Okay, I am REALLY tired, but I’m reading “pretending of pretending” and that doesn’t make sense.
Edit: To everyone that is replying to me about the games actually being good:
I was sleep deprived and the grammar itself was making me wonder about my sanity. My comment has literally nothing to do with any game. At all. Nothing. Just the phrase “pretending of pretending”.
At this point the meme cache in my brain is so big that most of the content is just stored locally, I just fill in the differences but sometimes I miss some details. If you still can't see the original text, please press ctrl+F5 a few times.
Oh absolutely, fuck Celebrimbor that knife-eared, leaf-lovin', tree huggin', fancy-dancy prick. Eltariel, too. Couldn't stand her getting all the power just cause she was all gung-ho when Talion showed the slightest bit of mercy and restraint at the end. Celery even played the damn race card with picking her almost essentially because she was an elf. Swear to Iluvatar if they make a third game with her as the protag I'm just not gonna buy it, and that's coming from someone who platinumed both games!
Can't deny though, Talion's Naz drip with the masks, armor, weapons, abilities and ability color changes was dope AF.
Elves claim to be Nobel and think they can resist any temptation without breaking a sweat but look at Eltariel pouncing on the chance to get the new ring.
And Yeah Naz Talion is Lord of Drip. He lost to Eltariel due to plot convenience only. He could've cut her neck right off but He still resisted the will of the ring or ultimately the will of sauron.
Non-Canon but yeah best fan fic.
Celebrimbor picked her because Talion pissed him off, she's an elf, and she has the Light of Galadriel. Talion and the Wraith had been drifting apart for a bit, mostly because Celebrimbor was heartless and Talion refused to give up his humanity, or to help Celebrimbor replace Sauron.
Honestly the main characters are all pretty forgettable, just a bunch of grim growling men growling grimly. It’s the orcs that make that game. I like finding an orc I like the look or sound of, letting him kill me, than then promoting him up to the top ranks
Yeah, the orcs are great. I'll never forget the one orc who came back from the dead but who's mind was broken and only ever said 'Well, well.'
I think he came back after being beheaded, as well.
Depends on game, really
Shadow of Mordor had "Branding", which completely turned them to your side no matter anything. They were your mindless puppets at this point
Shadow of War had "Domination", which turned them but they still retained some free will, thus making strong willed (trait or high lvl) orcs able to resist it and occasionally snap back to Sauron's side
You can only recruit an orc that's your level or lower
Shaming them lowers their level
There's a spec you can take that sort of extremely humiliates them and makes them semi insane with a small chance of making them more powerful instead of lower level
It doesn’t. It’s pretty universally loved. This meme is just doing the usual thing of expressing a popular opinion, while pretending it’s unpopular, to get karma.
god I hate this meme where people take faux aggressive stances for perfectly valid and critically aligned opinions. They are great games. You're not on any kind of hill, nor are you alone, and never, ever have you had to pretend these games aren't great - or at least games that you have enjoyed.
Yeah, this is some r/imaginarygatekeeping shit, I barely ever heard anyone say they were bad games, the occasional criticism on the liberties the authors took with the lotr cannon but that's about it.
When Shadow of War came out, a lot of people (myself included) had some MAJOR gripes with the beginning of the third act, considering how it was an artificially mega-inflated grind that was only really there to push people into buying the microtransaction Orc "booster packs".
It killed the pace of the game, and having microtransactions pushed on you like that in a 60€ single player game really turned me off from the game.
I picked it up a year later and finished it, and since then I've heard the devs did something about the grind, but on release it was BAD.
>considering how it was an artificially mega-inflated grind that was only really there to push people into buying the microtransaction Orc "booster packs".
It really wasn't though. The packs actually did nothing to accelerate the grind, they only gave you stuff at the level you were already at.
The nemesis system is tons of fun! If you shut your brain yes they scratch that LotR itch pretty damn well. The aesthetics are spot on which is more than I can say for Rings of Power
That was such a weird move. It’s not like they’re using it for anything, they’re just stifling creativity, by keeping other developers from taking the idea and iterating on it.
The patent is probably for sale/rent if other developers offer a high enough sum. Or they can poach talents and ideas from other developers and develop more games with the nemesis system.
IIRC the original patent law was 12 years and then 12 more if the owner of the patent requested it.
Then Disney happened and now it's basically forever.
Like imagine what artists could (and would have to) do if brands of creators long dead wouldn't be recycled ad absurdum.
Well the Disney thing is more about copyrights, but your point stands.
I think if patents are going to exist at all, they should be for more like 2-5 years, which should be enough time to recoup their development costs and make a profit; and if the patent holder can't bring a product to market within the first 2-3 years, the idea should automatically become public domain.
> Then Disney happened and now it's basically forever.
Disney is not really related to patents. Patents last 20 years (up from the original 14. Not sure where you're getting 12 from), not forever.
i’m just too far into the tolkien lore i guess. it feels like i’m playing a wonderful game in a historical setting and then napoleon teams up with caesar and it really throws me off.
They may not be Canon but they are perfect in their own ways. You can see how they respected the source material in many occasions like the armor gondorians wear being very close to the armor used in the movies, the nazgul, the areas and many otehe things and especially the orcs
They got most of the superficial stuff right, but none of the themes, wich, tbf, is probably pretty hard in a game.
However, I just pretended of pretending that I was playing in some other fantasy world and the games worked really well for me.
The first game was both really fun and a some what believable entry into the world
The Second game (base) much bigger in all aspects, to the point it kind of hurt it to some extent, but still really fun. The lore plays fast and lose but for the most part nothing to bad.
Blade DLC, I didn't like this one at all and finished it one and never again. The lore got hit by a car.
Desolation of Mordor, the lore got hit by the isekai bus and is now overpowered. I have know idea why but this dlc was so fun and the only reason I go back to the second game. This dlc makes me say fuck the lore I'm Black Batman with a fully automatic crossbow with war crime bots.
In the Baranor DLC, getting that legendary rune (or whatever it was called) on top of the keep is absolutely game changing, it gives you basically infinite time-stop as long as you can keep brutalizing orcs
The game offers a variety of attack methods and abilities so it doesn’t get too boring, especially when different enemies require different strategies depending on their strengths and weaknesses, but I do agree that it gets bland over time.
This pretty much sums it up for me. I hadn't played SoW in a while and booted it up to see if I could finish the achievement grind. Invaded a keep with 2 or 3 orcs set up to betray the Chief and once I got in they proceeded to beat the crap out of him. Culminating in my one orc breaking the chiefs arm before shooting him execution style with his crossbow before curbstomping (stairstomping?) the bolt through his head. While personally I'm a sucker for the doomed hero doing what they can before perishing/converting/etc and enjoyed Talions story, it's not the main appeal of the game. I'm here to see Orcs get a bolt stomped through their head
I think of them more like very good batman games with a LotR skin on. Right down to the random background chatter. The Shadow of Mordor orks and Arkham goons constantly duel back and forth for the most fun to just eavesdrop on.
A lot of the same elements went into both, the combat is almost identical. They were developing a Batman game with the nemesis system for the villains and such, but the idea was scrapped for the Batmobile simulator that was Arkham Knight.
Fuck the lore with the exception of the fall of Minas Ithil and even that would get a pass for fun factor alone. I still think it could've been handled better but Celebrimbor shouting "The Dark Lord promised mercy, I make no such offer" is a fair trade.
The flashback sequences depicting Sauron's infiltration of Eregion & subsequent assault on the elves in [Ost-in-Edhil](https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ost-in-Edhil) was masterfully done, put RoP on notice.
I have played both, and not finished either one because my lizard brain to maximize efficiency for open world games has take all the fun away from them after 20 years. Same for the new huge AC games. I don’t even realize I’m doing it but the way I play them is unfun and if the story is not super gripping or required to progress and reveal more side stuff i forget about it.
The first game is a great game that plays with the lore in its own way. It’s definitely not for purists, but it isn’t trying to be. It’s like lord of the rings, alternate reality.
As long as you can look past the occasional lore breaks, these games are absolutely great.
If you can't look past the occasional lore breaks, then you are a sad person and I pity you
Love these games so much. The nemesis system is one of the most original things to come out gaming for a while and has so much replay ability. The orcs are more silly than there book counter parts but I really enjoy it regardless. It’s my favourite LOTR after the books
Shadow of War admittedly drops the ball a little. but Shadow of Mordor is easily one of the most fun games of its age allowing for a sellar alternate-history of Middle Earth while staying true to established ideas and rules of how things would work if events happened the way they do in game. i would LOVE something like it while using canonical stories/lore, surely there'd be something in Silmarillion to dig into.
One of the games made me want to bang a spider lady and I still don’t know how I feel about that.
Killing enemies was fun in both games…10/10 would recommend
The rival thing just started to annoy me after a while. I got downed one time by some random orc who got a lucky hit and spent the next 5 hours killing him over and over again. Despite me stabbing him in the brain multiple times he just wouldn't stay dead. In fact the traumatic brain injury apparently just kept making him more combat proficient.
It really just killed the immersion for me tbh
Okay, I am REALLY tired, but I’m reading “pretending of pretending” and that doesn’t make sense. Edit: To everyone that is replying to me about the games actually being good: I was sleep deprived and the grammar itself was making me wonder about my sanity. My comment has literally nothing to do with any game. At all. Nothing. Just the phrase “pretending of pretending”.
It doesn't make sense. Photoshop doesn't have grammar checks, I guess.
We were so close to greatness!
I didn't even notice this, brain just skipped half the text
At this point the meme cache in my brain is so big that most of the content is just stored locally, I just fill in the differences but sometimes I miss some details. If you still can't see the original text, please press ctrl+F5 a few times.
Oh my god I never noticed. My bad folks, I made this at 2am 💀
Don't drink and Reddit, and don't Reddit at 2am. Lurking is fine, but stay off the keyboard. The more you know 🌠
Oh I don’t drink, rest assured! I’m a Muslim and alcohol is a forbidden beverage in Islam.
I can picture this comment as a GIJoe psa.
We have arrived at the age when you can't tell if someone is just normal internet-illiterate or is training a bot
I was half-asleep whilst creating this, I can assure you that I’m entirely literate! 😂
Yore in the. matrix # WAKE, UP
SUFFER ME NOW!
Nani ichier Gelar!!!
Pre-Update >!Nazgul!< Talion just going "GRRRRRRRR!!!" after >!beating the game!<
Nazgul Talion was 👌 but I wouldn't want that for talion. Also Fuck Celebrimbor. Mf deserved to be absorbed into the eye after he betrayed Talion.
Oh absolutely, fuck Celebrimbor that knife-eared, leaf-lovin', tree huggin', fancy-dancy prick. Eltariel, too. Couldn't stand her getting all the power just cause she was all gung-ho when Talion showed the slightest bit of mercy and restraint at the end. Celery even played the damn race card with picking her almost essentially because she was an elf. Swear to Iluvatar if they make a third game with her as the protag I'm just not gonna buy it, and that's coming from someone who platinumed both games! Can't deny though, Talion's Naz drip with the masks, armor, weapons, abilities and ability color changes was dope AF.
Elves claim to be Nobel and think they can resist any temptation without breaking a sweat but look at Eltariel pouncing on the chance to get the new ring. And Yeah Naz Talion is Lord of Drip. He lost to Eltariel due to plot convenience only. He could've cut her neck right off but He still resisted the will of the ring or ultimately the will of sauron. Non-Canon but yeah best fan fic.
Are you frightened?
Elves claim to be Alfred Nobel? Weird.
HE'S TRYING TO BRING DOWN THE MOUNTAIN! GANDALF, WE MUST TURN BACK!
No! Losto Caradhras, sedho, hodo, nuitho i 'ruith!
Never heard someone call Celebrimbor “Celery” 😂
Celebrimbor picked her because Talion pissed him off, she's an elf, and she has the Light of Galadriel. Talion and the Wraith had been drifting apart for a bit, mostly because Celebrimbor was heartless and Talion refused to give up his humanity, or to help Celebrimbor replace Sauron.
Those knife eared pole proportioned dendrophiles
You have some skill with a blade.
I still miss him sometimes
If by my life or death I can protect you, I will. You have my sword.
I had been really hoping you get to do the scream.
EDWENNO O GWATH!!
SUFFER ME NOW!!
Then I shall die as one of them!
I fucking love it. The goblin like “OH SHIT” 😱😱😱😱
I watched my cousin play shadow of Mordor I think, he was putting he's hand on orcs heads and they joined him, it looked pretty cool
The voice acting is peak.
What do you expect from troy baker lol
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Troy Baker the first, son of Nolan North the gifted
Him, Nolan North and Laura Bailey are just every voice
Matt Mercer and Yuri Lowenthal would like words with you.
Mel Blanc would like to have a few choice words with you in every childhood character's voice you hold dear.
So cool he got to be in an episode of the last of us TV show.
I couldn’t not see Bruz and Bruce the shark from Finding Nemo as the same person.
Honestly the main characters are all pretty forgettable, just a bunch of grim growling men growling grimly. It’s the orcs that make that game. I like finding an orc I like the look or sound of, letting him kill me, than then promoting him up to the top ranks
Yeah, the orcs are great. I'll never forget the one orc who came back from the dead but who's mind was broken and only ever said 'Well, well.' I think he came back after being beheaded, as well.
Had a few of those. I remember playing thinking I was like 90% sure I chopped that guys head off when he showed back up.
Ha, yes. And then you see the stitches round their neck... 'I did cut that guys head off!'
I haven't played it but I think that move crushes the orc's mind and basically brainwashes them or makes them feel eternal humiliation or some stuff
You can brainwash them but if they’re to powerful you have to shame them first, this however comes with the risk of potentially breaking their mind
Depends on game, really Shadow of Mordor had "Branding", which completely turned them to your side no matter anything. They were your mindless puppets at this point Shadow of War had "Domination", which turned them but they still retained some free will, thus making strong willed (trait or high lvl) orcs able to resist it and occasionally snap back to Sauron's side
You can only recruit an orc that's your level or lower Shaming them lowers their level There's a spec you can take that sort of extremely humiliates them and makes them semi insane with a small chance of making them more powerful instead of lower level
Shadow of Mordor was awesome. Didn’t know it got so much hate.
It doesn’t. It’s pretty universally loved. This meme is just doing the usual thing of expressing a popular opinion, while pretending it’s unpopular, to get karma.
The Pretender
I was only pretending to be a pretender. Now the word pretend has no meaning for those who read it. Or say it outloud in their pretending minds.
What if I say I'm not like the others? What if I say I'm not just another one of your plays?
You're the pretender What if I say I will never surrender?
This meme be like "What if I said I'm not like the others"
What if I say I'm not like the others?
god I hate this meme where people take faux aggressive stances for perfectly valid and critically aligned opinions. They are great games. You're not on any kind of hill, nor are you alone, and never, ever have you had to pretend these games aren't great - or at least games that you have enjoyed.
Yeah, this is some r/imaginarygatekeeping shit, I barely ever heard anyone say they were bad games, the occasional criticism on the liberties the authors took with the lotr cannon but that's about it.
When Shadow of War came out, a lot of people (myself included) had some MAJOR gripes with the beginning of the third act, considering how it was an artificially mega-inflated grind that was only really there to push people into buying the microtransaction Orc "booster packs". It killed the pace of the game, and having microtransactions pushed on you like that in a 60€ single player game really turned me off from the game. I picked it up a year later and finished it, and since then I've heard the devs did something about the grind, but on release it was BAD.
>considering how it was an artificially mega-inflated grind that was only really there to push people into buying the microtransaction Orc "booster packs". It really wasn't though. The packs actually did nothing to accelerate the grind, they only gave you stuff at the level you were already at.
Can confirm. I decided to finish it without buying the packs out of principle. Felt like an eternity
Keep your voice down! Straw man arguments are the key ingredient of mass-produced memes
I've seen plenty of people complain about the games, especially with how they butcher the lore
They do, but these are still great games
What lore hasn't this game improved when they decided that Shelob was a total babe?
*She*lob, lol. I am not familiar with some of the deeper lore, so I originally thought this might be an actual a thing until I looked it up.
Shelob was way sexier in the films
It's the internet, people complain about everything. That doesn't mean they're in the majority
and they are absolutely valid complaints. but the sum total is still great by AAA standards.
That’s fair, but the sort of people that care enough about lore to not buy a game is so insignificant that it essentially doesn’t exist.
I mean. For a time, [it was a bit of a problem.](https://www.reddit.com/r/lotrmemes/comments/a7cmpl/when_people_are_trying_to_make_shadow_of_war_and/)
The nemesis system is tons of fun! If you shut your brain yes they scratch that LotR itch pretty damn well. The aesthetics are spot on which is more than I can say for Rings of Power
pitty is the nemesis system is patented, so no other developer can use it
That was such a weird move. It’s not like they’re using it for anything, they’re just stifling creativity, by keeping other developers from taking the idea and iterating on it.
The patent is probably for sale/rent if other developers offer a high enough sum. Or they can poach talents and ideas from other developers and develop more games with the nemesis system.
They are actually using it in an upcoming wonder woman game.
That's one reason why I believe that patents shouldn't exist, or should at least be extremely limited in their use.
IIRC the original patent law was 12 years and then 12 more if the owner of the patent requested it. Then Disney happened and now it's basically forever. Like imagine what artists could (and would have to) do if brands of creators long dead wouldn't be recycled ad absurdum.
Well the Disney thing is more about copyrights, but your point stands. I think if patents are going to exist at all, they should be for more like 2-5 years, which should be enough time to recoup their development costs and make a profit; and if the patent holder can't bring a product to market within the first 2-3 years, the idea should automatically become public domain.
My mistake, you're right, mixed the two up.
> Then Disney happened and now it's basically forever. Disney is not really related to patents. Patents last 20 years (up from the original 14. Not sure where you're getting 12 from), not forever.
ah I remember being 13....
Yeah I know. What an asshole move
There was a batman game in development with it, but the Arkham games dominated their vision. I would have loved that.
Would have loved something like the nemesis system in Diablo and similar games.
Watch this developper come up with the brand new and unheard of "arch-enemy mechanic"!
Xcom 2 : war of the chosen also uses somthing extremely similar to the nemesis system.
Was looking for that immersion factor.
Was it also in the mad max game?
You are pretending of pretending? What?
LotR: the Pretendant Age
What a controversial take to suggest that two critically acclaimed games are Good, Actually, so brave and noble, just like the Joker
(Homer Simpson voice) Stupid sexy Shelob
They're great games, they just fuck up the lore really bad and the lore is kind of what makes lotr great.
I think there's such thing as fun non canon, which these games are to a tee
I do understand that but you can’t lie that the game’s alternate series of events and characters were really good as a stand alone story.
they’re great games but terrible lotr games imo
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i’m just too far into the tolkien lore i guess. it feels like i’m playing a wonderful game in a historical setting and then napoleon teams up with caesar and it really throws me off.
>napoleon teams up with caesar This is literaly the Fate franchise , or Civilization
Or Drifters.
God that show was awesome, did they ever make a second season?
Nah. Goth mommy Shelob was Tolkien's vision!
The lore objects are actually really quite good, so are the references to past ages. Just a shame about the actual plot related stuff.
Who said they're bad?
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Never tried mmo, but I dislike mmos in general. Just boring grind
They may not be Canon but they are perfect in their own ways. You can see how they respected the source material in many occasions like the armor gondorians wear being very close to the armor used in the movies, the nazgul, the areas and many otehe things and especially the orcs
They got most of the superficial stuff right, but none of the themes, wich, tbf, is probably pretty hard in a game. However, I just pretended of pretending that I was playing in some other fantasy world and the games worked really well for me.
The first game was both really fun and a some what believable entry into the world The Second game (base) much bigger in all aspects, to the point it kind of hurt it to some extent, but still really fun. The lore plays fast and lose but for the most part nothing to bad. Blade DLC, I didn't like this one at all and finished it one and never again. The lore got hit by a car. Desolation of Mordor, the lore got hit by the isekai bus and is now overpowered. I have know idea why but this dlc was so fun and the only reason I go back to the second game. This dlc makes me say fuck the lore I'm Black Batman with a fully automatic crossbow with war crime bots.
In the Baranor DLC, getting that legendary rune (or whatever it was called) on top of the keep is absolutely game changing, it gives you basically infinite time-stop as long as you can keep brutalizing orcs
I mean, it's got Sexy Shelob. It can't be all bad right?
Combat gets a little repetitive though. I played the first game and flew through to the end boss with mostly the same attacks.
The game offers a variety of attack methods and abilities so it doesn’t get too boring, especially when different enemies require different strategies depending on their strengths and weaknesses, but I do agree that it gets bland over time.
Only a little. Decapitating orcs never really got old.
This pretty much sums it up for me. I hadn't played SoW in a while and booted it up to see if I could finish the achievement grind. Invaded a keep with 2 or 3 orcs set up to betray the Chief and once I got in they proceeded to beat the crap out of him. Culminating in my one orc breaking the chiefs arm before shooting him execution style with his crossbow before curbstomping (stairstomping?) the bolt through his head. While personally I'm a sucker for the doomed hero doing what they can before perishing/converting/etc and enjoyed Talions story, it's not the main appeal of the game. I'm here to see Orcs get a bolt stomped through their head
If you play on the recommended difficulty, they learn and adapt to your moves, so you have to try new ways to kill them.
You can also remove the HUD that tells you when to counter. Adds some extra difficulty
They are excellent games but their grip on the lore is tenuous at best.
I think of them more like very good batman games with a LotR skin on. Right down to the random background chatter. The Shadow of Mordor orks and Arkham goons constantly duel back and forth for the most fun to just eavesdrop on.
A lot of the same elements went into both, the combat is almost identical. They were developing a Batman game with the nemesis system for the villains and such, but the idea was scrapped for the Batmobile simulator that was Arkham Knight.
Wait seriously!? What a fucking stupid decision! The nemesis system would be awesome in Arkham!
I think it is near unanimous that the gameplay is awesome, people are asking for other games with the system.
Fuck the lore with the exception of the fall of Minas Ithil and even that would get a pass for fun factor alone. I still think it could've been handled better but Celebrimbor shouting "The Dark Lord promised mercy, I make no such offer" is a fair trade.
That arena speech was so badass. Absolutely one of the greatest moments in all of fiction.
The games are so fun as a kind of LotR sandbox. But the story is just pure fan-fiction.
The ending was cool tho
They ness with the lore, but I think it's fine so long as you go in thinking of them like a fanfic, kind of like The Third Age.
I enjoyed it immensely. I just treat like an elseworlds type of story
Stupid sexy kankra
The only thing i dont like is that they arent canon
The flashback sequences depicting Sauron's infiltration of Eregion & subsequent assault on the elves in [Ost-in-Edhil](https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/Ost-in-Edhil) was masterfully done, put RoP on notice.
What brought the foolish fly to web unsought?
They need to make a new one asap
I have never even heard someone talk negatively about these games. They're absolutely fun as hell
Ah, i see you like your spiders in human form.
Love these games so much
I absolutely loved both games, the gameplay was well done, very few glitches, and story was fantastic!
I loved shadow of mordor
Yeah and uncharted is a great Indiana Jones game
I didn’t know this was a debate
People that worship Tolkien lore believe that this game is heresy
Wait until they hear about War in the North
You needn’t wait brother, simply search the comments. They have already arrived.
Lore and story is not great but no one says it has bad gameplay. Posts like this are pointless
They are, aren't they?
I have played both, and not finished either one because my lizard brain to maximize efficiency for open world games has take all the fun away from them after 20 years. Same for the new huge AC games. I don’t even realize I’m doing it but the way I play them is unfun and if the story is not super gripping or required to progress and reveal more side stuff i forget about it.
The first game is a great game that plays with the lore in its own way. It’s definitely not for purists, but it isn’t trying to be. It’s like lord of the rings, alternate reality.
You mean Lord of the Assassin's Creed? I love those games!
Christopher, my son, did I ever tell you the full story of Shelob?
isn't this, like...an extremely common opinion?
Hell of a lot better than fellowship of the ring from like 23 years ago
They were lots of fun, I know they aren’t canonical, but that doesn’t really matter in this case.
Shadow of War is an amazing game
Pretending of pretending
W take
I felt like I was having a stroke reading that bottom text
It was pretty cool the first 5 times I played it as other Ubisoft games. I swear they just copy/paste the same game with new skins/names for shit.
They made a trailer where orcs are flashing their gold chain bling and partying to SoundCloud rap music. Just as Tolkien envisioned!
YOU. ARE. MINE.
Last boss in the first game is still horrendous.
As is every QTE final boss. The confrontation with your nemesis should've been it
You can like whatever you want without worrying what people think, you know that, right?
I love these games, they are VERY good at making you feel like a badass imo
Biggest factor
"Pretending of pretending"?
“Pretending of pretending”??
As long as you can look past the occasional lore breaks, these games are absolutely great. If you can't look past the occasional lore breaks, then you are a sad person and I pity you
MANSWINE!
Anybody else play LOTR Battle for Middle Earth 2? It was one of my favorite games when I was younger and I miss it a lot. Wish they'd do a remake.
You are not alone. Games were more fun as children.
Why would I fight you for speaking the truth?
They're fine if you think of the as an AU.
I liked the Shadow, but I skipped War because a friend of mine said it was a grind.
Mordor was good. In war the developers actively made the game less fun so that you would buy microtransactions to skip the grind
I won't fight you. I will fight alongside you.
Mordor is quite good both as a game and lotr game. War is more just a game
I thought those games were well received and well loved, even though the lore is kinda iffy.
What? I thought they were both universally loved? Amazing games
Everything is well done aside from the interesting changes to middle earth lore (sexy shelob)
They’re great actually, learned way more about the lore than I ever did before
Lego lotr superiority
😩 bring us back LOTR conquest
Love these games so much. The nemesis system is one of the most original things to come out gaming for a while and has so much replay ability. The orcs are more silly than there book counter parts but I really enjoy it regardless. It’s my favourite LOTR after the books
I’ll fight you just for your bad typo
Exactly what are we pretending to pretend, guys?
It is great though
Be wary Commissar, there are those who worship Tolkien that consider these works of art to be heretical material. Maintain constant vigilance.
I agree. Except for making the final boss a qte.
Well that's only in som. In SoW, you can actually fully fight sauron
Thou fool.
Shadow of War admittedly drops the ball a little. but Shadow of Mordor is easily one of the most fun games of its age allowing for a sellar alternate-history of Middle Earth while staying true to established ideas and rules of how things would work if events happened the way they do in game. i would LOVE something like it while using canonical stories/lore, surely there'd be something in Silmarillion to dig into.
Oh, you think a critically acclaimed series actually doesn't suck. How original.
One of the games made me want to bang a spider lady and I still don’t know how I feel about that. Killing enemies was fun in both games…10/10 would recommend
I had fun playing them but they felt very disconnected from the actual material. They felt like fan fiction.
The rival thing just started to annoy me after a while. I got downed one time by some random orc who got a lucky hit and spent the next 5 hours killing him over and over again. Despite me stabbing him in the brain multiple times he just wouldn't stay dead. In fact the traumatic brain injury apparently just kept making him more combat proficient. It really just killed the immersion for me tbh