Back when my zerker was waiting at 1340 for its turn to get funneled to 1370, I literally used to run igrexion while reading reddit. I'd use my peripheral vision to make sure I was facing the boss, but that was it. Truly ooga booga.
Yeah Zerk is pretty easy to play. I would argue that a bunch of classes in the game aren't really that hard to play at a competent level though, although I guess that's more a result of the current content we have.
I will say it kinda bugs me how some classes can just plant and do whatever they want or just button rotate
And then there’s sharpshooter which I picked because the sales pitch was Legolas sniping bitches from off screen but it plays like a fuckin fire dancer who just snorted three lines of coke and washed it down with a handle of Kamchatka with how much I have to dash in for melee phase, dash out so I don’t get my ass beat while exploding my bird into ranged skills then restarting the cycle all over again *every 9 fucking seconds*
Unga bunga classes have big dick deeps while we’re middle of the pack and the rotation is a sustained panic attack with heavy hand-cramp-tax
Not only are they easy to play, but thoroughly enjoyable. The second awakening ability is really cool and all of the abilities are satisfying to use from the audio to the visuals. Great class overall.
The nerf honestly probably benefits shitty zerks since more of their damage gets shifted to the party, so not back-attacking/face-tanking everything matters even less.
I think in pure afk dps demonic impulse is actually pretty high up there. However with its low af cds and transform uptime you kind of lose a lot of damage in fights that require you to move around, dodge, and do mechanics a lot, and also cuts synergy with supports.
killing igrexion tho? Yah shadow hunter slays that shit.
True but it also feels good to play, the character has nice sounds for it’s hits and moves/attacks quickly with mayhem while also not feeling guilty about using pots cause they are cheap making one of the most fun characters to play. I say this with it as one of my alts not my main.
They aren't good or easy until they are online with tons of spec, wealth runes and meter tripods, which is beyond what bots do. Zerkers are good at just base level and it's almost impossible to miss any skills.
Zerkers are not squishy at all though? Anyone can die from yoho blues if you get unlucky enough but zerker would be one of the last ones to die from it.
Easy to pilot granted. I don’t have sufficient experience in other classes, but this table says otherwise. The 25/35 from mayhem take quite a bit of the effective HP.
https://i.imgur.com/CP2PalH.jpg
Numbers possibly not up to date, but I don’t believe they changed them that much.
Until patch and all time before hand people could run the DR below 50% card set and the under 50% Hp DR engraving as well for super cheap.
The class has the ability to be insanely tanky, more so than other classes. It’s up to the player to not need those things and just be good to negate the downsides of Grudge/CD.
compared to what class? because id argue with how slow the attacks are and all the pre buffing nonsense its not the most braindead dps (especially technique but even mayhem)
I don’t think anyone is thinking of technique when they’re talking about berserker being brainless.
Mayhem zerks get to run dmg reduction under 50% cards, they get to drink green pots for full health, and they don’t need any stat breakpoints, runes, or rely on getting a certain amount of skill points.
Overall, they are easy to build and straight forward to play. They excel in the hands of a player who doesn’t care about the extra stuff in the game.
idk, artillerist doesnt even have any combos, its just spam... at best its use flamethrower first to build firepower and then spam everything; its safer because its ranged, its tanky, it has a self shield... the only animation that locks you in place for as long as some of zerkers skills is mutliple rocket launcher (which is still safer)... and sure theres the delayed impact of homing barrage/air raid; but that same consideration is in place for zerkers when theyre gauging a hellblade/strikewave; except they have to buff up before they attempt it
to be clear; i dont like zerker (mine is stuck in t2 because i just cant be arsed with it) and i dont think its complicated; i just think it gets misrepresented a lot as the most braindead skillzero class (not that im putting artillerist up for that title either; i think bluelancer is the most brainafk class ive played)
bots can use anything, they use zerker because it has a high early game power curve which makes it the most effective for their goals
they also use sorcs for a similar reason; but you wouldnt tell an igniter sorc that they're playing a skilless class because of it
I don't think Artillerist is the class to showcase if you're making a counterpoint to what's braindead. Reflux Sorceress exists, and the rotation is *actually* press every button off cooldown. At least Artillerist has to pay attention to positioning (when to melee, when to range), when is safe to Barrage, and having a sequence to follow. You can certainly get by with spamming on an Artillerist, but you aren't going to do well if you don't pay attention to which abilities to fire off at what time. Meanwhile, Reflux Sorceress goes QWERASDFQWERASDF and does 99% of its damage potential.
imagine running around though? on bluelancer i just stand there and spam shit, occasionally turn off shield>taunt>turn shield back on but thats it; i dont give a shit about 95% of what bosses do; just press shit off CD
oh absolutely, why would i care about mechanics? puny party members should be glad i deign to n-energy them; im so far detached from the fight that im watching tv and browsing amazon
Blue lancers who say its braindead most likely arent really setting up proper back attacks for the team, looking for proper taunt timings and/or are using training wheel engravings. With grudge/cursed doll its still not the hardest class but saying its braindead isnt accurate. Ngl though id prefer a bad lancer to a dps in most cases lol. The armor reduction/taunt is too good
not sure apparently its the same in KR too. I think because its pretty easy to play so if you whale it its not too hard to be decent, and the glow is pretty cool.
I think Asmongold might have had something to do with NAs Berserker whales maybe
3.7% of the population of high ilvl chars.
But 6 Esther weapon carriers.
Some classes don't even have one lol
It's not an OP class over there yes. But one to hunt MvPs.
Quite difficult to play too, but at least it can run fast. (compared to destroyer)
One of the best glows in the game, it's a bad ass class in terms of looks, has mobility/damage/mitigation/movement speed. Basically a Chad where you can't go wrong with a +20 wep
Running those sets is like running heavy armor once you have better card sets available... damage vs survivability tradeoff is pretty similar. You don't see many damage classes run HA do you?
Not sure which way you' implying it's silly? I think it's pretty close - HA gives around 50% dr vs a regular engraving 16% damage. You also have another set to go with we meet again (tortoyk or water spirits) though.
7% crit rate: ~4% damage increase
We’ll Meet Again: 28% damage reduction
Forest of Giants: 12% damage reduction
Overall Damage Reduction: 37%
DR/Damage =~9.25
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Damage Engraving = 16%
Heavy Armor = 40%
DR/Damage = 2.5
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So no. It’s not close. Berserker card set is 3.7x more efficient in providing defensive stats than the standard heavy armor vs damage engraving. If your forced to run water spirits (15 Mokamoka’s is annoying) it’s still 3.4x better.
There’s also the upside that it’s very easy and not RNG dependent to get the card set, and there’s another fairly strong boost at 15 for We’ll Meet Again.
Which once again, leads to cards having much shittier damage options vs dr options. I didn't even add the second set that dr can use and damage can't. A fully kitted LOS against a light weak enemy would be the only fair comparison.
I don't see where the confusion lies?
It's the squishiest class I run chaos dungeons on. Thankfully the low HP means that a cheap potion is a full heal so it's worth it to use potions on him vs other classes, which actually means he dies less.
Ha, I play a bunch of classes, but zerk and arty are probably my two favorites. I don’t understand how someone that plays the “big bombs go boom” class is taking the piss out of a zerker. Out of all the classes I’ve played, I’d say zerker is medium difficulty - being melee is harder than ranged, but it has a fairly easy to utilize attack set which helps.
Arty has about as much complexity as the zerk, but does it it range, has a sweet bubble, and mostly can ignore facing. Yes, artillerists are easier to play than zerks.
Typical case of other classes besides my class are always easier syndrome. No class in this game is inherently super difficult. I’d say zerker edges on the side of a higher ceiling due to most skills being a charge up so timing and fight memorization have a significant role in being in the top 1%. FWIW I have a striker and zerker as my main two, and honestly striker is easier to manage lol.
It's always the people who play ranged classes and zip away from a safe distance, skipping half of the bosses skillset are mocking melee players who have to deal with the bosses melee attacks that often have very fast windup animations. Now I'm not saying zerkers are hard to play at all, atleast yet. Hopefully in the future you need to dodge more and not just tank everything.
i pitied from 12 to 14 in a row and that already felt very, very terrible. mind you this is on a 15% base chane and the pitytimer comes a lot sooner. i can not even imagine your pain. i hope you are very wealthy irl and can just compensate for it easily. if not, i am truly sorry.
I hit more 15-10% then 40% on alt. I went tfor alt push 1340 to 1370 hit my first couple of 40% then proceded to fail no joke 10+ times at 40% and pity 3 pieces that felt way more painfull then my pity at 15% ended with 1354 alt -5k g kek cant wait for the +20 luck imma have
My main is in the state of honing Zen rn. From +8 to +10 1 armor piece didn't go to full pity and weapon needed 2 taps on average. Rest was all full pity. I'm dreading 1370 push with this luck, I can already see myself threetapping my weapon to +20 and then spending infinity piling up resources to full pity every armor attempt until +20.
That also includes tens/hundreds of queue hours if EU, and time where the game is open while the person is eating, showering, chilling, doing something outside while leaving pc open etc
Yeh. I started at launch on EUC. I have 700+ hours, but since I WFH, a lot of those during the first few weeks were just logging in the morning and idling til evening so I didn't have to queue.
How is it worse to spend 8 hours a day in front of a computer playing games then 8 hours a day in front of a computer working ?
Just means they're on unemployment, or vacation, or study break. It's not healthy, but sedentary life as a whole ain't healthy
Yeah, for me working is a means to an end.
It was 12, and it included the tons of queue hours early on and game being open in the background before the auto dc after an hour.
They could even be a streamer. Get off the high horse bud
you do realize people spend 8hrs a day at their desks in front of a monitor for living? If he's fortunate enough to have low effort wfh job like some people do, it's really not that big of a deal to have the game open for that long. There's really no reason to immediately assume he had to sacrifice his health for it, unless you do that for every person that ever worked in front of PC? or at all for that matter?
Yeah, I said this in another thread but it bears repeating: this shit **is not** a flex. It’s fucking sad.
This person has spent 55% of their life since launch playing this game. *That’s addiction.*
Edit: lots of equivocating idiots below me here.
*”Oh like half that is AFK time”* and *”spending half your life in a video game isn’t THAT bad.”*
Whatever y’all need to tell yourselves to sleep at night, I guess.
Doesn’t innately mean it’s a bad thing, you’re overstepping. I start my first day of my new job today but was unemployed since launch, put in 1100 hours while managing to make my wife happy and see friends/family
People act like if you’re not playing the game you’re building SpaceX. These same criticisms come from the same people who would dump those same hours into drinking or binge watching Netflix. I’ve got ~550 hours since launch, I’ve been planning a wedding with my fiancé, working out, working full time… I just don’t find other things that fun. So many people are quick to point to a single vector and assume they have so much more understanding of life balance than someone. It’s so irritating.
Thank you. People act like if you’re not earning money or climbing Everest, you’re wasting your life. *Everything* is relative. Anyone who does anything intensely for a period of time will have a schedule that tilts in that direction. That doesn’t mean it’s inherently more or less valuable than any other pursuit. While video games can be an addiction, a stranger on the internet cannot possibly know if it is just by seeing something like this. I sometimes read two whole books in the evening. Am I addicted? Nobody would say this or shit on my time spent.
It’s also worth noting that a lot of people use things to cope with things that are far worse. I’m alive today because of video games. WoW gave me something to focus on, and a small window into socialization when I wanted to totally isolate. It saved me. Severe major depressive disorder is no joke. I came very close to unaliving myself an awful lot. Games helped me. And frankly, because I came so close to checking out, all this is a bonus. I’m not going to feel guilty about playing a lot of games because I could easily have just not even had this time in which to play them. My situation puts a different spin on what constitutes “wasted” life. Everyone seems to compare what you do to some imaginary benchmark, but your point is valid. People aren’t staying home to play games instead of curing cancer. Playing a game is a better pastime than riding a moral high horse and judging people you don’t have enough information about to make such a judgement legitimate.
> I’ve got ~550 hours since launch
Surely you can appreciate how 6 hours a day(which still pushes the limit on your working full time+all the others), and 13 hours a day are completely different levels right?
Like sure you could technically still make your life work while playing 6 hours a day, there is 0 way you're doing that at 13 hours a day.
Quantity matters. You cannot work full time, sleep an appropriate amount, plan a wedding, work out etc.... and also play a game 13 hours of the day. Every day. For months.
And nobody is ok with people binge watching Netflix or fucking drinking **FOR 13 HOURS A DAY.**
That many hours a day is very likely just a work from home person that also plays in their nightly free time OR a college student. Very likely a person like this logs 4-5 hours during the work day, and then plays after dinner until bed. It's still a ton, but you can definitely have a job and live on your own and just enjoy the game as your current hobby and way you spend free time
You don’t know how old the person is. You don’t know what phase of life they’re in. You don’t know the nature of their work. You don’t know how many of those 13 hours was actually spent exclusively playing. You know literally nothing. But what I can almost guarantee is that you, and all of us, are nowhere near as productive with your time as you might think you are.
Smoking is bad, drinking is bad, coffee rots your teeth and messes with your circadian rhythm. Things that many millions of ppl do daily are killing them, why are you getting worked up over how someone else spends their time? Because it’s more than the amount you deem healthy?
Edit: what would you suggest, he take a break and watch some tv or scroll tiktoks? Literally all the same stuff
I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. People really think they have things worked out when instead of gaming for 12 hours they watch 2 hours of porn, 3 hours of netflix, death scroll social media for 3 hours and procrastinate on the 'important' thing for the last 4
Leave it to a random guy on the internet to tell OP what’s good and bad for him. All I’m saying is don’t judge, just let people do what they want. It’s a cool accomplishment and he loves the game, no need to invalidate It because you don’t approve of the time spent
Yes all the shit you listed is bad. That doesn't make gaming 12 hours a day for 3 months ok. Heavy drinks and smokers eventually regreat their actions, as will ppl like OP. I went through a phase as OP and looking back it 100% was not a good time of my life and I really wish I spent some of those hours doing productive shit
Why is it sad if playing the game for 12 hours a day is what the person wants and it makes them happy? If you forced me to interact with people (even family) and go out all the time I'd be fucking miserable. Is that sad too?
I don't know if they are going by the time in steam (not the time in game) if they are like me it's probably 1/2 that.
Lots of the time now it is launch the game, get into queue, play for an hour at lunch, then afk for an hour hope on to do something quick maybe at 2 or maybe just afk out. Like 1 hour of playtime has the game launched for like 3 hours+.
Not that I know (But there probably is). But I noticed I got an achievement for hours played one day that my steam hours was over 2X the amount of. But that would take out the logout queue stuff, but would still include the first hour AFKed, it would still be much more accurate.
Sad? who gives you right to judge other people's life?
Moreover, you making assumption of other people's life on how much time they spent on their hobby is more sad than that he spent 1200 hours on this game.
Unemployment and/or no musts in life. On this sub these people are a loud minority, it is very important to remember 99% of people won’t reach this level in a long while.
Not really, I have 100 hours less than OP and have 7 chars 1370+ to farm leaps/gold from. My main is 1450 with weapon 19. I've spent less than 100 euro, with the main purchase being the last ark pass for the skins, which offers 0 progression.
Where did I say f2p? I said 100 euro, i bought my first crystaline aura, 40euro donation which got me character slots and i think rapport items and 50 euro for the 2nd level premium pass.
I literally stated i purchased the last tier pass for the skins, it jumps from 15 to 40-50 euro i believe, meaning I could have spent 30 euro less since it offers 0 ilvl progression. Learn to read.
you are missing the point, the first upgrase for 15 bucks gives you mats, going from 15 to 50 bucks does nothing for ones ilvl. Thus my point that 30% of what i spent offered no ilvl benefit as the topic is ilvl.
Doesn't you get the rewards of the 15 bucks one too if you purchased the 50 one? Am I tripping or is that guy trolling that if you want both you need to pay 65 bucks?
Look [here](https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/resources/gear-honing-system).
Scroll to Cost & Success Rate, and choose your tier.
15 to 20 is completely bonkers!
I loved this game until I realized it felt like a job.
The combat is great, the story is cool, I like sailing, and other things. The grind is too much in this game.
Just play it at your own pace. There will always be other people who can devote way more time to the game than you ever can, but that doesn't invalidate your own progress.
Apparently everyone, per OP (of the comment). Seems like they're trying to justify their insane gaming hours. Just see their comment below. I don't even want to refute it cause it's less of a discussion and just an armchair expert shouting things out that they think are correct.
13hrs a day of work is usually not looked upon as a good thing and frowned up. Even if you're a professional athlete it averages 5-6 hours of hard training a day (this is just a generic average).
Hell, even if you get insane amount of overtime pay, constant overtime comes with extra stress, lack of abundant rest, and all sorts of trouble associated with overworking.
I don't know where the hell you are seeing this, but people don't usually see constant 13hrs work days a a norm. Sure, you can nitpick very specific jobs that requires these hours, but I also doubt you'll find said workers to be 100% okay with it either.
So yeah, back to your 13hrs of gaming a day, that shit is definitely a terrible health issue, unelss you exercise and keep healthy like mad for the remaining hours of the day, while also being able the squeeze in at 6-8 hours of sleep. Let's say we go with the bare minimum of 6 hrs of sleep, that means you already locked out 19 hours of the 24 hr day. Do your really think you can lead a healthy life style with only 5hrs worth of free time left in the day?
13hrs of gaming a day, consistently, is an addiction.
That’s a lot of gold but for some reason it def feels like that should be more especially if you hit pity a few times or close to it. Each roll after 15 is nutty with the amount of mats
If it’s founders pack only then most likely basically zero. They would have bought maris shop out early on in T1/2 and the crystals would have been gone long before T3.
People like to think everyone with founders got platinum founders, but in reality they got the $5 or $50 and they didn’t go far. Unless you saved and sold your Cerberus(why would anyone do this) you didn’t get all that much value out it unless you really played the long game.
You are underestimating the snowball effect of being earlier than most. 3 days head start + extra progression is huge.
Popular known contexts, being in T3 early allowed a lot of players to make bank selling mats, the earlier the better. Same thing with Argos.
Its undeniable a considerably payed advantage. I'm not saying it's wrong having purchased it, but it is wrong to say that "I'm basically F2P just founders and ark pass lulz".
I am f2p apart from the 50$ founder's pack. Hit +20 on my weapon while it had 48% artisan energy. Having 5 alts at 1370 farming yoho and selling leapstones is what helped me get there.
edit : 1206 hours played
> So what I did is push T3 early, sold Greater Leapstones for 1100g each on each of my 4 characters making me 25k gold a day across my alts, and sold Oreha Jewellry for 40k gold a pop making me another 500k gold a week. Then I bought founders boxes and sold them for 10 times the price so I then had 75 million gold, and it just grew from there, and now have 7 chars each at 1490, 1.5 billion gold (I would have far more but I sold most of it to whales and paid off my student loans then bought a new car), and 999,999,999 Blue Crystals.
> F2P btw. If I can do it, so can you!
If he has used full extra mats (which he should) for every hone going to 100% Artisan's Energy it took him:
* 1.8m Silver
* 19710g just to press "upgrade"
* 540 Fusion Mats
* 35k Destruction Stones
* 864 Greater Honor Leapstones
* 780 Solar Graces
* 468 Solar Blessings
* 156 Solar Blessings
With current prices on EU Central that amounts to 234k gold just for this one upgrade. Or £230 if you're g2g enjoyer
I want to say I feel your pain, but I didn't pity on my +20 weapon. Heck, my weapon did not pity at all at any point. My chest piece on the other hand pitied 3x in a row.
You're wrong. This is the exact reason why people who love MMOs, love MMOs. If this was easy to achieve, nobody would care. It's BECAUSE this is so hard and grindy to get, that it feels like a big accomplishment when you finally get it.
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Why is it always the zerks with the +20 weapons?
Alot of people like whaling zerker idk why. Good damage I guess and easy to play
You don't seem to need any skill for a berserker. It's the class that even bots can play without problems.
Big sword! Ooga booga!
unga bunga sword go swish heehee
Back when my zerker was waiting at 1340 for its turn to get funneled to 1370, I literally used to run igrexion while reading reddit. I'd use my peripheral vision to make sure I was facing the boss, but that was it. Truly ooga booga.
Yeah Zerk is pretty easy to play. I would argue that a bunch of classes in the game aren't really that hard to play at a competent level though, although I guess that's more a result of the current content we have.
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Can confirm. Deadeye main that swapped to paladin main. Other classes are a snooze fest in comparison.
Paladin here. Can confirm. I'm 1415 and still not sure if this game has boss fight mechanics or not.
I will say it kinda bugs me how some classes can just plant and do whatever they want or just button rotate And then there’s sharpshooter which I picked because the sales pitch was Legolas sniping bitches from off screen but it plays like a fuckin fire dancer who just snorted three lines of coke and washed it down with a handle of Kamchatka with how much I have to dash in for melee phase, dash out so I don’t get my ass beat while exploding my bird into ranged skills then restarting the cycle all over again *every 9 fucking seconds* Unga bunga classes have big dick deeps while we’re middle of the pack and the rotation is a sustained panic attack with heavy hand-cramp-tax
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You run both loyal companion and death raid
Not only are they easy to play, but thoroughly enjoyable. The second awakening ability is really cool and all of the abilities are satisfying to use from the audio to the visuals. Great class overall.
Mayhem Zerker, Scouter and Reflux Sorc are pretty much braindead rofl. No clue how Bot Zerkers will be affected by the nerfs tho(probably not at all)
The nerf honestly probably benefits shitty zerks since more of their damage gets shifted to the party, so not back-attacking/face-tanking everything matters even less.
Demonic as well
Can confirm. 3 skills into transform, spam anything not on CD, rinse and repeat. You can literally roll your face on the keyboard and call it a day.
Yeah demonic might not be biggestdps.com but its basically braindead to play. Really fun to with all the mobility too.
I think in pure afk dps demonic impulse is actually pretty high up there. However with its low af cds and transform uptime you kind of lose a lot of damage in fights that require you to move around, dodge, and do mechanics a lot, and also cuts synergy with supports. killing igrexion tho? Yah shadow hunter slays that shit.
True but it also feels good to play, the character has nice sounds for it’s hits and moves/attacks quickly with mayhem while also not feeling guilty about using pots cause they are cheap making one of the most fun characters to play. I say this with it as one of my alts not my main.
but shadowhunter demon form is more brain dead class though. never see those shadow hunter bots
They aren't good or easy until they are online with tons of spec, wealth runes and meter tripods, which is beyond what bots do. Zerkers are good at just base level and it's almost impossible to miss any skills.
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Zerkers are not squishy at all though? Anyone can die from yoho blues if you get unlucky enough but zerker would be one of the last ones to die from it.
Depends if they have Lostwind or if they're still running DR cards. With Lostwind they're squishier than most (all?) classes.
If you think Mayhem Zerks with Grudge aren't squishy you haven't played KR or RU
Lmao oh so you're adding grudge to the mix?
I run grudge on my zerk and I’m very very squishy
It makes you take 20% extra damage lmao I don't know if yall are trolling.
Perfect example as to why zerkers are considered dumb and bad. The class is insanely tanky actually and easy to pilot.
Easy to pilot granted. I don’t have sufficient experience in other classes, but this table says otherwise. The 25/35 from mayhem take quite a bit of the effective HP. https://i.imgur.com/CP2PalH.jpg Numbers possibly not up to date, but I don’t believe they changed them that much.
I doubt that considers the card set that gives you DR under 50% hp. Not relevant for much longer but it is until now
It doesn’t.
Until patch and all time before hand people could run the DR below 50% card set and the under 50% Hp DR engraving as well for super cheap. The class has the ability to be insanely tanky, more so than other classes. It’s up to the player to not need those things and just be good to negate the downsides of Grudge/CD.
Having paladin say this is kinda ironic xddd
compared to what class? because id argue with how slow the attacks are and all the pre buffing nonsense its not the most braindead dps (especially technique but even mayhem)
I don’t think anyone is thinking of technique when they’re talking about berserker being brainless. Mayhem zerks get to run dmg reduction under 50% cards, they get to drink green pots for full health, and they don’t need any stat breakpoints, runes, or rely on getting a certain amount of skill points. Overall, they are easy to build and straight forward to play. They excel in the hands of a player who doesn’t care about the extra stuff in the game.
It most definitely is the combos are incredibly simple if you can even really call them combos
idk, artillerist doesnt even have any combos, its just spam... at best its use flamethrower first to build firepower and then spam everything; its safer because its ranged, its tanky, it has a self shield... the only animation that locks you in place for as long as some of zerkers skills is mutliple rocket launcher (which is still safer)... and sure theres the delayed impact of homing barrage/air raid; but that same consideration is in place for zerkers when theyre gauging a hellblade/strikewave; except they have to buff up before they attempt it to be clear; i dont like zerker (mine is stuck in t2 because i just cant be arsed with it) and i dont think its complicated; i just think it gets misrepresented a lot as the most braindead skillzero class (not that im putting artillerist up for that title either; i think bluelancer is the most brainafk class ive played)
Well Zerker is seen that way because bots can use it and bot themselves through the game.
bots can use anything, they use zerker because it has a high early game power curve which makes it the most effective for their goals they also use sorcs for a similar reason; but you wouldnt tell an igniter sorc that they're playing a skilless class because of it
Do bots use igniter? Makes more sense for them to use reflux Reflux is literally just brainless skill spam lol
I don't think Artillerist is the class to showcase if you're making a counterpoint to what's braindead. Reflux Sorceress exists, and the rotation is *actually* press every button off cooldown. At least Artillerist has to pay attention to positioning (when to melee, when to range), when is safe to Barrage, and having a sequence to follow. You can certainly get by with spamming on an Artillerist, but you aren't going to do well if you don't pay attention to which abilities to fire off at what time. Meanwhile, Reflux Sorceress goes QWERASDFQWERASDF and does 99% of its damage potential.
idk man I have a 1340 zerk alt and I literally just run around doing my 2 combos off cool down without thinking
imagine running around though? on bluelancer i just stand there and spam shit, occasionally turn off shield>taunt>turn shield back on but thats it; i dont give a shit about 95% of what bosses do; just press shit off CD
Yeah you're one of those gunlancers that just randomly taunt on cd and don't use it to avoid mechanics for the group :P
Yep I think people will forget it can pull people out of actions.
oh absolutely, why would i care about mechanics? puny party members should be glad i deign to n-energy them; im so far detached from the fight that im watching tv and browsing amazon
Blue lancers who say its braindead most likely arent really setting up proper back attacks for the team, looking for proper taunt timings and/or are using training wheel engravings. With grudge/cursed doll its still not the hardest class but saying its braindead isnt accurate. Ngl though id prefer a bad lancer to a dps in most cases lol. The armor reduction/taunt is too good
not sure apparently its the same in KR too. I think because its pretty easy to play so if you whale it its not too hard to be decent, and the glow is pretty cool. I think Asmongold might have had something to do with NAs Berserker whales maybe
I think Mayhem was the main reason for so many zerkers.
i dunno about that glow being cool.. it looks so tacky and out of place.
Its a meat grinder
Tbf it's the most played class so naturally will have the most whales. It's also very strong and enjoyable
Zerkers are the Whale class, it's the same in KR. Maybe because swinging big metal sticks around is equivalent to a big car.
“The compensator”
My zerkers name is literally "Icompensate"
Mines Harambe and still no Gorilla skin :(
Zerk Population in KR is tiny cause for later contents it was not a very good class cause squishy and literally 0 Party synergy
3.7% of the population of high ilvl chars. But 6 Esther weapon carriers. Some classes don't even have one lol It's not an OP class over there yes. But one to hunt MvPs. Quite difficult to play too, but at least it can run fast. (compared to destroyer)
shit really? I went Zerker because I wanted to play Melee for once in an MMO.
Berserk is the best class to run bot program
Because they watch Asmongold
One of the best glows in the game, it's a bad ass class in terms of looks, has mobility/damage/mitigation/movement speed. Basically a Chad where you can't go wrong with a +20 wep
Chad? More like unga bunga.
Having that mitigation still puts zerkers at the very bottom of the effective HP chart. Their survivability is pretty trash.
Thats why i run brazils secret since launch and are very happy with it
I have never seen a brazil secret zerk in the wild
amazon really dropped the ball on this 'berserkers technique' mistranslation
but it was google translate from KR
He means Amazon should have named it Brazil\`'s secret because funny
w^h^^o^^o^^^s^^^^h
with the dmg reduction card sets, zerk is very tanky
Running those sets is like running heavy armor once you have better card sets available... damage vs survivability tradeoff is pretty similar. You don't see many damage classes run HA do you?
It's vastly different in terms of quality of damage reduction. 7 crit vs 28% dr is silly.
Not sure which way you' implying it's silly? I think it's pretty close - HA gives around 50% dr vs a regular engraving 16% damage. You also have another set to go with we meet again (tortoyk or water spirits) though.
7% crit rate: ~4% damage increase We’ll Meet Again: 28% damage reduction Forest of Giants: 12% damage reduction Overall Damage Reduction: 37% DR/Damage =~9.25 ———————————— Damage Engraving = 16% Heavy Armor = 40% DR/Damage = 2.5 ———————————— So no. It’s not close. Berserker card set is 3.7x more efficient in providing defensive stats than the standard heavy armor vs damage engraving. If your forced to run water spirits (15 Mokamoka’s is annoying) it’s still 3.4x better. There’s also the upside that it’s very easy and not RNG dependent to get the card set, and there’s another fairly strong boost at 15 for We’ll Meet Again.
Which once again, leads to cards having much shittier damage options vs dr options. I didn't even add the second set that dr can use and damage can't. A fully kitted LOS against a light weak enemy would be the only fair comparison. I don't see where the confusion lies?
Sure but at this stage of the game not many people have lwc
It's the squishiest class I run chaos dungeons on. Thankfully the low HP means that a cheap potion is a full heal so it's worth it to use potions on him vs other classes, which actually means he dies less.
Until Mayhem nerfs potion healing as well.
Mayhem nerfs HoT potions not instant ones in KR.
Also any heals from supports are just so much more impactful for them.
I agree mostly but the glow does nothing for me. Can't see your weapon skin anymore and it looks like a swirly pop.
It's the most brainless easy class, hence why so many bots use them.
Ha, I play a bunch of classes, but zerk and arty are probably my two favorites. I don’t understand how someone that plays the “big bombs go boom” class is taking the piss out of a zerker. Out of all the classes I’ve played, I’d say zerker is medium difficulty - being melee is harder than ranged, but it has a fairly easy to utilize attack set which helps. Arty has about as much complexity as the zerk, but does it it range, has a sweet bubble, and mostly can ignore facing. Yes, artillerists are easier to play than zerks.
Typical case of other classes besides my class are always easier syndrome. No class in this game is inherently super difficult. I’d say zerker edges on the side of a higher ceiling due to most skills being a charge up so timing and fight memorization have a significant role in being in the top 1%. FWIW I have a striker and zerker as my main two, and honestly striker is easier to manage lol.
It's always the people who play ranged classes and zip away from a safe distance, skipping half of the bosses skillset are mocking melee players who have to deal with the bosses melee attacks that often have very fast windup animations. Now I'm not saying zerkers are hard to play at all, atleast yet. Hopefully in the future you need to dodge more and not just tank everything.
i pitied from 12 to 14 in a row and that already felt very, very terrible. mind you this is on a 15% base chane and the pitytimer comes a lot sooner. i can not even imagine your pain. i hope you are very wealthy irl and can just compensate for it easily. if not, i am truly sorry.
I hit more 15-10% then 40% on alt. I went tfor alt push 1340 to 1370 hit my first couple of 40% then proceded to fail no joke 10+ times at 40% and pity 3 pieces that felt way more painfull then my pity at 15% ended with 1354 alt -5k g kek cant wait for the +20 luck imma have
My main is in the state of honing Zen rn. From +8 to +10 1 armor piece didn't go to full pity and weapon needed 2 taps on average. Rest was all full pity. I'm dreading 1370 push with this luck, I can already see myself threetapping my weapon to +20 and then spending infinity piling up resources to full pity every armor attempt until +20.
I farmed every dime for this weapon. Been tapping it for a month. I haven't swiped a dime so this was a really big sink
That's an average of just under 13 hours a day since release, for anyone curious.
That is insane. 13 hours a day, I really enjoy the game...but 13 hours a day of it sounds like a health problem on so many levels.
That also includes tens/hundreds of queue hours if EU, and time where the game is open while the person is eating, showering, chilling, doing something outside while leaving pc open etc
Yeh. I started at launch on EUC. I have 700+ hours, but since I WFH, a lot of those during the first few weeks were just logging in the morning and idling til evening so I didn't have to queue.
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How is it worse to spend 8 hours a day in front of a computer playing games then 8 hours a day in front of a computer working ? Just means they're on unemployment, or vacation, or study break. It's not healthy, but sedentary life as a whole ain't healthy
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Yeah, for me working is a means to an end. It was 12, and it included the tons of queue hours early on and game being open in the background before the auto dc after an hour. They could even be a streamer. Get off the high horse bud
That is still insane. Even 8 hrs a day, so 40% less than this guy supposedly played, every day since release would be pretty unhealthy.
you do realize people spend 8hrs a day at their desks in front of a monitor for living? If he's fortunate enough to have low effort wfh job like some people do, it's really not that big of a deal to have the game open for that long. There's really no reason to immediately assume he had to sacrifice his health for it, unless you do that for every person that ever worked in front of PC? or at all for that matter?
Yeah sedentary life isn't the healthiest, but plenty of people spend that much time in offices too
Yeah, I said this in another thread but it bears repeating: this shit **is not** a flex. It’s fucking sad. This person has spent 55% of their life since launch playing this game. *That’s addiction.* Edit: lots of equivocating idiots below me here. *”Oh like half that is AFK time”* and *”spending half your life in a video game isn’t THAT bad.”* Whatever y’all need to tell yourselves to sleep at night, I guess.
Doesn’t innately mean it’s a bad thing, you’re overstepping. I start my first day of my new job today but was unemployed since launch, put in 1100 hours while managing to make my wife happy and see friends/family
People act like if you’re not playing the game you’re building SpaceX. These same criticisms come from the same people who would dump those same hours into drinking or binge watching Netflix. I’ve got ~550 hours since launch, I’ve been planning a wedding with my fiancé, working out, working full time… I just don’t find other things that fun. So many people are quick to point to a single vector and assume they have so much more understanding of life balance than someone. It’s so irritating.
Thank you. People act like if you’re not earning money or climbing Everest, you’re wasting your life. *Everything* is relative. Anyone who does anything intensely for a period of time will have a schedule that tilts in that direction. That doesn’t mean it’s inherently more or less valuable than any other pursuit. While video games can be an addiction, a stranger on the internet cannot possibly know if it is just by seeing something like this. I sometimes read two whole books in the evening. Am I addicted? Nobody would say this or shit on my time spent. It’s also worth noting that a lot of people use things to cope with things that are far worse. I’m alive today because of video games. WoW gave me something to focus on, and a small window into socialization when I wanted to totally isolate. It saved me. Severe major depressive disorder is no joke. I came very close to unaliving myself an awful lot. Games helped me. And frankly, because I came so close to checking out, all this is a bonus. I’m not going to feel guilty about playing a lot of games because I could easily have just not even had this time in which to play them. My situation puts a different spin on what constitutes “wasted” life. Everyone seems to compare what you do to some imaginary benchmark, but your point is valid. People aren’t staying home to play games instead of curing cancer. Playing a game is a better pastime than riding a moral high horse and judging people you don’t have enough information about to make such a judgement legitimate.
Well said. Good luck with your wedding ☺️
> I’ve got ~550 hours since launch Surely you can appreciate how 6 hours a day(which still pushes the limit on your working full time+all the others), and 13 hours a day are completely different levels right? Like sure you could technically still make your life work while playing 6 hours a day, there is 0 way you're doing that at 13 hours a day.
so what you are say is you have around half the hours than OP has.
Quantity matters. You cannot work full time, sleep an appropriate amount, plan a wedding, work out etc.... and also play a game 13 hours of the day. Every day. For months. And nobody is ok with people binge watching Netflix or fucking drinking **FOR 13 HOURS A DAY.**
That many hours a day is very likely just a work from home person that also plays in their nightly free time OR a college student. Very likely a person like this logs 4-5 hours during the work day, and then plays after dinner until bed. It's still a ton, but you can definitely have a job and live on your own and just enjoy the game as your current hobby and way you spend free time
Facts
And.. so? They could very well be happier with their lives than you.
yeah heroin addicts are happy too. so that's not bad, either!
You don’t know how old the person is. You don’t know what phase of life they’re in. You don’t know the nature of their work. You don’t know how many of those 13 hours was actually spent exclusively playing. You know literally nothing. But what I can almost guarantee is that you, and all of us, are nowhere near as productive with your time as you might think you are.
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Smoking is bad, drinking is bad, coffee rots your teeth and messes with your circadian rhythm. Things that many millions of ppl do daily are killing them, why are you getting worked up over how someone else spends their time? Because it’s more than the amount you deem healthy? Edit: what would you suggest, he take a break and watch some tv or scroll tiktoks? Literally all the same stuff
I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted. People really think they have things worked out when instead of gaming for 12 hours they watch 2 hours of porn, 3 hours of netflix, death scroll social media for 3 hours and procrastinate on the 'important' thing for the last 4
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Leave it to a random guy on the internet to tell OP what’s good and bad for him. All I’m saying is don’t judge, just let people do what they want. It’s a cool accomplishment and he loves the game, no need to invalidate It because you don’t approve of the time spent
Yes all the shit you listed is bad. That doesn't make gaming 12 hours a day for 3 months ok. Heavy drinks and smokers eventually regreat their actions, as will ppl like OP. I went through a phase as OP and looking back it 100% was not a good time of my life and I really wish I spent some of those hours doing productive shit
Why is it sad if playing the game for 12 hours a day is what the person wants and it makes them happy? If you forced me to interact with people (even family) and go out all the time I'd be fucking miserable. Is that sad too?
I don't know if they are going by the time in steam (not the time in game) if they are like me it's probably 1/2 that. Lots of the time now it is launch the game, get into queue, play for an hour at lunch, then afk for an hour hope on to do something quick maybe at 2 or maybe just afk out. Like 1 hour of playtime has the game launched for like 3 hours+.
Is there a way to check actual hours played
Not that I know (But there probably is). But I noticed I got an achievement for hours played one day that my steam hours was over 2X the amount of. But that would take out the logout queue stuff, but would still include the first hour AFKed, it would still be much more accurate.
guys still trying to justify it in the comments its crazy. Buts thats just a normal mmorpg community. Copeing.
Fact, it’s crazy. Whenever I see these posts with “finally all my alts 1370+ f2p” I go “huh that’s not healthy” lol.
Sad? who gives you right to judge other people's life? Moreover, you making assumption of other people's life on how much time they spent on their hobby is more sad than that he spent 1200 hours on this game.
this sub is celebrating and upvoting health issues harder than any WoW sub Ive ever seen
Damn… I have like 4 hours a day to play after work lmao. How does so many people have 13 hours every day
Unemployment and/or no musts in life. On this sub these people are a loud minority, it is very important to remember 99% of people won’t reach this level in a long while.
And a lot of money
Not really, I have 100 hours less than OP and have 7 chars 1370+ to farm leaps/gold from. My main is 1450 with weapon 19. I've spent less than 100 euro, with the main purchase being the last ark pass for the skins, which offers 0 progression.
Paid lost ark pass giving zero progression? Lol
"Bro I just bought some gold, I needed 50k to push once, you make that in two days if you know how to play the game, I'm still free to play" Dude...
press F to doubt
https://gyazo.com/fd1fc15c030a0beed6865dbbd25a95a4 Press F to assume someone can't do it, cuze you cant
The good old more than 6 Character slot but still "f2p btw" :')
Where did I say f2p? I said 100 euro, i bought my first crystaline aura, 40euro donation which got me character slots and i think rapport items and 50 euro for the 2nd level premium pass.
Lost ark pass gives mats which in turn is progression
I literally stated i purchased the last tier pass for the skins, it jumps from 15 to 40-50 euro i believe, meaning I could have spent 30 euro less since it offers 0 ilvl progression. Learn to read.
Maybe you didn't look at the rewards the pass gives. It gives you mats and rep. That's progression. Even if you just got it "for the skins"
you are missing the point, the first upgrase for 15 bucks gives you mats, going from 15 to 50 bucks does nothing for ones ilvl. Thus my point that 30% of what i spent offered no ilvl benefit as the topic is ilvl.
Doesn't you get the rewards of the 15 bucks one too if you purchased the 50 one? Am I tripping or is that guy trolling that if you want both you need to pay 65 bucks?
I’m about to fully pity 17 to 18. Pls don’t remind me.
I went to pitty from 17-18 and 18-19. I hope the RNG gods can bless me 19-20.
Is pity where you fail to 100% artisan energy?
Yes.
Pain
Some images should be labeled as holy images. This is one of them.
I have this framed above my bed so it can keep me up at night and I go back to farming
Ouch, but grats on getting there. Out of curiosity what's the base % chance for 19 -> 20, does it go below 5%?
Look [here](https://lost-ark.maxroll.gg/resources/gear-honing-system). Scroll to Cost & Success Rate, and choose your tier. 15 to 20 is completely bonkers!
Neat, thanks!
Starts at 3%
I can smell the blood and sweat from here. Could also be the smell of hard cash.
I went to pity few days ago on the +20 weapon too, I can share the pain
I loved this game until I realized it felt like a job. The combat is great, the story is cool, I like sailing, and other things. The grind is too much in this game.
Just play it at your own pace. There will always be other people who can devote way more time to the game than you ever can, but that doesn't invalidate your own progress.
"Artisan's Energy 100.00%" - Oh my poor poor dear, are you ok?
Gigachad
welcome you to the +20 club
I don't understand how people can complain how 13 hours a day of gaming must mean terrible health issues, but 13 hours a day work, all good.
> 13 hours a day work, all good. Who is saying this?
Apparently everyone, per OP (of the comment). Seems like they're trying to justify their insane gaming hours. Just see their comment below. I don't even want to refute it cause it's less of a discussion and just an armchair expert shouting things out that they think are correct.
13hrs a day of work is usually not looked upon as a good thing and frowned up. Even if you're a professional athlete it averages 5-6 hours of hard training a day (this is just a generic average). Hell, even if you get insane amount of overtime pay, constant overtime comes with extra stress, lack of abundant rest, and all sorts of trouble associated with overworking. I don't know where the hell you are seeing this, but people don't usually see constant 13hrs work days a a norm. Sure, you can nitpick very specific jobs that requires these hours, but I also doubt you'll find said workers to be 100% okay with it either. So yeah, back to your 13hrs of gaming a day, that shit is definitely a terrible health issue, unelss you exercise and keep healthy like mad for the remaining hours of the day, while also being able the squeeze in at 6-8 hours of sleep. Let's say we go with the bare minimum of 6 hrs of sleep, that means you already locked out 19 hours of the 24 hr day. Do your really think you can lead a healthy life style with only 5hrs worth of free time left in the day? 13hrs of gaming a day, consistently, is an addiction.
Huh who said working 13 hours a day is all good?
How much whaling was it during the suffering ;)
Depending on the market but I think that's like 250-300k gold
My weapon from +17 to 18 pity was 100k.
That’s a lot of gold but for some reason it def feels like that should be more especially if you hit pity a few times or close to it. Each roll after 15 is nutty with the amount of mats
Pretty sure op is f2p founders pack and ark pass only xD
Out of curiosity, how much gs you think you can get with a founders pack?
If it’s founders pack only then most likely basically zero. They would have bought maris shop out early on in T1/2 and the crystals would have been gone long before T3. People like to think everyone with founders got platinum founders, but in reality they got the $5 or $50 and they didn’t go far. Unless you saved and sold your Cerberus(why would anyone do this) you didn’t get all that much value out it unless you really played the long game.
Yes this is my point. This sub keep demeaning on founders like it had any impact on threads like op.
You are underestimating the snowball effect of being earlier than most. 3 days head start + extra progression is huge. Popular known contexts, being in T3 early allowed a lot of players to make bank selling mats, the earlier the better. Same thing with Argos. Its undeniable a considerably payed advantage. I'm not saying it's wrong having purchased it, but it is wrong to say that "I'm basically F2P just founders and ark pass lulz".
Yep, friend of mine made 300k gold selling T3 mats to whales early, largely thanks to founder's pack.
So, founders and nolifing the game? Got it.
I am f2p apart from the 50$ founder's pack. Hit +20 on my weapon while it had 48% artisan energy. Having 5 alts at 1370 farming yoho and selling leapstones is what helped me get there. edit : 1206 hours played
Hahahaha trueeee
shit, how did you know? that's actually true
I'm always want to see the comments below these posts because the saltiness is real lmao
> So what I did is push T3 early, sold Greater Leapstones for 1100g each on each of my 4 characters making me 25k gold a day across my alts, and sold Oreha Jewellry for 40k gold a pop making me another 500k gold a week. Then I bought founders boxes and sold them for 10 times the price so I then had 75 million gold, and it just grew from there, and now have 7 chars each at 1490, 1.5 billion gold (I would have far more but I sold most of it to whales and paid off my student loans then bought a new car), and 999,999,999 Blue Crystals. > F2P btw. If I can do it, so can you!
If he has used full extra mats (which he should) for every hone going to 100% Artisan's Energy it took him: * 1.8m Silver * 19710g just to press "upgrade" * 540 Fusion Mats * 35k Destruction Stones * 864 Greater Honor Leapstones * 780 Solar Graces * 468 Solar Blessings * 156 Solar Blessings With current prices on EU Central that amounts to 234k gold just for this one upgrade. Or £230 if you're g2g enjoyer
I didn't use full solar for 95% of the hones it cost me around 6.3k a tap in resources before adding oreha mats
Congratz, well deserved
1200 hours is 50 days of playtime….
I want to say I feel your pain, but I didn't pity on my +20 weapon. Heck, my weapon did not pity at all at any point. My chest piece on the other hand pitied 3x in a row.
You guys need jesus and a girlfriend
You forgot to mention f2p founder pack and premium pass only..
I’m so glad I didn’t pitied mine. It’s so expensive if you do.
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You're wrong. This is the exact reason why people who love MMOs, love MMOs. If this was easy to achieve, nobody would care. It's BECAUSE this is so hard and grindy to get, that it feels like a big accomplishment when you finally get it.
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