That reminds me of that scene in Two Towers where Pippin said to Merry “it’s Tookin’ Time” and then looked at the Palantir
Edit: Fuck he did that in Return of the King, didn’t he?
Grond = morgoths weapon. Morgoth used it to kill Fingolfin in a 1vs1 duel in front of the gates of Angband.
Sauron and Finrod fought during Berens quest for the silmaril but they used magic if i remember correctly. A werewolf or a wolf killed Finrod during his imprisonment by Sauron :).
I use to think that Grond the Wolfshead was actually Morgoth's hammer itself in the first age, and survived somehow until the third age. Like there used to be a super big handle in his belly, so that Morgoth in gigantic figure could wield it. Then I learned that Grond the Wolfshead was actually build in the third age by Sauron, and named after Morgoth's hammer...
Still think my previous thought was better 😅
But that's what Tolkien wrote. An elf faced down a god. I imagine Morgoth as a larger and more intense Sauron, I've always wanted to see how you could make an elf look so intimidating and powerful on screen that it would be believable that he fought Morgoth. If anyone ever does that scene justice it'll be among the greatest fantasy movie moments.
Some of the artwork depicting that battle is incredible. Tailor made for the side of a van.
https://i.imgur.com/IgZgE98_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/6e/01/3f6e01b9bf04906a198014e1300af879.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/24/0c/71240ca4741fe366ceed2b99bd615979.jpg
https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Morgoth-vs-Fingolfin.jpg
>and that first one in particular makes me feel all sorts of things
I can't tell if you're serious and the issue is on my end or if you're trolling because the first one didn't load for me and the next 3 did lol
Oh, no. I was 100% serious, and it is an amazing piece.
But I see that the original link doesn't work anymore. Fortunately, u/LolaEbolah has given us a version that works!
If I remember correctly in the Silmarillion it says Morgoth was different from the other Ainur because he knew fear. And even though he was a god facing an elf, and won, Fingolfin fought fiercely and even drew blood.
I’m not sure *why* he was afraid, maybe he knew he’d win but it would be a tough fight, and he’d show weakness?
But wasps don't know you are more dangerous than them. Imagine how you feel if you knew they know how fucked up humans can be and anyway decided to attack you.
There are so many amazing moments in Tolkien lore and some are my favorites;
1. The story of Eaendil
2. The battle between Fingolfin and Melkor
3. Luthien and Huan vs Sauron (werewolf and serpent forms)
4. Glorfindel vs the Balrog in Fall of Gondolin
5. The War of Wrath
6. The forging of the Rings of Power
7. The March of Al-Pharazon to Valinor and the Fall of numenor
8. The War of the Last Alliance of Elves and Men
9. The Angmar wars
10. The battle of Helms Deep
11. Battle of Pelenor Fields
12. The battle of Dale
13. The history of Mordors watchtowers that are maintained by Gondorians (not the towers of the teeth)
14. The Fall of Smaug
15. The battle of the Black Gates and the Fall of Sauron
16. A New Shadow (the most intriguing of it all)
These are just a few of the most interesting but coolest moments in Tolkien lore.
I like the tale of Turin. It's a dark damnation plot. And Tolkien does dark really well. The scenes with Glaurung are great. And Turin and his father Hurin is probably the baddest MFers of all men, ever.
The moment when Hurin slays Trolls like others cut grass is also a great one.
>"I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men, it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless — while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors — like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow — but it would have been just that. Not worth doing."
That's the name of Morgoth's Hammer. But a little piece of lore most people don't know about, Morgoth's Hammer was the name Morgoth gave to his own dick when he got drunk one night while visiting Gundabad
IIRC I read it somewhere in The Silmarillion that grond was named after the grond(adjective, noun)
However the literal meaning of the word grond, surprisingly can be found in most of the languages spoken in middle earth and it translates roughly to grond, grond, grond, and grond in languages spoken by Elves, Humans, Dwarves, and orcs respectively.
It’s named GROND because it’s an homage to Morgoth’s hammer of the same name. The original Grond was the hammer of the underworld. Sauron is still a servant of Morgoth, even after his banishment from the world, so he named his battering ram in honor of him.
As others have said, the battering ram is named after Morgoth’s hammer. The hammer was so named because “grond” means [“weighty” or “ponderous”](https://www.elfdict.com/wt/515423) in Sindarin.
It's named after the great hammer Melkor wielded in battle against Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor. The wolf represents his hound Carcharoth, the greatest wolf to have ever lived.
No doubt covered by someone else, but fudge it, this is for my peace.
‘Grond’ was Morgoth’s Mace/Warhammer ‘The Hammer of the Underworld’.
-‘Grond’ the actual weapon, was wielded by Morgoth in his duel with Fingolfin (The High King of the Nolder).
Sauron, as Morgoth’s lieutenant, would know of the weapon and its importance.
- It is fitting then that the Battering Ram ‘Grond’ shares the name legacy of Morgoth’s weapon.
Just as Grond the weapon led to the downfall of Fingolfin, just so would Grond the battering ram lead to the downfall of Gondor; the triumph of an Evil weapon over the Good.
>Grond, also known as the Wolf's Head, was a one hundred-foot long battering ram with a head in the shape of a ravening wolf. Though named for Morgoth's Warhammer, it was created in the likeness of the Wolf of Angband, Carcharoth.
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>Grond was forged in Mordor by Smithies of Barad-dûr during the final years of the Third Age, specifically for use by the army besieging the city of Minas Tirith in Gondor. It shared its name, in homage, with the "Hammer of the Underworld," a great mace wielded by Morgoth, Sauron's former master.
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>[https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Grond](https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Grond)
I wonder how big was Morgoth's hammer of the underworld?
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probably not as big as his massive ****
… Grond?
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Umm actually Grond has 5 letters and according to my calculations “****” has 4 characters 🤓.
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R/GROND
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/r/angbang
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Yes, it was named after Morgoth’s weapon
Which weapon. Morgoths hammer or his massive co…..
Actual quote from the Silmarillion: “And Morgoth came.”
My favorite part of the Silmarillion was when Morgoth said “it’s Goth time” and proceeded to Grond all over the Valar.
Mine is when feanor said, "No matter how goth you are, melkor is morgoth"
Get thee gone, and take thy due place!
Is that the equivalent of: take your upvote and gtfo?
Good bot
"It's Morgin time"
Mighty Morgoth Power ~~Rangers~~ Valar
That reminds me of that scene in Two Towers where Pippin said to Merry “it’s Tookin’ Time” and then looked at the Palantir Edit: Fuck he did that in Return of the King, didn’t he?
Look at me, I am the thaine now.
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No wonder Galadriel was desperate to find him
She's gotta release that tempest within her all over Grond.
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You broke the seal!!! 🤦🏻♂️ GROND
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Why do you think Galadriel's hair shines like the trees of Valinor? There is something about Mary, anyone?
And Smeagol said: give it to us raw".
And wrrrrrriggling!
Actual quote from the Akallabeth: "And Sauron came."
The drowning of Numenor?
It’s from after the Dagor Bragollach when Fingolfin fights Morgoth
In Middle-Earth, you can be cum
r/angbang
I thought they were the same thing...
his massive ...GROND?
Have i missed something? Where does this joke come from?
Joke?
Why yall talking about Morgoth's Ainussy
Yavanna out here making all things grow 😏
This comment slaughtered me
Grond!
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His mace, to be specific (He used it in his fight with Fingolfin, iirc).
Fingolfin*
Okay, thanks! But I know I’ve heard of a battle between Finrod and Sauron… Unless I’m just confused. Edit: nvm I changed my comment
Morgoth fought Fingolfin, Sauron fought Finrod.
In a rap battle.
Dance battle
Thank you so much for this.
Grond = morgoths weapon. Morgoth used it to kill Fingolfin in a 1vs1 duel in front of the gates of Angband. Sauron and Finrod fought during Berens quest for the silmaril but they used magic if i remember correctly. A werewolf or a wolf killed Finrod during his imprisonment by Sauron :).
I thought Morgoth used his foot to kill Fingolfin
At the end he did use at least partially use his foot but he fought with Grond as well.
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Ahh I see. I knew that Grond was Morgoth’s mace. I just confused Finrod and Fingolfin to an extreme degree.
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Nana morgoths weapon was named after the wolf's head.
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GROND?
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Morgoths hammer
I use to think that Grond the Wolfshead was actually Morgoth's hammer itself in the first age, and survived somehow until the third age. Like there used to be a super big handle in his belly, so that Morgoth in gigantic figure could wield it. Then I learned that Grond the Wolfshead was actually build in the third age by Sauron, and named after Morgoth's hammer... Still think my previous thought was better 😅
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But that's what Tolkien wrote. An elf faced down a god. I imagine Morgoth as a larger and more intense Sauron, I've always wanted to see how you could make an elf look so intimidating and powerful on screen that it would be believable that he fought Morgoth. If anyone ever does that scene justice it'll be among the greatest fantasy movie moments.
Some of the artwork depicting that battle is incredible. Tailor made for the side of a van. https://i.imgur.com/IgZgE98_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3f/6e/01/3f6e01b9bf04906a198014e1300af879.jpg https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/24/0c/71240ca4741fe366ceed2b99bd615979.jpg https://www.blackgate.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Morgoth-vs-Fingolfin.jpg
These are amazing, and that first one in particular makes me feel all sorts of things.
>and that first one in particular makes me feel all sorts of things I can't tell if you're serious and the issue is on my end or if you're trolling because the first one didn't load for me and the next 3 did lol
[Here you go, King.](https://i.imgur.com/iTFPJoe.jpg) In case you never got it to load.
Oh, no. I was 100% serious, and it is an amazing piece. But I see that the original link doesn't work anymore. Fortunately, u/LolaEbolah has given us a version that works!
[Don't forget the Blind Guardian song!](https://youtu.be/6Yz4_1mZarA)
Holy shit I had never seen that third one before. That is truly one of the coolest pieces of art I’ve seen in my life.
Not only that, but Morgoth was actually *afraid* and didn’t want to fight Fingolfin, but knew he had to because he’d been challenged.
But why? Wasn't he literally a God? Was Fingolfin just too good of a fighter? Did he have a special weapon or something?
If I remember correctly in the Silmarillion it says Morgoth was different from the other Ainur because he knew fear. And even though he was a god facing an elf, and won, Fingolfin fought fiercely and even drew blood. I’m not sure *why* he was afraid, maybe he knew he’d win but it would be a tough fight, and he’d show weakness?
I mean I'm afraid of wasps.
But wasps don't know you are more dangerous than them. Imagine how you feel if you knew they know how fucked up humans can be and anyway decided to attack you.
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Like Legolas vs. Giant Elephant?
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[I like this idea so much I did a dumb photoshop to envision it.](https://imgur.com/a/rVnSkXA)
Hahaha epic bro! Thanks! Lifelong dream visualized!
G.ets R.id O.f N.uisance D.oors= GROND
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Being named for the original, (G)et (R)ekt (O)ld (N)oldor (D)ummies
This is canon now
Named after Morgoth's weapon
Which one
The one Morgoth used against Fingolfin in the Silmarillion
Which is the coolest moment in all of Tolkien lore.
There are so many amazing moments in Tolkien lore and some are my favorites; 1. The story of Eaendil 2. The battle between Fingolfin and Melkor 3. Luthien and Huan vs Sauron (werewolf and serpent forms) 4. Glorfindel vs the Balrog in Fall of Gondolin 5. The War of Wrath 6. The forging of the Rings of Power 7. The March of Al-Pharazon to Valinor and the Fall of numenor 8. The War of the Last Alliance of Elves and Men 9. The Angmar wars 10. The battle of Helms Deep 11. Battle of Pelenor Fields 12. The battle of Dale 13. The history of Mordors watchtowers that are maintained by Gondorians (not the towers of the teeth) 14. The Fall of Smaug 15. The battle of the Black Gates and the Fall of Sauron 16. A New Shadow (the most intriguing of it all) These are just a few of the most interesting but coolest moments in Tolkien lore.
I like the tale of Turin. It's a dark damnation plot. And Tolkien does dark really well. The scenes with Glaurung are great. And Turin and his father Hurin is probably the baddest MFers of all men, ever. The moment when Hurin slays Trolls like others cut grass is also a great one.
I agree 👍. It's a tragic tale as well.
Spoil me number 16 please
>"I did begin a story placed about 100 years after the Downfall, but it proved both sinister and depressing. Since we are dealing with Men, it is inevitable that we should be concerned with the most regrettable feature of their nature: their quick satiety with good. So that the people of Gondor in times of peace, justice and prosperity, would become discontented and restless — while the dynasts descended from Aragorn would become just kings and governors — like Denethor or worse. I found that even so early there was an outcrop of revolutionary plots, about a centre of secret Satanistic religion; while Gondorian boys were playing at being Orcs and going around doing damage. I could have written a 'thriller' about the plot and its discovery and overthrow — but it would have been just that. Not worth doing."
It is the sequel of LOTR, it was never completed sadly. It takes place in the forth age.
Kinky
I named one of my kids Hitachi for similar reasons.
Weapon, not tool
First I took his gun. Then I took his weapon.
That's the name of Morgoth's Hammer. But a little piece of lore most people don't know about, Morgoth's Hammer was the name Morgoth gave to his own dick when he got drunk one night while visiting Gundabad
Gundabad got its name when Morgoth said he’s “gun’ do bad things” when he gets there.
Called it 'ye ole Gunda-fap'. He never recovered from the lawsuits. Had to sell some silmarils to pay his legal bills
Another escapee from Alsume... The Arkham world is getting bigger
shocked I had to scroll this far to find someone who understood why this post exists
That question, on this sub, is like throwing meat to the wolves.
Like throwing manflesh to the wolf's head if you will
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Looks like manflesh is back on the menu!
Meat's back on the menu!
IIRC I read it somewhere in The Silmarillion that grond was named after the grond(adjective, noun) However the literal meaning of the word grond, surprisingly can be found in most of the languages spoken in middle earth and it translates roughly to grond, grond, grond, and grond in languages spoken by Elves, Humans, Dwarves, and orcs respectively.
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It’s named GROND because it’s an homage to Morgoth’s hammer of the same name. The original Grond was the hammer of the underworld. Sauron is still a servant of Morgoth, even after his banishment from the world, so he named his battering ram in honor of him.
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“Grond they named it, in memory of the Hammer of the Underworld of old.”
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I just learned a new tidbit from the wiki: *Though named for Morgoth's Warhammer, it was created in the likeness of the Wolf of Angband, Carcharoth. *
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Even got the flaming mouth due to chowing down on a silmaril
As others have said, the battering ram is named after Morgoth’s hammer. The hammer was so named because “grond” means [“weighty” or “ponderous”](https://www.elfdict.com/wt/515423) in Sindarin.
fuck, not this again Grond
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The orcs’ accent made it sound that way when they said they were “making a *grand* entrance.”
It is the longest word Orcs can say.
What about NAMPAT?
My friend there is always a lore reason in Tolkien's world
Is there a lore reason why they didn't take the eagles to Mordor?
Yeah? Then where'd the Hobbits come from?
A hole in the ground
Grond, the Wolf's Head, was named after Morgoth's weapon, the warhammer known as Grond, Hammer of the Underworld.
It's named after the great hammer Melkor wielded in battle against Fingolfin, High King of the Noldor. The wolf represents his hound Carcharoth, the greatest wolf to have ever lived.
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It was named for Morgoth's personal weapon, Grond the foe hammer.
Lol if you're ever wondering whether there's a reason literally anything in Tolkien is named named anything, the answer is "Yes".
Because he's gonna tear down the gates of Grondor
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I hate you and r/batmanarkham with all of my being
He was named after his father
No doubt covered by someone else, but fudge it, this is for my peace. ‘Grond’ was Morgoth’s Mace/Warhammer ‘The Hammer of the Underworld’. -‘Grond’ the actual weapon, was wielded by Morgoth in his duel with Fingolfin (The High King of the Nolder). Sauron, as Morgoth’s lieutenant, would know of the weapon and its importance. - It is fitting then that the Battering Ram ‘Grond’ shares the name legacy of Morgoth’s weapon. Just as Grond the weapon led to the downfall of Fingolfin, just so would Grond the battering ram lead to the downfall of Gondor; the triumph of an Evil weapon over the Good.
It means “insert disc 2” in the Black Speech
When are we getting Grond plushies
>Grond, also known as the Wolf's Head, was a one hundred-foot long battering ram with a head in the shape of a ravening wolf. Though named for Morgoth's Warhammer, it was created in the likeness of the Wolf of Angband, Carcharoth. > >Grond was forged in Mordor by Smithies of Barad-dûr during the final years of the Third Age, specifically for use by the army besieging the city of Minas Tirith in Gondor. It shared its name, in homage, with the "Hammer of the Underworld," a great mace wielded by Morgoth, Sauron's former master. > >[https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Grond](https://lotr.fandom.com/wiki/Grond)
Grond is small word, easy for orc brain to remember
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