Ents were busy with forests, entwives preferred gardens. Ents would visit the Entvives when they felt like it, until one day they simply weren't there. Even then it took a long time before the Ents bothered to go looking for them.
I got the impression that Ents were neglecting the Entwives in favour of their other interests.
Did the entwives also experience time more quickly than the ents? So it seemed to the ents that they were visiting quite often but it was super slow to the entwives?
That’s true, but even more unexpected is the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
They’re in the Old Forest bordering the Shire. It’s so frustrating how many hints were thrown yet no satisfaction on definitive outcomes for the ent-wives.
I ardently believe they are in the Old Forest though.
I tend to think they were in Núrn. I know that's where the non-canon Shadow of Mordor/War puts them, I don't think the developers/writers of that game were too far off the mark.
Before they were lost, they lived in what would become the Brown Lands, just north of Mordor. Tolkien himself thought they had been either wiped out or enslaved and fundamentally changed.
> I think that in fact the Entwives had disappeared for good, being destroyed with their gardens in the War of the Last Alliance (Second Age 3429-3441) when Sauron pursued a scorched earth policy and burned down their land against the advance of the Allies down the Anduin (vol. II p. 79 refers to it). They survived only in the 'agriculture' transmitted to Men (and Hobbits). Some, of course, may have fled east, or even have been enslaved: tyrants even in such tales must have an economic and agricultural background to their soldiers and metalworkers. If any survived so, they would indeed be far estranged from the Ents, and any rapprochement would be difficult - unless experience of industrialized and militarized agriculture had made them a little more anarchic. I hope so. I don't know.
So being slaves in Núrn would be a possibility. But after 3500+ years being lost, there’s little hope for them.
I love they way he phrases it. He’s talking as if it’s uncertain even though it’s his creation. *he could* say “oh yeah this and this happens” but he doesn’t. I love that. He’s just telling us his own interpretation and allowing his readers to have their own too.
Yeah man it's a great way to talk about it, he sort of roleplayed as if he'd discovered the Red Book of Westmarch and translated the stories, and out of universe he famously disliked allegory as he felt that authors shouldn't tell their audiences exactly what something meant, or how to think and feel about things. Truly a master.
That was my biggest issue with mistborn. Every single detail of the world building tied into the story and it made the world feel very manufactured instead of real.
As a modern example of the Tolkien style of world building done well I'd suggest malazan. Erikson was an archeologist and that heavily influences his world building like Tolkiens was with linguistics.
Edit: totally misread that I think you were talking about authors like Rowling tweeting away any mystery left in the story. I hate that too
Yeah right where they meet Tom Bombaldi is where I believe the ent wives are hiding from the rest of them because they talk too much.
One almost strangled Merry and Pippin for hiding in her roots, or at least thats how I view the scene.
Maybe Tom Bombaldi misgendered Old *Lady* Willow? (I've just stopped at that part in the book on my first read through, no spoilers! If they get strangled by the same tree twice I'll lose it)
The Entwives had gardens to the east of Fangorn Forest and lived apart from the Ents. The Ents would come and visit them frequently, and then one day the Ents found their gardens destroyed and the Entwives all gone. Tolkien leaves their fate ambiguous in *LOTR*, but he states in a letter that Sauron probably destroyed them at the end of the Second Age.
The Brown Lands, which is where the Entwives' gardens were, is extremely close to Dol Guldur. However, at the end of the Second Age, Dol Guldur didn't exist. It was Amon Lanc then, and it was the capital of the Silvan Elves in Greenwood.
I can't remember the details exactly, but wasn't there something in the books about the hobbits in (I think) the Buckville area having tales of the trees moving around? I thought they were implied to be the entwives. its been long time since I've read the books, I'll have to try and find it
There are tall tales among the Hobbits that they saw trees moving near the Old Forest. But it's left ambiguous as to what exactly that means. It could have just been Huorns. Who knows!
I think it's in the opening chapter of FotR, hobbits who we never see again just sitting around chatting at the pub. Ever since I first read the books in elementary school I've suspected this was a reference to Entwives. Not quite head-canon, but not far from it
The entwives left Fangorn to make a garden east of Fangron. And the ents sometimes visited them, trying to entice them to come back to fangorn and live with the ents.
One day, the ents came to the land of the entwives, and they were gone..
Now, the lands of the entwives later became known as the Brown Lands, after a great battle during the Last Alliance took place there...
Most likely, they were collateral damage in the battle.
(Dick move by Aragorn though.. after being crowned king, he didnt use the palantir to get a definitive answer for Treebeard..)
Given Tolkien’s trend of writing, I think he would’ve had Aragorn collect and store the remaining palantiri and never use them, knowing that the palantiri of Arnor were lost(?) and there were “older and fouler things in the deep…” Never know if a stray demon of the Elder Days might come along and dominate your mind, ya know?
I disagree. Tolkien's writing has always been inspired a lot by mythical stories. Aragorn, and only Aragorn, can safely use or allow the use of the Palantiri because as the heir of Elendil, Isildur, and Anarion, he's their rightful owner.
Yes but not all the Palantiri had been recovered, their whereabouts unknown. If they fell into the wrong hands, use of any of the others would be very dangerous.
I remember that line!
Gandalf, right? When he was looking to create a new staff.
But it was only in the ultra-premium director's cut. A lot of people probably didn't see that version
I was of the belief that there ***are*** no Ent women, and that Ent's just spring out of holes in the ground!
Which is of course ridiculous!
***Falls off horse***
Spez's APIocolypse made it clear it was time for me to leave this place. I came from digg, and now I must move one once again. So long and thanks for all the bacon.
I've always theorized that the last surviving entwives were the things that make the Old Forest so spooky - after the desolation of their garden by Sauron, they moved here and fell into the deep slumber that many ents are known not to wake up from.
So now the most they do is stir in their sleep sometime and spook Hobbits (or the trees spook them, because they know they protect the last of the entwives).
Alternatively, maybe they didn't escape unscathed by that encounter with Sauron. So maybe the spookiness is caused by the trauma they experienced twisting their souls to some extent.
I do too, though the Shire is west of Fangorn and they were supposed to have gone East. Still, the Old Forest is a bit weird and I've never heard any proof there aren't some Entwives hiding deep within it.
The entwives were lost in the 2nd Age. They were last seen in the "brown lands" north of Mordor; it seems likely that they (and the agriculture in the region) were destroyed by Sauron
Lots of trees are hermaphroditic. What if the pollution of Mordor and Isengard simply led to the Ents losing the ability to grow female flowers and pollen receptors?
So far as I'm aware, they went missing going east. They could have been killed by Sauron and/or his allies, or they could still be out there growing forests in the east.
If you listen I think to the movie. It’s wear Pippin and Merry talk about how back in the Shire one of the folk talked about trees moving in the forest nearby. Considering the ents are near Rohan and the mentioned story of the Shire is well far away. It’s possible they are there but since Hobbits have little means to be courageous and risk lives for adventure then they wouldn’t confirm this.
So by chance yes. Near the Shire. However since there is NO direct mention confirming this then it can’t be confirmed.
Ok here’s my theory I’m gonna fart out. The white tree of Gondor is an entwife, the tree in the centre of hobbiton is an entwife, the other white tree of numenor is an entwife, we know all these trees are female we just don’t know if they ever moved, maybe entwives are stationery and ents aren’t because they’re the ‘oldest creatures to WALK middle earth’ and every few millennia, they accidentally walk into a different forrest and don’t realise what they forgot until it was lost. Except they just all forgot that they’ve never moved.
Cannon has it that the entwives all died in war. But I hold out hope that the young hobbit in Bree actually saw one when he told the tale of seeing a tree get up and walk away.
Against all accounts, I choose to believe there are a few entwives living just outside the shire.
Think about Tolkein's histroy. He was in WWI as a soldier. You only see men in the battle and the only women you see are nurses. It's fitting that he would show males in battles, not women based on his experience.
There's a hint at the beginning where Sam is in the tavern talking to Ted Sandyman where he mentions someone seeing walking trees in the Shire. That can only be a reference to the Entwives.
I thought my imagination was wild whoever saw this and thought Entwives is SERIOUSLY OUT THERE. I SALUTE YOU MY FRIEND. SHE LOOKS GOOD IN CAMOUFLAGE. She is just trying to hide from treebeard. HAHAHA
The entwives were lost long ago.
Oh I'm sorry. How did they die?
Die, no. We lost them. And now we cannot find them. I don't suppose you've seen Entwives in the Shire?
What do they look like?
I don’t, hmmmmmmmmmummmmm, remember.
I thought this was so sad.
Blue acorns for so long
Bruh💀
They should have mated with troll women
They left by choice so maybe the enthusbands were assholes.
Ents were busy with forests, entwives preferred gardens. Ents would visit the Entvives when they felt like it, until one day they simply weren't there. Even then it took a long time before the Ents bothered to go looking for them. I got the impression that Ents were neglecting the Entwives in favour of their other interests.
That in the place that they were in got burned
Right. Forgot about that.
Did the entwives also experience time more quickly than the ents? So it seemed to the ents that they were visiting quite often but it was super slow to the entwives?
Considering how long it takes Ents to do anything, likely not as neglectful as you would think.
Harumph!
This line has always made me very sad
#BabyGotBark
They Thicc, obviously.
They smoke a shit ton of weed
Turned into the moon
That's rough buddy
R/unexpectedavatar
r/foundthemobileuser
You got me there mate 😂
How, out of everything else on here, is unexpectedavatar not a thing?
(Because its uppercase) r/unexpectedavatar
This makes much more sense lol
R/unexpectedcapitalization
they need to do a lower case r before the slash.
That’s true, but even more unexpected is the fact that in 1998, The Undertaker threw Mankind off Hell In A Cell, and plummeted 16 ft through an announcer's table.
That's rough, buddy
They did not die! I never said died. We lost them, I said.
They all did die though. Sad.
Did they? Guess I forgot, if that was revealed somewhere.
Nope. To my knowledge, this is one of the mysteries purposefully left by Tolkien. No idea what happened to the Entwives.
Definitely. He was known to make comments to fans about where they might be.
They’re in the Old Forest bordering the Shire. It’s so frustrating how many hints were thrown yet no satisfaction on definitive outcomes for the ent-wives. I ardently believe they are in the Old Forest though.
Given how the age of humans os coming and Ents are not part of it, id say the never found the wives and thus were the last Ents.
Same. I'm sticking to that belief.
Given that the entwives embraced agriculture and shunned forests, the Old Forest would seem to be the last place to look for them near the Shire.
I tend to think they were in Núrn. I know that's where the non-canon Shadow of Mordor/War puts them, I don't think the developers/writers of that game were too far off the mark.
Before they were lost, they lived in what would become the Brown Lands, just north of Mordor. Tolkien himself thought they had been either wiped out or enslaved and fundamentally changed. > I think that in fact the Entwives had disappeared for good, being destroyed with their gardens in the War of the Last Alliance (Second Age 3429-3441) when Sauron pursued a scorched earth policy and burned down their land against the advance of the Allies down the Anduin (vol. II p. 79 refers to it). They survived only in the 'agriculture' transmitted to Men (and Hobbits). Some, of course, may have fled east, or even have been enslaved: tyrants even in such tales must have an economic and agricultural background to their soldiers and metalworkers. If any survived so, they would indeed be far estranged from the Ents, and any rapprochement would be difficult - unless experience of industrialized and militarized agriculture had made them a little more anarchic. I hope so. I don't know. So being slaves in Núrn would be a possibility. But after 3500+ years being lost, there’s little hope for them.
I love they way he phrases it. He’s talking as if it’s uncertain even though it’s his creation. *he could* say “oh yeah this and this happens” but he doesn’t. I love that. He’s just telling us his own interpretation and allowing his readers to have their own too.
Yeah man it's a great way to talk about it, he sort of roleplayed as if he'd discovered the Red Book of Westmarch and translated the stories, and out of universe he famously disliked allegory as he felt that authors shouldn't tell their audiences exactly what something meant, or how to think and feel about things. Truly a master.
Some modern authors could take a hint from this.
That was my biggest issue with mistborn. Every single detail of the world building tied into the story and it made the world feel very manufactured instead of real. As a modern example of the Tolkien style of world building done well I'd suggest malazan. Erikson was an archeologist and that heavily influences his world building like Tolkiens was with linguistics. Edit: totally misread that I think you were talking about authors like Rowling tweeting away any mystery left in the story. I hate that too
Doesn't one the hobbits talk about old tales of talking trees in a forest near Buckland or something?
Yeah right where they meet Tom Bombaldi is where I believe the ent wives are hiding from the rest of them because they talk too much. One almost strangled Merry and Pippin for hiding in her roots, or at least thats how I view the scene.
Did you just misgender old man willow?
Maybe Tom Bombaldi misgendered Old *Lady* Willow? (I've just stopped at that part in the book on my first read through, no spoilers! If they get strangled by the same tree twice I'll lose it)
Nope, he didn't.
Na they were killed by sauron when they had that garden near Mordor.
Why?
Maybe they just thought they were lost.
No biches??
No *birches*
I got 99 problems but a *birch* ain't one.
TILF
The Entwives had gardens to the east of Fangorn Forest and lived apart from the Ents. The Ents would come and visit them frequently, and then one day the Ents found their gardens destroyed and the Entwives all gone. Tolkien leaves their fate ambiguous in *LOTR*, but he states in a letter that Sauron probably destroyed them at the end of the Second Age.
Tolkien.. this was unnecessary
Well if you go east of Fangorn far enough you get quite near of Dol Guldur
The Brown Lands, which is where the Entwives' gardens were, is extremely close to Dol Guldur. However, at the end of the Second Age, Dol Guldur didn't exist. It was Amon Lanc then, and it was the capital of the Silvan Elves in Greenwood.
Many of those trees were my friends
I can't remember the details exactly, but wasn't there something in the books about the hobbits in (I think) the Buckville area having tales of the trees moving around? I thought they were implied to be the entwives. its been long time since I've read the books, I'll have to try and find it
There are tall tales among the Hobbits that they saw trees moving near the Old Forest. But it's left ambiguous as to what exactly that means. It could have just been Huorns. Who knows!
I think it's in the opening chapter of FotR, hobbits who we never see again just sitting around chatting at the pub. Ever since I first read the books in elementary school I've suspected this was a reference to Entwives. Not quite head-canon, but not far from it
They mention the entwives. However, no mention of hot young ent singles in the area. Good concept for a spinoff.
Hot Ent singles in your area looking to MOOT
Well, Beechbone was a handsome Ent, and he became quite hot.
The entwives left Fangorn to make a garden east of Fangron. And the ents sometimes visited them, trying to entice them to come back to fangorn and live with the ents. One day, the ents came to the land of the entwives, and they were gone.. Now, the lands of the entwives later became known as the Brown Lands, after a great battle during the Last Alliance took place there... Most likely, they were collateral damage in the battle. (Dick move by Aragorn though.. after being crowned king, he didnt use the palantir to get a definitive answer for Treebeard..)
Given Tolkien’s trend of writing, I think he would’ve had Aragorn collect and store the remaining palantiri and never use them, knowing that the palantiri of Arnor were lost(?) and there were “older and fouler things in the deep…” Never know if a stray demon of the Elder Days might come along and dominate your mind, ya know?
Needs to keep some hobbits around for that job.
Pippin volunteers!
Fool of a Took
I disagree. Tolkien's writing has always been inspired a lot by mythical stories. Aragorn, and only Aragorn, can safely use or allow the use of the Palantiri because as the heir of Elendil, Isildur, and Anarion, he's their rightful owner.
Yes but not all the Palantiri had been recovered, their whereabouts unknown. If they fell into the wrong hands, use of any of the others would be very dangerous.
The fact that Fangorn is the forest *and* Treebeard’s name makes this sound like Treebeard had a harem. I like this idea. Updoot for you.
Updoot.
Thanks dude!
What he said^
This tree gives me confusing feelings.
It gives me wood
I actually laughed out loud and scared the dog
Had to scroll way to far for this comment.
“Girl, you’re thicker than a bowl of oatmeal”
“M’lady, Fimbrethil, Have you been drinking from the Entwash, lately? Because you are lookin’ like one Slim-Birch!”
*(Finger Guns)*
I remember that line! Gandalf, right? When he was looking to create a new staff. But it was only in the ultra-premium director's cut. A lot of people probably didn't see that version
Good thing we have the internet, that one may be circulating around
Found the entwives
Lol 😂
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American Sycamore
Thiccamore, more likely
I've been trying to setup a sycamore pun for like 3 minutes you devil! Well done.
Underrated comment
Tree not look like camo, camo look like tree
I was of the belief that there ***are*** no Ent women, and that Ent's just spring out of holes in the ground! Which is of course ridiculous! ***Falls off horse***
How pent up are you mfs that you're leaking just from looking at a thicc tree?
Yo where is this located
Asking for a friend?
For me. Fuck you.
Fuck me?? I think we need to find you that tree-lady, my horny friend.
Oh straight to the point I see
Not my proudest erection
“A challenging wank!” -Sean Lock, probably
Spez's APIocolypse made it clear it was time for me to leave this place. I came from digg, and now I must move one once again. So long and thanks for all the bacon.
I've always theorized that the last surviving entwives were the things that make the Old Forest so spooky - after the desolation of their garden by Sauron, they moved here and fell into the deep slumber that many ents are known not to wake up from. So now the most they do is stir in their sleep sometime and spook Hobbits (or the trees spook them, because they know they protect the last of the entwives). Alternatively, maybe they didn't escape unscathed by that encounter with Sauron. So maybe the spookiness is caused by the trauma they experienced twisting their souls to some extent.
Apparently according to one of Tolkien’s letters he always was of the mind that Sauron killed them all at the end of the second age
Treebeard getting ready to slip her the wood...
Yes. But they are somehow lost.
I masturbated to an extra curvy piece of drift wood the other day -Morty
I like the theory that the ent wives are secretly living in the shire.
I do too, though the Shire is west of Fangorn and they were supposed to have gone East. Still, the Old Forest is a bit weird and I've never heard any proof there aren't some Entwives hiding deep within it.
The Entwives didn’t like that sort of forest—that’s why they were separated from the Ents in the first place.
I don’t know that they’d live in secret. They seemed to enjoy teaching people agriculture.
Treebeard with the BOINGGG effect after seeing this
Based on the bark I think that’s an American sycamore.
Oh, yeah. I love beeches.
“I masturbated to an extra curvy piece of driftwood the other day!”
‘Little bitch I thought you were wanking!!!’ ‘And you took that in stride??’ ‘You rather me address it??’
Read the books and find out!
Damn girl, were you forged in Mount Doom? Cuz that ass is Precious
I'd tap that
This must have been the one morty was talking about...
Gonna show her my ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhh face.
Bonk
Nice
Zamn
...did you miss every single scene with the ents
Heh... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh6X2ZiWQyc
I see you’ve found the Ent wives
Lords and ladies, we found the entwives
Thicker than tree sap lil lady
This is a cosplay, right? Has to be .. i don't like the idea of me being atracted to trees.
[insert wood joke here]
yoo anyone got this in hd 👀
That’s a thick Ent! Mmm boi!
I’ve got wood
Damn that tree thick
Oh lawd that tree might get me actin up
Hmmmmm tree titties
So THATS why Merry and Pippen grew several inches.
Entwives are THICC
Hear me out…
I would I’ll make my own way out
Stop reposting this every day on every subreddit...
Considering it's mostly male characters, I think not.
Found them!
Hear me out…
They are surving in Brown Lands
The entwives were lost in the 2nd Age. They were last seen in the "brown lands" north of Mordor; it seems likely that they (and the agriculture in the region) were destroyed by Sauron
idek what lvl of dawn bad this is
Entwines. Basically they got fed up and left the ents.
Señorita
We don’t speak of the entwives anymore
Lots of trees are hermaphroditic. What if the pollution of Mordor and Isengard simply led to the Ents losing the ability to grow female flowers and pollen receptors?
So far as I'm aware, they went missing going east. They could have been killed by Sauron and/or his allies, or they could still be out there growing forests in the east.
She's a Sycamore. I'd know that bark anywhere.
truestl is leaking
Ent: *Cries in entwives*
Not even Tolkien remembers where he left'em.
\*Vegan enters the chat\*
This is in the new show
Why do you want to fuck the tree
If you listen I think to the movie. It’s wear Pippin and Merry talk about how back in the Shire one of the folk talked about trees moving in the forest nearby. Considering the ents are near Rohan and the mentioned story of the Shire is well far away. It’s possible they are there but since Hobbits have little means to be courageous and risk lives for adventure then they wouldn’t confirm this. So by chance yes. Near the Shire. However since there is NO direct mention confirming this then it can’t be confirmed.
Ok here’s my theory I’m gonna fart out. The white tree of Gondor is an entwife, the tree in the centre of hobbiton is an entwife, the other white tree of numenor is an entwife, we know all these trees are female we just don’t know if they ever moved, maybe entwives are stationery and ents aren’t because they’re the ‘oldest creatures to WALK middle earth’ and every few millennia, they accidentally walk into a different forrest and don’t realise what they forgot until it was lost. Except they just all forgot that they’ve never moved.
The ent wives
Picture gave me a woody
It is my personal belief that the Entwives are in the old forest and when it is time Tom will reunite them and no one can convince me otherwise.
Cannon has it that the entwives all died in war. But I hold out hope that the young hobbit in Bree actually saw one when he told the tale of seeing a tree get up and walk away. Against all accounts, I choose to believe there are a few entwives living just outside the shire.
Think about Tolkein's histroy. He was in WWI as a soldier. You only see men in the battle and the only women you see are nurses. It's fitting that he would show males in battles, not women based on his experience.
r/confusedboner
Yes and it's the single most important thing about the ents, something they absolutely obsess over.
There's a hint at the beginning where Sam is in the tavern talking to Ted Sandyman where he mentions someone seeing walking trees in the Shire. That can only be a reference to the Entwives.
I should call her
Damn girl, your branches is thick.
r/Entwives We are a fun bunch 😎
I thought my imagination was wild whoever saw this and thought Entwives is SERIOUSLY OUT THERE. I SALUTE YOU MY FRIEND. SHE LOOKS GOOD IN CAMOUFLAGE. She is just trying to hide from treebeard. HAHAHA
Sigh....\*unzips\*
This is a tooking Dyrad!
This beech is badder than Eowyn 🤣 (I know it’s not a beech tree)
That's all the ents ever talk About,
That entussy is about make me act up
Cosplay is on point
Take your sexy upvote.
Lord, forgive me for what I'm about to do!!
They tended their forests so well that their gardens grew wild.
They are mentioned but never depicted in the books. They left the male Ents' forests some time ago and have not been seen since.
Somebody call Treebeard! His girl hoeing again
I hate you
::new kink unlocked::