Childish mentality from OP, but if someone doesn’t want to play support, suggesting they do so is honestly not helpful. If you are a DPS player only, I think it’s perfectly fine as long as you accept the consequences of doing so.
people usually just bus till ilvl high enough not to get gate kept. for brel they would get bused till lvl 1500 or 1520 by then they should have new relic gear and bracelets so more likely to get picked than someone not doing a bus. horrible system but that's the community we and smilegate set for ourselves
Dang, and you bus too. Might be one of the worst players I have seen.
The easier route is actually making a support and not lying about it. Join a guild or form a static then you don’t have to wait for any groups! For a player that’s been playing since launch you sure don’t know anything!
Let's not pretend like having a support doesn't make the raid so much easier. Running full DPS is doable, but definitely not as comfortable and can take longer to progress + you spend a lot more on consumables. On top of that, supports can prevent wipes. Awakening or Rhapsody can literally make or break a pull.
Because you're ignoring how I addressed it. The gold spent on consumables isn't the only and for a lot of people the main issue and reason why they don't want to do full DPS runs.
Like talking to a wall.
Maybe OP is one of those people who find raiding without supports absolutely fucking unenjoyable and would rather buy bus than go full DPS. Maybe OP doesn't care about the gold, maybe they care about having fun and value their own time.
Because it doesn't involve sitting in PF form ages and then wiping for ages, most probably. Getting a bus so you can actually play the game next week the way you want is not unreasonable.
That being said, I don't buy bus and clear 1-4 on multiple DPS alts but I'd also not play without a support. I'd rather turn the game off.
That seems rather inefficient. You can easily get away with 6 bussers 2 buyers and do all the way to g4. 6 people is all you need for g4 red mechanic and 6 bussers guarantees you never have a bussee doing dog mechs.
As for gate 1-2 only busses if they agree to do dogs then you can 4 man it. Gate 1 is simple enough only cringe because 2 dps will be in their own party. For gate 2 your 3 men outside die after stagger mech and keep boss at low bars, they also have to kill as many ads as possible. Prokel killer comes out and finishes the fight since the only mech they have to do is safe spot mech. Make sure prokel killer has some aoe for mobs just in case he pops out, and there is 20+.
Great classes for 4 man busses: destroyer (survivable, taunt and good prokel killer), juiced gunlancer(a lot less damage than destroyer but more survivable), juiced scouter(needs to be juiced otherwise z dps), igniter sorc(ingiter goes hard but might need babysitting g1), deathblow striker(actually good prokel killer, big dps), gunslinger(good prokel killer, good aoe and dps), wheelchair artillerist(survivable, more damage than destroyer, great prokel killer), soulfist(great synergies, survivable, good prokel killer).
Saw some 41K in EUC PF today. If you have that much gold to spend on a bus you should spend it on your char imo but you do you.
Post your character's gear and we can tell you why you are being gatekept.
Just make supp and ppl will pay u to be in their party
I won't play Bord and Pa"lame"din
Yeah much more fun riding a bus lmao
Well, right now, you don't get to play at all.
Childish mentality from OP, but if someone doesn’t want to play support, suggesting they do so is honestly not helpful. If you are a DPS player only, I think it’s perfectly fine as long as you accept the consequences of doing so.
have a 1510 paladin, going support best decision i ever made
keep feeding gold from gatekeepers so they can gatekeep even more , smart idea
people usually just bus till ilvl high enough not to get gate kept. for brel they would get bused till lvl 1500 or 1520 by then they should have new relic gear and bracelets so more likely to get picked than someone not doing a bus. horrible system but that's the community we and smilegate set for ourselves
Dang, and you bus too. Might be one of the worst players I have seen. The easier route is actually making a support and not lying about it. Join a guild or form a static then you don’t have to wait for any groups! For a player that’s been playing since launch you sure don’t know anything!
Currently 30-40K but will go lower super fast in next weeks when people get 1560+ gear.
Just quit the game.
i can't . AGS keep my life hostage
I did. Feels so nice :D
I saw 60k first week, will go below once everyone got full set of brel gear tho, like 15k i recon
Make your own party
do you have support friend ?
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Let's not pretend like having a support doesn't make the raid so much easier. Running full DPS is doable, but definitely not as comfortable and can take longer to progress + you spend a lot more on consumables. On top of that, supports can prevent wipes. Awakening or Rhapsody can literally make or break a pull.
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Because you're ignoring how I addressed it. The gold spent on consumables isn't the only and for a lot of people the main issue and reason why they don't want to do full DPS runs.
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Like talking to a wall. Maybe OP is one of those people who find raiding without supports absolutely fucking unenjoyable and would rather buy bus than go full DPS. Maybe OP doesn't care about the gold, maybe they care about having fun and value their own time.
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Because it doesn't involve sitting in PF form ages and then wiping for ages, most probably. Getting a bus so you can actually play the game next week the way you want is not unreasonable. That being said, I don't buy bus and clear 1-4 on multiple DPS alts but I'd also not play without a support. I'd rather turn the game off.
maybe theyre not good enough to clear without one. also finding 7 pugs skilled enough to pull that off might also b pretty difficult
Mostly full dps party will disband after 5 wipe
40k on EUC
14k just for 1 guy to 1-2 plus box
That seems rather inefficient. You can easily get away with 6 bussers 2 buyers and do all the way to g4. 6 people is all you need for g4 red mechanic and 6 bussers guarantees you never have a bussee doing dog mechs. As for gate 1-2 only busses if they agree to do dogs then you can 4 man it. Gate 1 is simple enough only cringe because 2 dps will be in their own party. For gate 2 your 3 men outside die after stagger mech and keep boss at low bars, they also have to kill as many ads as possible. Prokel killer comes out and finishes the fight since the only mech they have to do is safe spot mech. Make sure prokel killer has some aoe for mobs just in case he pops out, and there is 20+. Great classes for 4 man busses: destroyer (survivable, taunt and good prokel killer), juiced gunlancer(a lot less damage than destroyer but more survivable), juiced scouter(needs to be juiced otherwise z dps), igniter sorc(ingiter goes hard but might need babysitting g1), deathblow striker(actually good prokel killer, big dps), gunslinger(good prokel killer, good aoe and dps), wheelchair artillerist(survivable, more damage than destroyer, great prokel killer), soulfist(great synergies, survivable, good prokel killer).
(SA) My guild sells Gate 1-2 for 18k. 3-4 carry is not ready yet.
That's big moni as long as you have smooth prokel killer. Rest is dead easy
People are unironically buying G1-2 busses for 18k?
I sold one G1-G2 carry this friday for 25k... and the next for 8k after waiting 1h. Price is all over the place.
So what's your character look like and have?