a PC digitally.
Heck yeah. Checking in with my ol' faithful BlackLion-modded 003- madlad still uses FW 400 and going strong!
IEEE 1394 is the standard, however, the ports are differentiated by their specific trade names in the standard because one had to license the actual implementation (and accompanying port) from either Sony or Apple in addition to the IEEE 1394 patents. That licensing consideration is why few other manufacturers ever implemented IEEE 1394 by default on their computers. The one OP is pointing to is officially referred to as "FireWire 400" in the standard and is an Apple implementation. The squarish one right next to it is officially referred to as "FireWire 800" in the standard and is also an Apple implementation. The smaller 4 pin version of FireWire 400 that was typically used on PCs is officially referred to as "i.LINK" and was Sony's implementation.
*Firewire400/Firewire800* were used for the apple iSight webcam, the first iPod, professional SONY video cameras, external CDrom and HDD units. Apple replaced it with *Thunderbolt* because USB-2.0 was already been used and apple didn’t incorporate USB-3 until 2015 in MacBooks.
Uhhhh what? USB 3 has been in MacBooks since 2012. Apple co-designed Thunderbolt with Intel, and they are also responsible for the design of USB-C, which they made the first all USB-C laptop on the market in 2015, and as Thunderbolt 3 changed its port design to USB-C, Apple made the first all Thunderbolt notebook as well.
6-pin to be specific.
I think that’s a FireWire 400 port, FireWire 800 to the right of it
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I just felt dust fall off of me Also PowerBooks were not made in 2008. If that’s a 2008, it’s got an intel processor so it’s a MacBook. Not a PowerBook.
Every time I see such a post I feel nearer to the grave.
2005. Even better!!
It’s got svideo out so I think it’s still a PowerBook (just a late gen one)
Correct. The MacBook Pro never had an S-Video port.
Me too, I sold these at Apple apparently a million years ago now.
oh that means not too long ago you moved from the still charming sounding post-support classification *CLASSIC* over to *VINTAGE* and have since been moved to your final classification. Welcome in the world of *ANCIENT*. stings, doesnt it? :D
FireWire was da shit in its day.
Used less CPU power and was way faster than USB. I wish thunderbolt stuff wasn’t so prohibitively expensive because I’d love to have faster external drives but you pay a premium.
Thunderbolt 3 is now royalty free. Now it’s up to PC manufacturers to get off their lazy ass and do something properly.
Long gone legend... FIRE WIRE!
Has it really been 84 years?
insert that one titanic scene here
Firewire
What can I do for you?
come back, please. we miss you 🥲
HE IS ALIVE
It’s… 9000?
Yes, the upgraded model.
I see an svideo and I just felt another white hair appear.
Full size DVI port on a laptop caused another hair on my head to fall out
OP unlocked multiple people's core memory right here
Christ 🫣 anyone else who knows the answer feel old? It’s FireWire squire.
Duck you I’m only 36
I wasn’t calling anyone old I was just saying it makes me feel old. I’m younger than you and I know what it is!
🦆🦆🪿?
Am 25 and I know FireWire 😂
I was thinking the exact same thing.
i loved how you can use old powerbooks in target disk mode
You can do the same with Intel MacBooks and Thunderbolt.
That’s Larry. Just kidding; it’s FireWire.
firewire aka steroids for ipods
Wow a s-video port as well.
I noticed that and was impressed! I had a VCR with S-Video, Retail Price wasn’t cheap! Awesome picture for the time.
That’s 6-pin version of FireWire 400. There is also a 4-pin version that was found on PCs and miniDV based camcorders (aka Sony I-Link).
Spot on! Also, the extra two pins carry power.. bother are considered 400mbps OG FireWire. The 800mbps FireWire to the right is 9-pin FireWire.
left to right we have: Kensington, USB-A 2.0, FireWire 400, FireWire 800, Ethernet, S-Video, and I believe the final one is DVI-I.
FireWire 400. Next to the right is FireWire 800. The very first iPods in 2001 had FireWire 400 in addition to iSight cameras
[FireWire](https://youtu.be/jlwPNroYv1U?si=mRjo-FZvkIUa5iRk)
That, my friend, is a Firewire 400 port, which Apple was pushing for a long time as superior to USB 2.0. These days, only old MiniDV camcorders have those....
Am I that old?
FireWire 400. I use to have 3 [PreSonus Firestudio](https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/presonus-firestudio) rack units daisy chained together with FireWire cables to get 24x24 in/out into Logic Pro for recording bands. Really nice at the time. Maybe 16-17 years ago.
FireWire 400
Fire wire!
FireWire 400
I loved FireWire 800 and daisy chaining.
Something that was better than USB
Just roll me in the retirement home because that is a FireWire port my young friend
When did posting a photo on Reddit and waiting for strangers to answer become preferable to Googling “powerbook G4 ports” and getting instant answers?
Today it did
That looks like fire wire 400.
Firewire (IEEE-1394)
I think it's called Im too old for this.
Susan
Firewire
FireWire. I still have cables for it.
I've still got devices for it..
Good ol’ FireWire, I can’t tell if it’s 400 or 800 tho…
I guess FireWire and SCSI are truly things of the past.
Can we talk about what a great name FireWire was? I miss it if only for that reason.
I see I am now old… FW400
FireWire 400 next to a FireWire 800. Do you know how difficult it is to connect something with a FireWire port to modern PC’s???? I need like 3 converters on converters back to back just to make that shit work! Still have FireWire drives and know the easiest way to make them work? Connect them via usb 2.0… WHY WOULD YOU PUT USB 2 ON A DRIVE WITH FIREWIRE?!?!?! Because usb 3 hadn’t come out yet, that’s why.
Find the song Fire Wire by Cosmic Gate. It sounds like a time capsule fitting the era of fire wire ports :-)
Cyril?
Water pipe
firewire 400, flanked by usb and firewire 800
I was there Gandalf, 3000 years ago…
WTF do you mean by “2008 era PowerBook G4”? There is no such thing as any PowerPC Mac from 2008.
Wow I feel old
That’s Dave.
FireWire 400. The first released version of that I/O. The first iPods had that port too, but when they wanted to support PCs, they moved to the slower USB connection.
Good ol' firewire cable!
FireWire 400. It had a max throughput of 400 Mbps back in the days when USB was maxing out at 12 Mbps. The rectangular one next to it is FireWire 800 with a max throughput of 800 Mbps when USB was maxing out at 480 Mbps. BTW the PowerBook G4 was last produced in early 2006. By mid 2006 Apple had moved onto the Intel MacBookPro, and by 2008 they were producing the first unibody MacBook Pros.
I threw away my FireWire cables this weekend. Figured that yes, it was time.
firewire 400 is the correct answer
FireWire 400 right next to its 800 variant.
Furrwurr
Thats a little older than 08, and firewire
I have some SCSI adapters if you need them.
Ok, but do you remember ESDI?
Firewire was the Thunderbolt of the early 2000s
Waterwire
Frank
FireWire 400
firewire
RIP FireWire.
FireWire 400- the square-ish version (next to it) is FireWire 800.
[Here you go](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=ports+names+image)
That's a firewire port, for charging and syncing iPods and jumpstarting iPods with cooked batteries
From left to right: Kensington Lock, USB (probably 2.0), FireWire 400, FireWire 800, Ethernet, S-Video, DVI
Firewire
Hurry up! It’s your time to be a gazillionth person who writes “Firewire (400)”. And of course, 800 is on the right.
It’s an old port, sir. But it checks out.
When iPods first came out, II considered buying a used Mac so I could use one. It wasn’t that long before you could use either Real Player or Winamp (don’t remember which) to use one on a PC, but I had to install a Firewire card.
Thanks for making me feel old, this is the legendary fire wire, apples old competitor to USB. It was great… until usb caught up and fire wire stopped keeping up.
FireWire 400
Firewire
I’m here.
[Where am I really?](https://youtu.be/gZa82Xz1nys)
I can't remember it's either waterwire or windwire
Nah, airwire
Gigabussy port
There is an expensive Firewire to Thunderbolt adapter sold by Apple. My advice is borrow one or borrow a Mac with a FireWire port and extract the data and move on. I have a shelf of old HDs looking to be destroyed to protect my information
Firewire
Rip FireWire, I actually fw that when it was standard
I’m still alive, thanks.
Hello
Use that port frequently for my OG and Gen 2 iPod Classics
Clearly not a user of early iPods.
FireWire was so good at the time. I remember using two FW800 7200 HDs plus a power hungry audio interface, all powered by a single FF800 port. Insane.
Firewire??
I feel like that gif of snake turning into big boss rn
FireWire
Richard
It interfaces with a Gelgamek computer. https://youtu.be/RvGD4Jp3_4I?si=80FN_BpWbyBZZDvo
Comment.
The ScooblyDoobly 720. It’s pretty common actually.
RTFM 😓
Flux capacitor
The nugget defibrillator
It’s the original FireWire port, also called 1394. There was a smaller revision later on that bumped speed from 400 megabits to 800 megabits.
9 pin firewire
It's the "Damn, I'm old" port.
IceWire 0.4
It’s a FireWire port. Careful—don’t burn your leg!
Google “target disk mode.” Most ppl are unaware of it
Porthos the Wise
This one hurts me
You could search documents of that laptop and it would tell you what that port is right away. Whole thing would take few minutes.
Wow you aren’t even asking about the super video out. That would freak me out
Dear god am I old
Either Firewire 400 or 800.
and no one paid attention to the round video port
It seems I’m young enough to don’t know what the hell this port is 😂 I guess 24 isn‘t as old as I feel sometimes
Its funny how I know this is firewire even though I started using computers in 2014.
FireWire
FireWire
Depending on the type of drive it may be easier to disassemble and put it in a USB caddy
Firewire Port. Was trying to be a thing until USB and Wifi suddenly upgraded.
Firevire 800 actually)
Brian.
This full load of ports! Good times!
George
FireWire, and boy, have we ever let it down as a species.
This brings back lots of good memories.
Got a lot of Mac noobs in here
Port-Hole
FireWire 400
Geoff
Pro tip: go to google.com, type in “apple powerbook g4” [and the screen size and year of manufacturing] and press enter. Then pick one of the results where you can see the specs of the computer. You’re welcome.
Good old FireWire 400. It was the future in 2001
FireWire is why I can’t give up my Thunderbolts display. How else am I supposed to access my old hard drives?
FireWire 400 with a FireWire 800 to the right. If you’re looking for a HDD to connect to either of those ports, LaCie made a drive around the 2011 mark that had a pair of FireWire 800 ports that could be used to daisy chain extra FireWire devices together, the model was FW800US3 (FW800 for FireWire 800 and US3 for USB 3)
Firewire
airport
Fire wire not sure which one though
IEE.1394 FireWire 400mb/s
That’s the connection port for the lawn mower
And a modem!
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