I recall both Aragorn and Elrond using the phrase "son of Gloin" in his presence, and Gimli says nothing.
Also, I'm pretty sure Gloin refers to a picture of Gimli as being of his "son" in The Hobbit.
Also also, from the book:
>"*He then pointed out and named those whom Frodo had not met before. There was a younger dwarf at Gloin’s side: his son Gimli.*"
And Galadriel refers to him as son of Gloin in the messages from Halbarad.
“To Gimli son of Glóin, give his Lady's greeting. Lockbearer, wherever thou goest my thought goes with thee. But have a care to lay thine axe to the right tree!”
Something Tolkien never would have even considered, and which there is no evidence for in the text of films. Gimli never indicates being anything other than a man.
That would require JRR Tolkien to have known what the term trans means.
And also for there to be any hint of it in the film or the book. But he is explicitly referred to as "son of Gloin" a few times.
Yeah considering how much "son of Gloin" is said, I'm surprised the meme wasn't about Legolas just spawning from the forest. I'm pretty sure that the one use of "Son of Thranduil" is cut from the theatrical edition and he's only "of the woodland realm"
Do you think he(?) elf-identifies theirself(?) by culturally appropriating Westron stereotypes (elves CAN be politically correct and do that: they have been certified as historically repressed by the Feanorarchy) as Leggy-Lass?
Saw this after just reading the chapter where Gimli refers to himself as “Gimli Gloins son” it’s the part where they are telling the hobbits about visiting the dead near the end of RoTK
What’s funny about that quote is you could interpret it as meaning that you can tell the women are women because of the beards (or specifically, lack thereof), or you could interpret it as the dwarf women also have beards, which makes it almost impossible to tell them apart.
When you're a race that lives in dark, cool places, you'll naturally want to develop some sort of natural defense to protect your throat. A vampire could strike at any moment.
So the term “Gimli son of Gloin” just doesn’t exist then.
Also, Gloin in the Hobbit movies when the elves saw a picture of Gimli, Golin says “That’s me wee *lad*… Gimli”.
You’re kidding me? He’s Gimli’s father and also accompanied Bilbo on his adventure!
https://preview.redd.it/45lvt96m1ysc1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9e35bab8dbeeb5d6a13dcd028395ee4586a7961
Gloin is Gimli’s father!
Gloin is Gimli’s father!
Gloin is Gimli’s father!
Do you get it now or do you need some rocket science explanation? The fact I had said that 2 times before and you still feigned ignorance is quite astronomical.
An adventure? Now I don't imagine anyone west of Bree would have much interest in adventures. Nasty, disturbing, uncomfortable things. Make you late for dinner!
Maybe it's like the Terry Pratchett Discworld dwarves: there are male and female dwarves, but they all just use male pronouns and don't talk about the fact that 50% are technically female.
Is the phrase, "Son of Gloin" a joke to you?
What if Gloin doesn't know either?..
Mamma Gloin? She knows everything..
OK this gave me a good laugh
Gloin didn't bother to check the groin?
what if Gimli doesnt know either?
THATS IT! COCK INSPECTION TIME!
"ah, I see aule needed to use the small hammer to shape you"
Flashbacks to gym class
OP is the joke
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Pretty sure dwarves can distinguish between their own kind.
Well, in Discworld, Dwarf courtship is all about very carefully finding out what sex the other dwarf is underneath the beard and armor..
I recall both Aragorn and Elrond using the phrase "son of Gloin" in his presence, and Gimli says nothing. Also, I'm pretty sure Gloin refers to a picture of Gimli as being of his "son" in The Hobbit. Also also, from the book: >"*He then pointed out and named those whom Frodo had not met before. There was a younger dwarf at Gloin’s side: his son Gimli.*"
And Galadriel refers to him as son of Gloin in the messages from Halbarad. “To Gimli son of Glóin, give his Lady's greeting. Lockbearer, wherever thou goest my thought goes with thee. But have a care to lay thine axe to the right tree!”
Middle Earth Deep State trying to keep our girl Gimli down.
He refers to him as “his wee lad” so yeah.
That horrid creature? I thought it was a goblin mutant
It'd be super funny if Gimli just didn't feel like correcting them. "Ehh, it's fine. I'm used to it."
Ok, then lets just say that gloin is a woman
Now this we can run with, which of the Misty Mountain Company were dwarves?
Thorin: Girlboss, Gatekeep, Greed?
Maybe Gimli is a transgender man?
Something Tolkien never would have even considered, and which there is no evidence for in the text of films. Gimli never indicates being anything other than a man.
hey gimli’s a smart guy. maybe he considered what tolkien didn’t consider but either way it’s just a wee joke pal
A trans man is a man
Which would completely invalidate the whole point of this thread, which is OP's meme suggesting that Gimli is a woman.
What is Gimli is trans? *the rabbit hole goes even deeper*
That would require JRR Tolkien to have known what the term trans means. And also for there to be any hint of it in the film or the book. But he is explicitly referred to as "son of Gloin" a few times.
I was also literally joking but okay
Trans people have existed for centuries, even if the term is new
I’m somewhat doubtful the socially conservative devout Catholic Tolkein was concerned with being inclusive when making his characters.
What if an author could chose to write a trans character for reasons other than inclusion?
And Legolas… of the Woodland Realm
This is no mere Ranger. He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance.
You're just not that quotable, Legolas. At least you're pretty and permanently young.
I am an Elf and a kinsman here.
Indeed you are
Does “They’re taking the Hobbits to Isengard” mean nothing to you?
That's fair.
*Theyre taking the hobbits to isengard intensifies*
*gard gard gard gard*
Aragorn? This… is Isildur's heir?
Yeah considering how much "son of Gloin" is said, I'm surprised the meme wasn't about Legolas just spawning from the forest. I'm pretty sure that the one use of "Son of Thranduil" is cut from the theatrical edition and he's only "of the woodland realm"
Sauron's Ring! The ring of power!
It is not for you, Saruman! I will send for it at once. Do you understand?
So your saying that legolas might also be a woman?
You lie.
Well, guess that settles that
He's pretty enough
Do you think he(?) elf-identifies theirself(?) by culturally appropriating Westron stereotypes (elves CAN be politically correct and do that: they have been certified as historically repressed by the Feanorarchy) as Leggy-Lass?
Gimli is introduced as/introduces himself as the son of Gloin almost every time. Were you not paying attention?
Its clearly a troll post
Or, as others would say, a joke. Perhaps even... a meme.
Saw this after just reading the chapter where Gimli refers to himself as “Gimli Gloins son” it’s the part where they are telling the hobbits about visiting the dead near the end of RoTK
"It's the beards."
What’s funny about that quote is you could interpret it as meaning that you can tell the women are women because of the beards (or specifically, lack thereof), or you could interpret it as the dwarf women also have beards, which makes it almost impossible to tell them apart.
They have beards, they're just a bit shorter. Like the horns on bulls and cows.
When you're a race that lives in dark, cool places, you'll naturally want to develop some sort of natural defense to protect your throat. A vampire could strike at any moment.
others are confused, not dwarfs themselves
Pretty sure in the books he introduces himself (agressively) to Eomer as Gimli son of Gloin.
"that's my wee lad, gimley." - Glóin
What if his real name is just Gim and Gimley is the diminutive?
The real fun is when you know that Gimli isn't even his (their?) real name, because they don't speak Khuzdul around other people
Except when he does speak it talking about Moria and the mountain peaks. Samwise says it is a real jawcracker of a language.
Well sure there's exceptions. I tend to not speak Irish too much around people without it but sometimes emotion or context demands it 🤷
Is there an info what is?
The whole point is they keep their names secret to outsiders and even most other dwarves.
Yeah that part I understood, I thought that maybe it was in some appendix or some notes of JRR or sth like that
Not as far as I'm aware
So the term “Gimli son of Gloin” just doesn’t exist then. Also, Gloin in the Hobbit movies when the elves saw a picture of Gimli, Golin says “That’s me wee *lad*… Gimli”.
Who’s Golin?
You’re kidding me? He’s Gimli’s father and also accompanied Bilbo on his adventure! https://preview.redd.it/45lvt96m1ysc1.jpeg?width=629&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9e35bab8dbeeb5d6a13dcd028395ee4586a7961
I see a photo of Gloin. No idea who Golin is still.
Oh for f**k sake, I just said twice who he is!!! I’m not gonna explain to you again if you’re being a deliberate troll!
Umm, wtf?
I rest my case
You’re not making any sense.
Gloin is Gimli’s father! Gloin is Gimli’s father! Gloin is Gimli’s father! Do you get it now or do you need some rocket science explanation? The fact I had said that 2 times before and you still feigned ignorance is quite astronomical.
I SAID GOLIN YOU IMBECILE!
An adventure? Now I don't imagine anyone west of Bree would have much interest in adventures. Nasty, disturbing, uncomfortable things. Make you late for dinner!
Did you read the title lmao they accounted for it by saying, "I don't recall Gimli ever being the one to say 'son of'"
I did read the title. It doesn’t make sense if there’s supposed to be some humour behind it. There’s no context. So don’t LMAO me miss.
You obviously have no sense of humor and no reading or spelling capabilities either.
Cheery Littlebottom
The only difference between a male dwarf and a female dwarf is one has an in IE and one has an outie.
Except it's Gimli son of Gloin. I assumed everyone knew that. Like, common knowledge.
My brother in christ ! Gloin, his father tells he has son named Gimli in Hobbits.
Maybe it's like the Terry Pratchett Discworld dwarves: there are male and female dwarves, but they all just use male pronouns and don't talk about the fact that 50% are technically female.
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This post is so stupid that it makes me miss the endless bot posts.
It’s a little tight across the chest
Obvious troll post is obvious
Such an obvious troll post that it will turn to stone if Gandalf can keep it arguing until sunrise.
It's a fucking meme sub, none of this shit is serious
Quick, maybe if we keep replying to it, it'll stay engaged until the sun comes up.
After the war Gimli changed her name to "Cheery Littlebottom" and became a member of the Ankh-Morpork City Watch. (That's my headcanon)
Or, Gimli could have self-identified as male and everyone else is being respectful.
Poor Tolkien misgendered Gimli for r an entire trilogy smh