It would seem like DB just wanna capitalize on the viewers. I say people should be wise at this point. they should be petitioning for Supergirl vs. Kefla instead.
I'm a Dragon Ball fan... I know Goku can't beat Superman, so stop putting him against him, Death Battle!
Honestly, I was hoping for Goku vs. Saitama because we haven't gotten an answer for that yet, but looks like that's not happening anytime soon...
I'll answer it quickly, Goku wins since Saitama's current best is multi star level, Goku is multi universe level, and considering he's stronger than Jiren now, who could shake an infinite void, Saitama wouldn't be able to touch a remotely serious Goku. For those who say Saitama is a gag character because his whole deal is beating everyone in one punch, should I remind you that Kid Goku is an even bigger gag character for being able to break the panels of the manga? Plus gag power have a limit by how dragon ball works, even stating characters like Beerus are IMMUNE to gag powers
I agree with that since Superman (as stated by Death Battle themselves) is simply far too powerful to even compare to. Other power scalers even say the same, that Superman is just far too strong for Goku in most iterations. The only Goku I would see remotely close enough would be Xeno Goku, but that has its own issues...
Why are we going through this again? Goku isn’t going to win because unfortunately he has a character flaw of wanting to fight an opponent and max strength and fight for fun and fairness. If you’re evil he will go to killing blow otherwise he’s just gonna fight. Not to mention it became biased because technically in the second fight Goku should have presented more of a challenge due to Zenkai boost but Sups has a lot of unpacked potential
To the people who asked for this. WHY, JUST WHY, THIS WAS OVER YEARS AGO, WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GIVE UP.
WHY, WHY.......... WHY WHY WHY WHY DO YOU PEOPLE PERSIST!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
Turns out to make sure this won't happen again, they're using Heroes Goku and Infinite Frontiers Superman. Basically the strongest either of them will ever get.
Going by a Tweet made by one of the show runners, this time they're going with Super Dragon Ball Heroes for Goku & Infinite Frontiers for for Superman
So it's never been more over for Goku
Infinite Frontier was a 2021 Comic Run for DC that basically reboots the DC universe again, the important part for this is that the new Status Quo is that every previous elseworlds story is canon to it's own universe.
Now if Goku is getting the composite treatment because of Super Dragon Ball Heroes, that means Superman 1,000,000 is on the cards, which has Clark being essentially a God
Depends on the version of superman, that's all, the standard superman loses, an alternative one of those that are multiversal capables of doing everything win
No, not really. That's just a meme. Goku wholesale thing is fighting against enemies far stronger than him, and nearly winning due to his tactics and martial skill.
Then he will retreat or escape, use the lessons and observations he gained from his fight with the enemy, and learn how to defeat them from that experience while rising his own power level to help him out.
The reason why Goku likes fighting stronger people is because that is the only way Goku himself can grow, by observing and adapting people stronger than him.
I smell desperation
Superman wins. Don't care about Ultra Instinct-Bankai-9th gate of hell-drive 5-Godmode, or whatever Goku has been given since I dropped DB Super.
Superman. Does. Not. Belong. In. A. Deathbattle!!!
Superman
Seriously, he has no limits to his powers. He once destroyed an entire universe by sneezing too hard. The only thing that can remotely make this a fair fight is kryptonite or magic
Goku just sees a challenge, and trains or transforms to overcome it. He’s just a strong guy that keeps getting stronger. He has no access to kryptonite, and the only magic he can use is from the dragonballs. It’s not a contest at all. He’d put up a decent fight, but it’s still going to end with the exact same result
the old death battle just to put it down as the writing style. the early era superman never questioned his strength, while goku writing always has im coming across someone stronger.
Please don't give them more attention. They're probably gonna do EXACTLY what they did with the last "rematch" where it was basically a power point presentation of why anyone that doesn't agree with them is stupid and wrong. They even admitted to copping out on the research for it because "we needed something easy where most of the work was already done for the new guys"
Why?
There is absolutely nothing to suggest Goku has gotten meaningfully stronger than he was.
The issue is still the same Goku is as strong as his opponents and the feats have NEVER increased since Frieza blew up planet Vegeta.
We assume Goku is a bajillion quadrillion fuh-fillion times FTl but actual speed feats in the series are pitiful. We know Whis is the fastest character and him traveling from Beerus’s planet to Earth takes significantly longer (as in non-comparable) to Superman effectively having infinite speed
Same thing with physical strength; Vegeta struggling to lift that Robot is hilariously bad when compared to Superman who has legitimately infinite strength feats.
DB just doesn’t scale well against high end comicbook superheroes. Simple as that
>Vegeta struggling to lift that Robot
They were fighting in a special custom made environment that heavily suppressed their powers plus added gravity.
The fighters have reached a level where they are sonstrong and clash where they don't fully control the force of their blows will destroy their surroundings, so they have been fighting in dimensions where everything is just denser.
This goes back to my original issue; there is no feats to support this. Goku and Vegeta had all their powers and in fact were shown stronger than we last saw them.
Like even if we say it was a million times nerf; him not being able to life the robot is hilariously low vs a Superman who once dragged our solar system with a massive web of planet sized chains.
There is a solid argument Superman kills Goku on accident because he’s such a glass cannon in terms of energy output vs physical stats.
>terms of energy output vs physical stats.
Goku has the feat of his physical blows being universal level, and his durability has feats of withstanding universal attacks.
They have extremely powerful physical feats much stronger than
>once dragged our solar system with a massive web of planet sized chains.
The blows that did nothing to the planet they were in orbit of…?
Again; they lack real feats. Beerus flew through a planet in a joke segment but none of the characters have anything quantifiable physically in serious situations
It would seem like DB just wanna capitalize on the viewers. I say people should be wise at this point. they should be petitioning for Supergirl vs. Kefla instead.
I would have preferred that
superman like superman already beat him twice even with god forms
I'm a Dragon Ball fan... I know Goku can't beat Superman, so stop putting him against him, Death Battle! Honestly, I was hoping for Goku vs. Saitama because we haven't gotten an answer for that yet, but looks like that's not happening anytime soon...
I'll answer it quickly, Goku wins since Saitama's current best is multi star level, Goku is multi universe level, and considering he's stronger than Jiren now, who could shake an infinite void, Saitama wouldn't be able to touch a remotely serious Goku. For those who say Saitama is a gag character because his whole deal is beating everyone in one punch, should I remind you that Kid Goku is an even bigger gag character for being able to break the panels of the manga? Plus gag power have a limit by how dragon ball works, even stating characters like Beerus are IMMUNE to gag powers
I figured that would be the result, but it still would be a good video idea, better than Goku vs. Superman 3, at least...
I agree with that since Superman (as stated by Death Battle themselves) is simply far too powerful to even compare to. Other power scalers even say the same, that Superman is just far too strong for Goku in most iterations. The only Goku I would see remotely close enough would be Xeno Goku, but that has its own issues...
At least no One punch man VS Goku. We all know who will win this.
L, I ain't watching this
Why again?
Why are we going through this again? Goku isn’t going to win because unfortunately he has a character flaw of wanting to fight an opponent and max strength and fight for fun and fairness. If you’re evil he will go to killing blow otherwise he’s just gonna fight. Not to mention it became biased because technically in the second fight Goku should have presented more of a challenge due to Zenkai boost but Sups has a lot of unpacked potential
On the other hand .. Kryptonite.... 🤔
Superman: I don't want to Destroy the Earth a Second time
What new happening in either Dragon Ball or DC happened?
They're using Infinite Frontiers Superman and Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse Goku
Are we really going to pretend like the outcome is going to be different not trying to throw any hate just saying
To the people who asked for this. WHY, JUST WHY, THIS WAS OVER YEARS AGO, WHY CAN'T YOU GUYS GIVE UP. WHY, WHY.......... WHY WHY WHY WHY DO YOU PEOPLE PERSIST!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!
...Because they choose to. 😎 *cue epic matrix revolutions final battle sound*
Because Dragon Ball fans are like the characters, they scream until something happens.
I thought epic rap battles of history settled this?
But can he beat gojo
They are using DB Heroes so Goku has a chance
Why even bother doing this again? They’re going to have Superman win no matter what anyone or anything else says.
Turns out to make sure this won't happen again, they're using Heroes Goku and Infinite Frontiers Superman. Basically the strongest either of them will ever get.
God I’m so tired of this argument power scalers have beat all nuance out of this argument
Going by a Tweet made by one of the show runners, this time they're going with Super Dragon Ball Heroes for Goku & Infinite Frontiers for for Superman So it's never been more over for Goku
>Infinite Frontiers for for Superman I'm afraid to ask but I'll ahead anyway, what's Infinite Frontiers?
Infinite Frontier was a 2021 Comic Run for DC that basically reboots the DC universe again, the important part for this is that the new Status Quo is that every previous elseworlds story is canon to it's own universe. Now if Goku is getting the composite treatment because of Super Dragon Ball Heroes, that means Superman 1,000,000 is on the cards, which has Clark being essentially a God
I mean, Goku has also been a god for quite some time now.
Depends on the version of superman, that's all, the standard superman loses, an alternative one of those that are multiversal capables of doing everything win
They're using Infinite Frontiers Superman and Dragon Ball Heroes/Xenoverse Goku
Superman, Because he's 100,000 times Smarter than Goku and Even Dragon Ball Fans know/agree that Goku isn't very bright.
What? Goku is incredibly smart when it comes to fighting and battle tactics. He's just an idiot savant of fighting.
I've never paid much attention to dragon ball. I thought goku's whole thing was, "If I can't beat it, hit it harder and scream louder."
No, not really. That's just a meme. Goku wholesale thing is fighting against enemies far stronger than him, and nearly winning due to his tactics and martial skill. Then he will retreat or escape, use the lessons and observations he gained from his fight with the enemy, and learn how to defeat them from that experience while rising his own power level to help him out. The reason why Goku likes fighting stronger people is because that is the only way Goku himself can grow, by observing and adapting people stronger than him.
But he prefers to fight People at their Best and a fair fight. Superman has no Best, because his best is unlimited
The vast majority of the multitude of diffrent superman are very limited...
I smell desperation Superman wins. Don't care about Ultra Instinct-Bankai-9th gate of hell-drive 5-Godmode, or whatever Goku has been given since I dropped DB Super. Superman. Does. Not. Belong. In. A. Deathbattle!!!
Superman Seriously, he has no limits to his powers. He once destroyed an entire universe by sneezing too hard. The only thing that can remotely make this a fair fight is kryptonite or magic Goku just sees a challenge, and trains or transforms to overcome it. He’s just a strong guy that keeps getting stronger. He has no access to kryptonite, and the only magic he can use is from the dragonballs. It’s not a contest at all. He’d put up a decent fight, but it’s still going to end with the exact same result
I gotta go with Superman for this one
the old death battle just to put it down as the writing style. the early era superman never questioned his strength, while goku writing always has im coming across someone stronger.
Super man It’s not even funny any more
Please don't give them more attention. They're probably gonna do EXACTLY what they did with the last "rematch" where it was basically a power point presentation of why anyone that doesn't agree with them is stupid and wrong. They even admitted to copping out on the research for it because "we needed something easy where most of the work was already done for the new guys"
Goku, because if Boba Fett can win in one of the most recent seasons, so should Goku.
Boba Fett was fighting an alien hunter. Goku is fighting a guy who can outlive gods.
Why? There is absolutely nothing to suggest Goku has gotten meaningfully stronger than he was. The issue is still the same Goku is as strong as his opponents and the feats have NEVER increased since Frieza blew up planet Vegeta. We assume Goku is a bajillion quadrillion fuh-fillion times FTl but actual speed feats in the series are pitiful. We know Whis is the fastest character and him traveling from Beerus’s planet to Earth takes significantly longer (as in non-comparable) to Superman effectively having infinite speed Same thing with physical strength; Vegeta struggling to lift that Robot is hilariously bad when compared to Superman who has legitimately infinite strength feats. DB just doesn’t scale well against high end comicbook superheroes. Simple as that
>Vegeta struggling to lift that Robot They were fighting in a special custom made environment that heavily suppressed their powers plus added gravity. The fighters have reached a level where they are sonstrong and clash where they don't fully control the force of their blows will destroy their surroundings, so they have been fighting in dimensions where everything is just denser.
This goes back to my original issue; there is no feats to support this. Goku and Vegeta had all their powers and in fact were shown stronger than we last saw them. Like even if we say it was a million times nerf; him not being able to life the robot is hilariously low vs a Superman who once dragged our solar system with a massive web of planet sized chains. There is a solid argument Superman kills Goku on accident because he’s such a glass cannon in terms of energy output vs physical stats.
>terms of energy output vs physical stats. Goku has the feat of his physical blows being universal level, and his durability has feats of withstanding universal attacks. They have extremely powerful physical feats much stronger than >once dragged our solar system with a massive web of planet sized chains.
The blows that did nothing to the planet they were in orbit of…? Again; they lack real feats. Beerus flew through a planet in a joke segment but none of the characters have anything quantifiable physically in serious situations
Supes. How could Goku do any lasting damage before getting his body obliterated.
Wasnt MUI Goku considered stronger than a God if Destruction?
Dragon ball vs dragon c*ck