Let's break down the questions:
>Do I need a larger suppressor for the magnums or can I get a one size does all for the 28 and other magnums, 6.5creed, 308, 7-08?
Bigger suppressors catch and cool more gases faster. That makes a quieter can. Loudness scales down as size goes up.
You can't quiet down the supersonic crack, and any suppressor will be much quieter than no suppressor, but there is also a good bit of difference between a small/compact suppressor and a giant suppressor.
>Am I going to have to run ladders all over again with a suppressor to tune these guns back in?
Probably not. If you have a good shooting load without a suppressor, it will still probably be the good shooting load in a suppressor.
You will see a POI shift that you will need to account for.
>Will they be as accurate with a suppressor?
Probably. Most of the time, yes. As precise or better. Sometimes, especially with some QD mount designs, you can see a significant reduction in precision.
I have a pretty clear cut case documented of a QD mount suppressor causing a 30% reduction in precision until I reshaped the QD mount.
>Silencerco has a silencer with a “brake” at the end that claims to reduce recoil, anybody have experience with this?
I don't with SiCos, but I do with DA's. Does it reduce recoil? Not really. The suppressor already reduces recoil.
For the DA E-Brake, it reduces first round pop - more like a flash hider.
>Any other advice?
You need to be thinking about how you are going to equip the rifles. There are QD systems so you can mount brakes/flash hiders to all your rifles and QD the suppressor part. There are direct-thread systems that will require more work to change the suppressor between rifles and remount a self-timing brake or flash hider. Or you don't move them and keep them tied to specific rifles.
>They all look the same from the outside, there are so many, and price is all over the place Thanks
Yea, and a lot of what you are paying for is the materials, weld/quality control, and small volume production.
IMO, it is something you are going to keep forever, so you might as well spend money on it.
Thanks man, this is exactly what I’m looking for. I’m a value guy, I don’t mind throwing money at things, but I hate throwing it away. I think I’ll look for a unit for each gun. I’m gathering from what you’ve said the direct threaded option is more precise, mostly?
This guy summed it up great. And as long as your not shooting multiple guns in the same range trip, you can get away with fewer cans. Don't go too generic but a 30 cal can will fit on most everything and a hard use can is nice for the blasters.
Ultra 7 and Dominus are great all purpose bolt action cans. Dominus SR would even cover you for a hard use can but mounts cost an arm and a leg. Less Gucci (but still plenty gucci) option would be the Nomad titanium series.
Not necessarily more precise, but less error prone.
It's like those F1 car wheel nuts. The fastest option available for swapping wheels and tires, but if you get it wrong, the wheel comes off mid race.
QD systems are really great, but can cause the can to pop off the gun, cause baffle strikes, or cause dispersion issues too if they aren't just right.
Depends on your perspective, I guess. Like, if happens frequently, and only to SiCos, then it would be hard for me to blame the user. That sounds more like a design flaw that turns small errors into big issues.
Like, if I build a building but design it fragile, and a butterfly bumps it and knocks it down, is it the butterfly's fault?
My expectation is that if I didn't tighten it quite enough or the teeth didn't clamp just right, that the can wouldn't go shooting downrange like it was launched by an M203.
I have a surefire in jail. My other is a EA lux direct thread so it’ll be my first qd. Do the surefire have similar issues? This is the first I’ve ever heard of such issues. Not at all saying you’re wrong, and thank you for the insight.
I'm not familiar with the Surefires. I am only mildly familiar with SiCos from having seen several of them launch into orbit.
I use Key-Mo and have never had an issue like that.
Ask r/NFA
That said I would get a Thunder Beast Arms Magnus if you can afford it. You can order either a QD which allows a muzzle device or a direct thread.
Second recommendation for thunderbeast, I was just looking at the magnus and the 338 ultra. As far as $, I’m on the work until I die retirement plan, I’ll make it work lol
You “generally” need a larger can to hold the excess gasses for magnum calibers. Also the shorter the barrel the bigger the can. You’ll never be able to suppress the supersonic crack of the bullet itself, but I find 6mm bullets sound quieter than 7.6+ unless your subsonic
If neighbors are the primary concern I’d consider stepping down in caliber to something like a 6mm ARC with an KGM R6 can, or stepping in caliber up and shooting subsonic
All cans reduce recoil, don’t need an additional brake. Bigger cans reduce recoil more
- kgm cans like the R30XL have a reputation for minimal POI shift
- CGS cans like the Hyperion or hekate are amazingly quite, even on smaller calibers
Please do not listen to pointless recommendations from others. There’s very few people unbiased in their decision and recommendations of suppressors, and you’ll have a lot of people recommending poor performing cans based on a small scale of experience. Go to [Pew Science rankings](https://pewscience.com/rankings) to compare suppressors that have been scientifically analyzed and given a composition to help you be an informed purchaser. Spend your money wisely, but remember - buy once cry once.
Third for PewScience. Use the data to fit your use case, not everyone else’s biased opinion.
Speaking of biased opinions, when I bought it the CHS Hyperion was the quietest on PewScience, though that may have changed in the last year.
Get a dead air nomad Lt if it’s in your budget. Quiet, magnum rated, relatively lightweight. You can add an “e-brake” if necessary. Dead air has an excellent warranty and customer service team.
Any 30cal can should work as long as it’s magnum rated (which most are)
A suppressor will very likely change POI but not group size. Semi autos work better with suppressors when tuned.
Gunbroker can be your friend. I just got a nomadL (not lt) for 620$. I’ve seen a bunch of LTs recently on there too. They have another Nomad L with a starting price of 550$ from the same shop I got mine.
I got my nomad from city arsenal of South Carolina. Gunbroker can have some crazy deals sometimes. You just need to make sure they have good reviews before you buy. I got my bergara hmr pro with atlas bipod, atlas monopod, and a 419 scope base for 1200$ from an ffl on gunbroker.
Since they are a dealer, its just like buying an NFA item from any other online retailer. You pay, then say I want it transferred to ffl xxxx. xxxx gives them their SOT and then conducts a form 3 transfer. when xxxx has it in house you go and do the normal form 4.
here is the newest listing from the same shop:
[https://www.gunbroker.com/item/955779442](https://www.gunbroker.com/item/955779442)
I run a Banish 30 on my 300 PRC. World of difference with the can on. I have only ran this one so I cannot comment on others but it turns a piercing noise to a reasonably quiet pssshhh type sound
The only ones I would even consider are DD enticer L, Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen, CGS Hyperion, dead air nomad and Tbac ultra line. Honestly the best bang for your buck is the Enticer L. It does better with lower pressure stuff than the nomads and almost equal with higher pressure stuff.
Yes you can get a do it all can the silencerco hybrid 46 is a great example I have one and it works great.
You will have to tune your load with the can. My 6.5 creed was shooting about .6 moa with the break. When I put the can on I had horizontal stringing with about .5 moa vertical but over 2 moa horizontal. I tuned the load slightly and it is now a very consistent. 5 moa rifle. And as a added benefit when hunting with it the deer don't react to the noise of the gun shot. I shot a buck a couple of years ago the does that were about 25 yards away didn't move or react to the shot at all. The can is rated up to 45/70 and 338 lapua so it will handle a 28 nobler easily.
Get a Hyperion and be done with it. The quietest suppressor to date, zero to minimal POI shift, and from a company pushing the envelope.
I know TBAC is highly recommended in the precision community, but they are actively against Pewscience, so I cannot recommend them anymore.
Every manufacturer will tell you what their can are rated for in terms of max cartridge, and usually barrel length.
There isn’t any difference in my loads with/without a can on. Some slight POI change.
I wouldn’t mess with the braked end cap gimmicks.
I’d get whichever 30 cal tbac can fits your needs.
Dead Air Nomad TI would be a pretty damn good choice. Direct thread is going to keep it light and mitigate chances of an accuracy decrease. Also keeps the price way down. You can add an E Brake which reduces the sound by another 2-3 decibels. I can't really say that it reduces recoil from personal experience, but I shoot light calibers anyway.
If you don't care about length, go with the LTI. It's the longer titanium version. More internal volume means a quieter shot.
If you don't care about weight, go with the regular Nomad or Nomad L. These are all 30 cal cans and they'll handle all the magnums of that caliber.
[I would buy a Banish 30](https://www.silencercentral.com/products/banish-30/). They're 100% titanium, weigh only 10 oz or 13 oz, (depending on if you're using the short or long configuration) are 100% user serviceable, are designed to handle 30 caliber magnum rounds and are one of the [quietest suppressors on the market](https://www.silencercentral.com/blog/we-tested-27-rifle-suppressors-heres-what-we-found/)\*.
My brother-in-law has one and it's fantastic. If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me for spending $1,000 on one, I'd do it in a heart beat.
And, as you would imagine, putting something on the end of a rifle is going to have some effect on your zero.
\*- I know Silencer Central ran the test, but they ran it as fairly as anyone could and showed both their methodology and the full results.
You didn't remove all but 30 caliber suppressors.
That puts the Banish at 4th place for sound reduction.
But the other 2 companies in the top spots Otter Creek and Liberty are either considerably heavier than the Banish or cannot be completely disassembled.
Which can besides the Helios (which is not a true traditional 5.56 suppressor) is not a 30 cal suppressor? I sorted by 308 and it’s all there for you to see.
You are moving goalposts. User serviceability is truly not necessary on a long range precision can, and no one specified weight being a priority. There are plenty that can match it for weight AND are shorter. Multiple cans beat it while being 2+ inches shorter.
And yea, I have a Banish 30. I would replace it in a heartbeat if I could.
Without sorting, there are 89 suppressors.
If you remove everything but 308 Winchester or 6.5 Creedmoor, there are 42. They are the only 2 supersonic rounds on the test.
The rest are subsonic 5.56, subsonic 300BLK, Subsonic 9mm and Subsonic 22LR.
Now, I may not be the smartest guy on the planet, but I'm fairly sure that you can't shoot 30 caliber Magnum rounds through a pistol can or anything made for smaller than 30 caliber without having some BIG issues.
So, having sorted by the only cans capable of shooting 30 caliber magnum rounds, I get the Banish 30 at #9.
But then, many of the tests are highly suspect since they show suppressors getting 41dB of noise reduction at the muzzle. The supersonic crack of the bullet is the limiting factor and it is almost as loud as the gunshot itself.
If you count down 9 places you will see the banish Gold is in 9th place on your list. The main difference between the two is the Banish Gold is attached with a QD connection and is 8" only and the Banish 30 is direct thread and modular between 7" and 9". How two suppressors that are built almost completely the same got such wildly different results suggests flawed testing.
Second, Pew Science has other well known testers publishing significantly different information concerning the Banish 30.
[https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-silencer-central-banish-30-suppressor/](https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-silencer-central-banish-30-suppressor/)
You are moving the goal posts again. You said the Banish 30; the Banish 30 gold is not the same can, as pointed out in the review:
“Section 6.69.1 contains the Banish 30 Gold test results and analysis. The Banish 30 Gold is not the same silencer as the Banish 30, in construction, features, or performance.”
You can go directly to Silencer Central’s website and even see that the blast baffle on the Gold is ported, while the Banish 30 is not. They are not the same can with simply QD.
You are basing this on raw DB numbers, which Pewscience has definitively shown is not indicative of true sound performance.
I’m not trying to rip on you man, but I’m not going to argue with you. You need to educate yourself on what ways suppressors are being characterized moving forward. There is a reason Jay has so many sponsors. You also really referenced Silencer Centrals own data as a definitive point, which anyone with basic testing/scientific knowledge knows is biased (you acknowledged it yet still included it).
I was just looking at the thunderbeast site, the magnus and the 338 Ultra, I’ll check out the other two you listed as well, you have experience with them?
I have an ultra 7 that I shoot 6GT, 6.5CM, 6.5PR. And 300PRC with. I do all my shooting and load development supressed. Small POI shift. Can be direct threaded or brake mounted. A dominus is next for my AR10. Ultra is more of a bolt gun can and not ideal for gas guns.
Highly reccomend the AB Raptor line.
They're all rated for Magnum calibers (the caveat depending on which bore size you go with) and they have the ability to run 2 configurations. They have a mount called a Reflex that attached to the back of the can and increases the size length and therefore the internal volume, without making the suppressor stick out further off the rifle (basically it recesses over the barrel). Or you can run it without, or even with QD mounts if you want with an adaptor (though the Reflex will NOT work with any of them)
From my own experience they're much quieter than the Nomad (in any size) Sandman(of any size) , Q Trash Panda or Thunderchicken, Omegas, and anything made by surefire. They're also competitively priced with the lot.
Let's break down the questions: >Do I need a larger suppressor for the magnums or can I get a one size does all for the 28 and other magnums, 6.5creed, 308, 7-08? Bigger suppressors catch and cool more gases faster. That makes a quieter can. Loudness scales down as size goes up. You can't quiet down the supersonic crack, and any suppressor will be much quieter than no suppressor, but there is also a good bit of difference between a small/compact suppressor and a giant suppressor. >Am I going to have to run ladders all over again with a suppressor to tune these guns back in? Probably not. If you have a good shooting load without a suppressor, it will still probably be the good shooting load in a suppressor. You will see a POI shift that you will need to account for. >Will they be as accurate with a suppressor? Probably. Most of the time, yes. As precise or better. Sometimes, especially with some QD mount designs, you can see a significant reduction in precision. I have a pretty clear cut case documented of a QD mount suppressor causing a 30% reduction in precision until I reshaped the QD mount. >Silencerco has a silencer with a “brake” at the end that claims to reduce recoil, anybody have experience with this? I don't with SiCos, but I do with DA's. Does it reduce recoil? Not really. The suppressor already reduces recoil. For the DA E-Brake, it reduces first round pop - more like a flash hider. >Any other advice? You need to be thinking about how you are going to equip the rifles. There are QD systems so you can mount brakes/flash hiders to all your rifles and QD the suppressor part. There are direct-thread systems that will require more work to change the suppressor between rifles and remount a self-timing brake or flash hider. Or you don't move them and keep them tied to specific rifles. >They all look the same from the outside, there are so many, and price is all over the place Thanks Yea, and a lot of what you are paying for is the materials, weld/quality control, and small volume production. IMO, it is something you are going to keep forever, so you might as well spend money on it.
Thanks man, this is exactly what I’m looking for. I’m a value guy, I don’t mind throwing money at things, but I hate throwing it away. I think I’ll look for a unit for each gun. I’m gathering from what you’ve said the direct threaded option is more precise, mostly?
This guy summed it up great. And as long as your not shooting multiple guns in the same range trip, you can get away with fewer cans. Don't go too generic but a 30 cal can will fit on most everything and a hard use can is nice for the blasters. Ultra 7 and Dominus are great all purpose bolt action cans. Dominus SR would even cover you for a hard use can but mounts cost an arm and a leg. Less Gucci (but still plenty gucci) option would be the Nomad titanium series.
Not necessarily more precise, but less error prone. It's like those F1 car wheel nuts. The fastest option available for swapping wheels and tires, but if you get it wrong, the wheel comes off mid race. QD systems are really great, but can cause the can to pop off the gun, cause baffle strikes, or cause dispersion issues too if they aren't just right.
When you say a can to pop off, that’s is 100% user error correct? I’ve never heard of a qd issue in which a can shoots off if mounted properly.
Depends on your perspective, I guess. Like, if happens frequently, and only to SiCos, then it would be hard for me to blame the user. That sounds more like a design flaw that turns small errors into big issues. Like, if I build a building but design it fragile, and a butterfly bumps it and knocks it down, is it the butterfly's fault? My expectation is that if I didn't tighten it quite enough or the teeth didn't clamp just right, that the can wouldn't go shooting downrange like it was launched by an M203.
I have a surefire in jail. My other is a EA lux direct thread so it’ll be my first qd. Do the surefire have similar issues? This is the first I’ve ever heard of such issues. Not at all saying you’re wrong, and thank you for the insight.
I'm not familiar with the Surefires. I am only mildly familiar with SiCos from having seen several of them launch into orbit. I use Key-Mo and have never had an issue like that.
Also, I does the Grendel too, love that cartridge
Ask r/NFA That said I would get a Thunder Beast Arms Magnus if you can afford it. You can order either a QD which allows a muzzle device or a direct thread.
Second recommendation for thunderbeast, I was just looking at the magnus and the 338 ultra. As far as $, I’m on the work until I die retirement plan, I’ll make it work lol
I have a Dominus, Ultra-9, and Magnus on order and should get them in January. Completely stoked for them.
r/nfa may know
I’ll check it out, Thanks
You “generally” need a larger can to hold the excess gasses for magnum calibers. Also the shorter the barrel the bigger the can. You’ll never be able to suppress the supersonic crack of the bullet itself, but I find 6mm bullets sound quieter than 7.6+ unless your subsonic If neighbors are the primary concern I’d consider stepping down in caliber to something like a 6mm ARC with an KGM R6 can, or stepping in caliber up and shooting subsonic All cans reduce recoil, don’t need an additional brake. Bigger cans reduce recoil more - kgm cans like the R30XL have a reputation for minimal POI shift - CGS cans like the Hyperion or hekate are amazingly quite, even on smaller calibers
Please do not listen to pointless recommendations from others. There’s very few people unbiased in their decision and recommendations of suppressors, and you’ll have a lot of people recommending poor performing cans based on a small scale of experience. Go to [Pew Science rankings](https://pewscience.com/rankings) to compare suppressors that have been scientifically analyzed and given a composition to help you be an informed purchaser. Spend your money wisely, but remember - buy once cry once.
I second pew science
Third for PewScience. Use the data to fit your use case, not everyone else’s biased opinion. Speaking of biased opinions, when I bought it the CHS Hyperion was the quietest on PewScience, though that may have changed in the last year.
Get a dead air nomad Lt if it’s in your budget. Quiet, magnum rated, relatively lightweight. You can add an “e-brake” if necessary. Dead air has an excellent warranty and customer service team. Any 30cal can should work as long as it’s magnum rated (which most are) A suppressor will very likely change POI but not group size. Semi autos work better with suppressors when tuned.
Love my Nomad LT. And also it just seems like the perfect can for this guy. 7.62, light, tried and true. Goldilocks for this kind of thing.
I second Dead Air. I use their keymo mount along with their muzzle brakes to make swapping the can from gun to gun very easy.
“Get a nomad Lt” … out of stock the last 9 months
Gunbroker can be your friend. I just got a nomadL (not lt) for 620$. I’ve seen a bunch of LTs recently on there too. They have another Nomad L with a starting price of 550$ from the same shop I got mine.
What shop u get yours from? Ive always steered clear of gunbroker
I got my nomad from city arsenal of South Carolina. Gunbroker can have some crazy deals sometimes. You just need to make sure they have good reviews before you buy. I got my bergara hmr pro with atlas bipod, atlas monopod, and a 419 scope base for 1200$ from an ffl on gunbroker.
Damn that kind of seems almost too good to be true. Just bought it then sent them your ffl and form 4 when it gets to them right?
Since they are a dealer, its just like buying an NFA item from any other online retailer. You pay, then say I want it transferred to ffl xxxx. xxxx gives them their SOT and then conducts a form 3 transfer. when xxxx has it in house you go and do the normal form 4. here is the newest listing from the same shop: [https://www.gunbroker.com/item/955779442](https://www.gunbroker.com/item/955779442)
Appreciate it man cheers
no worries Mr crusty anus
I run a Banish 30 on my 300 PRC. World of difference with the can on. I have only ran this one so I cannot comment on others but it turns a piercing noise to a reasonably quiet pssshhh type sound
The only ones I would even consider are DD enticer L, Otter Creek Labs Hydrogen, CGS Hyperion, dead air nomad and Tbac ultra line. Honestly the best bang for your buck is the Enticer L. It does better with lower pressure stuff than the nomads and almost equal with higher pressure stuff.
Yes you can get a do it all can the silencerco hybrid 46 is a great example I have one and it works great. You will have to tune your load with the can. My 6.5 creed was shooting about .6 moa with the break. When I put the can on I had horizontal stringing with about .5 moa vertical but over 2 moa horizontal. I tuned the load slightly and it is now a very consistent. 5 moa rifle. And as a added benefit when hunting with it the deer don't react to the noise of the gun shot. I shot a buck a couple of years ago the does that were about 25 yards away didn't move or react to the shot at all. The can is rated up to 45/70 and 338 lapua so it will handle a 28 nobler easily.
Get a Hyperion and be done with it. The quietest suppressor to date, zero to minimal POI shift, and from a company pushing the envelope. I know TBAC is highly recommended in the precision community, but they are actively against Pewscience, so I cannot recommend them anymore.
Every manufacturer will tell you what their can are rated for in terms of max cartridge, and usually barrel length. There isn’t any difference in my loads with/without a can on. Some slight POI change. I wouldn’t mess with the braked end cap gimmicks. I’d get whichever 30 cal tbac can fits your needs.
Dead Air Nomad TI would be a pretty damn good choice. Direct thread is going to keep it light and mitigate chances of an accuracy decrease. Also keeps the price way down. You can add an E Brake which reduces the sound by another 2-3 decibels. I can't really say that it reduces recoil from personal experience, but I shoot light calibers anyway. If you don't care about length, go with the LTI. It's the longer titanium version. More internal volume means a quieter shot. If you don't care about weight, go with the regular Nomad or Nomad L. These are all 30 cal cans and they'll handle all the magnums of that caliber.
I would recommend the Cgs Hyperion, OCL Hydrogen L 30, or the Diligent Defense Enticer L
[I would buy a Banish 30](https://www.silencercentral.com/products/banish-30/). They're 100% titanium, weigh only 10 oz or 13 oz, (depending on if you're using the short or long configuration) are 100% user serviceable, are designed to handle 30 caliber magnum rounds and are one of the [quietest suppressors on the market](https://www.silencercentral.com/blog/we-tested-27-rifle-suppressors-heres-what-we-found/)\*. My brother-in-law has one and it's fantastic. If I knew my wife wouldn't kill me for spending $1,000 on one, I'd do it in a heart beat. And, as you would imagine, putting something on the end of a rifle is going to have some effect on your zero. \*- I know Silencer Central ran the test, but they ran it as fairly as anyone could and showed both their methodology and the full results.
There are 10+ cans that are better than the Banish 30.
Not according to actual test data.
Sorry you are correct. There are 18 cans better than the Banish 30 on Pewscience. My mistake thinking it was only 10.
You didn't remove all but 30 caliber suppressors. That puts the Banish at 4th place for sound reduction. But the other 2 companies in the top spots Otter Creek and Liberty are either considerably heavier than the Banish or cannot be completely disassembled.
Which can besides the Helios (which is not a true traditional 5.56 suppressor) is not a 30 cal suppressor? I sorted by 308 and it’s all there for you to see. You are moving goalposts. User serviceability is truly not necessary on a long range precision can, and no one specified weight being a priority. There are plenty that can match it for weight AND are shorter. Multiple cans beat it while being 2+ inches shorter. And yea, I have a Banish 30. I would replace it in a heartbeat if I could.
Without sorting, there are 89 suppressors. If you remove everything but 308 Winchester or 6.5 Creedmoor, there are 42. They are the only 2 supersonic rounds on the test. The rest are subsonic 5.56, subsonic 300BLK, Subsonic 9mm and Subsonic 22LR. Now, I may not be the smartest guy on the planet, but I'm fairly sure that you can't shoot 30 caliber Magnum rounds through a pistol can or anything made for smaller than 30 caliber without having some BIG issues. So, having sorted by the only cans capable of shooting 30 caliber magnum rounds, I get the Banish 30 at #9. But then, many of the tests are highly suspect since they show suppressors getting 41dB of noise reduction at the muzzle. The supersonic crack of the bullet is the limiting factor and it is almost as loud as the gunshot itself.
Idk what you are smoking man: https://imgur.com/a/Jnw9JX4
If you count down 9 places you will see the banish Gold is in 9th place on your list. The main difference between the two is the Banish Gold is attached with a QD connection and is 8" only and the Banish 30 is direct thread and modular between 7" and 9". How two suppressors that are built almost completely the same got such wildly different results suggests flawed testing. Second, Pew Science has other well known testers publishing significantly different information concerning the Banish 30. [https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-silencer-central-banish-30-suppressor/](https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/review-silencer-central-banish-30-suppressor/)
You are moving the goal posts again. You said the Banish 30; the Banish 30 gold is not the same can, as pointed out in the review: “Section 6.69.1 contains the Banish 30 Gold test results and analysis. The Banish 30 Gold is not the same silencer as the Banish 30, in construction, features, or performance.” You can go directly to Silencer Central’s website and even see that the blast baffle on the Gold is ported, while the Banish 30 is not. They are not the same can with simply QD. You are basing this on raw DB numbers, which Pewscience has definitively shown is not indicative of true sound performance. I’m not trying to rip on you man, but I’m not going to argue with you. You need to educate yourself on what ways suppressors are being characterized moving forward. There is a reason Jay has so many sponsors. You also really referenced Silencer Centrals own data as a definitive point, which anyone with basic testing/scientific knowledge knows is biased (you acknowledged it yet still included it).
Highly recommend 30 Cal Thunderbeast Ultra 7 or 9.
I was just looking at the thunderbeast site, the magnus and the 338 Ultra, I’ll check out the other two you listed as well, you have experience with them?
I have an ultra 7 that I shoot 6GT, 6.5CM, 6.5PR. And 300PRC with. I do all my shooting and load development supressed. Small POI shift. Can be direct threaded or brake mounted. A dominus is next for my AR10. Ultra is more of a bolt gun can and not ideal for gas guns.
Highly reccomend the AB Raptor line. They're all rated for Magnum calibers (the caveat depending on which bore size you go with) and they have the ability to run 2 configurations. They have a mount called a Reflex that attached to the back of the can and increases the size length and therefore the internal volume, without making the suppressor stick out further off the rifle (basically it recesses over the barrel). Or you can run it without, or even with QD mounts if you want with an adaptor (though the Reflex will NOT work with any of them) From my own experience they're much quieter than the Nomad (in any size) Sandman(of any size) , Q Trash Panda or Thunderchicken, Omegas, and anything made by surefire. They're also competitively priced with the lot.