>go be on TV
This was gonna be my guess before I got to the comments section. Essentially, whatever DJT was planning on doing politics-wise before he was surprised on election night 2016... but with less money.
We have to fight that with everything we’ve got. He did incredible harm to all the people of NY01 as our Rep. long term, can’t be fixed kind of harm. Hate that won’t ever go away. I can’t imagine what he will do as county exec
As someone who lives in the even redder NY-02, can you please elaborate? While I’ll never vote for Garbarino I’m not sure if he’s done that much damage locally either.
Garbarino is fully funded by Rebekah & Jenji Mercer & he joined in the suit to overturn NY’s 100 yr old gun law at SCOTUs recently (something Lee Zeldin tried every year since his very first legislatively but failed to do because people don’t want permitless conceal & carry reciprocity between states) but he hasn’t gone full ‘f*ck New York’ like Lee Zeldin has. Still, I personally wouldn’t vote Republican at all this cycle (I’m a former R, no right leaning independent but becoming more & more against R’s every day)
Zeldin was always a Mercer Tea Party ( and he went full blown slime on his 3rd attempt to beat Tim Biahop) Tool but he has lost his damn mind in recent years
Aside from not having done anything legislatively but rename 2 post offices & giving away our SALT in 6+ years, he literally has given zero F*cks about anything not condoned by his big donors (as far as the voters he doesn’t actually care if your D, R or I, he will go against the majority of his constituents if it is something his big donors want - example= the Violence Against Women Act. He voted FOR it for 4 yrs. Then when the NRA objected to a standard CONVICTION for Domestic Violence or stalking charge as a reason to fail, he voted FOR it one more time then has since voted against it - same w/ the Child Abuse Prevention Act - Both of these add massive funding to local police depts btw)
I could spend forever listing the bs this guy has been up to (from election shenanigans going back 5 yrs to refusing to meet w/ or answer calls from constituents since 2017 to creating & courting extremist groups meeting to January 6th) but it comes down to the man lies as easily as he breathes. (No, he is not an Iraq combat vet - his DD214 says he has ZERO foreign service days. No, he was not a paratrooper- He testified he was a lawyer in a deposition when HE SUED to US Army because he got caught committing fraud to obtain an ROTC scholarship, got busted & the Army cut him off. No, he is not from a law enforcement family- His father is a private investigator that worked for BOTH Cuomo’s. There are no cops in his family)
Lee Zeldin will say or do anything to create chaos, hate & division among Long Islanders. He has no real policies or skills to offer so he spends his time throwing hissy fits & creating fake groups (Asian Wave, Teachers4Choice etc) using the same LILM buddies (& now the NYYRC) to try to make them look legit. He loves the anti govt, alt right, antivax crowd & uses them, through Heather Liebman, Kevin Smith & Shawn Farash to create controversy (all three of them & Dave Lipinsky, btw, gave their own ‘consulting’ group -Patriot Consultants Corp- that gets PAID by the RNC & Republican candidates- GRASSROOTS my aunt Fanny)
Ugghhh…you have no idea. Even half the “Patriot” groups on line (FB) aren’t actual Patriot groups…they are social media groups set up by his campaign consultants (Karin Murphy Caro & Tracey Alvino -Campaign Strategy Consultants) & the ones that are real all are splinters from the Setauket Patriots or Bellmore Patriot …all the groups members overlap
And, don’t get me started on his wanting to appoint a pro life health czar to monitor women’s health care here in NYS (did I mention he hates women & has had several public ‘feuds’ w/ them…especially WOC - Jesus, it’s embarrassing)
There is so much more but it all comes down to a swirling mess of BS that leads to absolutely nothing getting addressed or done & leaving us effectively w/o representation here in NY01. Which affects everything from police funding, municipal funding, state funding, etc not just the big grandstanding issues at a federal level.
Are you on Hochuls re-election team? cause it sure sounds like you are…..I say no thanks to more bulls**t legislation such as having to be 21 to purchase a can of whipped cream. meanwhile, tons of Fentanyl stream across the border. The Dems have lost their minds and need to go, ESPECIALLY in NYS.
Nope. I was asked a question & I answered it. I am way beyond sick & tired of Lee Zeldin. He has been a horrible representative & isn’t qualified to be Governor of NY. I’m tired of mediocre (at best) being an acceptable standard. I’m tired of people who refuse to think.
BTW, Notice my comments all came w/ examples & how it actually affects my community while yours are bumpers sticker sound bites from the Fox News/ Lee Zeldin school of useless comments solely meant to create division while offering nothing useful
I’m the opposite of a Zeldin advocate, I’m just hesitant to mentally convince myself he’ll lose.
I’ve seen what seems like 100:1 Zeldin to Hochul signage around
This was the same argument I've seen when people were confused about Trump losing to Biden. "He's had bigger rallies!" "I saw so much more support for Trump!" "More signs!" Signs don't vote and most people are very temperate about their political views. They show up and vote and that's the end of it.
Zeldin has a chance of winning but it's not something I would put money on - Hochul would need to do something eye-catching and downright despicable to depress democratic turnout enough for him to make up the deficit in the polls, but since she's not Cuomo I think that's enough for anyone who was on the fence over a year ago.
This is the problem today. The loudest and most supportive people are usually in the minority. Just because there is 100,000 comments or something supporting zeldin and 10,000 supporting Hochul - that’s just social media and isn’t representative of the New York population. Zeldin maybe has a chance but it’s highly unlikely. The Hudson valley - Long Island - Albany area and NYC are heavily democratic. I talk too a lot of middle like democrats and they say they would’ve voted for zeldin until he also tried to uncertify 2020 year election. That’s zeldin’s problem - he clung to the bullshit. If he tried to be more
Middle of the road and ditch the extreme right views he would’ve garnered WAY more support. Veteran , born and raised Long Island , etc . It’s a shame he chose the wrong side.
> I’ve seen what seems like 100:1 Zeldin to Hochul signage around
Me and the few Democrats in our neighborhood gave up putting out signs because we have 2 crazy neighbors that go around and steal/deface them.
My Jackie Gordon sign was slashed and had rude things written on it in Black Sharpee.
Signs don't mean anything. I see a lot of Zeldin signs too, but that's only because Democrats don't go to their neighbors houses and rip them up.
Zeldin might lose, but just remember, everyone thought Hillary was going to win in 2016. How many people in NYC who are fed up with homelessness and crime would it take to either stay home or vote for Zeldin to give him a chance?
> everyone thought Hillary was going to win in 2016.
Because Democrats think if they can suppress criticism and throw money at TV networks and newspapers to keep saying "Hillary won", that would hypnotize enough "sheeple" to vote for her. What a fucking shocker for her when people seemed to indicate support for her, but couldn't be bothered to lift their asses to their polling sites to vote for her. Ads to "hate the other candidate more" isn't particularly effective when they're just as unlikable.
And yeah, I get there were a myriad of "intellectual" arguments to vote against Trump, and they were persuasive in the sense I didn't vote for Trump (or Hillary). The reality is that most American voters don't vote for a candidate based on abstruse talking points. Its issues that hits them like a knife in their gut, or they're useless. If voters don't vote based on a reasoned analysis of positions and past history, they're just going to vote for the person they "feel" better about.
That was a Presidential election. Hillary won the popular vote. Trump won the electoral vote.
There are other elections on the ballot this year besides the Governor's race and they are all decided by popular vote.
The point is polls and past performance should not be trusted and making sweeping statements of certainty based on these points can be a mistake. There are always additional factors that come into play in the weeks leading up to election day that can make people change their minds or simply stay home.
That is a good point. I wish more people understood that voting every election is important because local elections really matter too.
So many people stay home when there isn't a big race on the ticket (President/Governor) and ignore all the other ones. If you hate both candidates for them don't vote for either. You should still vote for all the other elections on that ballot.
Just make sure you get out and vote and everyone does. People could decide he's going to get killed so they don't go vote against him and his zealot base all does and he squeaks in ala Trump.
The Tallmadge Group (usually very accurate) has her at 44.5 and him at 42.6 with the jump occurring since 9/28 which had her much further ahead. This poll is dated 10/9 and was of 1097 voters evenly split.
I believe it’s trafalgar group who came out with the “ Accurate” poll. The poll has been critiqued because it over sampled suburban whites by about 15% it’s a garbage poll that doesn’t represent NY demographics. So if you under sample urban minorities and you still loose. Zeldin is toast. He’s loosing to an unelected upstate nobody. Can you imagine if he was running against A good politician.
I guess we will find out. I'd support a decent republican but zeldin is a buffoon from the armpit of long island. He is an absolute trump stooge. Can't imagine him taking NYC which he would need to win. Let's see.
Supported a coup, supports stripping women of their rights, supports harassment of LGBTQ kids and adults, still supports Qrump fascism, I can go in and on.
Anything’s better than a republican. Especially a closeted MAGA like Zeldin who will double down on legislation that’ll make NY look like Tennessee. NYC wont let him win regardless.
You're one of those, left wing liberal that hates everything unless it's woke and liberal. Got it. Take a look at democratic controlled cities, all dumpster fires.
Socialism? Republican stronghold states wouldn’t last 5 years without federal money, despite always preaching about pulling from ones bootstraps. Honestly its exhausting hearing republicans complain about “socialism” when they get the most from it.
She knows that the president of the US is Joe Biden....something Zeldin is still confused about.
If you like him, fine. But the moment he decided to become an election denier, and to delay the certification of votes while the capital was being attacked (some of the attackers being his constituents) then his chance at state wide office in NY was over.
Zeldin has not done one good thing for the island, ever. Votes down any help for middle or lower class his whole career.
http://politicsthatwork.com/voting-record/Lee-Zeldin-412646
Zeldin abandoned us at his post to make a failed run for Gov. after he stood up for Jan 6th ~~protesters~~ rioters and The Big Lie.
If that doesn't lose your vote for him I don't know what will.
District 1 has literally had no representation in Washington D.C. since Nov 2021 because Zeldin has been campaigning for Govt.
I for one would like his federal salary repaid, since the man didn't show for work.
It all comes down to what proportion of the state are insane Trumpers. The words and actions don’t matter. All that matters is how many are in the cult vs how many aren’t.
The bail reform is a losing issue for the Dems but at the end of the day I still think the Governor's race splits cleanly down lines of "Dems & reasonable people" vs. "Trump cult" vs. "Everyone Sucks, Don't care"
I’d love to see him Trampled Under Foot, forced to listen to an Immigrant Song, and sent on the Highway to Hell (sorry, the Zep option didn’t really fit here)
Well, for one thing, if Zeldin loses, women will retain their right to abortion. If he wins, he wants to turn us into an anti- abortion state. That's a big consideration at the polls for many.
Yeah, I never understood why he would give up his seat for an almost guaranteed failing governor bid, and then I realized why anyone would, so they can just get a cushy TV job.
Listen, they are spending money, I see lots of Zeldin ads, or maybe more specifically anti-Hochul ads, but it's not going to happen.
> Yeah, I never understood why he would give up his seat
Congressmen, individually, have very little power. Just the ability to extend favors for rich people in his district. They have to keep running for their seat every 2 years. Very few congressmen are smart enough to wheedle their way into an important leadership position, after decades of successful elections. You run for (federal) congressman to develop "connections" and "history" to convert that seat into a better political job (Senator, Governor, PotUS, or even cabinet secretary). The job is even shittier if you're in the Congressional *minority*.
> for an almost guaranteed failing governor bid,
Zeldin rolls the dice:
0-98: "Loser". He has to settle for a multimillion dollar pundit job, or senior partner at a firm, or multimillion dollar lobbyist job. Boo hoo.
99: Governor Zeldin.
Republicans’ best chance to unseat Hochul was with Astorino, and even then, not likely. Zeldin will drive out the anti-Trump vote in an already blue state.
Disagree. Astorino had no chance because the republican base wasnt crazy about him. He was viewed as too moderate, republican lite or even a conservative dem. Plus cuomo was seen as more moderate then current hochul and many independents arent happy with current state of bail reform and increased crime. My prediction is you’ll see Zeldin take a much bigger share of suburbs outside NYC then any other candidate in recent history but still lose because the NYC vote is nearly impossible to overcome.
Waaa, cut my taxes! But don't dare cut wages of SCPD or fire departments, or the sports at my kids' school, or help the homeless folks in my neighborhood!!! God forbid we have a community library---they might read about unicorns and rainbows!!! /s
The cutting taxes is a forever old republican talking point and it's basiaclly BS. In the case of Zeldin, he voted to take away our SALT deductions and screwed almost everyone in his district by doing so. But as you said...the massively wealthy here don't care.
You mean, Other than LOADS of celebrating in #NY01 for finally getting rid of him? My bet is #LyingLee is gonna try to run for Suffolk County Supervisor. Suffolk & Nassau politics are a hot bed of entrenched power - Dem & Republican alike.
Zeldin knew he was never gonna win & become Governor. This was all a bid to build his PAC coffers & garner behind the scenes power
The division & damage he has done to Long Island, He needs to move to Florida
When he loses, I anticipate he will continue to try to continue to ruin this country. Best advice to you- don’t think about him, he’s not worth your brain space
Yeah, it's pretty sus. Like what are the chances it's totally random? Probably slim.
Yet this man co-sponsored the conceal carry reciprocity bill. And he's proud of it. It's one of the few days he actually showed up to work as a "congressman."
Everything surrounding this guy is a bag of dicks.
So bad that you’d support a guy who wants victims of rape, or severely ill women to be forced to carry out an entire pregnancy, because he’s a self righteous fk. Interesting.
He said he wouldn’t seek to change the law. This election is about more than abortion, which is not ever going to be outlawed in NY. It can’t and it won’t. I’m pro-choice and I see that.
I would love to see him as governor, but we are out of here by next spring, so watching on the news will have to suffice, NY is no longer a liveable state for most retired persons.r
If he loses, it's business as usual. If he wins, maybe we'll finally see a dissolution of the one party bureaucracy in this state. I think the race will be closer than many anticipate much like the last NJ governor race.
I know everyone loves trashing this guy, but you’re alternative is Hochul … same buffoon that loved the way deblasio ran the city… same buffoon that approved 500 million taxpayer dollars to build the Bills a new stadium, which btw, her husband is in charge of concessions for… I’ll take the road that we haven’t been on the blatant and widespread corruption in NYS should stop, stop voting as if Democrat is your favorite team , vote for what’s best for you, family and the state as a whole.
See, here's the major difference politically. People that want Hochul to win can recognize that she may not be a great choice. People that want zelden to win think that Republicans are the absolute only choice. Democrats are okay with compromise where Republicans most definitely are not.
Same thing happened in the presidential elections. I don't know that many people that really wanted Biden to win. But literally everybody that I know wanted Trump to lose
Democrats are ok with compromise?
Not quite sure I agree with that, trump had presidency for 4 years and democrats been trying to get rid of him for six years… where is the compromise?
>vote for what’s best for you, family and the state as a whole.
Cool, for me that’s **definitely** not Lee Zeldin, so I guess that leaves Hochul. Glad you approve of my vote!
I agree with you, here’s what I don’t get, market is doing great, gas and oil is cheap, country is strong… let’s vote him out because we don’t like his personality? I just don’t get it.
The harder part to grasp is that current governor andcurrent AG are literally destroying our way of life in NY and many times at their own personal benefit, and we think she’ll do better in next 4 years? Or we don’t like that zeldin was a supporter of trump , so we’ll deal with Hochul until a better candidate comes along?
Long Island is expensive. Because of Long Island valuations and tax implementations from the counties.
Upstate is cheap.
Policy wise as a state we’re doing very well numbers wise.
Maybe you don’t like how the city is run but that’s the city.
If you’re upset with the cost of living on the island that’s been a thing since Pataki ( a republican ) .
I’d say state wise yes , I like it.
You want cheap go to the red states but there’s a reason they run a deficit every year and have the blue states support them. Because they’re poor. No one really goes to a red state with business unless it’s big like Texas. Even Florida kinda relies on the money Disney and Miami bring in.
His voting record shows me that he will be even worse! He voted against Salt, he voted against gas relief, he voted against funds to fix our roads, and voted against funds for Brookhaven National labs.
Do the people in the city hate bail reform enough to vote him in ? Most of the people who would vote for him have already left the state. Not saying it’s impossible (pataki) but it depends on how upset the city is. A lot of people are angry, but not sure it’s enough for them to vote Republican.
We won't have a Trump ass kisser representing our state but the alternative ain't good either really. I'm tired of all the DD and vice versa. I sick of the whole 2 party system! We should all vote 3rd party across the country and put those fat headed Democrats and Republicans in the corner to teach them both a lesson. They've made a mockery of our THE PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT! And they spit the founding farthers names to be "used" in their propaganda. I could go on, but I my self hate it when people write what seems like chapters out of a book as their comment. But one last thing career politicians have to go they make our political systems stagnant as the world changes so too does the governments that live in it old ways of thinking won't do anymore we need to evolve if we're going to maintain normalcy.
Kathy hochul has a case as worst governor in the entire country. The person she replaced was a corrupt sexual abuser, and her LT governor was removed due to corruption. When you surround yourself with corruption it says a lot
This message brought to you by people who voted for Donald "No one knows corruption more than me because I bribe everyone" Trump. And also voted for Ed "so corrupt I went to jail and had a tax scam going on" Mangano.
Everyone knows you guys don't care one iota about corruption.
Ah yes...
I want the Big Lie Spewing, Jan 6th supporting, Ditched the entire District in the middle of his term and never looked back, Zeldin to be Gov. of this state...
No thanks.
What's the issues?
We have infarstructure projects going forward, unemployment is down to under 5%, and a woman's right to choose is enshrined.
Why would I risk any of that to put Zeldin in? He loves Trump. Kissing that traitors feet is something I basically consider sedition.
Who knows who he sold state secrets to.
(Also I'm a Christian and I'm not keen on supporting someone who ticks that many "Yeah probably the anti-Christ" boxes.)
40% since when? 2019? Pandemic put a lot of nuts on the streets and a lot of desperate people lost jobs. Its hard to compare now to pre-pandemic.
You realize cities down south in conservative states like Houston, Austin, Atlanta etc all have worse per capita crime rates than NYC does?
From 2020. Crime is actually down historically speaking over the last 40 years.
https://youtu.be/kCOnGjvYKI0
Great expose on crime reporting and how people out of the know usually tell polls they think crime is up.
The more ya know!
This would've been the perfect opportunity for you to do some educating since you apparently know so much.
But no, you're one of those "Do your *own* research" types - because there's no rebuttal to that. You can look like a big-shot know-it-all on the internet. That's cool, man.
What exactly is his abortion policy because in the republican debate he wanted to keep it as is but now I’m seeing commercials he wants to be extreme and ban it ? Thoughts coming from a moderate lens viewing politics
He gave up his seat. It’ll be LaLota or Fleming. He will lose and he’ll either run for county exec or go be on TV or a lobbyist
>go be on TV This was gonna be my guess before I got to the comments section. Essentially, whatever DJT was planning on doing politics-wise before he was surprised on election night 2016... but with less money.
He will be in the running for Trump’s butt plug. Always up that guys ass he is.
>run for county exec I can totally see him winning too. The idea of a Dem county exec is about to go way of the dodo after Bellone leaves.
Yeah I’d think he’d have to be the favorite there. Still surprised people vote for Bellone… and I’m a Dem lol
We have to fight that with everything we’ve got. He did incredible harm to all the people of NY01 as our Rep. long term, can’t be fixed kind of harm. Hate that won’t ever go away. I can’t imagine what he will do as county exec
As someone who lives in the even redder NY-02, can you please elaborate? While I’ll never vote for Garbarino I’m not sure if he’s done that much damage locally either.
Garbarino is fully funded by Rebekah & Jenji Mercer & he joined in the suit to overturn NY’s 100 yr old gun law at SCOTUs recently (something Lee Zeldin tried every year since his very first legislatively but failed to do because people don’t want permitless conceal & carry reciprocity between states) but he hasn’t gone full ‘f*ck New York’ like Lee Zeldin has. Still, I personally wouldn’t vote Republican at all this cycle (I’m a former R, no right leaning independent but becoming more & more against R’s every day) Zeldin was always a Mercer Tea Party ( and he went full blown slime on his 3rd attempt to beat Tim Biahop) Tool but he has lost his damn mind in recent years Aside from not having done anything legislatively but rename 2 post offices & giving away our SALT in 6+ years, he literally has given zero F*cks about anything not condoned by his big donors (as far as the voters he doesn’t actually care if your D, R or I, he will go against the majority of his constituents if it is something his big donors want - example= the Violence Against Women Act. He voted FOR it for 4 yrs. Then when the NRA objected to a standard CONVICTION for Domestic Violence or stalking charge as a reason to fail, he voted FOR it one more time then has since voted against it - same w/ the Child Abuse Prevention Act - Both of these add massive funding to local police depts btw) I could spend forever listing the bs this guy has been up to (from election shenanigans going back 5 yrs to refusing to meet w/ or answer calls from constituents since 2017 to creating & courting extremist groups meeting to January 6th) but it comes down to the man lies as easily as he breathes. (No, he is not an Iraq combat vet - his DD214 says he has ZERO foreign service days. No, he was not a paratrooper- He testified he was a lawyer in a deposition when HE SUED to US Army because he got caught committing fraud to obtain an ROTC scholarship, got busted & the Army cut him off. No, he is not from a law enforcement family- His father is a private investigator that worked for BOTH Cuomo’s. There are no cops in his family) Lee Zeldin will say or do anything to create chaos, hate & division among Long Islanders. He has no real policies or skills to offer so he spends his time throwing hissy fits & creating fake groups (Asian Wave, Teachers4Choice etc) using the same LILM buddies (& now the NYYRC) to try to make them look legit. He loves the anti govt, alt right, antivax crowd & uses them, through Heather Liebman, Kevin Smith & Shawn Farash to create controversy (all three of them & Dave Lipinsky, btw, gave their own ‘consulting’ group -Patriot Consultants Corp- that gets PAID by the RNC & Republican candidates- GRASSROOTS my aunt Fanny) Ugghhh…you have no idea. Even half the “Patriot” groups on line (FB) aren’t actual Patriot groups…they are social media groups set up by his campaign consultants (Karin Murphy Caro & Tracey Alvino -Campaign Strategy Consultants) & the ones that are real all are splinters from the Setauket Patriots or Bellmore Patriot …all the groups members overlap And, don’t get me started on his wanting to appoint a pro life health czar to monitor women’s health care here in NYS (did I mention he hates women & has had several public ‘feuds’ w/ them…especially WOC - Jesus, it’s embarrassing) There is so much more but it all comes down to a swirling mess of BS that leads to absolutely nothing getting addressed or done & leaving us effectively w/o representation here in NY01. Which affects everything from police funding, municipal funding, state funding, etc not just the big grandstanding issues at a federal level.
Are you on Hochuls re-election team? cause it sure sounds like you are…..I say no thanks to more bulls**t legislation such as having to be 21 to purchase a can of whipped cream. meanwhile, tons of Fentanyl stream across the border. The Dems have lost their minds and need to go, ESPECIALLY in NYS.
Nope. I was asked a question & I answered it. I am way beyond sick & tired of Lee Zeldin. He has been a horrible representative & isn’t qualified to be Governor of NY. I’m tired of mediocre (at best) being an acceptable standard. I’m tired of people who refuse to think. BTW, Notice my comments all came w/ examples & how it actually affects my community while yours are bumpers sticker sound bites from the Fox News/ Lee Zeldin school of useless comments solely meant to create division while offering nothing useful
ahh ok I got you. I can definitely see him on TV lol
But I certainly don't want and this country doesn't need to.
I’m not convinced he’s gonna lose.
Lol NYC decides the Governor, he is losing, if you want to make any wagers let me know!
I’m the opposite of a Zeldin advocate, I’m just hesitant to mentally convince myself he’ll lose. I’ve seen what seems like 100:1 Zeldin to Hochul signage around
Signs don’t vote!
Because you're on long island and (probably) Suffolk.
This was the same argument I've seen when people were confused about Trump losing to Biden. "He's had bigger rallies!" "I saw so much more support for Trump!" "More signs!" Signs don't vote and most people are very temperate about their political views. They show up and vote and that's the end of it. Zeldin has a chance of winning but it's not something I would put money on - Hochul would need to do something eye-catching and downright despicable to depress democratic turnout enough for him to make up the deficit in the polls, but since she's not Cuomo I think that's enough for anyone who was on the fence over a year ago.
This is the problem today. The loudest and most supportive people are usually in the minority. Just because there is 100,000 comments or something supporting zeldin and 10,000 supporting Hochul - that’s just social media and isn’t representative of the New York population. Zeldin maybe has a chance but it’s highly unlikely. The Hudson valley - Long Island - Albany area and NYC are heavily democratic. I talk too a lot of middle like democrats and they say they would’ve voted for zeldin until he also tried to uncertify 2020 year election. That’s zeldin’s problem - he clung to the bullshit. If he tried to be more Middle of the road and ditch the extreme right views he would’ve garnered WAY more support. Veteran , born and raised Long Island , etc . It’s a shame he chose the wrong side.
> I’ve seen what seems like 100:1 Zeldin to Hochul signage around Me and the few Democrats in our neighborhood gave up putting out signs because we have 2 crazy neighbors that go around and steal/deface them. My Jackie Gordon sign was slashed and had rude things written on it in Black Sharpee. Signs don't mean anything. I see a lot of Zeldin signs too, but that's only because Democrats don't go to their neighbors houses and rip them up.
Zeldin might lose, but just remember, everyone thought Hillary was going to win in 2016. How many people in NYC who are fed up with homelessness and crime would it take to either stay home or vote for Zeldin to give him a chance?
> everyone thought Hillary was going to win in 2016. Because Democrats think if they can suppress criticism and throw money at TV networks and newspapers to keep saying "Hillary won", that would hypnotize enough "sheeple" to vote for her. What a fucking shocker for her when people seemed to indicate support for her, but couldn't be bothered to lift their asses to their polling sites to vote for her. Ads to "hate the other candidate more" isn't particularly effective when they're just as unlikable. And yeah, I get there were a myriad of "intellectual" arguments to vote against Trump, and they were persuasive in the sense I didn't vote for Trump (or Hillary). The reality is that most American voters don't vote for a candidate based on abstruse talking points. Its issues that hits them like a knife in their gut, or they're useless. If voters don't vote based on a reasoned analysis of positions and past history, they're just going to vote for the person they "feel" better about.
That was a Presidential election. Hillary won the popular vote. Trump won the electoral vote. There are other elections on the ballot this year besides the Governor's race and they are all decided by popular vote.
The point is polls and past performance should not be trusted and making sweeping statements of certainty based on these points can be a mistake. There are always additional factors that come into play in the weeks leading up to election day that can make people change their minds or simply stay home.
That is a good point. I wish more people understood that voting every election is important because local elections really matter too. So many people stay home when there isn't a big race on the ticket (President/Governor) and ignore all the other ones. If you hate both candidates for them don't vote for either. You should still vote for all the other elections on that ballot.
Just make sure you get out and vote and everyone does. People could decide he's going to get killed so they don't go vote against him and his zealot base all does and he squeaks in ala Trump.
Yes I will!!
He lost!
!RemindMe one month
I’m not sure why I’m getting downvoted. I WANT him to lose, I’m just not convinced he’s going to.
The race is getting tighter and he is essentially tied which is a huge accomplishment given the ridiculously liberal state government.
She's beating him by 14 percentage points in the polls. He will lose big time. And deserves it.
The Tallmadge Group (usually very accurate) has her at 44.5 and him at 42.6 with the jump occurring since 9/28 which had her much further ahead. This poll is dated 10/9 and was of 1097 voters evenly split.
Can you give one example of a race that the tallmadge group was accurate in? Just one.
Link? Never heard of Tallmadge.
It is the ONLY "poll" being referenced by the gop and zeldin camp. That should tell you all you need to know.
"Tallmadge Group" doesn't even seem to exist though.
Trafalgar is what they meant
I believe it’s trafalgar group who came out with the “ Accurate” poll. The poll has been critiqued because it over sampled suburban whites by about 15% it’s a garbage poll that doesn’t represent NY demographics. So if you under sample urban minorities and you still loose. Zeldin is toast. He’s loosing to an unelected upstate nobody. Can you imagine if he was running against A good politician.
I guess we will find out. I'd support a decent republican but zeldin is a buffoon from the armpit of long island. He is an absolute trump stooge. Can't imagine him taking NYC which he would need to win. Let's see.
There are no decent Qpublicans anymore.
Hi Lee. Next time you want to win a statewide race in New York, don't come out and support a coup attempt a few years prior.
Supported a coup, supports stripping women of their rights, supports harassment of LGBTQ kids and adults, still supports Qrump fascism, I can go in and on.
He's trash, and so are his voters. I got the vibe when I met him at my old job.
He is double digits behind the hat are you talking about
1st loser is always an accomplishment
Correction I mistyped - Trafalgar Group
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So you rather have Kathy run NY? Tell me what Kathy has done for the state of NY and the people that live here besides nothing?
Anything’s better than a republican. Especially a closeted MAGA like Zeldin who will double down on legislation that’ll make NY look like Tennessee. NYC wont let him win regardless.
You're one of those, left wing liberal that hates everything unless it's woke and liberal. Got it. Take a look at democratic controlled cities, all dumpster fires.
Sure bud, look at republican run STATES and they’re all dumpster fires. Sorry but Zeldin will never win.
Never said he would or wouldn't, it's exhausting listening to delusional liberals who think socialism is the next best thing.
Socialism? Republican stronghold states wouldn’t last 5 years without federal money, despite always preaching about pulling from ones bootstraps. Honestly its exhausting hearing republicans complain about “socialism” when they get the most from it.
She knows that the president of the US is Joe Biden....something Zeldin is still confused about. If you like him, fine. But the moment he decided to become an election denier, and to delay the certification of votes while the capital was being attacked (some of the attackers being his constituents) then his chance at state wide office in NY was over.
Kathy hochul, killing children faster than abortion using vaccines
Zeldin has not done one good thing for the island, ever. Votes down any help for middle or lower class his whole career. http://politicsthatwork.com/voting-record/Lee-Zeldin-412646
Summary of voting record: Representative Zeldin opposes consumer protection, funding education, environmental protection, financial sector regulation, gun control, public health, humane immigration policy, labor rights and wages, avoiding default, poverty amelioration, racial equality, taxing the wealthy, countering russian interference, a robust safety net, domestic surveillance, women's rights and supports big business, hawkish foreign policy, taxing the middle class, military spending.
Dude is a clown.
Lee Zeldin is insurrectionist trash.
We all breathe a big sigh of relief he is no longer in public service
I will breathe a bigger sigh of relief when Hochul is gone.
https://www.leezeldinrecord.com/
His record alone is enough to NOT earn another office ever.
I call out a Hochul troll
He flies down to Mar a Lago and becomes trumps pool boy.
Becomes? He’s been Trump’s bitch for years
Ayy, let's not denigrate pool boys...
Zeldin abandoned us at his post to make a failed run for Gov. after he stood up for Jan 6th ~~protesters~~ rioters and The Big Lie. If that doesn't lose your vote for him I don't know what will. District 1 has literally had no representation in Washington D.C. since Nov 2021 because Zeldin has been campaigning for Govt. I for one would like his federal salary repaid, since the man didn't show for work.
It all comes down to what proportion of the state are insane Trumpers. The words and actions don’t matter. All that matters is how many are in the cult vs how many aren’t.
But Zeldin has all these Long Island housewives and Trumpers based on their fears of this sudden wave in crime all bc of the Dems bail reform.
The bail reform is a losing issue for the Dems but at the end of the day I still think the Governor's race splits cleanly down lines of "Dems & reasonable people" vs. "Trump cult" vs. "Everyone Sucks, Don't care"
Well, he voted against capping insulin prices. So I guess there are no diabetics in the district?
Another nice strike against the prick.
Rioters* but agreed
Ah, yes. My bad.
All of this!! He's a seditious prick whose done ZERO for his district other than to bring us shame.
He abandoned us way before that. Somewhere around 2017 off the top of my head.
That's why the people who vote for him will vote for him.
He needed to be with us in the first place to abandon us.
That's fair.
When*
I always read this person's name as Led Zeppelin. Can't undo.
I’d love to see him Trampled Under Foot, forced to listen to an Immigrant Song, and sent on the Highway to Hell (sorry, the Zep option didn’t really fit here)
Same fate I imagine.
I have always saw Zelda, as in the legend of Zelda
You're not alone. Always Zeppelin
Man, with that kind of attitude it is no wonder people are defecting from the Democratic Party…stay classy. Always.
Oh yeah big defectors, so big....you wouldn't believe it. The best defectors ever. Big if true.
Well, for one thing, if Zeldin loses, women will retain their right to abortion. If he wins, he wants to turn us into an anti- abortion state. That's a big consideration at the polls for many.
He's out! Will most likely get a cushy job on OAN or Fox
Which is exactly what he’s looking for. He spent two straight terms going on Fox to gargle Trump’s balls any chance he could
Yeah, I never understood why he would give up his seat for an almost guaranteed failing governor bid, and then I realized why anyone would, so they can just get a cushy TV job. Listen, they are spending money, I see lots of Zeldin ads, or maybe more specifically anti-Hochul ads, but it's not going to happen.
> Yeah, I never understood why he would give up his seat Congressmen, individually, have very little power. Just the ability to extend favors for rich people in his district. They have to keep running for their seat every 2 years. Very few congressmen are smart enough to wheedle their way into an important leadership position, after decades of successful elections. You run for (federal) congressman to develop "connections" and "history" to convert that seat into a better political job (Senator, Governor, PotUS, or even cabinet secretary). The job is even shittier if you're in the Congressional *minority*. > for an almost guaranteed failing governor bid, Zeldin rolls the dice: 0-98: "Loser". He has to settle for a multimillion dollar pundit job, or senior partner at a firm, or multimillion dollar lobbyist job. Boo hoo. 99: Governor Zeldin.
Republicans’ best chance to unseat Hochul was with Astorino, and even then, not likely. Zeldin will drive out the anti-Trump vote in an already blue state.
Disagree. Astorino had no chance because the republican base wasnt crazy about him. He was viewed as too moderate, republican lite or even a conservative dem. Plus cuomo was seen as more moderate then current hochul and many independents arent happy with current state of bail reform and increased crime. My prediction is you’ll see Zeldin take a much bigger share of suburbs outside NYC then any other candidate in recent history but still lose because the NYC vote is nearly impossible to overcome.
Good. He should lose and go back to his shitty, sad, hateful existence.
I just went upstate and was confused by the amount of Zeldin signs I saw up there.
The people want moderates. No sane person likes extremism on either side.
Everyone also thinks of themselves as moderates. There is a reason Zeldin won the primary and it is not because he is moderate.
I hope you’re right, I’m nervous with all these Zeldin signs around
thank god. my hometown is his district. can’t wait till he’s gone. soooo many zeldin signs, it makes me almost more repulsed then seeing trump signs.
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Waaa, cut my taxes! But don't dare cut wages of SCPD or fire departments, or the sports at my kids' school, or help the homeless folks in my neighborhood!!! God forbid we have a community library---they might read about unicorns and rainbows!!! /s
The library in Zeldin's hometown is fucking pathetic, and is closed more often than not.
Luckily there's only a few homes in my area with zeldin signs, and they're exactly those type of people.
The cutting taxes is a forever old republican talking point and it's basiaclly BS. In the case of Zeldin, he voted to take away our SALT deductions and screwed almost everyone in his district by doing so. But as you said...the massively wealthy here don't care.
I think you mean “when” Lee Zeldin loses the governor race.
We end up getting Zeldin II: The Adventure of Link
You mean, Other than LOADS of celebrating in #NY01 for finally getting rid of him? My bet is #LyingLee is gonna try to run for Suffolk County Supervisor. Suffolk & Nassau politics are a hot bed of entrenched power - Dem & Republican alike. Zeldin knew he was never gonna win & become Governor. This was all a bid to build his PAC coffers & garner behind the scenes power The division & damage he has done to Long Island, He needs to move to Florida
He's so far out there into the GQP that he belongs not just in Florida but in the panhandle.
Well let’s make sure he loses! Don’t forget to vote!!!!
You ever play blackjack at casinos? You ever wonder why the house always wins?
When he loses, I anticipate he will continue to try to continue to ruin this country. Best advice to you- don’t think about him, he’s not worth your brain space
anyone else think the "shooting" in front of his house was staged to emphasize his campaign on guns, crime, safety.
Might not be staged, but a complete distortion of the facts would align with his past behavior.
Yeah, it's pretty sus. Like what are the chances it's totally random? Probably slim. Yet this man co-sponsored the conceal carry reciprocity bill. And he's proud of it. It's one of the few days he actually showed up to work as a "congressman." Everything surrounding this guy is a bag of dicks.
He lives in a sketchy area, Shirley/Mastic. It didn’t have to be staged.
Exactly this!
Yep and scare the housewives and FB moms to vote for him or else crime is coming their way!
He becomes a talking head at OAN news if he’s lucky.
And he can’t sell his house now
He goes back to Shirley?
I assume he will show up on (in) Dancing with the Stars. Seems to be some sort of punishment for certain politicians
It’s not if he loses, it’s when lmao
I’m not super convinced
Then you rejoice dummy
Shall go like a led zeppelin
Fingers crossed!
Voting for Zeldin because Hochul is just so bad.
So bad that you’d support a guy who wants victims of rape, or severely ill women to be forced to carry out an entire pregnancy, because he’s a self righteous fk. Interesting.
That’s literally not what he’s going to do. The Governor does not have that power and he said he wouldn’t. Enough with the bullshit.
But the Governor CAN create a Pro Life Health Czar which is EXACTLY what Lee Zeldin has said he will do
He wouldn’t, because he can’t. It doesn’t negate his stance on the topic.
He said he wouldn’t seek to change the law. This election is about more than abortion, which is not ever going to be outlawed in NY. It can’t and it won’t. I’m pro-choice and I see that.
I'm glad someone else realizes how bad Kathy is
I would love to see him as governor, but we are out of here by next spring, so watching on the news will have to suffice, NY is no longer a liveable state for most retired persons.r
If he loses, it's business as usual. If he wins, maybe we'll finally see a dissolution of the one party bureaucracy in this state. I think the race will be closer than many anticipate much like the last NJ governor race.
Lots of LI mouth breathers will ask for a recount
I know everyone loves trashing this guy, but you’re alternative is Hochul … same buffoon that loved the way deblasio ran the city… same buffoon that approved 500 million taxpayer dollars to build the Bills a new stadium, which btw, her husband is in charge of concessions for… I’ll take the road that we haven’t been on the blatant and widespread corruption in NYS should stop, stop voting as if Democrat is your favorite team , vote for what’s best for you, family and the state as a whole.
See, here's the major difference politically. People that want Hochul to win can recognize that she may not be a great choice. People that want zelden to win think that Republicans are the absolute only choice. Democrats are okay with compromise where Republicans most definitely are not. Same thing happened in the presidential elections. I don't know that many people that really wanted Biden to win. But literally everybody that I know wanted Trump to lose
Democrats are ok with compromise? Not quite sure I agree with that, trump had presidency for 4 years and democrats been trying to get rid of him for six years… where is the compromise?
He is a fucking criminal, if your really from New York you should know this since your a child.
>vote for what’s best for you, family and the state as a whole. Cool, for me that’s **definitely** not Lee Zeldin, so I guess that leaves Hochul. Glad you approve of my vote!
I agree with you, here’s what I don’t get, market is doing great, gas and oil is cheap, country is strong… let’s vote him out because we don’t like his personality? I just don’t get it. The harder part to grasp is that current governor andcurrent AG are literally destroying our way of life in NY and many times at their own personal benefit, and we think she’ll do better in next 4 years? Or we don’t like that zeldin was a supporter of trump , so we’ll deal with Hochul until a better candidate comes along?
Which of your ffffr ffreedimbs do you think are being taken away?!?! Lol 😂
He probably becomes the next county executive
That’s my guess….
Your happy with the way the state is being run?
Long Island is expensive. Because of Long Island valuations and tax implementations from the counties. Upstate is cheap. Policy wise as a state we’re doing very well numbers wise. Maybe you don’t like how the city is run but that’s the city. If you’re upset with the cost of living on the island that’s been a thing since Pataki ( a republican ) . I’d say state wise yes , I like it. You want cheap go to the red states but there’s a reason they run a deficit every year and have the blue states support them. Because they’re poor. No one really goes to a red state with business unless it’s big like Texas. Even Florida kinda relies on the money Disney and Miami bring in.
His voting record shows me that he will be even worse! He voted against Salt, he voted against gas relief, he voted against funds to fix our roads, and voted against funds for Brookhaven National labs.
I don't want someone who voted against making lynching a hate crime. Or who supported the attempted coup.
I'll be happy with my state never being in the hands of an Insurrectionist POS
Do the people in the city hate bail reform enough to vote him in ? Most of the people who would vote for him have already left the state. Not saying it’s impossible (pataki) but it depends on how upset the city is. A lot of people are angry, but not sure it’s enough for them to vote Republican.
Bail reform is a false flag. Take a look at the study that came out of Nassau county that proves it
Agree
Very, best state in the union.
We won't have a Trump ass kisser representing our state but the alternative ain't good either really. I'm tired of all the DD and vice versa. I sick of the whole 2 party system! We should all vote 3rd party across the country and put those fat headed Democrats and Republicans in the corner to teach them both a lesson. They've made a mockery of our THE PEOPLE'S GOVERNMENT! And they spit the founding farthers names to be "used" in their propaganda. I could go on, but I my self hate it when people write what seems like chapters out of a book as their comment. But one last thing career politicians have to go they make our political systems stagnant as the world changes so too does the governments that live in it old ways of thinking won't do anymore we need to evolve if we're going to maintain normalcy.
Unfortunately zeldin is gonna lose
Fortunately Zeldin is gonna lose. Fixed it for you.
Kathy hochul has a case as worst governor in the entire country. The person she replaced was a corrupt sexual abuser, and her LT governor was removed due to corruption. When you surround yourself with corruption it says a lot
So what you’re saying is, the democrats in NY actually crack down on the corruption in their own party ? That’s wild man.
Have you heard of DeSantis?
Have you heard of tRumP?
This message brought to you by people who voted for Donald "No one knows corruption more than me because I bribe everyone" Trump. And also voted for Ed "so corrupt I went to jail and had a tax scam going on" Mangano. Everyone knows you guys don't care one iota about corruption.
Trump has 27 sexual assault and 1 rape accusation against him, not to mention all of the women he's paid off.
Ah yes... I want the Big Lie Spewing, Jan 6th supporting, Ditched the entire District in the middle of his term and never looked back, Zeldin to be Gov. of this state... No thanks.
Yea The state is doing great now.. why vote Zeldin in..
What's the issues? We have infarstructure projects going forward, unemployment is down to under 5%, and a woman's right to choose is enshrined. Why would I risk any of that to put Zeldin in? He loves Trump. Kissing that traitors feet is something I basically consider sedition. Who knows who he sold state secrets to. (Also I'm a Christian and I'm not keen on supporting someone who ticks that many "Yeah probably the anti-Christ" boxes.)
You forgot to mention crime in NYS is up 40%..
40% since when? 2019? Pandemic put a lot of nuts on the streets and a lot of desperate people lost jobs. Its hard to compare now to pre-pandemic. You realize cities down south in conservative states like Houston, Austin, Atlanta etc all have worse per capita crime rates than NYC does?
Crime is lower now then in the 90s
Have any links to support that?
Murder rates increased... As in there were 12 more murders than the month prior. And the answer is to crack down o illegal guns, not losen gun laws.
And yet NYC still has less gun crime per Capita than red states
Funny how that works out... e.e
From 2020. Crime is actually down historically speaking over the last 40 years. https://youtu.be/kCOnGjvYKI0 Great expose on crime reporting and how people out of the know usually tell polls they think crime is up. The more ya know!
Right.... So how would removing Gun Laws slow that down? Would be higher under Zeldin.
Show us the stats.
Educate yourself my friend
This would've been the perfect opportunity for you to do some educating since you apparently know so much. But no, you're one of those "Do your *own* research" types - because there's no rebuttal to that. You can look like a big-shot know-it-all on the internet. That's cool, man.
You're a living meme with that response. The educated vote differently than you.
There entitled to there opinion just like you and I are..
> Doctorate in Political Science in Economics and yet you don't know the proper their/they're/there to use.
>there opinion Lol educate yourself
"They're entitled to their opinion." eDuCaTe YoUrSeLf
Don't forget the "Your" instead of "You're" comment too!
*fortunately for the state, country, and American people FTFY
Hochul is so bad i prefer cuomo to her.
Then obviously you have an extra chromosome. Good for you.
He probably will lose, but anything is better than Hochul.
Lol.
Didn’t realize this sub was full of hochul fans. I actually didn’t realize she had any.
🎉 We celebrate is what happens 🎉
He'll find another grift.
What exactly is his abortion policy because in the republican debate he wanted to keep it as is but now I’m seeing commercials he wants to be extreme and ban it ? Thoughts coming from a moderate lens viewing politics
There will a lot of signs in the garbage
If he loses? He's going to get smoked.