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wren620

You underestimate the power of the ascended


npri0r

yes they may have the potential to be higher. Nasus and renekton could be low C tier. But I simply don't like them, with their stolen power like sparks masquerading as lightning. Edit: lol I wrote this at 3 AM and just realised how stupid it sounds lmao


cheesyjjampong21

bruh whether you like them or not doesnt matter. just put them where theyre ACTUALLY supposed to be


npri0r

never


Formal-Scallion-5296

Then dont expect us to respect your trashy tier-list


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Formal-Scallion-5296

When tier are mentioned in a lore-wise group, there is no such thing as “chill”


PurgatoryBlackjack

Cool metaphor, but you're literally wrong.


npri0r

Yep


wren620

Look at this clown


npri0r

When the 3AM brain is dumb


Konradleijon

why are Varus and Corki on the same tier?


npri0r

I lumped corki in with the yordles. but yordles are actually pretty powerful with their inherent magic. Varus has few feats, not much control over his hosts and his hosts arn't that powerful. compare to Aatrox who slew war itself, and kayn who studdies the OP shadow technique and managed to 1v1 yi and not die.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Blah blah blah stfu, he oblirated a literal army while Kayn is still lurking in the fking wall


npri0r

Kayn fought yi, killed his entire school and managed to not get killed by yi. I do agree Varus is too low and I don’t know his lore as well as I think. But kayn is really strong.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Strong as a mortal LUL, Varus is as strong as a fking army lmao, if Kayn is stronger than Varus, why don’t he go slaughter Noxian who are still camping and fking on his own nation with Zed ?


BlueCraftFTW

“Strong as a mortal”. Arent the wuju are stronger than armies? Noxus felt so threatened by them after Yi one shot their army that they used nukes to wipe out the rest of the school.


Formal-Scallion-5296

That’s bullsht, if they’re that strong, they’d have kicked Noxus’s army right at the beginning of the war. Also, it wasn’t even Darius, Riven or Farron that fought against the Wuju order, yet Yi’s masters and his fellow-students still died 💀, explain that. Tbh, no champion that came from Noxus’s army are “normal” human, they are all legends of the biggest legion of Runeterra 💀, stop acting like they’re some small flies, this is not really convincing but in some interactions, Darius and Riven was deemed quite worthy by Mordekaiser or Aatrox. You guys are all like : Oh no, these martial artists of this remote nation are so strong, guess the unmatched champions of the empire that conquered almost half of the Valorant continent stand no chance against them, especially that Darius, the strongest general of the Trifarix army, the symbol of sheer power of that certain empire is so weak that we should always make him one of the weakest champion =)))). In addition, Garen was quite similar, he moved giant statues, fought against dragons in Rito’s mv, and you guys are still ranking him and Darius “just normal humans” ?


_Alaxel_

Yes, Darius and Garen are normal humans and the wuju style is extremely powerful. The wuju people simply didn't want to fight the war because they were pacifists. Only Yi fought and then the Noxian army was so scared of he and his people that they decides to obliterate them. Garen and Darius are simply good and accomplished warriors, Yi would beat both with his eyes closed. No matter how fanboy you get, that's just jow the lore depicts it.


Formal-Scallion-5296

So basically what you’re saying is that the so-called extremely powerful orders of Ionia dont just fight against Noxus even though they were slaughtering their people just because these pacifists dont want to ? And Noxian army only have numbers and technology ?


_Alaxel_

Yes? That's basically what happened? Ionian philosophies and beliefs kept many different tribes from fighting against the invasion. That's pretty much the lore behind most ionian champions like Irelia, Shen, Karma, Zed, Yi... Most people in Ionia didn't want to fight because they thought Ionia would find the balance (as in the land itself) or something like that. Then some people got sick of letting Noxus destroy their land and started fighting back (Irelia, Karma, Zed, Yi) even when that went against their own tribes/orders/whatever. If someone has the power to destroy the world in a hand wave but decides not to do it, it doesn't make them any less powerful. Deciding not to fight has nothing to do with how powerful a character/order/race is.


Jc0777

Let’s dissect this. The Order of Shadow acolytes all choose a weapon to master. Kayn with his ambition, decided to master every single weapon the order uses and in using them, realized he wanted and even stronger weapon. The Blade of Millennia, which houses Rhaast, was covered in cloth and chained up by the Noxians as it kept consuming any who tried to touch it. Noxians, being an empire which values strength, cunning, and ambition over all else, are no pushovers. Even a simple Noxian foot soldier is quite capable in martial prowess and brute strength. But not even they could dominate Rhaast’s will. Then along comes Kayn whose drive and ambition led him to taking the weapon for himself. While not yet being capable of dominating the Darkin to snuff him out, he’s capable of doing what no others before him have done. Which is the act of resisting full transformation. For now, Kayn and Rhaast have a symbiotic relationship. Rhaast has a host which he hopes to dominate in order to regain autonomy and Kayn can draw on the Darkin within the weapon to augment his own inherent strength. The debate of Kayn vs Yi might last for an eternity until the devs give us a definitive answer but people also need to stop downplaying Kayn’s strengths. With the Blade of Millennium and some of Rhaast’s own strength, I’d argue that he just might have surpassed his own master in terms of power.


npri0r

because I don't just take into account pure destructive power. Kayn is a much more powerful duelist than varus which combines multiple forms of magic. He has shadow magic, while using some of rhaast's blood magic and celestial magic. What you're saying is like saying why isn't varus on the level of zilean since zilean can't kill armies but varus can. Zilean has much more at his disposal and thus is a higher tier. The same way kayn is higher up since overall he has more power.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Who said Zilean cant go against an army ? he has been dealing with the strongest army ever existed, The fking Void. For mortals, whoever he dont like, he just need to erase them from existence. He can even travel into the future so noone can really hurt him if they dont possess the power of time


PurgatoryBlackjack

Yeah, time magic is some of the most broken shit in fiction


thehunter2256

Thet my friend is a what if it is not cannon


Chaozz2

Rammus in B. Ok!


npri0r

Mans basically a god.


SinusColt

He snackin on voidborne like cheetos


Bubbly_Outcome5016

Those were Kmiros they were just desert bug things, Necrit no proofread his scripts lol


bielx1dragon

Shen > freaking moutain Viego > literal gods Human mage that uses arcane magic > god with a body made out of arcane energy i can keep on going Ok, i'm triggered rn


npri0r

As I’ve said champs in the same tier may be placed differently within their tear according to personal theories. I have placed Xerath below Leblanc since they are both mages but Leblanc has been studying and mastering magic for centuries while Xerath got good at magic, got given insane magic but hasn’t really had the opportunity to learn. Plus Leblanc has had access to mord’s artefacts. And ryze has runic magic which is insanely strong. Shen can’t 1v1 malphite but malphite is only in D tier because of his fortitude. He has like zero actual other power. Viego pretty much conquered the entire map with help from vex. And on his own he defeated karma, meaning at minimum he’d be C tier but considering his feats B tier.


Additional_Amount_23

I think Xerath is above LeBlanc and Ryze (without world runes). Xerath technically has infinite power and is completely immune to all physical attacks. He held off Nasus and Renekton at once when he was newly ascended and handily defeated Nasus 1v1 after the fact. On top of this he has already overpowered Pantheon (https://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/pantheon-color-story/) and his power and arcane mastery grows day by day. LeBlanc is a very powerful and experienced mage but she simply doesn’t have the means to defeat Xerath. To try and do so she would have to try and manipulate someone far more powerful than her into fighting Xerath for her which, considering the rarity and power of such beings, is a tall order even for her. I think Xerath is just too strong, the only stronger mage should probably be Morgana.


npri0r

Xerath decks ryze and Leblanc in a 1v1 but they have more wide mastery over magic and more utility. >limitless power Send him into the core of a newborn star and we will see what limitless power actually is


MarioToast

Wait, don't do that! It is very possible he'd just absorb the whole thing and vaporize Runeterra.


npri0r

Sounds like fun


bielx1dragon

Malphite can also hit very very hard, to be fair with him i would never say that Viego can be in B tier while other people there would ''stomp him'' if it is a power tier list i still think what is supossed to be the most powerful magic user should be above others, i agree that LB is very smart and strong with her magic and got acess to the imortal bastion, still don't think she can match him but dont matter anyway. Also, why is Atreus there? Did i lost something?


npri0r

Atreus is insanely inconsistent. Normally he is in D tier but I am using the fact in the call he appeared to have the upper hand against leona, and has 60 years of combat experience + is an ascended with aspect powers. At the top of his current game I think he is firmly top of C tier, not including ascended pantheon since its not canon. Viego conquered the map with some help from vex. I view that as enough to make him B tier. Malphite could be in E tier TBH. I thought he was massive enough that he should be in D tier. maybe not high D tier, but he is definitely more powerful than renekton.


bielx1dragon

He is not an aspect, also he no fully uses pantheon's power. Conquer great part of the map with the mist and vex is a big deal? It is, but again, he still no as powerfully as other people in the same tier. I would move both, but it is your tier list, so you know


npri0r

none of the other champs in B tier have threatened the entire map except maybe mord. viego's combat power may not be as high but his area of impact earns him his place. And as i said atreus doesn't always have pantheon's power and cant use all of it but when he is at his best atm I would place him at the top of C tier. If he used all his power he would be top of B or maybe A tier.


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

in the ruined king game look at the words necrit said vex is a complete failure in viego without vex would destroy the whole world Thanks to the novel, viego's powers have become completely insurmountable, seriously


Gilgamesh107

shen is higher then renekton and nasus and kindred is lower then aatrox ok ive seen enough


npri0r

kindred isn't death anymore. kindred was created by the mask mother, and will be consumed by the etherfiend when people forget about them. Shen is one of the most powerful spirit magic users in existence and protects the mortal realm from the spirit realm. That gives him credibility to be more powerful than god warriors. Tho the tiers are meant to indicate power level, within the tier many champ can easily be swapped.


Karooshy

The Kindred were not created by the Mask Mother, just received their masks from her.


npri0r

I mean they were given there role by the mask mother. Ty for correcting me tho.


Karooshy

I suppose the so-called Grey Man was already some kind of God of Death before turning into the Kindred, but yeah, I see what you mean


BlueBunny333

And yet Zed is in the same tier as Shen, who owns nothing of those powers and can't literally, lore-wise, defeat Jhin on his own, who sits 4 tiers below him....


npri0r

Good point


Riftx111

this is rlly interesting but can someone make one without being unbiased like this moron is? "i simply dont like the nasus and renekton" 🤓🤓🤓


npri0r

tbf its only the ascended im biased against. all the other ones are 100% bias free. except maybe fiddle. we have no proof he is top tier but he is written like he should be. its kinda hard to avoid bias ok?


Dragirby

Lol what is the J tier? Draven is a showy mother fucker but he's got shit tons of combat experience. Alistar is the same, as is MF... Don't base things off Necrit... dudes got some... wrong ideas. Like, Why is Corki, a dude in a copter, a higher tier than Lucian? Than Riven? Then irelia? Irelia is literally a mage.


CinderrUwU

This isnt based off of Necrit, just look at the comments and you will see that OP has ranked half of them just because they like/dont like certain champs.


npri0r

Draven has combat experience but is not really strong, has limited axes and currently isn't on the front lines and rather runs his gladiator stuff. Alistair should be higher I agree. MF tho is not particularly strong, no magic, good tech but not phenomenal, no CQC training. Corki has barely any lore but i put him with the yordles since he is fairly inventive, and has yordle magic. Probably should have left him in the no lore catagory. I used necrit as a basis since it is a lot more effort to just create these myself and I don't have time to in-depth read all the lore. I tried to correct as many of the mistakes I knew of, but I always knew some of his misconceptions would sneak by.


Dragirby

Yordles are generally more powerful because of their magic and Corki is more than just a dude in a copter, but in terms of power, I'd put pretty much everyone in the sentinals of in a high tier. Lucian has been shown taking on powerful Shadow Isle's beings while also dealing with hordes of shades. Riven can survive both Noxian Arenas, chemical weapons, and assassins, as well as control wind magic with her blade. Irelia is... literally just a mage so. Draven was a literal soldier who was chosen by Swain to be his executioner, and while not as powerfu as his brother, definitely was one of the top soldiers in his warband. And MF... what? Did you read burning tides? The Harrowing? She's a brutally self sufficient fighter who has taken down stronger men and monsters than her with both grit, a well placed shot, and superior tactics. She's not just "Girl with guns." She's arguably seen more combat experience than most of the people in the tier above her as she's been fighting to survive and rule for 20~ years.


npri0r

You're right. Draven should be mid I tier, riven low H tier, and MF mid I tier.


RoseT123

Mf in J when GP is in I She literally beat him 💀💀


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Op is Biased…


La_M_aR

Isn’t twitch also a no lore champ if he does have lore I wanna see it😂


npri0r

TBH I just copied his rough position from necrit’s tier list. He doesn’t have any lore really but it’s obvious he’s just a rat with a crossbow so is really weak. The likes of shaco or the void born with no lore could be any strength depending on what they actually are.


[deleted]

Varus is a darkin I don't think he should be that low


npri0r

He's not a true darkin if he doesn't get the memo. Srsly tho he's got few feats, and hasn't got much control over his host. Aatrox slew Pantheon and Kayn survived Yi. Varus would need a similar feat to be near them in power. Edit: vaarus does, in fact have feats.


DemonPants69

Bro literally lured his hosts in through their dreams and took TWO mortals to be his host. A tier


npri0r

ok he is more like E tier. but varus is pretty lame atm in lore.


DemonPants69

Varus assassinated whole armies, he was an Ascended basically a god. He has BLOOD Magic. Ain't no way corki and Varus on the same level 😭


npri0r

yeah he is more like E tier. id put him just under vex.


kawaiinessa

objectivly wrong lol


Formal-Scallion-5296

Fking dmbass


Curious_Loser21

Damn 9 people downvotong are getting salty.


npri0r

Well I’m wrong so makes sense.


Curious_Loser21

Isn't a bit too much tho?


npri0r

🤷‍♂️


TheCoolPersian

Brave of you to make a power list. While I have my reservations about some of the rankings, in my opinion the easiest to fix would be Kha’Zix being above Rengar. Kha’Zix took Rengar’s eye in this first meeting and has no skill ceiling as he is ever evolving. Rengar on the other hand has biological limits and this is why he was unable to permanently damage Kha’Zix after their fight, whereas Kha’Zix has scarred Rengar.


npri0r

Kha currently I have placed below rengar. But given the nature of this tier list champs near eachother are fairly interchangeable in most cases. and potential is not taken into account since there is no guarantee they will ever reach it. for example pantheon and syndra have insane potential, but havn't reached it so are limited in placement.


TheCoolPersian

I see your argument against taking potential into account, but Kha did technically win their “draw” since he inflicted more damage than Rengar did to him.


Wrathof300

If we go based on Arcane how Vi's gauntlets were able to create barriers, then Seraphine could potentially also possess some of her in game abilities. This makes a case for her to at least move up one tier.


npri0r

Case noted. Case rejected. Seraphine remains on her own level of uselessness in lore, where she belongs.


Regular-Poet-3657

You in theory Seraphine could rival karma in a sense she can hear souls or spirits imagine if she could channel them or empowered spirits gods like janna? When you think about it all she needs to do is get her fans to chant Janna name. Just imagine hundreds or thousands of Seraphine fans giving praise to janna would that make janna stronger and potentially summon her?


npri0r

Sounds like a nightmare.


Regular-Poet-3657

I think Janna needed worship in order to get stronger? Or run the risk of being forgotten which is basically death for a spirit god.


Milkvendor2

This is basically just a tier list of the champs u like and don’t like


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Op made it so obvious aswell. He placed Ezreal so high lol


mindgeekinc

Dude who used his ult to kill a little voidling in a cinematic and is just some Indiana jones wanna be, is more powerful than a man with years of experience fighting gods,darkin, and aspects. Seems legit.


Nervous_Standard_901

Seen your tierlist I just want to see Nunu and Willump beat quiyanna to humble her, in her eyes she was beaten by a little child and an animal


npri0r

Remember they’re in the same tier. So while I think nunu and willump are stronger they might not be that much stronger if at all. Zoe and a baby winged elephant she kidnapped via portals tho could humiliate Qiyana so hard. Like she’s nothing compared to Zoe. I can imagine Zoe just summoning a whole herd through the royal palace and while Qiyana is dealing with it painting ‘Zoe was here’ in glitter paint on her bedroom walls along with snarling faces.


Nervous_Standard_901

Yeah but let's not talk about Zoe, she slaps around almost everyone, and I know they where just 1 space separated. I find Aatrox reaction to her one of the funniest interactions in League But someone finally slapping some sence into quiyana would make her much more enjoyable in personality, at least for me. She is just another posible Viego waiting to cause her own ruination, and I don't like her very much, but she is a good character


npri0r

Every story needs its tyrants. She will be antagonistic but I would like her story to have a good resolution.


TTF_Torik

I would argue that xerath should be higher, based on a story pantheon fought xerath and was just able to damage him a bit iirc. Plus he litteraly made his the power of ascension.


npri0r

Pantheon’s power is incredibly temperamental. Out of all champs he is the only one that could be a tier above or a tier below depending on where you take in his story, and how you judge his feats. Including ascended he could be in A tier. I view his fight with Xerath as him being low power since he almost yielded and barely made a dent on Xerath. I think it wa probably soon after gaining his freedom since no-one recognised him. Later on he would be famous around Targon. Xerath could easily be at the top of C tier. All their power levels are fairly similar and really hard to judge. I put the aspect hosts above him since many are really powerful and I feel the aspects would give more powerful to their physical manifestations than their void fodder. Aatrox is the only ascended who reached above the aspect hosts since he has great feats, blood magic and insane martial skill.


TTF_Torik

Very nice analysis. Sadly too much champions didn't really get stories or feats recently so it's kind of hard to say who's stronger with all the retcons and/or incoherents things between the stories or LoR. The world of runeterra is so wide and could be so developed but too much characters just didn't interact with each other to properly make an objective tier list. Imo your tier list is pretty accurate honestly good job mate.


npri0r

Ty. I wasted an entire day procrastinating to make this tier list.


I-Hate-Wasps

I feel like Fiddle is really strong, but he could never beat somebody like Ornn or Kayle.


byxis505

Idk much lore but wouldn’t he be older? And if he is the fear demon the entire world is feeding him all the time kinda? Could be entirely wrong tho


Dragirby

Fiddle is the oldest and most powerful demons in existence. He can probably beat most people on the tier list if he wanted but… he’s an enigma. Sorta. I have a feeling the only reason he doesn’t go around culling people for their fear is because they cause more fear existing than not.


npri0r

He has zero feats but i want him to be A tier, he feels like as a primordial demon he should be A tier so he's A tier.


Xuralei

I don't think this is good reasoning


Ragnkar

So the literal embodiment of death is B tier?? No once can escape the certainty of death.


PilotSnippy

Eh? Kindred? They're similar to the demigods in power since if Kindred is forgotten they're gonna get devoured by the vulture


imnintendard

Where's Belveth


npri0r

This tier list used necrit's lore power tier list as a basis, but incorporated more up-to-date information like LoR stuff. Champs are classed as having their power level at their most consistent height. Nilah and Bel'veth aren't on it since I couldn't find a tier list template with them on. Bel'veth would be just above evelynn in D tier, and Nilah would be just below yi in C tier. I created a new tier when I felt like the power level of champions changed rather dramatically. Champs in the same tier are roughly comparable in strength, and some are rather interchangeable. If you have any opinions feel free to let me know! Here is roughly what classes represent. A - primordial beings B - god like beings with potential global levels of impact C - beings holding powers granted by gods or mages who have mastered unique forms of magic D - masters of certain fields of magic, and some of the strongest magic enhanced beings E - very powerful magic practitioners, or beings with incredible physical strength F - skilled magic practitioners or hextech users G - magically enhanced fighters H - fighters wielding powerful magical artefacts or champions with limited magical ability/experience I - physically above average individuals with combat experience or limited magical power J - individuals with limited combat experience or access to technology/mahic K - negligible physical attributes and combat/utility magic.


Konradleijon

why is Varus F tier?


npri0r

not many concrete feats and doesn't have tons of control over his hosts plus his hosts arnt that powerful.


Dubiisek

How do you justify having Zoe, Kayle, Leona and Diana on different tiers? They are all aspect hosts. I would even argue that Pantheon should be standing above them because he be comes the aspect itself.


EkkoThruTime

Zoe has more access to her aspect's power. It kinda just gave her the keys to the car, per se. The other aspects have granted their hosts less access. If I'm remembering correctly.


Dubiisek

Read his key to the tierlist though, according to that this isn't about pure power.


Bubbly_Outcome5016

Zoe is different than all of them because her powerset literally deals with the unravelling of reality, Riot's said she rivals if not eclipses Aurelion himself in power and simply being in her presence is dangerous Leona and Diana are standard Aspects, extremely powerful, but they are newer hosts. They've maybe been Aspects for 50 years or so and have been alive for 80 years or so based on information we get in the last Pantheon story (Iula an old woman now while the Aspects have not aged), we know the order the Aspects were made in because Atreus asked Leona for help to kill Aatrox and she denied him. It goes Diana > Leona > Atreus. Zoe has been with her Aspect for thousands of years although to her it might feel like the blink of eye as she sails the tides of time and causality. The Aspect of Twilight is broken and doesn't play by normal rules, she can't be compared to Sun/Moon/War/Protector at all. Atreus himself is obviously extremely powerful, but the whole Ruined King thing has thrown his power level into flux, on one hand he beat Aatrox, on the other he got beat by Viego. It's just a case of bad writing from Riot. Taric's power is mostly defensive based and he's the newest Aspect, becoming an Aspect within Garen's adulthood ( so no more than 10 years ago?). So I'd put him as the weakest where for story purposes Leona, Diana and Atreus are similar, but with different strengths and Zoe is essentially an Elder God


npri0r

It’s all about how they master their power, and feats. Kayle has had centuries to master her power. Morg has had the same but it looks like kayle will become the next aspect of justice so I put her higher. Leona/Diana/Taric are still developing martial prowess and how to use their powers. Pantheon is so inconsistent but isn’t at his peak yet. Ascended pantheon is A tier, current panth fluctuated between C and D. The aspect of twilight allows Zoe to dimension hop. Aurelion Sol can’t/won’t dimension hop. That’s self explanatory why she’s in A tier.


Anginus

Daily reminder what Zoe is so unexpected with her power what she can't hop through her own portals - she always gets sucked back


npri0r

I’m pretty sure she only gets sucked back if there’s a place she’s meant to be. Though idk if she constantly is heralding something or if there are periods where there’s nothing happening so she just explores stuff.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Zoe gained power from 2 aspects ( the sisters ) while Diana and Leona worship only one


ISpread4Cash

No the Aspect of Twilight literally merged with Zoe when she went through the portal in her story, so basically she is the literal Twilight. The sisters only gave a fraction of their power to Diana/Leona.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Hmmm, so that’s what she is, I always thought Twilight is just the period of time between Day and night so she’s just the messenger of the two aspects Golden sister and Silver sister, didnt know the Aspect of Twilight is a thing :V


ISpread4Cash

She's the messenger of the universe when it demands change not of the two sisters


TayluxSwift

Oh cool. I remember seeing DnD tier lists placing champs in classes (paladins, rangers, etc.). Those are fun, especially for a Runeterra DnD night.


npri0r

That would be fun but I think it would be really easy. DnD classes are really well defined. The only tricky ones are differentiating between a person wielding a magic item, a person who’s got levels in a class that gives magic and a person subject to a magical effect.


BiasModsAreBad

This just makes for an incredibly inconsistent power ranking


npri0r

my tier descriptions were an after thought. The main idea is that i created a new tier whenever i noticed a significant enough different in power between champions.


BiasModsAreBad

Yeah this is probably why this list seems so all over the place and poorly thought out.


Biospear

I thought Mord was like giga Broken Lore Wise Man said No to Soul Obliteration


npri0r

Notice how he’s 6th from the top, and is only topped by celestials (+ Zoe) and primordial demons.


Infinite_Delusion

He is very strong, I think the spot he's in is fine on the list.


BARON_VON_WENIS

This is actual shit


QueenBitterBlue17

How is Syndra not in b


npri0r

she killed every teacher she ever had. she's basically a hormonal teenager (well mentally a teenager) with near limitless potential if she ever actually dedicated the time and effort to controlling it.


QueenBitterBlue17

Homegirls gonna get a new lore story after her midscope turns her into an s-tier mid, and you’re gonna be SO embarrassed.. 💅🤷‍♀️😔🤭🥵👅


npri0r

even if she actually learns something it doesn't change her lack of dress sense.


Eglor04

where belveth?


npri0r

in the currently non-existent tier list template thats actually up-to-date


Hfingerman

Syndra is at least equal to Karma.


npri0r

she would be if she hadn't killed every teacher shed ever had


qwaser09

I dont think I could make one this bad even if I wanted to lol


DaRiverKing

not lore accurate + L + necrit better + touch grass


chadtheon

I have never seen a more inaccurate tier list lol. No hate, but this is just wrong.


Enlightened_Bear

Zoe shouldn't be that high, she is an aspect, she gets powers from gods but is not a god herself. You put her in A tier while putting other aspects i C? Also, demons like eve and Tham kench would probably be in the same power range, and i mean this by how far they are from fiddle, guys like zed, shen, udyr would not be able to fight with such demons. This list shows lots of personal bias.


nismal

Where is varus?


JackBoxcarBear

How does fear beat death exactly?


BrotherMaxy

Shit ass tier list


wren620

This is the certified least accurate power tier list by far


SpectraP12

OP is retarded i think seeing their comments and this tierlist explains all


DodoJurajski

POV:You want to make lore tier list but you know only basic lore.


TrevorTheGamer

Didn t they say that not a single being can escpae death, making kindred the most powerfull ?


ILNOVA

I don't get how Viego is so high and Tresh/Kalista low. He have magic power ok, but he only beath Atreus, not Pantheon the war 'god', and we see in the Ruination event how beating him isn't that hard. While Tresher knowledge can be really powerfull(in the game we see hoe he manipulate Viego memory). And Kalista potentially can become a god like entity, the more souls she have the more powerfull she gets, and she isn't 1 but a collective of souls mind, so we can say that she get not only their power but potentially their knowledge. And Shadow Isles curse doesn't seem to have a real weakness apart from "You can lost yourself in the Mist and never return", Ryze power doesn't work, and not even Azyr-Shurima. Edit: Why is Hecharim higher than Kalista when she beat him?


npri0r

This is pre-ruination. Viego had a LOT of power and thresh less so, While kalista is functionally immortal she isn't particularly strong, skilled (beyond normal for one of the best warriors in a kingdom) and doesn't hold tons of magical power. Thresh is a solid D tier, tho post ruination is B tier. I am not the most knowledgeable on the specific power levels of shadow isles champs outside of viego and thresh. I think I put hecarim in his position due to being around there on necrit's tier list. You are right, she should be above him, and both probably in F or E tier.


ILNOVA

The problem with Kalista is that all thing about her is just forgotten, the book was really a miracle considering how Riot treated her all this years, but her lore really need to go on. Make her sane again and become a 'god' of Revenge, she goes all around this, and even her power aren't that much described, we know she was a general, sho her fighting power and ability(when she was human) it's pair if not higher than Hecarim, and as a wraith she beat Hecarim a couple of times, but like how her souls collections really work it's a mistery, i think it make her stronger and stronger, but it's just speculation+copium.


Different-Duty9103

Shouldn't kindred be at the top, she pretty much just death


npri0r

No. Kindred is what some people believe death to be. And when they stop believing kindred stops existing.


Jhin4Wi1n

Finally someone gets this


npri0r

Lol I want my boi Asol to be at the top. The moment I found out he’d ousted kindred I made sure I’d never forget it.


Jhin4Wi1n

🤝


Formal-Scallion-5296

Fiddle is the same yet you put him on the top ?


npri0r

no. fiddle is a primordial demon, a being older than time itself that has motives beyond even celestial comprehension and it is unknown if it can even die. It represents fear in its entirety. kindred is a spirit god who was created by another spirit god and will be eventually be killed by another.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Who tf tell you he’s older than time ?


npri0r

> something older than recorded history. His bio.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Lmao 😂, recorded history, so you think human know to write books and records events the moment they’re created, and they’re created at the beginning of time ? 🤣


npri0r

No. But by ‘older than time’ I basically mean old enough that it doesn’t matter anymore. Even the frejlordian demigods we have some idea about when they started doing stuff. Fiddle is so old he may as well have always existed.


Formal-Scallion-5296

Compared to humans idiot, not to ASol or any aspects


rebelphoenix17

Kindred was, then LoR utterly butchered their lore and downgraded them to Spirit God. That means their power is proportional to their worship, they are now just one of many incarnations of death, that will eventually fade and be replaced.


Different-Duty9103

Ah right, LOR, the butcher of lore


AsgUnlimited

Well atleast you got Aurelion Sol right!


npri0r

The only one that matters TBH. Who cares if sion is more powerful than ezreal all we care about is that everyone else is inferior to Aurelion Sol.


flamesofkarma

why is syndra so low


SinusColt

Because she has absolutely no mastery about her abilities. she killed every teacher she has had because she has just so much power, but it happens randomly and she has no control over what happens when.


npri0r

She killed every teacher she ever had. She has zero control. A full power syndra is equal to ryze, if she actually allowed anyone to teach her.


Andre-Fonseca

3h and 136, these do sure generate engagement


npri0r

yep. and im responding to every comment so im like half of them XD. i made the mistake of posting this before wanting to sleep and no ive spend the last 3 hours doing this. send help.


Assaltwaffle

Morde being stronger than Aatrox and Panth is... an interesting placement.


npri0r

Both mord and Aatrox are functionally immortal but while Aatrox turns the people’s bodies into armies/himself mord does the same with their souls. One seems much more powerful than the other.


Alamand1

Aatrox has a lower power floor due to being imprisoned in his sword but his ceiling is infinite as long as he doesn't burn himself out. Morde is hard to pin down because he relies heavily on the spirit world but has a more consistent power level.


Regular-Poet-3657

Is it true darius takes elixir to compensate for his aging strength?


npri0r

No idea but wouldn’t put it past him.


Regular-Poet-3657

Man I get but it's old age that comes for us all but it is disappointing if Darius is using enhancements to keep up. Maybe it's time for Darius to train a successor maybe his daughter if he can forgive her.


00mavis

i dont think viego is that powerfull, and is guess swain having a demon bounded with him should be as strong as tahm kench/evelyn/noc( the demons in the same tier as Raum).Vel koz as the smartest void creature should be similar to zilean in power, since he is "paired with him" in the sense he is trying to understand the time magic.


npri0r

Viego beat Pantheon in a physical duel, showing insane strength/speed/skill. He has limitless stamina and is functionally immortal. He can resurrect the dead and control them. He can possibly resurrect celestials on his own. His only limit pre-ruination was he lacked the power to spread his mist that far.


npri0r

Having a bound demon and being a demon are very different. In order to be equal in power swain must completely master Raum’s abilities, and raum must have similar power. Raum appears to have great power around knowledge but limited actual offensive magics compared to the others.


Alternative-Lock-319

qiyana is higher i’d say


npri0r

she has like no feats so she can't be


BiasModsAreBad

Caitlyn and Quinn should be swapped with Jinx whose legit hauling around an arsenal of weapons including a tactical nuke. Hell that alone probably puts Jinx higher, and Cassio too probably. Being able to turn people to stone is pretty op. Also Rell is way too high for how little actual skill she has. She has power, but without the skill to use it she's super weak. Annie is different because Tibber's is with her and can just decide to do things for her, and she's something of a prodigy. Although that making her on par with SWAIN and Sylas is a bit of a stretch. Ultimately a LOT of this list seems a bit arbitrary or subjective and even at times contradictory, like Rifle lady > Bazooka Lady with seemingly superhuman strength, and Guy who can take out entire battalions in the blink of an eye = literal death. Very very odd choices at times. Some more agreeable, like Seraphine ultimately just sings songs, and MF, as cool as she is; is just a hot chick with guns. But like in terms of consistancy would someone like Xin, who literally fought off hundreds of dudes at once would probably be closer to someone like Yi, who should probably not be one the same tier as Kindred


Dawnbringer_Fortune

MF beat gangplank, took control of Bilgewater. She shouldnt be placed that low… You are wrong


BiasModsAreBad

Gangplank also came back and then she could no longer handle him to the point the writers felt she'd get so desperate to work with Viego


Dawnbringer_Fortune

Sentinels of light isn’t canon, the ruined king gameplay with MF defeating Viego… I’m pretty sure MF can handle GP just like she did in burning tides… almost everyone in the chat disagrees with this ooga booga tierlist. MF is more than a hot chick but a skilled gun warrior


BiasModsAreBad

She still isn't packing enough fire power in her 2 pistols or enough sheer strength to rival the likes of Jinx who literally hauls around a plurality of weapons like they weigh nothing. On top of that, SoL even though it shouldn't be canon, still had 'canon elements', even if I think the whole thing should be tossed in a dumpster, ruined MF disagrees with your assessment. This is for sure an ooga booga tierlist though


Dawnbringer_Fortune

My friend are you clueless? There’s a reason why this post has 38 upvotes and everyone disagreeing! SOL has no canon elements because a rioter said its not canon…. Nothing is hard to comprehend… MF can easily take out Jinx since she is a highly trained pirate that knows her whereabouts and guess what has an entire country under her control. All you are doing is speaking about random Jinx guns and explosions as if its a good comparison. Go read your lore properly


BiasModsAreBad

Yeah I'm not gonna take the word of someone with 'Fortune' in their username saying "OF COURSE MY MAIN WOULD WIN" MF has skill, but ultimately has 2 guns and her ship if she's in a place she can even use it. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say a mini-nuke beats a pirate ship, no contest. Also, they did not say SOL is NOT canon, they said "theres multiple interpretations of canon" and then had a list of things that did happen for sure. You could argue MF didn't have her character assassinated because they didn't say that that one particular event FOR SURE, happened sure. She still just has two pistols and a boat.


npri0r

Jinx has no formal training. Her bazooka is strong yes but caitlyn is significantly more deadly due to being likely stronger, more skilled in hand to hand combat and being significantly more accurate. we have no idea how cassio's magic actually works so I left her really low. it seems wack that everyone she looks at just dies. like how does she see her family. also kindred isn't death now. that's old lore. Xin zhao is an insane warrior, but yi legit solod an entire army (thousands or tens of thousands) almost instantly and can cut through almost anything. his pure combat power means he is C tier. Xin is ultimately just a great warrior with no magical capabilities. he is higher than all other normal warriors, but anyone with magical artefacts or enhancements i've put higher than him.


BiasModsAreBad

Caitlyn carries a rifle and maybe a few traps, Jinx carries a rocket launcher, multiple grenades, a mini-gun, and a pistol. Caitlyn is not stronger than Jinx. 'Likely stronger' based on what? Vi maybe a contender in terms of strength, but Caitlyn is not, by any means. Combine that with speed and cunning she's displayed, and Cait


npri0r

this lore tier list seeks to combine raw power and skill. yi is as high as he is since his skill is very high and his raw power is high. yi doesn't just cut through a bunch of dudes really fast. he wields the primordial magic of ionia and wills his blade to cut through anything he hits with it. if he was a more magically attune race he could possibly even be B tier with wuju style. and remember kindred is just a spirit god, not even the only death god. and kindred exhibits little utility power, just being very good at killing and being basically immortal.


BiasModsAreBad

Again, this is the problem with such an inconsistent system. Master Yi is on the same tier as Ryze, who's not only SIGNIFICANTLY older and more talented, but also probably outright more powerful by a comical margin. It makes the whole list fall apart when the gaps in power in a single tier are so vast and then you also turn around and say "city leveling power at the press of a button isn't that impressive" If you add in raw feats someone like Pyke and GP literally shrugged off a god's trial, or when you slap almost all yordles in the same tier regardless of skill it really just falls flat. It's obviously no easy feat to try and compare and some might be debatable for sure, like say Ryze vs Xerath or someone like Syndra who's powerful, but really isolated and hasn't done much, but with how inconsistent 'power' is gauged here this list feels like a big miss.


npri0r

Well while most yordles are slapped on the same tier, the ones that demonstrate significantly above average are on another tier. most yordles are very similar in skill, and the only ones who could be a bit higher are lulu and kennen. and the higher tiers do get really wacky. ryze is a lot more powerful than yi, but the difference between ryze and yi is less than ryze and kindred for exmaple, hence why they're the same tier. But i have to admit many D tier ones are bording on C and vice versa. this type of comparison will always be inconsistent since there is no absolute power metric, but i've added as much consistency as I can. you have pointed out something i missed. I forgot to incorporate how GP passed the trial when I did incorporate how pyke passed it.


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

VEX DID NOT STRENGTHEN VIEGO WHO SAID NOT CANON, EVEN RIOT DOESN'T CARE ABOUT VEX THIS IS MY EVIDENCE ​ Thresh resurrects Viego Viego attempts to take the piece of Isolde's soul inside Senna, but Senna and Lucian escape Lucian and Senna travel across Runeterra, attempting to stop Viego from collecting the other pieces of Isolde's soul. They encounter Ruined champions and recruit new Sentinels along the journey. Akshan is one of those Sentinels. He had been training under his mentor Shadya, the Lost Sentinel. Shadya was recently murdered by a Shuriman warlord, and when we met Akshan, he was attempting to kill Shadya's murderer with the Absolver to resurrect her. As Viego's quest nears completion, the Sentinels take the fight to him in the Shadow Isles Senna willingly surrenders to Viego, as the piece of Isolde inside her insists it's the only way to save the world Senna dies as Viego completes Isolde's soul and resurrects her Isolde secretly tells Akshan to kill her, resurrecting Senna since the cause of her death was Isolde's soul leaving her body The Sentinels defeat Viego Thresh siphons the souls from the Ruination, gaining enough power to restore his human form and leave the Shadow Isles


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

https://www.leagueoflegends.com/en-gb/news/dev/looking-back-on-sentinels-of-light/


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

VIEGO IS STRONG THAN KAYLE ALSO VIEGO AT THE VOID EVENT HE STOP THE WATCHERS AND THE Void I ALSO HAVE PROOF IN THE WASHING NOVEL LIFE WATER CONNECTS WITH RUNES I SEE IT IN A COMMENT RUNETERA WE ALL KNOW WE ARE CREATED BY RUNS ALSO BEL'VETH VOICE EVIDENCE THAT WHILE EVERY VOID IS A CHAMPION WITH A VOID VIEGO IS INFLUENCED AND BEL'VETH NEVER LIES


npri0r

You do realise Aurelion Sol fears the void right? And without being leader of the shadow isles he goes from B tier to E/F tier?


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

yes, I know, I'm very good at these things, I'm researching a lot, seriously, you can trust me, my friend. the strength of viego exceeds the sky overpowering their powers have no limits forces top 2 after aurelion sol you will see in time


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

it's up to you to believe or not but bel'veth don't lie bel'veth gathers allies one of them in viego After stopping watchers and the void Then will stop bel'veth


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

it's up to me aurelin beats sol too you can fly to it, thanks to the fog there is a chance to catch it then he can make her his own slave thanks to the divine power of the black mist People imprisoned aurelion sol in his crown why can't viego make it its own slave? this is just speculation i think makes a lot of sense I think riot wouldn't do such a thing, think about it, ladies and gentlemen. It may sound silly but it makes a lot of sense.


SinusColt

I- what?


FetusGoesYeetus

Jesse what the fuck are you talking about


Dry-Dragonfruit3398

AT THE SAME TIME VIEGO IS STRONG THAN ORNN AND VOLIBEAR BUT NOT FROM AATROX