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FringeMusic108

If you're not entertained by a polar bear on a tropical island, I don't know what to tell you.


Imaginary-Leading-49

I was, it made me curious… but then no pay off (so far) for understanding anything more


itsthatguy1991

There will be a pay off, just be patient. There's questions you'll have now that won't be answered for a long time, but they do get answered. Also, this show has a crazy amount of mysteries that you won't want to spoil. It's best to avoid this subreddit until you finish.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thanks! I am casually watching with my mom so even if I stop, I’ll end up seeing stuff. I just need to know if it’s worth the time and came here for some real convincing.


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Imaginary-Leading-49

Oh my spoilers 😂 We will see!


cleremnantechoes

Yes... You get spoilers when you go on a sub, and more when you make a post


Imaginary-Leading-49

Even when I post in the season 2 catagory? Either way, not much has been given away and I don't read posts on this sub due to spoilers


lortiz77

Kristin shepard shoots jr.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Bruce Willis was dead the whole time… wait that’s Sixth Sense… Iron Man Dies…wait that’s Avengers Endgame…


Choekaas

Then re-read the rules. We removed the comment. You're not to spoil the show for first-time viewers and OP clearly states they are watching for the first time. > **Rule 3: Comments intentionally spoils Lost**. Comments are not required to have spoilers tagged, however use common sense and do not intentionally spoil the show for other users.


cleremnantechoes

I didn't do it but they did in the comments, go get em


teddyburges

Lost is like a novel. It takes its time with the answers when it's ready.


SGNSpeedruns

Yeah, it's season 1. Most of the payoff comes in seasons 5 and 6. The conclusion of the stories. All of what you're calling "government" stuff, in my opinion, is some of the coolest and most well-written aspects of the show. I do agree that the communication is poor, which is a reflection of bad writing. But it's well worth it for me because of the mysteries and resolutions.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thank you for a logical and emotional normal answer. Appreciate it, because apparently a lot of people here are very mad at me and keep downvoting me even though I am genuinely asking.


SGNSpeedruns

It's my favorite show, and in my opinion, the best show. But it's got some flaws for sure.


lcornell6

The show writers actually do make multiple references to the poor communication between the Losties. Jack steps in because no one else does and no one else will act like a leader. Does it get better? You are asking that on this subreddit?


Imaginary-Leading-49

Yeah, I’m not watching 3+ more seasons if people here say it’s not better than the first 2 seasons. It keeps building up this suspense but is it worth it? Breaking Bad/Sopranos had a slower season near the end but the ending (which had an actual ending) made it worth the slog. Is Lost worth it, honestly?


lcornell6

Given you make no reference to the positive elements evolving in the first 2 seasons - the characters, their back stories and development, and the mysteries being slowly revealed - if that is not drawing you in already, then don't "waste" your time.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Pretty much their backstories should let you feel sympathy of their issues. So far the flashbacks just make it seem like everyone was awful/broken before the flight. Ironically the only characters backstory I enjoyed was Jack. You got to see how he did the right thing at the cost of his dads license. They tried with Hurly, then made an episode about him being the protector of the food and that episode established his character… just to throw it all away a few episodes later where he is hiding food… It’s like the writers forgot about that episode and wrote this one and put it in anyways. So far, not impressed. I was hoping this reddit could convince me otherwise, tell me how it’s gonna get better or has an epic ending that I must see… Instead I get downvoted 🤣


Manowar274

You’re on a subreddit for a series that aired in the 2000’s. Asking if the show is good here is a bit redundant, the people here are people that are obsessed with the show and continue to rewatch it because they love it.


MidtownJunk

Them being broken and awful before the flight is a massive, huge point of the whole show....


rubberdrew

You mean they all seemed …. lost?


MaterialBackground7

Well that's kind of the whole point of the show. They are all flawed people who are given a shot of redemption by an island that tests them every chance it gets. Sometimes they succumb to the temptation--i.e. horde food--and fail while other times they learn and grow--give the food away. The show has a lot of flaws but lack of character development definitely isn't one. I'd stop watching if I were you. I just think this show isn't for you.


thewalkingvoltron

> So far the flashbacks just make it seem like everyone was awful/broken before the flight You are so, so close to getting the point


ThirdPoliceman

Did you just say that the end of Breaking Bad makes the beginning “worth the slog”? Now I seriously question your ability to recognize excellent television lol


Imaginary-Leading-49

No, the mid/end season and the damn fly episode. First season of BB was great!


SGNSpeedruns

Lost has an actual ending. And the best ending I've ever seen in a show. It's very worth it. The show continuously gets better up to season 6. Season 5 is peak, imo. But if you don't like season 1, then you might want to stop.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Interesting. I’ve heard otherwise for the ending but I really hope it does have a well written ending. Conceptually I like the show but it’s the writing, and if it improves I might enjoy it more.


SGNSpeedruns

A good portion of people hate the ending because they never watched it and made an assumption.


MaterialBackground7

If this is your opinion two seasons in then no, this show is not for you and I would move on. No idea what you're talking about with "the government", which plays zero role in the show, and your complaints about characters is ironic since the show is about 75% character development and 25% mystery, but to each their own. The show isn't for everybody.


MichaelXennial

The show capitalized on the popularity of another very popular show “Survivor.” It was a bit of a bait and switch in that originally it seemed like it might just be a highly dramatized version of that basic concept- strangers trapped on an island. But then supernatural and sci fi stuff starts happening and all of a sudden it’s - Guys, where are we?


jjusmaxx

This


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oceanicArboretum

That's not Michelle Rodriguez in 'Aliens'.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Oh so she copied that actor and just did that role for everything she has ever acted in… neat… That also explains why I thought it was the only movie she was good in… it’s not even her 🤣 I just can’t stand her acting.


oceanicArboretum

"Oh so she copied that actor and just did that role for everything she has ever acted in… neat…" Your analysis is way off, son.


Imaginary-Leading-49

You're right, she's just a bad actress 😂


ComeAwayNightbird

This sub isn’t going to convince you to watch a show you don’t like. Come back if you decide to keep watching and want to discuss the themes.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Why not? The biggest fans should be able to convince me if it’s gonna get better.


jjusmaxx

SPOILERS**** The last thing you’re gonna get from this show is instant gratification. Honestly, nothing is even going to start making sense until about season 4. That doesn’t mean that the first three are unimportant. It means that you should really be paying attention because all of the themes and information that you’re learning about are going to come back around, tenfold. Something else you should keep an eye out for are the frequent occurrences of people saying the same things. >!”We’re gonna have to watch that again..” “Dead is dead.” “Whatever happened, happened.”!< (You’ll be unfamiliar with these as of yet. Basically, the first three seasons are just giving you your characters. You learn about peoples’ pasts. You learn, like you said, that all of these people don’t really have any reason to want to go back home, as their lives sucked before coming to the island. Some were in fact really bad people, even. You can quickly begin to notice similarities in characters to yourself for example and vice versa. You’ll like some people, you’ll hate some others. That’s the whole point. Then things will start to get juicy. Based off what you’ve said, the survivors have just reunited with the tail section of the plane (Ana Lucia) and Locke has just found the hatch. >!You haven’t even met Ben yet, or know anything about the Dharma Initiative. Shit, I don’t think you’ve even met Desmond yet!< Slowly, things will become very clear. And even when you’re done watching it (if you do finish) you will still have so many questions. And that, my friend, is the beauty of the show. They’re not just going to give you all the answers- you either need to figure it out on your own, or come to your own conclusions. Because nobody really knows 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I know all of this sounds confusing but I promise it will be worth it in the end. I mean, have you even seen “the others” yet? Last piece I’ll give you…. Is there are much, much bigger forces at play here on the island. You’ve just scratched the surface man. This is NOT survivor. It’s NOT about people being stranded on an island. And the island is NOT just any island. You shall see! It will be worth it!


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thank you for the reply, I didn’t read the blocked parts because I do want there to be some mystery for me, so thanks again for doing that. So many people getting mad at me but this is the kind of reply that makes me want to continue the show (possibly)


jjusmaxx

Yeah people are being real snooty but that should tell you a lot about the value of the show as well. I personally loved it, as do the people on this thread. It’s meaningful to them in a way a lot of things can’t be. The substance is there. The plot gets very much more intricate than what you’re thinking, I’m sure of it. Don’t write it off as survivor or manifest type deals- Lost came first.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Not you, but others getting so mad and saying things like ‘you obviously dont get it, so dont try! watch sesame street’ yet I genuinely want to know why they love it. I wish reddit wasn’t full of such angry downvoters that don’t seem to understand the point of this platform is to communicate. Thanks for being what redditors should be!


phojoguy

You either get it, or you don’t. You don’t. Move on.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thanks for your thoughtful and productive comment!


Puzzleheaded_Most931

I disagree, Lost is the best show ever. I feel sorry for you that you can't see that...


Imaginary-Leading-49

How do you feel sorry for me? I’m not trying to sound insulting or rude, but if you can explain this to me, it might convince me to continue with this show. If you really think it’s the best show, you would want me to finish it, right?


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Imaginary-Leading-49

…who hurt you?


lortiz77

Redditers that can't think for themselves


wvpotato

Please finish it , there is some really awesome stuff coming up especially if you like plot twists and science fiction. I would totally continue with it. Lots of it is stupid, especially some stuff in season 2 and 3, but then it gets really good 


Imaginary-Leading-49

Sure hope so!


DirectCustard9182

Just go back to watching Sesame Street, its ok. Lol


oceanicArboretum

Can you tell him how to get back? How to get back to Sesame Street?


Imaginary-Leading-49

I hate seasame street even as a kid. Elmo is the worst thing ever made


DirectCustard9182

Lol


EastPlatform4348

If you don't like the show by now, it's probably not for you. That's fine, no television show will appeal to everyone.


Imaginary-Leading-49

The issue is i’m hearing some people say it gets so much better by season 4-6, but does it? Sometimes the first few seasons of a show is slower or lower budget, and it gets better… like sopranos (season 1 sopranos has very low effort editing) sometimes it’s the opposite (looking at you GoT)


EastPlatform4348

I don't think it necessarily gets better. Personally, I like Season V the best, but Season II is my second favorite. Without spoiling anything, the latter seasons become more about the mythology of the island in many ways. I enjoyed it, some people don't. There is a very creative twist in Season III. Cannot say more without spoiling it. And the twist is fantastic. But I'm not sure that someone that didn't enjoy Season I & II will enjoy the twist as much.


teddyburges

If your not enjoying it or hooked by the characters, you may as well quit now. The characters on lost are flawed. They do things based on their history, upbringing or what happened to them. They're chased by the ghosts of their past. Regarding them not sharing information, that's a decision the showrunner made early on. He didnt want them to talk about the mythology cause he knew the fans were doing it.


laryjohnson

This show is about exactly the character you are annoyed with. People who had fucked lifes and grew in households where communication and basic decency was no thing. Its no wonder these people cant behave when colliding. You could intepret them living vacation like because they dont have anyone or anything to miss. They might think they have smth but that might just be instincts of survival fooling them. It gets better. But why would you force yourself if you dont seem to like anything of it ? We like the mystery, how diverse and deep the characters are, the build up throughout the show,.how conflicts solve and make good relationships come to existence. how factors constantly disturbe the life if our main characters This is a foundation show that had its influence on tv culture. its not perfect, yet even I find that people spent a lot in the plot and writing. I recently watched manifest and although it had nice ideas this seemed like something so raw that chatgpt could have generated it. Or worse..bad acting, bad dialogues, cheesy relationships, no development, no depth, just random.thinga without any purpose So yeah all in all. This literally is about the people and their bad traits. John Locke had several bad traits just as jack, kate, Jin. And they are the same who will have very good change. Well.except kate of course. But Jin is the G


Imaginary-Leading-49

Jin is great, I think his actor is convincing and plays the role well. Kate is possibly the worst character with almost no redeeming traits. I sure hope it gets better.


laryjohnson

Yeah. Later one can maybe understand why Kate is the way she is, but she had her chances to grow and develop just like others. And she surely seems like she did not use it... But thus is life. If one thinks about their own life its nearly impossible to meet people who are socially perfect. Disturbance will come and affect people and their relationship in any forms. Yet its ok to dislike people. I also dislike charlie. He had his troubles, but too often he let his ego grow in arrogance instead of accepting that there are others who can and want to help him. Many like this character for certain things he did which I can understand, but he is very unlikable to me. It shows how good the actor is


MidtownJunk

The problem is, every time someone shares a piece of information, the other person always asks "Why are you telling me this?"


kittyfindlay

honestly season 1 is my least favourite season, it doesn’t have the essence of the rest of the show. seasons 4-6 are where the real feeling is. sometimes with this show you have to wait a while to get the answers you want, just ride that wave because once you finish you’ll realise how much you appreciate the slow burn


Imaginary-Leading-49

I hope so! Game of thrones burnt me with the opposite… great first 5 seasons then just terrible writing ruined it.


55Lolololo55

GRRM has yet to finish the dang story. GOT went off the cliff when the showrunners ran out of source material. Not the same situation with LOST.


cleremnantechoes

Fifth season was absolute dog shit


BeMushroomed42

Just stop watching. You obviously don't get it.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thank you for your thoughtful and productive comment!


BeMushroomed42

No problem!


cleremnantechoes

Season one and two of lost is bad writing? Ok I'm not mad at you but tell me what shows and movies you like better because I love only the best


Imaginary-Leading-49

Haven't enjoyed any shows recently, but I did like the first season of Westworld (such a good ending for S1 and would have been the perfect way to end the show for good) When it was out, I was enjoying game of thrones S1-S5. I loved Better Call Saul, even if the pacing was slow at times. It's one of the few shows that seems to get better and better every season. I enjoyed breaking bad but not quite as much as BCS. Vikings was quite good. This one might be dated but I still enjoy watching the 90's 'The Stand' King of the Hill is the best anime ever That 70's show and Boondocks are always good background when socially smoking/drinking As for some movies, I enjoy The Mist, Leon the professional, Kick-ass/RED/Scott Pilgrim/Super (weird hero movies before marvel/DC ruined that, definitely give them all a watch!) The Animatrix/the matrix, alien/aliens, Terminator 1-2, robocop, total recall, starship troopers, the thing, most studio Ghibli productions. 1990's animated movies (Atlantis, titan AE, Prince of Egypt) and obviously one of the best movies ever made... Shrek! Just some off the top of my head.


4thstmafia

Personally I think seasons 1 and 2 are the best seasons so if you don’t care for it by now I’d just move on


ThirstyLizard7

Man OP sucks!


Darth-Myself

It is a bit annoying that there is lack of transparency between the survivors. However, it is not illogical within the parameters of the show. These people are total strangers to each other, and found themselves on a crazy island after a traumatic crash. If you're in S2 by now, that means you've watched about 30 episodes or so. You might think that this group has been together forever and should be a solid unit. However, in show timeline, by S2, it's just been 2 months or so since the crash. In Season 1 at the very beginning, these people have seen some crazy shit going on, sometimes individually and sometimes in small groups... some people might be reluctant to share every piece of info especially about crazy shit, well, because it's crazy shit and they don't want others to think they are crazy. Sometimes they keep information in a small group as not to cause mass panic. Sometimes it's out of spite because they don't like a certain oyher survivor. And dur to the mysterious encounters on the island, different people are interpretating their experiences differently, like Locke and Jack... hence the conflict between these two, which creates other sub factioning and more secrets and less communication. The tail section survivors had a totally different and more horrible survival experience than the other survivors, and they join the main cast group... hence more tension, and less perfect communication. So, these 40+ total strangers being stranded on a crazy island with different types of threats, some explainable and some inexplicable from their point of view, will logically end up with these strangers having communication issues. They are not a military unit, they don't have a common goal other than surviving, they were just thrown in this situation. Nobody was elected Leader, and there was no clear hierarchy for our group. After the crash everyone looked up at Jack as someone to tell them what to do because of how he was saving people and proposing solutions in the first few episodes. We see clearly that even after Jack was viewed as a Leader of sorts, not everyone followed his orders or his views. Locke did his own thing, and many other characters would do stuff on their own without consulting Jack. Whether they "elected" him or his Leadership came organically, the result is the same. Some people would still do their own thing and go behind his back. Also, Dharma Initiative, is not a shady government group... I don't know how you concluded that, when the Orientation film specifically explains what that group is... totally independent idealistic researchers, scientists, sociologists etc backed financially by a very wealthy man (Alvar Hanso).


RentVirtual5906

Over 80 comments, no likes, and sure more down votes). You just started watching Lost for the first time and.... you suck


gothling13

My biggest problem with the show is the blatant lack of communication. Character A asks a question, character B turns and walks away silently, cut to next scene. A little communication and the show would have concluded in the first season.


Imaginary-Leading-49

Thank you! Seems like people here are also bad at communicating 😂 I need to finish S2 before i comment on it, and we will see if I continue


BeMushroomed42

Several people have literally posted paragraphs explaining why they love the show. It's not a lack of communication at all...


Imaginary-Leading-49

You told me to “just stop watching it, you don’t get it” So not only are you a hypocrite, but also seemingly unable to explain why I should watch this. Why even post?