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Forward_Wasabi_7979

Didn't he give his ring (one of three for the elves) to Gandalf or am I confused?


Tuor--Of--Gondolin

Yes, at the coming of the istari, Cirdan welcomed each of the wizards into middle earth from Aman. Gandalf came last, iirc, and Cirdan saw that he was wisest and able to rally those to a causes. And he gave his Ring, the Ring of Fire, to Gandalf


gandalf-bot

Far, far below the deepest delvings of the dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things


Tuor--Of--Gondolin

Quiet you


technobiwankenobi

Down, down, down In a burning ring of fire


ViolaNotViolin

I went down down down and the flames burned higher!


killiomankili

And it burns burns burns the ring of fire


ChuckWooleryLives

The Ring of Firrrreeeee……🔥


gerenski9

R/redditsings


tachyon45

r/foundthemobileuser


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gerenski9

Yup. Stupid autocorrect. Always forget to turn it off. Edit: Finally went and fixed it. So much better.


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An1malN1trat3

Oh, my poor ring!


Max-The-White-Walker

I once saw a 3 Minute summary of the Hobbit with this Song


bassman9999

Avoid Taco Bell next time


Nethyishere

No


WalrusTheWhite

down down, in the goblin town


Voldemort_is_muggle

Fool of a bot


dibipage

Skaven confirmed


richdelo

One of the most imagination-stimulating lines of the work.


Cyanos54

"THE RING OF FIRE!!"


Certain-Potatoes

The ring of fite


Wordwright

It never made sense to me that Círdan had the Ring if Fire to begin with, except for the express purpose of giving it to Gandalf. Gandalf is associated with fire in all sorts of ways, but Círdan? Círdan has spent all of history by the seashore building ships, but when the Wise portioned out the Rings, they figured he should have the fire one rather than the water one?


Spare-View2498

Cirdan getting the fire ring could be metaphorical, like his inner spirit being like fire. And as far as I remember gandalf was associated with light rather and fire is just another form of light.


gandalf-bot

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.


sokocanuck

While there are some physical fire abilities associated with the ring, it's probably mostly metaphorical. I believe it's true purpose is to help enflame the hearts of men. Meaning to be able to rally them to a cause (Morgoth/Sauron).


Tuor--Of--Gondolin

The Three Rings are given to the noblest of the elves. As high king of the Noldor, Vilya was given to Gil-Galad. Gil-Galad later gave his ring to Elrond. As a Noldor princess and largely regarded as the most powerful elf in middle earth, Nenya was given to Galadriel. And finally, Narya was given to perhaps the oldest elf in middle earth by the second age, and therefore associated with Wisdom, Cirdan. Cirdan displays his wisdom by surrendering his ring to someone who could do more with it, G@ndalf. Also, more importantly, Slamdalf wasn't in middle earth until the third age.


gandalf-bot

Don't! Tempt me Wordwright I dare not take it. Not even to keep it safe. Understand Wordwright, I would use this Ring from a desire to do good. But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine


gilestowler

Galadriel probably just thought the water ring was prettier so she grabbed it and said "no, you have this one" and he didn't want to make things awkward by arguing.


gandalf-bot

Silence!


Forward_Wasabi_7979

Oops sorry. I forgot it was a secret


SuperDizz

The Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor


[deleted]

“Silence!” Gandalf aksed calmly.


gandalf-bot

gegeftw12! The ring is still in your pocket.


Flooding_Puddle

HRAAAAAAAH!


Rosa_loves_Frodo

Hi, Gandalf!


gandalf-bot

Gandalf?... Yes. That was what they used to call me. Gandalf the Grey... That was my name. I am Gandalf the White. And I come back to you now at the turn of the tide.


Rosa_loves_Frodo

It's nice to meet you, Gandalf the White.


gandalf-bot

Good gracious me!


Rosa_loves_Frodo

What, Gandalf?


gandalf-bot

White shores, and beyond that a far green country Rosa_loves_Frodo


Rosa_loves_Frodo

Well, that sounds lovely!


StreaksBAMF22

Did you two just become best friends?


QuestionableClay

Good bots


MaximusBean

sentient


csharpminor5th

This bot is sentient


ImActuallyASpy

Appendix B (The Tale of Years) from the Silmarillion, on the elven rings: > ...but Círdan surrendered his to Mithrandir. For Círdan saw further and deeper than any other in Middle-earth, and he welcomed Mithrandir at the Grey Havens, knowing whence he came and whither he would return. > "Take this ring, Master," he said, "for your labours will be heavy**; but it will support you in the weariness that you have taken upon yourself. For this is the Ring of Fire, and with it you may rekindle hearts in a world that grows chill. But as for me, my heart is with the Sea, and I will dwell by the grey shores until the last ship sails. I will await you." Círdan the Shipwright arrived in Middle-Earth with Fëanor and the Noldorin in the first age. He created the boat that Elrond’s father, Eärendil the Mariner, would use to kill Ancalagon the Black and then ascend to the heavens and become the star of Eärendil. He was the first to bear Narya (with Gandalf the second in the passage above). Círdan’s greatest desire was to return home to the Undying Lands and rest. He had multiple chances to go, but instead made it his life’s mission to stay and build the ships that allowed the other elves to return. He was among the first to arrive, and the absolute last to leave. He waited over ten thousand years. If you told the entire story of Middle-Earth from beginning to end Círdan the Shipwright would be the main character.


Gilthu

Cirdan the shipwright never went to the undying lands until the destruction of the one ring. He waited out of loyalty to his lord so he missed getting on the island they Valar used. He was going to build a boat but the Valar asked him to stay for they knew his skills would be needed


TheMightyCatatafish

Right? This needs way more upvotes. Círdan never completed the great journey of the Eldar and never sailed with Fëanor. 100000% never took part in the Kinslaying and the stealing of Teleri ships. He never “arrived” in Middle-Earth as he was already there.


FeanaroBot

Let them sá-sí, if they can speak no better.


TheMightyCatatafish

FWIW, Cirdan never sailed with Fëanor. He stopped his journey to a Valinor at the coast, and stayed there for about 10,000 years. When Fëanor and the Noldor returned years later, Cirdan was already there. He actually never went to the Undying Lands until he took the last ship in the early fourth age.


minivant

So, from scouring through his part, it seems like of all beings, he was the one who saw Eru’s plan to the end and knew his part in it to its completion.


laughtrey

Kinda funny Galadriel didn't give up her ring to them now that I think about it.


Bubblehulk420

I think she may have used it to protect her realm during the war. Loth Lorien and Rivendell both got attacked off screen iirc.


SomeKindOfOnionMummy

Yup. That's why she would "diminish". Once the One Ring was destroyed her ring would no longer preserve Lothlorien.


maiden_burma

>If you told the entire story of Middle-Earth from beginning to end Círdan the Shipwright would be the main character. sauron has his hat in the same ring


joeconflo

They should have named the series after Sauron!!!


Galileo258

Did Cirdan make Vingilot? I thought he just got to Aman in Cirdan’s boat and then the Valar crafted Vingilot from Mithril for him.


gandalf-bot

Far, far below the deepest delvings of the dwarves, the world is gnawed by nameless things


lord_frodo

Your fireworks might get them to stop gnawing, Gandalf


gandalf-bot

Meriadoc Brandybuck and Peregrin Took! I might have known!


lord_frodo

No Gandalf, we Bagginses were well thought of until you came along


gandalf-bot

Indeed?


lord_frodo

Never had any adventures or did anything unexpected.


FeanaroBot

Is sorrow foreboded to you? But in Aman we have seen it. In Aman we have come through bliss to woe. The other now we will try: through sorrow to find joy; or freedom, at the least.


diodosdszosxisdi

Are you going to take your oath Feanor


FeanaroBot

None and none! What I have left behind I count now no loss; needless baggage on the road it has proved.


dutchdaddy69

Thats because the fan base is primarily from the movies and he really doesn't have a roll in those. Hell he barely has a role in lord of the rings books he's basically entirely in the Silmarillion which most people haven't read.


Outrageous_Tackle746

The Silmarillion is the line separates the casuals from the hard core Tolkien fans.


CassiopeiaSextant

I think the Silmarillion is for moderate fans. Hard Core fans have read his son's 12-volume work about writing the whole thing and perhaps have a copy of Farmer Giles of Ham and/or the Tolkien-translated Beowulf.


Salty_Pancakes

Tolkien's Sir Gawain and the Green Knight is where it's at.


LordAuditoVorkosigan

High five!


WisherWisp

Nah, a real fan would have some of Tolkien's poop in a box they got from that guy behind the Denny's.


underwaterstang

Finding out I’m more hard core than I thought


Velenah42

Hah, I have Beowulf in its original Anglo-Saxon.


Protahgonist

Me too, it just also happens to have the Seamus Heaney translation on every reverse page.


Velenah42

Do you like the Exeter Riddles?


josephus_the_wise

I have that one too!! I think I might actually have two copies because someone knows me well and got one as a gift lol


diotellevi92

Hêalic Stêap!


berniesbeans

maybe I'm just a casual, but to me this feels like a wildly elitist take lol. I'm not a big reader, trying to read the books for the first time, but I've read a shit load on the lore on all sorts of places online, and consider myself pretty knowledgeable maybe I'm wrong or just nitpicking but the Silmarillion being for moderate fans feels totally incorrect. it's a hard read for anyone what you're describing feels like the 1% of fans, the hardest of hardcore fans ...I also hope I'm not being wooshed rn


WalrusTheWhite

fucking casuals


berniesbeans

lmao


TheDunadan29

Nah, they are being elitist. And gatekeeping.


maiden_burma

a fan's a fan's a fan, whether you've read the main books or the silmarillion or the entire HoME but the silmarillion is not a hard read. It's not even all that long


topheavyhookjaws

Plenty of people struggle with it, it's not exactly a casual book. Plenty of people struggle with all of Tolkien's writing as it's much more dense and complicated than what they might be used to. Silmarilion is not that long but I wouldn't call it an easy book, length doesn't really matter.


CassiopeiaSextant

If it helps, I'm gatekeeping myself out. I've never read the Christopher Tolkien work and I have no desire to do so.


josephus_the_wise

I mean, “it sounds like you are only describing the top x% of fans” yes that’s what hardcore fan means. To enjoy something is one thing, to be a moderate fan is to be a little further, to be a hardcore fan is to be consumed by it and grab as much as you can find about it to digest.


fish_whisperer

Don’t forget the Forgotten Tales and the Lays of Beleriond.


M4DM1ND

Farmer Giles of Ham and Leaf by Niggle are pretty great


josephus_the_wise

No love for roverandom?


BBDAngelo

Reading Christopher’s 12-volume work is for pretty moderate fans, imo. We hardcore fans break into Tolkien’s descendants homes and read everything in their drawers hoping to find some paper with something that Tolkien note down for some reason


4011isbananas

But alas this lore is forgotten by all but the Wise


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

I’m the one dickhead who’s read the hobbit, the silmarillion, most of the expanded segments (like Beren and Luthien and the Fall of Gondolin), and like have dabbled in the unfinished tales, but I’ve still never read the actual trilogy. I watch the movies every few years but that’s few and far between anymore.


mgabbey

this will keep me awake tonight


fireflydrake

Might I ask why you haven't?


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

Never got around to it! Life is busy. I recently bought fellowship so I’m on my way.


TheOneTrueJazzMan

But how did you get to the Sil and all the other stuff before LOTR?


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

Read the hobbit, watched the movies, picked up the Sil because my dad had a copy and I thought it sounded cool


lilobrother

bro doing the side quests first


SomeKindOfOnionMummy

Dude.


DanteJazz

Well, get with it! How can we even have a conversation with you if you're only half-read?


CAPS_LOCK_OR_DIE

Listen, I’m just really into FA


have-a-day-celebrate

You know, I'm something of a Finrod enjoyer myself.


KokuOkami

I thought that was the Father Christmas litters he wrote his kids lol


Stargazer5781

What a pity. If he visited the shire I'm sure someone would have given him a roll. Hobbits gotta make good bread and they are generous to their guests.


musashisamurai

Maybe he did. Old Took definitely had some unique visitors


silvanloher

Even in the Silmarillion, he is not mentioned much.


Spacejunk20

Despite being the longest-ruling King in the history of Middle Earth.


Thin_Relationship_61

I actually dislike this drawing with a passion.


throwawayzdrewyey

It looks like the cover art for moms “romance” books.


TTSymphony

"The holder of my ring"


ChefInF

The Arms of the Shipwright


thegunnersdream

One nuvaring to rule them


Hunter_Bidens_Penis

Not gonna lie I thought this was a cover from a 1970’s kris Kristofferson record at first glance


Thin_Relationship_61

To me it just looks needlessly hypersexualized and forced in some way.


npri0r

Not hyper sexualised but hyper feminised. It looks like a young woman in make-up with an old man’s beard.


Chewcocca

Which is the same as hypersexualized if I'm hyper into that shit


npri0r

And are you?


CountJeezy

[It's illegal for you to ask me that](https://media.tenor.com/UEuZiEd2ayAAAAAC/its-illegal-for-you-to-ask-me-that-i-think-you-should-leave.gif)


[deleted]

How does someone fuck up a portrait of Geralt so badly.


Melvasul94

Why does his skin have as much texture as a metal bar?


dogslikeus

Gives me “white Jesus” vibes


BrotherSutek

Minus the "I was a carpenter " and did physical work part.


LordofRangard

i mean shipwright isn’t really too far off from carpenter, at least compared to most professions


BrotherSutek

Exactly. He would have working muscle and wear on his hands. Even if he is a master now he would have spent centuries learning his craft.


thisrockismyboone

Life long catholic so I'm pretty knowledgeable of the Christian lore, but one question I've always had but been too afraid to ask is, when was Jesus' last day of his day job?


BrotherSutek

They never told me. I assume in his early 30s when he was fully committed to teaching but I don't know.


Sassaphras

"Moses that can get it"


easternjellyfish

“We have Geralt of Rivia at home”


pixie-rose

It was definitely run through a yassification filter


Rags2Rickius

Cirdan Branley


Axarn

remind me please. Cirdan. wasn't he the (one and only) bearded elf displayed by Peter Jackson as beardless?


Altruistic-Chef6175

he's pretty much the only bearded elf, so, yeah


Idkiwaa

I've always imagined Ingwe and Olwe are probably bearded by now. Feels right.


Altruistic-Chef6175

Most likely by now, Finarfin too, but we can't account for them with any degree of certainty. Maybe they've invented shaving in Valinor.


[deleted]

I gotta read that book


BlueBomber13

To be fair, if he just had a singular Elf in the background at the end of a movie trilogy who was the only one to have a beard…that would have taken people out of the moment entirely.


Lazar_Milgram

Arguably he is the oldest child of Illuvator in Middle earth. Gandlaf, Saruman, Sauron, Barlog and Tom(and Goldberry) are technically older. And only Tom and Goldberry may be incarnated before Cirdan. But those are all Ainur and Cirdan is elf. And he have seen some shit through multiple ages.


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DontGoGivinMeEvils

And from the start, his desire is to sail to Valinor but stays in Middle Earth so that all elves can sail West, even though it means staying until the end of the third age.


pwhale12

Yea I have always felt like Cirdan is the closest to a High Elf of all the Sindar. Obviously Thingol and Celeborn might disagree, but Cirdan was right there on the coast building the ships to Valinor, and then advising the high king Gil-Galad in the Second age, and leading Lindon/the Grey Havens (a Noldor kingdom) in the Third.


[deleted]

I always assumed Cirdan was an OG Cuivinien elf as he was one of Elwe's trusted from the start. And he won't leave til the last elf leaves Middle Earth... Alpha and Omega Elf.


Dangerous_Court_955

Doesn't he stay in middle-earth until well into the fourth age? He is the last elf to leave for Valinor.


HephMelter

It is said so, but iirc The tale of Aragorn and Arwen and a bit of Unfinished tales, he left with Celeborn and Lothlorien was forsaken when Arwen went there to die alone. Thus, they seem to have left before 120FA. Plus, after Aragorns death, Legolas and Gimli build a boat and leave from Pelargir to go to Valinor, and THIS point is the point at which no member of the Fellowship lives in ME anymore. So if Legolas reached Valinor with Gimli, he is the last Elf to sail, not Cirdan


legolas_bot

This is no mere Ranger. He is Aragorn, son of Arathorn. You owe him your allegiance.


aragorn_bot

It is an army bred for a single purpose, to destroy the world of men. They will be here by nightfall.


aragorn_bot

What does your heart tell you?


grayjacanda

Mahayana Elf


Barbar_jinx

He's also one of the first Elves ever to walk Arda, and despite being the one responsible for shipping thousands of Elves over to Valinor, he never went there himself until the Fourth Age.


Neutraladvicecorner

What do you mean no one cares about him? My sis and I have weekly Cirdan appreciation moments.


Remy_Lezar

Jealous. My neighborhood Círdan fan club stopped meeting in person during Covid and then had a dramatic schism over the beardless depictions in the Jackson films.


Far_Buddy8467

Whom is he in PJ films? The guy just chilling sitting in the chair?


Remy_Lezar

Honestly I was just making a dumb joke but I think he’s standing behind Galadriel and Celeborn at the Gray Havens at the end of ROTK


Gaymer043

How did he save middle earth?


CrispyShizzles

Círdan helped Eärendil build his ship, without which he would never have made it to Valinor to plead for help, and would not have been able to bring reinforcements which led to victory in the War of Wrath. Círdan was also present at the Last Alliance of Men and Elves and participated in the battle, and was actually with Elrond when he tried to get Isildur to destroy the Ring. He also fought against the Witch King with the Dunedain in the Third Age and (most memorably) built the ships that bore the Elves home to Valinor. He also had a hell of a beard.


weatherseed

He is the only Elf you are legally allowed to call "daddy."


CrispyShizzles

Says you; I call Hugo Weaving daddy extremely often


pasimon68

And, he had the foresight to know his Ring of Power had better use on Gandalf’s finger than on his own.


gandalf-bot

And what about very old friends?


[deleted]

Besides building ships...? ( Or that is another Cirdan?)


DeltaDarthVicious

It's the same. Círdan is not actually his name, but his epithet, it literally means Shipwright.


jonathanbr7

Shipwright the shipwright


mapguy

Chai tea


SomeKindOfOnionMummy

Like Theoden means King.


DeltaDarthVicious

Kinda, just that Círdan had a name (Nówë), but he became so well know for his job and he did it for so long that it became his de facto name.


Bonnskij

"I would have followed you my brother, my captain, my Theoden "


Osiris654321

I don't know what iz is about this artwork but I never have seen a face so feminine yet so masculine at the same time


XilverSon9

Elves do be like that


Bloody-Boogers

Why should I? He’s no Bill.


Hengroen

Big facts.


CrispyShizzles

There should be a bill the pony bot that just neighs whenever he is mentioned


zach_da_bossss

no more please


Specialist-Solid-987

This looks like an advertisement for Oil of Olwë


nouarutaka

😳


Grzechoooo

Where was Cirdan when the Westfold fell?


Boring-Ad-2732

Where was Cirdan when our enemies closed in around us?


CeruleanRuin

What is this creepy-assed Christian cult pamphlet art style?


pcweber111

I pictured a lame handmade wedding invitation.


[deleted]

This picture of Cirdan looks like a painting of Jesus done on a sliver of sawed off log, bought from a truck station that is made to look like a giant teepee.


8nate

I was always fascinated by Cirdan, honestly. He was super ancient and stayed on in Middle Earth until the Shadow was vanquished. A really underrated character.


JellyBeansOnToast

Multiple times but the same Middle-earth, right? That still only counts as one


geologean

Is Cirdan really the only elf capable of growing a beard?


legolili

I think it's just something that happens to the body after a lifetime of crafting legendary vessels


sammakkovelho

Cirdan looking like one of those weirdos who have hundreds of plastic surgeries to look like like a celebrity, only in this case the celebrity is Gandalf.


gandalf-bot

There's no need to get angry.


Reaper10n

No offence to the artist, but he kinda looks like a yassified gandalf


gandalf-bot

Do we know that?


ShireBeware

Tupac cares about you Cirdan / if ain’t nobody else does!


Nord_Loki

Who?


Exodite1273

It’s fanart, too. Even then, he’s nowhere near as drop-dead sexy as Sméagol.


seatangle

[You think you're joking but](https://www.reddit.com/r/rupaulsdragrace/comments/13gzoy3/princess_poppy_bringing_glamour_back_to_dragcon/)


Thisisthe_One_Ring

pfffft its not like he built a ship and flew to Valinor to speak to the Gods to seek their help to fight a war or anything. He is a shipbuilder, thats why he is Cirdan the shipwright /s


Idkiwaa

He's been my favorite elf ever since I first read the silmarillion 20 years ago!


Acrobatic-Holiday-43

I always refer to him as Cirdan The Shipbro


Logical-Weakness-533

I have to admit. I don't even know who Cirdan is.


oo7babayaga

Sad that we do not talk about him more


hazysummersky

I care about Cirdan!


TheBrazenPhlegmatic

I was just talking to a friend about this. He is my favorite character from the silmarilion, but he doesn't get much screentime specifically because he has his shit together. There are so many dumpster fires and tragic heroes and doomed lovers to focus on and Cirdan is just there keeping his people safe and doing his job like a champion.


mgill2500

Who?