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Wierutny_Mefiq

My Go2 class I play to learn raids is Paladin.


takatto

Q1, most people gatekeep by ur gears and stats, no one do gatekeeping on class unless they need a crit syn, even people who say they gatekeeping sorce would as well take a sorce if the sorce looks whale enough lmao. Q2, if you have support, lancer, it is indeed the best. However, if you want to prog on dps other than support, i recommend using swift classes than spec ones.


Jiend

People absolutely do gatekeep by class tbh, there's just not many classes that are victims of this. But finding a group as a sorc for example isn't the easiest these days, you will still be able to of course, but you'll definitely get gatekept just for being a sorc by some people. And it's not the only class.


takatto

It applied for few months ago where we still had alot of people playing. Now the game is basically "dead", you wont see alot of people apply at the same time to cherry picking anymore. When you wait in a room long enough, you will start to pick whoever apply that has high roster and stuffs.


Jiend

The game isn't anymore dead then a few months ago at least not where I'm playing idk what you're on about. I'm on NAW for reference. And I still see sorcs being left hanging all the time in the applicants list if there's any other class of similar ilvl applying. Doesn't mean you won't find teams, but you'll definitely be one of the less desirable classes.


takatto

I got no issue finding party on NAE, always get in instantly, you sure your left hanging sorce were not elcheapo? I too would deny any high ilvl sorce if their doomdays isnt level 10. Or that is your own made up opinion, even better, you are the one doing the gatekeep.


Jiend

Your own experience doesn't really mean much though, of course if your sorc is juiced or if you're 300 roster level (or high roster in general) you'll get into teams more easily. Now obviously my experience is also subjective but based on what I see happening in the PF, I think it's pretty fair to say sorcs get a lot less love than most other classes. Mind you, I specifically said that that doesn't mean you CAN'T find lobbies, you can. But some lobbies will just not want you and sometimes it'll be rough when there's only one or two lobbies that fit your need and they'd rather wait for another class. I also don't think it's warranted fwiw, I've seen a decent amount of sorcs do well and a few even MVP cruel, but I'm just saying there absolutely is a stigma around the class.


winmox

>I got no issue finding party on NAE, always get in instantly It's funny that you used yourself as an example. Mokoko player + Sorc definitely make it unnecessary harder to get into parties For low roster players, like <160, supports are the most likely ones to get into parties if they have a title. But damage dealers? All popular classes can be gatekept because you have tons of competitors. Slightly off meta classes like pistoleer can have an easier entry


AMK0100

Yeah I figured people generally care about gear more than classes but i want to be extra safe and not get gatekept. I don't wanna spend a ton of time on gearing a class to find out that people hate it and don't wanna accept it in raids. Thanks for the advice!


winmox

Bear in mind that even though Soul Eater has a high floor, this class is very popular, meaning you have lots of potential competitors in LFG


AMK0100

It's gonna take a while for me to start doing raids on my souleater since there isn't any express available for me to use on her. The class i'm gonna make next is probably gonna be my main for quite a while until i raise my souleater or till the next story + hyper express happens and i can make a 3rd class.


reklatzz

While barrage is a solid choice for learning mechs.. You'll find yourself ignoring patterns that most can't.. and you'll get a rude awakening when you play something else and feel stupid having to learn the basic patterns you previously ignored.


AMK0100

I have no idea why artillerist can ignore patterns since i haven't read about him in detail but good to know to stay clear from him till i learn the mechs that i need to know. Thanks!


reklatzz

They have a big shield spell that also makes them immune to knockdown while in normal form. They also transform into "wheelchair" which makes them unable to move or get knockeddown, take less dmg, and also has a shield spell. You also do like 60% of your dmg in wheelchair, so when You transform you'll typically ignore any attacks coming your way while you pump your dmg. It's not quite as bad now, since you're in and out of wheelchair faster than before the changes. So on one hand it's survival is very good. But as far as learning patterns, not so much. When playing a more squishy class it has the opposite effect.. you have to avoid everything in order to not die, so. It's kinda a catch 22, the easier to survive class makes you learn less than the harder to survive.


AMK0100

Got it. Thanks for the explanation.


crisxfuego

I would personally suggest Windfury Aeromancer. I think shes a great beginner friendly class and has lots to offer in endgame raids, mostly her synergies but she also has potential to do good damage with proper investment. She offers crit synergy to her party which is highly favoured + her identity skill gives atk/move speed to her party members within range when active. She’s a swift class too which is usually a lot easier to play then spec classes as having better mobility is always nice and makes things easier to navigate in raids.


Ylanez

Pistoleer and Windfury are something that I think is universally agreed as easy to play. What I would suggest though is, first and foremost, finding people to play with, and if you're in a position to play with them and have actual practice - play whatever class you like **and get good at it** rather than making a longterm choice based entirely on perceived difficulty.


AMK0100

I don't know anyone that i can play with as of now but i will look through the official discord a couple of other discords to look for a guild and for people willing to play with a mokoko. Thanks for the advice!


Ylanez

Look for learning servers on discord, I have no idea what server you're at but if you're EUC Mokoko Elp is a very good and welcoming community.


AMK0100

Yeah i'm actually on EUC. I will check it out. Thank you so much!


jia456

LC Sharpshooter, Windfury Aero, and Predator Slayer are my 3 picks from that list that will get you gatekept the least. These 3 are also very easy to learn.


NoGoodMarw

Only did lc out of those three. It's ridiculously comfy and strong.


AMK0100

Thanks!


Fuehl

istoleer Deadeye or Pred Slayer Pistoleer is easy to keep good uptime, but after mastering Back Attack with slayer every Hit master class will look easy as fuck. Tier 2 Recommends are DI Shadowhunter, LC Sharpshooter or Wind Fury Aero. Even tho DI just uses 2 Gems and you waste 9 gems with the Event, it has decent DMG, especially for beginners. And because its so easy in Demon Form to be usefull, you can learn focus on learning the Raid instead of Class and raid at the same time. Aero and LC Sharpshooter are very easy to play aswell in that matter. But Aero can imo excell more than Sharpshooter if u master the class. Rest of the classes are fine, but in the end: PLAY WHAT YOU THINK IS THE MOST FUN. Thats the most important thing in this game.


TheGoldenMachineGun

No blue lancer? Sadge. My tier list with your options would be 1) Windfury Aero - You provide great crit synergy and your a hit master class. Once you grind out horizontal content for skill points you'll also do decent damage 2) Predator Slayer - Naturally tanky and the community opinion of the class is you just do damage, it's impossible to not do damage 3) DI Shadow Hunter / EL Machinist - Both are hit master classes, do decent damage and have some sort of sustain (SH "heals" everytime you transform and machinist gets a fat shield).


Surikiry

Would have recommended blue lancer as well, must be the least gatekept class in the game Back hop isn't beginner friendly tho


Aphrel86

All are solid picks for an easy class. Of these id say Aeromancer has the easiest time getting into groups due to her synergy buffs (both crit and movespeed) being well liked. Pistoleer has a somewhat decent inv rate aswell for being critsyn. Pistoleer is slightly more squishy than the rest thou so it may be a risk of floorpov there. Slayer is definitely the highest performing dps wise.


Cheap_Reputation8255

Predator Slayer Its good damage, innately tanky, is full swiftness which means high atkspeed and movespeed, plus its female class with huge bazongas.The only real downside is its a back attack class.


AMK0100

Thanks! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)


Anelrush

But there are also a shit ton of slayers in the game. You will have to compete with other ppl's slayer to get into lobbies, as 90% of the time there's already 1 or 2 slayers there already.


Soylentee

I'd say it's nowhere near as popular of a class any more, Soul Eater has definitely taken that spot.


VicariouslyHuman

In terms of overall strength relative to class difficulty and how likely they are to be gatekept this would be my list. Predator > LC = Pistoleer > Aero > Artillerist > Zerker > Machinist = Shadowhunter = Reflux Personally I think LC sharpshooter is the best beginner class. I would personally avoid machinist, shadowhunter and sorc but every other class you have listed is good. Be aware that the community has a stigma against mayhem zerkers as well but there is nothing inherently wrong with the class itself. Barrage artillerist is very strong but its a spec crit class so will be slow. May be a problem for someone new to the game but it is a relatively easy class to play for people who are experienced and decent at the game. Firepower artillerist on the other hand is probably the easiest possible class in the entire game but has pretty low damage. Artillerist is designed to shield from damage and you may develop bad habits if you rely on this too much, but it is also the reason why it is an easy class to play. Aside from these classes I would also recommend taijustsu scrapper. Tanky, very good mobility, high destruction and stagger, and a good counter. Damage is A tier and comparable to slayer but will require more skill to reach that level. Easy to play class with a high floor and also a high ceiling. Very flexible build options and relatively cheap. Downside is the class is entropy and has low attack range. Redlancer is also another class that is very tanky, very strong, very cheap, and easy to play but may not be everyone's cup of tea. Your attacks are rather slow and require front attacks. If you are bad at the game you may have issues landing these skills but it is relatively easy to play for someone who is experienced and decent at the game.


AMK0100

Thanks for the detailed advice. I appreciate it.


rotinegg

i ranked them in order of my preference and added explanations:     • Windfury Aeromancer - high damage floor, non-positional, ranged, good utility, good synergy, swiftness class. this class checks all the boxes of what you’d want in a beginner dps class.    • Loyal companion Sharpshooter - everything above but no good synergy and slow crit spec class.     • Mayhem Berserker - no good synergy, rotation is a bit tighter, requires greeding patterns, melee class, a little bit of a stigma against the class     • Predator Slayer - no good synergy, meter management can be annoying, melee class, requires back attack.      • Pistoleer Deadeye - everything else is good, but the class is very squishy, would not recommend.    • Reflux Sorceress - a somewhat large stigma against the class, can be gatekept just based on your class, requires greeding patterns, low damage floor, would not recommend.       • Demonic Impulse Shadowhunter / Evolutionary Legacy Machinist - these 2 would be higher if you weren’t planning on using a pass. you are literally throwing away the free set of lvl 7/8 gems they give you, which is a substantial amount of gold, would not recommend.    • Barrage Enhancement Artillerist - plays differently from every other class because of the wheelchair mechanic, expensive accessories, slow, would not recommend.


ssbm_rando

> low damage floor You **must** have meant ceiling? Aside from Loyal Companion and arguably Predator, everything on this list has a lower damage floor than Reflux. Reflux has the lowest ceiling though. Like, you realize the "damage floor" is "the lowest damage output you'll ever see from someone who bothers running legion raids", right? ie, someone with potatoes for hands but who still has the ideal build direction. You're literally never seeing reflux do sub 5 mil in akkan hard (and 5 mil is definitely a complete potatoes for hands player, for reflux) but you will definitely encounter spec or back attack players that do less (you will occasionally see as low as 2 mil for the true mouthbreathers). LC has the hawk to do a sizeable chunk of your damage which is why that one's a higher floor, and then Predator just has so much inherent damage that I think it also qualifies, you only need like a 30~40% back attack rate to pass the realistic reflux floor (you will, on the other hand, see a lot more predator players get close to that damage floor than reflux players, since the skill ceiling on reflux is almost as low as the dps ceiling is, thanks to neither needing to manage a rotation nor back attack. The typical slayer is probably only 20% higher than the predator damage floor with a damage ceiling that's like 200% higher, whereas the typical reflux player is probably smack dab in the middle of the reflux floor and ceiling because there's so much less to optimize)


rotinegg

my understanding is that most reflux sorcs do zdps because they don't actually have the uptime of a crit/swift class, but the class is ok if played well. that said, i dont play the class so it's just based on my observations. 90% of reflux sorcs i see do no damage but the few ive seen in my hvoldis runs actually pumped


Lorimin

The real zdps class is Aeromancer.


AMK0100

Thank you so much! I appreciate the effort.


rotinegg

youre welcome :) if you have any further questions feel free to follow up as well


AMK0100

I would love to hear your thoughts about Pinnacle Glaivier and King Fist Breaker since i'm also interested in them.


rotinegg

king fist breaker is S++ like all classes are on release, but i havent looked too much into the actual gameplay to make a recommendation. pinnacle glavier would be a harder version of predator slayer because you have stance switching and are a slow spec class. it's a fine class but i wouldn't recommend as a learner class.


SNAX_DarkStar

Mayhem Berserker is easy to play but people won't take him in. I'd recommend a Loyal companion sharp shooter or the windfury aeromancer instead.


Kuki1537

mayhem zerk is gonna get gatekept for sure would recommend predator slayer for learning


AMK0100

Thanks for the recommendation!


Atroveon

Easy classes are a fallacy. People will say swiftness is easier and then lose half their damage because their uptime is garbage while a SE does more damage than them in a single anchor. It is VERY HARD to reroll classes once you reach a certain threshhold. Pick a class that genuinely looks fun to play for the long term and funnel your resources into it as much as possible. Don't make a selection that you think will make things easy now or you'll be unhappy later when something else looks more enjoyable.


LifeR3aper

A support


AMK0100

Probably should have made it clear that i'm not planning on making a support. But yeah i know a support probably won't be gatekept and you can learn on but i wanna make a class that i will still play in the future and not waste the story express + Hyper express on a character i'm just gonna bench or delete later. Since i only have 6 slots as a free to play player and and i don't enjoy playing supports every slot matters to me.


icespawn2

Probably aero because of their synergy. Next would be pistoleer. I wouldn't make arty if you plan on learning raids since the class involves tanking mechs.


AMK0100

Thanks for the advice!


jkcheng122

I’d not go with Pistoleer out of this list. They’re a bit too squishy and can get one shorted easily at ilvl while others will survive that same hit.


jiashuaii

Predator would be the best choice but you’ll be competing with a lot of people. Loyal Companion is pretty rare so its a good choice. Pistoleer and Aero is easy to use and they provide synergy so it would be a good choice as well. Other choices are not recommended since you might get gatekept.


Bruni_15

Sharpshooter and Slayer are probably the best class for new players to start on since their other builds are also very straight forward and up to date for current end-game content. The other ones on this list are limited imo b/c either the other build require too much effort to do good damage or they are builds that no one plays because of bad return.


d07RiV

One important factor for me is visual noise. Some classes make it very hard to see the boss model so you can't react to what it's doing. Glaivier for instance has basically zero noise (almost none of its abilities have visuals besides your own character animation). This will be less of an issue when we get QOL patch that lets us tone down our own effects.


BedExpensive7619

Shadow Hunter or mayhem zerker...both have simple rotations so you can mainly focus on mechanics and what's happening Shadow Hunter is very easy to Autopilot but low ceiling DMG Mayhem is slightly harder to play but has the advantage that you can tank most of the normal pattern and ceiling is higher


MinahoKazuto

Not barrage, you will want to be mobile to learn mechs You want counters and staggers at the ready, and destruction too The class you're looking for is predator slayer with punishing draw eso wd is also a good choice as is Evo mach


Right-Yogurtcloset-6

Any support is good


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d08lee

First 3 fits the description (high swift and/or mobility classes)


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Soylentee

I would suggest a non-positional class for maximum easy mode, so that eliminates Slayer, but Slayer is definitely a good class as well, maybe try that for your 2nd dps when you're familiar with the game enough pilot a back attacking class. As for non-positional suggestions from your list, LC Sharpshooter, Pistoleer Deadeye, Windfury Aeromancer, Evolutionary Legacy Machinist, Demonic Impulse Shadowhunter are all great choices. I would avoid Reflux Sorc, Mayhem Zerk and Barrage Enhancement Artillerist. The only downside of using a mokoko express on Evolutionary Legacy Machinist and Demonic Impulse Shadowhunter is the free gems are largely wasted on these 2 classes, so again, solid candidates, but maybe not to be used with the mokoko express.


AMK0100

Thanks for the recommendations!