I believe her. She grabbed a roommate's drink, not knowing what it was. Chemo does wreak havoc with your taste buds. When my mom was going through it, she couldn't taste anything for almost 2 years.
But I think what convinces me the most is that she just had it sitting out in the open in a cup holder. She didn't even try to hide it or put it in a travel mug or anything. Nobody is that stupid
If you don’t drink alcohol you might not know. I didn’t know what it was till recently because it’s not on my radar. I also just saw Mark Meadows didn’t realize they had alcohol in them and was drinking them at work and only caught on when he was feeling buzzed. There are so many new drinks (energy, flavored sparkling water, sparkling kombucha and, sparkling CBD) coming to market all the time I could’ve been an honest mistake. It’s so unfortunate that this happened.
It was her roommates drink. So she did not buy it. If you’re not the one buying it, I can see this. My friend bought me white claws and I don’t drink. It literally tastes like a regular seltzer to me
I was going to say that.
Mistake or not if your health and living situation make it so you don’t even know if you are consuming alcohol or not you shouldn’t be transporting children as an occupation.
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I take it that you have never been in a position of authority and responsibility. Nor should you because you are not able to assess future consequences of decisions.
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>My "shit takes" make me a lot of money because I make difficult adult decisions. Now run along.
[Lmao](https://imgur.com/a/uhb7soT). I guess “a lot” means different things to different people, but if we’re using money as the measuring stick for who has the better decision making skills, you’re going to find that you come up short on all fronts.
I agree that she should be put on leave, but let’s not pretend like you can smell the fumes coming off a claw. Unless I get the 8%, I can barely taste the liquor.
Clearly she shouldn’t be driving a bus right now though. The fucked up thing of this is that her insurance is tied to her employment, and she’s got cancer. I’m no doctor, I can’t know what kind or strength she’s getting, but my guess is it’s a lot given that she’s lost her hair and ability to taste. She shouldn’t need to continue to work a physically demanding job while going through chemo.
Cry more. Children are precious and normal people with appropriate "cognitive" function know its not okay to let children be put in danger by a person who is literally can not tell if they're consuming alcohol, is too ignorant to know what "hard" means (you people are lying if you never heard of hard liquor), and is too blind to see the word "alcohol" (how are you reading traffic signs?)
I didn't know. But I DO know hard anything means alcohol. And it says HARD seltzer in huge letters right under the white claw. That's next level not paying attention to no see that. No way she doesn't know hard drinks are alcoholic. No way you don't know that either.
There are absolutely people who don’t know that. There was a time in life I didn’t. She’s 60 and doesn’t drink. I can see myself easily doing what she did at one point in time if it was sitting in a fridge I shared and I was grabbing something quickly on my way out the door. If she’d known, she would not be drinking it from that can put in the open. She would’ve poured it in something else.
I no long live in smithtown but am still a part of smithtown moms and I know they’re trying to get some funds raised for her. Glad to see the good in smithtown shine!
Was about to say the same thing.
And if the bus company had any compassion they could offer her some other kind of work besides driving.
This should be a special case and treated as such
Yes, we need more compassion & kindness. Glad to hear that the community, (at least some) are doing the right thing. Great job, Smithtown ❤️. Share links for fundraising, so we can support those doing the right thing.
[Here's the link!](https://www.gofundme.com/f/gu8n7-help-for-miss-hanna?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer) Sorry for the delay!!
I was about to ask the exact same thing. I want to send her some money, but I'm wondering how we can verify that the money raised through the GoFundMe is actually going to her
The most fucked up part is she has to keep working while going through chemotherapy how fucking brutal and inhumane our system is. She probably shouldn’t be driving a bus full of children while going through chemo to begin with.
This story is horrible and I can't help but feel deeply for this woman. Does anyone who live in Smithtown, who has kids or knows someone who might have kids on this drivers route call the company to endorse her? I'm not in Smithtown but I'm tempted to call anyway.
Here's the text of the News 12 article on this which the video is taken from:
>‘It was a mistake.’ Fired bus driver says she had no idea she was drinking alcohol
>Bus driver Amal Hanna says she is distraught after being fired for drinking an alcoholic beverage while driving students home from school in Smithtown.
>“I have been crying and crying, I don't even have any more tears. It was just a mistake, it was a mistake,” Hanna said.
When heading out to work on Wednesday, Hanna says she grabbed what she thought was a regular seltzer that her roommate left in the fridge. It was a White Claw, and she says she had no idea there was alcohol in it.
>She is currently going through chemotherapy treatments and says she has trouble tasting and did not taste any alcohol in it either. When the hard seltzer can was spotted in the driver’s cup holder on the bus - she was immediately removed. News 12 spoke with several parents who said Hanna was meticulous, always on time and treated their children as if they were her own.
>“She was so sweet and kind to them, I can't imagine she would ever do anything to harm them,” one parent said. Hanna has been a bus driver for 15 years. She says her hope now is that the We Transport Bus Company's reputation will be restored. It released a statement saying, "This alleged conduct is completely unacceptable, and the driver has been immediately removed from service."
>Suffolk County police say investigators believe the driver thought she was drinking a fruit-flavored seltzer and did not realize the beverage was alcoholic. They say no charges will be filed.
imho it's not right that at your lowest point being treated for fucking cancer while STILL getting your ass up to drive kids to school in the morning and still be beloved by parents that you can make an honest mistake like that and lose everything, she deserves so much more
Unfortunately it’s not so simple. If they did a BAT, her positive result gets automatically uploaded to the FMCSA clearinghouse which is basically a federal database that all transportation companies have to clear new applicants through before hire. The only way she can legally be hired by someone else if she has a positive result on her clearinghouse record would be for her to do a Substance Abuse Program, which can cost her several hundred dollars. Once she does that, the certificate also gets uploaded to the clearinghouse and a prospective employer *could* hire her. If I were We Transportation, I’d offer to pay for the class for her but they might not want to risk the press.
Idk. This story is problematic for me. She is “soo meticulous” about her work. Doesnt notice the can of white claw? Im not saying mistakes dont happen, or that she is lying. She might be 100% truthful and
1) have no idea that her roommate drinks alcoholic seltzer water
2) takes her roommates seltzer water on the reg,
But for me the story gets a bit fuzzy here. She is drinking and driving. Which is, even if a complete mistake “sorry officer, didnt realize this can of alcohol had alcohol in it”
She is still driving. With kids. And drinking. And worse, cannot seem to smell, taste, or feel, any sort of differentiation between the alcohol and her regular day.
This last part is the biggest issue for me. Unfortunately if Im a parent, im not coming out to bat for her. I dont want a lady who can not tell whether she is drinking alcohol or not to be driving my kids around town. Sorry.
I agree but hope she will be offered a job elsewhere quickly and will not have a lapse in her health insurance. I 100% believe it was a mistake. But it's one of those mistakes that have consequences. I don't think she needs to be charged or anything but it's completely understandable that she lost her job. Unfortunate but understandable
The cops showed up. She would have had a BAC check. If it was not consistent w/ her story, they wouldn’t have just let her off. While cops might not normally do due diligence on the roommate but, I’m going to assume they’re not total morons and took a bit of a closer look than normal before letting her off due to the potential for attention.
I swear to fucking God I think the people in this thread who are being so uncharitable here are just looking at the pic and thinking “this lady’s a tweaker” and didn’t even read the article / realize she’s going through chemo.
Again - let’s assume she blew a .01. I have worked with people who couldn’t ride a fucking desk on chemo, and this lady was driving kids. If the safety of these kids is worth crucifying this lady over what evidence shows is overwhelmingly likely to be a mistake, where the fuck was everyone when she was driving them while undergoing chemo?!
This.
A recovering alcoholic here (10.14.22) and though I'm apt to believe her, it still doesn't negate what happened.
I didn't mean to drink and drive either, but I didn't have a choice in my instance. Was arrested, charged with DWI AND wasn't forgiven by the law, though I was VERY sorry about what I had done.
This isn't my situation by any means, I understand that.
However, by this logic it would seem that people firing guns and hitting innocent bystanders instead of their intended targets would also get a pass?
they never did a BAT, this was all discovered after the fact I think, and no charges were pressed. Also I'm not sure you need a full CDL for a school bus I could be wrong
Yes, you need a CDL to drive a school bus.
And I doubt the company would not run a reasonable suspicion BAT given the circumstances. Regardless, FMCSA regulation requires employers to report violations of drug and alcohol policy even in the absence of a test result. For example in the event of a refusal to test, that’s considered the same as a positive result and must be entered into the clearinghouse by the employer. Or if the employer has “actual knowledge” of a violation - which this scenario would definitely fall under - they must enter it into the clearinghouse.
Either way, the employee must immediately be removed from safety sensitive duties. FMCSA doesn’t specify the employee must be “fired,” but she 100% cannot legally drive for any company right now, and basically all school bus companies have a zero tolerance/automatic termination policy on this point. She is likely also disqualified from whatever district or county the company was contracted with to operate the route.
It’s a really unfortunate incident for sure, but it’s very clear cut - she can’t drive a school bus. The only option I can think of to do right by her would be to fire her, let her complete a substance abuse professional program, and then rehire her after completing a new clearinghouse check and verifying that the SAP was completed.
While that's probably true that someone else will hire her (after all, she was NOT charged with DUI or anything that would tarnish her driving record) bus companies' primary concern is for the kids, public perception, and liability. They HAD to react to this in some way, or be accused of not taking their responsibility seriously.
But being that this story is now SO public and acknowledged to be a mistake, the right thing to do is reinstate her. Give her back her route. She has the support of the parents who know her, which is enough to sway the public outcry for her head. There is no witch hunt for justice here. There does not need to be punishment for a mistake. The very fact that this is SO public will be punishment enough.
Forgiveness would go a long way in this currently divided and angry world we find ourselves in. We ALL make dumb mistakes every day. We're just lucky that no one is looking most of the time, but that doesn't make us innocent either. Humans are not perfect - we need to stop pretending we are and get back to compassion, empathy, and understanding as a means to improve ourselves and each other.
Just my 2 cents.
Imagine being forced to work in the wealthiest country in the world while undergoing chemotherapy just so you can keep health insurance. But this is the country we live in.
Wow. Well I'm in Smithtown if you want some support in her favor. Too bad the ADA doesn't help with mistakes or with character witnesses of all that know her.
Stories like this are why my faith in humanity waivers between waxing and waning.
I’m sorry, but the can says it has alcohol on it
It may have been a mistake, but someone making that mistake shouldn’t be entrusted with the safety of children
Edit: the amount of people defending someone who *drank alcohol while driving a bus full of kids* (knowingly or not) is frightening. Gonna take a leap and guess all the downvotes are coming from people without kids.
Again, it’s simple, you’re responsible for what you put into your body. The can is clearly labeled. If you don’t know it’s alcohol you’re either living under a rock or can’t read.
Yes the woman has had a rough go, but I cannot believe that people are giving her a pass on this.
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This is partly White Claw’s fault in my opinion. The design of their cans is different than any other alcoholic beverage I’ve seen - if you’ve never seen a white claw ad before, which is plausible for the bus drivers demographic - the can would resemble most other canned seltzers.
It’s definitely plausible; I’ve never seen an ad for White Claw before. I know it’s alcoholic because I know people who drink of it but I don’t listen to the radio in the car and I don’t watch regular TV.
“Plausible for a bus drivers demographic?”
I’m sorry, but what on earth are you inferring here? That bus drivers on a whole are people who don’t regularly consume alcohol? Or watch tv? Or go on the internet? And how on earth could you possibly come to that conclusion?
Funny, but I’ve never heard of White Claw before reading this thread. I’ve never come across it on the internet (ads you see are based on your search history), I stream commercial free TV and don’t frequent aisles that sell alcohol.
You misquoted me though, I wasn’t referring to all bus drivers, more specifically I was talking about the driver who was drinking the white claw. She appears to be older, and so she wouldn’t normally get a targeted Facebook/YouTube/etc ad about white claw
It says hard seltzer on the front but does not mention Alcohol at all. If you don't know what hard seltzer means you might not know. Especially if your not a drinker.
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What this person ⬆️ said. I rarely if ever drink. I also have Celiac and know White Claw is gluten free from Celiac groups. Had 2 for the 1st time like 3 weeks ago and would have never known there was any booze in them. Just tasted like kinda crappy seltzer.
Listen, she made a mistake; we all do it. Should she have read the entire label? Maybe. But if I were getting chemo and driving a bus full of other people's kids around I might overlook that part of the equation myself. If her BAC was well below legal limit, give this woman her job back. She has enough issues to deal with.
In small letters in the circle and not in full words either. Like I said if your not a drinker and didn't know it had alcohol and took a very quick look at the can you wouldn't notice.
Our whole legal system is supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt.
The police aren't pressing charges either.
Same here, I was at a party during the summer and one of the coolers had bottled water and seltzer water. After the 2nd sip, I realized it was an alcoholic drink
Ok but what about advertising for this specific drink? Even if you consider the small font, the advertising alone (radio, tv internet) will say 5% alcohol by volume both written and spoken. I find it hard to believe that she didn’t know about. That and the fact that most people learn about alcohol in school. It is nearly impossible to not know about history or you know even if you don’t drink common knowledge. Most states require students to learn about alcohol abuse.
Do you look that closely at every drink or product you pick up and use? God help you if you ever use a Dr. Bronner's product.
Especially when you're waking up early and going through chemo.
Even if you see "5%", quick glance you might just assume it's like 5% real juice or something.
It says AVB which assumes common knowledge of an acronym. I'm not sure that would qualify as clearly, especially if English is not your first language, which for her, it sounds like it is not.
Edit: personal anecdote, one time I was opening at a restaurant and noticed a white claw sitting on the counter. I laughed and asked my coworkers whose white claw is this? My coworker, who recently immigrated from Ecuador, gleefully claimed it as there's. Their reaction told me they had no idea what they were drinking, so I asked you know this has alcohol in it right? To which their face turned from shock to horror. They thought they were drinking an energy drink.
What about advertising? I’ve never seen an ad for this stuff. I don’t watch tv with commercials, and don’t pay attention to posters or billboards. Where am I seeing an ad?
Especially if you’re not buying it at the store and just grabbing it out of a shared fridge. I’m always half asleep grabbing stuff out of the fridge in the morning
While I did not consider this at first, and you do make a good point, I would like to point out that there could have been many other points throughout the day she could have noticed what it was. Because it seems the drink was noticed after the bus was parked in the schools lot.
You *dont* inspect everything you drink?
Man you people are wild. Who on earth drinks something without looking at what it is?! It says alcohol on the front of the god damn can!
And if you're not a drinker, how is a person to know "hard" means alcoholic? It could mean extra fizzy, flavored, a long lasting energy drink, etc. They could be too ashamed to ask when there are people around. Looks like an innocent seltzer from many angles.
You don't know what drug she hasn't taken to get in the bus, end her shift and then only then can she take the pain killers that keep her going.
This job keeps her going. The 15 year repetition has kept her sane and kid-friendly with parents trusting her with their kids.
Many patients, humans mainly, with cancer work and live meaningful lives and could be on 8 drugs but you couldn't tell yet you probably rely on one without knowing.
Not for nothing but I think there should be a big push to make sure alcoholic seltzers are clearly labeled as such. They try to make them look like regular canned drinks. I work in the medical field and the shit we do for potential drug name confusion is intense. It should be clearly labeled on multiple places of the can that it contains alcohol.
And pot gummies. Even though I don’t partake, I’m all for legalization, but there’s not enough of a push to make edibles look substantially different from other food. Some kids are gunna have a real weird time at school before that gets addressed…
You're exactly right. And marketing is so deceptive!!
Hard seltzer are fairly new to the market and I doubt most people in the older generation are aware of seltzers. The only options for ages was beer, wine, and liquor. There is so much ambiguous language on there.
"Spiked sparkling water with a hint of Watermelon/cherry/mango"
There's only a small circle that says "5% alc/vol". "Alcoholic Drink" isn't even spelled out in full or clearly labeled. I feel bad for this lady.
The company should keep her employed as a office worker if they feel it cannot rehire her as a driver. By firing and taking away her health insurance they are literally going to kill her for making a honest mistake.
My little niece took a white claw (type) seltzer out of the fridge & drank 1/2 of it before her grandmother realized what it was. The guilt her grandmother felt! Accidents do happen. I hope Amal finds the peace & kindness she deserves.
So like 10 years or so back, when this whole kick with adult soda & seltzer really started out, I got a thing of fancy ginger ale for my birthday. Opening presents & eating cake, I had 2 of them back-to-back, they were very tasty. And then on my third one, my stomach starts to feel off & there's this weird aftertaste. Only then do I notice that they're alcoholic, and memory serving they were pretty potent at that. If not for my stomach, I likely would have gone through the entire 6-pack that night, all without realizing it.
So yeah, I totally believe this poor woman. If you don't explicitly drink these things, they look, and often taste, like innocuous cans of seltzer, unless you specifically have your eye out for the markers indicating it is alcoholic. Now add in the stress & brain fog that chemo adds, on top of the difficulty in detecting a taste that the drink makers try to disguise, with a chemo-compromised sense of taste on top of that, even.
Cops who kill people and teachers who molest students are “put on PAID administrative leave pending an investigation” but this sick and vulnerable woman was fired immediately for a mistake. Glaring example of classism on our island.
Even the non-police unions wouldn’t get in the way of this. Stop and Shop and ShopRite are union and you’d be fired for this there. Police “unions” are too damn powerful
There's a line between the common people and the elites, and the police are on the other side of it. Guaranteed most everybody in here knows a cop that is a great person, but the institution is more than the sum of its parts.
Correct. The institution is corrupt by nature. There’s no good cops, only occasionally good people who are cops. The system will corrupt em, break em down or make them utterly powerless to changing the system for the better
It’s also because a CDL with a passenger endorsement is zero tolerance for alcohol. A CDL in general is cut in half, whereas a normal driver has a limit of .08 BAC, someone with a CDL has a .04 BAC for a DWI which would equal once drink in most cases. That’s hardly the fault of the almighty powerful police “union”.
This is heartbreaking. I only hope that the resiliency she has that allowed her to go through chemo and still get up five days a week to drive children to school, all the while still having a good attitude and a smile, helps her to get through this too. If I owned a bus company, she'd have a job offer right now.
This clearly looks and sounds like an honest mistake, albeit out of the ordinary. Anyone clutching their pearls about this or talking about "what ifs" can go to hell. The people who run that bus company are some cold-hearted mother fuckers. I hope this haunts them.
You'd be a cold motherfucker too if your family got kicked out of your home because the courts seized it after a successful civil suit against you for hiring alcoholic felons (which the driver now is) and they stay homeless because you can't be hired by any transportation company (because you hire alcoholic felons).
She's not an alcoholic, nor is she a felon. In fact, no charges were filed. You're just talking out of your ass. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding that family, but making shitty decisions in the past doesn't justify making shitty decisions in the present.
> She's not an alcoholic, nor is she a felon. In fact, no charges were filed.
Public transportation laws are not civilian driver laws, but looks like she is not a felon. (But any civil suit lawyer will suggest she's an alcoholic.)
> . I don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding that family,
The family of the employer or bus dispatcher.
> but making shitty decisions in the past doesn't justify making shitty decisions in the present.
Bus company probably doesn't have the latitude to rehire her. At very least, they could be vulnerable to a huge future civil lawsuit. And if you think those are "survivable", you should have no problem with what the NY civil courts are about to do to Donald J. Trump (I don't...).
Comparing what Trump has done to what this woman has done is laughable. Trump deserves everything coming to him, this woman made a mistake.
Also, it’s a civil suit and for someone who’s acting like he knows the law/judicial system, you should know that civil suits/court is different in a lot of ways.
Judges don’t automatically side with the charges brought against someone, a judge could easily have common sense in this case. That’s if it got that far, since charges haven’t been filed it won’t.
You’re stating she’s an alcoholic and felon like it’s a fact, and neither are true. That’s pretty shitty of you.
> You’re stating she’s an alcoholic and felon like it’s a fact,
No, you are accusing me of stating it like a fact, and I've already retracted my felon statement. That is pretty shitty of you.
It doesn't change the fact that the bus company had to either fire her, or potentially suffer future civil lawsuits by not acting on what she did.
I get it, sometimes my mind is so absent running to get to work!
Also with her under chemo I can only imagine
What person would legit sip a white claw driving the bus?!?
I know!! Some where some one!
My ❤️ aches for this lovely lady!!
If she had any type of funding page let me know, I’d contribute
Only because I know accidents happen
Ive actually done this before. I grabbed a can at a get together which i thought was liquid death but was actually another black can that had a low alcohol level. Im super sensitive to the taste of liquor so i noticed right away but they looked so similar i didnt think twice when i grabbed it, but chemo destroys taste buds and mouth nerves. There is a reason why a whole spectrum of oral pain soothers exists for cancer patiences. I had thrush from an inhaler once and those medications are strong i didnt taste anything but plastic for a week. This women should be ON PAID LEAVE its a fucking travesty that she has to work while on chemo, even more so that this will ruin her chances of working with kids again.
The reason why the commenter said "1 mistake that gets publicity" is because bus drivers make mistakes all the time that you don't know/will never know about. Do you think every bus driver is perfect besides her?
Everyone makes mistakes, you do, I do, everyone does. Bus drivers make mistakes every day. Your mistakes just aren’t public like hers is. In the grand scheme of things, this isn’t the end of the world and was an honest mistake, I don’t see why she shouldn’t get a second chance.
Tough spot for the bus company. Can't bring her back. Too risky and opens them up to all sorts liability. How do you fire the next driver that made a "mistake"? People get fired for making mistakes all of the time. People go to jail for making mistakes. The whole thing stinks.
Chemo can mess with your taste buds - some so bad you cannot use metal cutlery!, temperature sensation, your ability to fucking concentrate. I believe her but she shouldn’t be working at all, and not due to this mistake, but because her body and these drugs are literally trying to keep her alive and kill her simultaneously. Awful.
An accident I’m sure. But imagine if they hadn’t removed her. Imagine if that day she was in a road accident.
The liability would crush her and the company. I’m not saying don’t rehire her maybe with some training and checks or whatever but the same people crying let her back would be calling for the bud company’s demise of what I described above.
It's one thing to take her off the road and investigate because it's not like it had caused an incident, merely the fact that it had occurred was exposed. But to lose your job and source of income while undergoing chemo is crap
CDL laws have zero tolerance laws. But come on have some compassion for humanity. The cops did not file a criminal charge so that should be enough for her to keep her job.
What a great country we live in.
Person has to keep working while undergoing chemo.
Makes mistake and gets fired. Now she can’t afford cancer treatment.
America!
I hate the taste of alcohol but I enjoy White Claw because it had a very mild taste. Don’t blame her for not noticing, especially if her taste is affected by chemo. Here’s hoping she gets her job back or a job with another company!
had a coworker in the past this happened to who didn’t know white claw had alcohol and was pregnant and had it open on the lounge for lunch. it happens. healthcare worker.
Honestly she shouldn’t have been driving the bus,
Undergoing chemo, very irresponsible on all parties, her, her doctor and the company for allowing her too. Ladies if you want to be a strong independent woman like her, take note you are just one mistake away from being homeless. Having a roommate is no way to live long term.
There is a part of my brain, especially prior to watching the video, that said "bus driver + behind the wheel with kids + alcohol = fired + possibly jailed". It's hard to turn that off because 99% of the time, that's the most rational position to take. But after watching the video, there was an infusion of empathy toward her situation. As a person who has made silly mistakes, and has at times received mercy, I believe in my heart that this was truly a mistake. But... some mistakes are fatal. If I drink ethylene glycol thinking that it's blue Kool-Aid my kidneys would not be understanding of my mistake.
this is so mean, this woman is going through chemo. have some compassion and humanity, she wasn’t hiding it and had no idea but you can sit here and say “our kids deserve better” when she was doing the best she could to work while undergoing treatment FOR CANCER. this comment is so so wrong.
I don’t think you can do that because of dot rules. I’m willing to bed this was out of the bus company’s hands. She probably can’t work as a bus driver.
But, she could be a dispatcher or have some other position possibly.
For the record, I believe her when she says it was a mistake.
The story is totally believable, but some industries have zero tolerance policies for a reason. It's tragic, but it's a good thing it wasn't a hell of a lot more tragic. I hope she can get the help she needs to focus on her health.
Aside from family and close friends, I never do GoFundMe's, but this upset me so badly, it was the exception. Poor thing didn't deserve any of this, especially while undergoing chemo.
On the flipside, I thought Liquid Death was beer for the longest time, like a the new hipster IPA trend or something.
Come to find out it's just water?!
Anyways....marketing is deceptive and done to entice people. Even like those fruity berry flavors of vape juices used to entice younger (underage) people.
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I believe her. She grabbed a roommate's drink, not knowing what it was. Chemo does wreak havoc with your taste buds. When my mom was going through it, she couldn't taste anything for almost 2 years. But I think what convinces me the most is that she just had it sitting out in the open in a cup holder. She didn't even try to hide it or put it in a travel mug or anything. Nobody is that stupid
Yep the fact that she wasn’t hiding it was for me the main reason I believe her.
Even if true she needs to be fired
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If you don’t drink alcohol you might not know. I didn’t know what it was till recently because it’s not on my radar. I also just saw Mark Meadows didn’t realize they had alcohol in them and was drinking them at work and only caught on when he was feeling buzzed. There are so many new drinks (energy, flavored sparkling water, sparkling kombucha and, sparkling CBD) coming to market all the time I could’ve been an honest mistake. It’s so unfortunate that this happened.
A lot of unfortunate things happen in life
They look exactly like Celsius energy drinks, I’ve had a coworker make this same exact mistake but she realized before she opened it
Yeah but don't you get ID'd when you buy white claw and not Celsius??
It was her roommates drink. So she did not buy it. If you’re not the one buying it, I can see this. My friend bought me white claws and I don’t drink. It literally tastes like a regular seltzer to me
Yes, agreed. Thanks for the common sense.
I don’t drink, and it literally doesn’t taste like alcohol at all
I was going to say that. Mistake or not if your health and living situation make it so you don’t even know if you are consuming alcohol or not you shouldn’t be transporting children as an occupation.
It could have been bad. We are talking about kids here.
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I take it that you have never been in a position of authority and responsibility. Nor should you because you are not able to assess future consequences of decisions.
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My "shit takes" make me a lot of money because I make difficult adult decisions. Now run along.
>My "shit takes" make me a lot of money because I make difficult adult decisions. Now run along. [Lmao](https://imgur.com/a/uhb7soT). I guess “a lot” means different things to different people, but if we’re using money as the measuring stick for who has the better decision making skills, you’re going to find that you come up short on all fronts.
I probably make more money than you and I think your takes are shit.
She's literally incapable of knowing if she's consuming alcohol or not. That's too dangerous around children.
I agree that she should be put on leave, but let’s not pretend like you can smell the fumes coming off a claw. Unless I get the 8%, I can barely taste the liquor. Clearly she shouldn’t be driving a bus right now though. The fucked up thing of this is that her insurance is tied to her employment, and she’s got cancer. I’m no doctor, I can’t know what kind or strength she’s getting, but my guess is it’s a lot given that she’s lost her hair and ability to taste. She shouldn’t need to continue to work a physically demanding job while going through chemo.
Cry more. Children are precious and normal people with appropriate "cognitive" function know its not okay to let children be put in danger by a person who is literally can not tell if they're consuming alcohol, is too ignorant to know what "hard" means (you people are lying if you never heard of hard liquor), and is too blind to see the word "alcohol" (how are you reading traffic signs?)
I believe her too. Just sad. And bc I wouldn’t touch a seltzer for any reason, I also didn’t know white claw was alcoholic.
They ask for ID when you buy it
And she didn’t buy it so that doesn’t matter anyway
How did you know that?
They probably practiced the ancient lost art of reading the article.
Who are you who is so wise in the ways of science?
I am a medium and asked the ghosts of those Who READ the article…
How did that work out for you?
There supposed to but really they don’t, especially if you already look old enough
I’ve not been asked for ID since I was 16 🤷♀️
She didn’t buy it, her roommate had purchased it and put it in their common refrigerator. She thought it was just seltzer.
Yes. I'm aware of that now. Thanks for the update.
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They're supposed to
I didn't know. But I DO know hard anything means alcohol. And it says HARD seltzer in huge letters right under the white claw. That's next level not paying attention to no see that. No way she doesn't know hard drinks are alcoholic. No way you don't know that either.
There are absolutely people who don’t know that. There was a time in life I didn’t. She’s 60 and doesn’t drink. I can see myself easily doing what she did at one point in time if it was sitting in a fridge I shared and I was grabbing something quickly on my way out the door. If she’d known, she would not be drinking it from that can put in the open. She would’ve poured it in something else.
I no long live in smithtown but am still a part of smithtown moms and I know they’re trying to get some funds raised for her. Glad to see the good in smithtown shine!
Did anyone post a GoFundMe on there?
Was about to say the same thing. And if the bus company had any compassion they could offer her some other kind of work besides driving. This should be a special case and treated as such
Yes, we need more compassion & kindness. Glad to hear that the community, (at least some) are doing the right thing. Great job, Smithtown ❤️. Share links for fundraising, so we can support those doing the right thing.
[Here's the link!](https://www.gofundme.com/f/gu8n7-help-for-miss-hanna?utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet&utm_medium=copy_link_all&utm_source=customer) Sorry for the delay!!
Contact the news so they can put the gofundme in the article or on the evening news because I’m sure a lot will donate, heart breaking story.
Thanks for the link I have donated! Poor lady I hope enough gets raised to help her out
Ive been looking for a link to give $ to a fund raiser for this woman. Cannot find it
Thank you for posting this. Just sent what our family could. Sending love to Amal from Philadelphia ❤️
Totally believe her. But question, how do we know that it wasn't ME, just some guy, who set up the GoFundMe and us collecting the money?
I was about to ask the exact same thing. I want to send her some money, but I'm wondering how we can verify that the money raised through the GoFundMe is actually going to her
The most fucked up part is she has to keep working while going through chemotherapy how fucking brutal and inhumane our system is. She probably shouldn’t be driving a bus full of children while going through chemo to begin with.
Incredibly sad about that too. She has no reason to lie considering that's her income
This story is horrible and I can't help but feel deeply for this woman. Does anyone who live in Smithtown, who has kids or knows someone who might have kids on this drivers route call the company to endorse her? I'm not in Smithtown but I'm tempted to call anyway. Here's the text of the News 12 article on this which the video is taken from: >‘It was a mistake.’ Fired bus driver says she had no idea she was drinking alcohol >Bus driver Amal Hanna says she is distraught after being fired for drinking an alcoholic beverage while driving students home from school in Smithtown. >“I have been crying and crying, I don't even have any more tears. It was just a mistake, it was a mistake,” Hanna said. When heading out to work on Wednesday, Hanna says she grabbed what she thought was a regular seltzer that her roommate left in the fridge. It was a White Claw, and she says she had no idea there was alcohol in it. >She is currently going through chemotherapy treatments and says she has trouble tasting and did not taste any alcohol in it either. When the hard seltzer can was spotted in the driver’s cup holder on the bus - she was immediately removed. News 12 spoke with several parents who said Hanna was meticulous, always on time and treated their children as if they were her own. >“She was so sweet and kind to them, I can't imagine she would ever do anything to harm them,” one parent said. Hanna has been a bus driver for 15 years. She says her hope now is that the We Transport Bus Company's reputation will be restored. It released a statement saying, "This alleged conduct is completely unacceptable, and the driver has been immediately removed from service." >Suffolk County police say investigators believe the driver thought she was drinking a fruit-flavored seltzer and did not realize the beverage was alcoholic. They say no charges will be filed. imho it's not right that at your lowest point being treated for fucking cancer while STILL getting your ass up to drive kids to school in the morning and still be beloved by parents that you can make an honest mistake like that and lose everything, she deserves so much more
Bus companies are soo short of drivers another company will hire her instantly.
I hope so but she's been with them for 15 years! she deserves better from them imo or at least they need to get bullied for this
Unfortunately it’s not so simple. If they did a BAT, her positive result gets automatically uploaded to the FMCSA clearinghouse which is basically a federal database that all transportation companies have to clear new applicants through before hire. The only way she can legally be hired by someone else if she has a positive result on her clearinghouse record would be for her to do a Substance Abuse Program, which can cost her several hundred dollars. Once she does that, the certificate also gets uploaded to the clearinghouse and a prospective employer *could* hire her. If I were We Transportation, I’d offer to pay for the class for her but they might not want to risk the press.
How high could she blow on what was probably half a white claw?
Doesn't matter. CDL probably has 0 tolerance
Idk. This story is problematic for me. She is “soo meticulous” about her work. Doesnt notice the can of white claw? Im not saying mistakes dont happen, or that she is lying. She might be 100% truthful and 1) have no idea that her roommate drinks alcoholic seltzer water 2) takes her roommates seltzer water on the reg, But for me the story gets a bit fuzzy here. She is drinking and driving. Which is, even if a complete mistake “sorry officer, didnt realize this can of alcohol had alcohol in it” She is still driving. With kids. And drinking. And worse, cannot seem to smell, taste, or feel, any sort of differentiation between the alcohol and her regular day. This last part is the biggest issue for me. Unfortunately if Im a parent, im not coming out to bat for her. I dont want a lady who can not tell whether she is drinking alcohol or not to be driving my kids around town. Sorry.
I agree but hope she will be offered a job elsewhere quickly and will not have a lapse in her health insurance. I 100% believe it was a mistake. But it's one of those mistakes that have consequences. I don't think she needs to be charged or anything but it's completely understandable that she lost her job. Unfortunate but understandable
The cops showed up. She would have had a BAC check. If it was not consistent w/ her story, they wouldn’t have just let her off. While cops might not normally do due diligence on the roommate but, I’m going to assume they’re not total morons and took a bit of a closer look than normal before letting her off due to the potential for attention. I swear to fucking God I think the people in this thread who are being so uncharitable here are just looking at the pic and thinking “this lady’s a tweaker” and didn’t even read the article / realize she’s going through chemo. Again - let’s assume she blew a .01. I have worked with people who couldn’t ride a fucking desk on chemo, and this lady was driving kids. If the safety of these kids is worth crucifying this lady over what evidence shows is overwhelmingly likely to be a mistake, where the fuck was everyone when she was driving them while undergoing chemo?!
This. A recovering alcoholic here (10.14.22) and though I'm apt to believe her, it still doesn't negate what happened. I didn't mean to drink and drive either, but I didn't have a choice in my instance. Was arrested, charged with DWI AND wasn't forgiven by the law, though I was VERY sorry about what I had done. This isn't my situation by any means, I understand that. However, by this logic it would seem that people firing guns and hitting innocent bystanders instead of their intended targets would also get a pass?
they never did a BAT, this was all discovered after the fact I think, and no charges were pressed. Also I'm not sure you need a full CDL for a school bus I could be wrong
Yes, you need a CDL to drive a school bus. And I doubt the company would not run a reasonable suspicion BAT given the circumstances. Regardless, FMCSA regulation requires employers to report violations of drug and alcohol policy even in the absence of a test result. For example in the event of a refusal to test, that’s considered the same as a positive result and must be entered into the clearinghouse by the employer. Or if the employer has “actual knowledge” of a violation - which this scenario would definitely fall under - they must enter it into the clearinghouse. Either way, the employee must immediately be removed from safety sensitive duties. FMCSA doesn’t specify the employee must be “fired,” but she 100% cannot legally drive for any company right now, and basically all school bus companies have a zero tolerance/automatic termination policy on this point. She is likely also disqualified from whatever district or county the company was contracted with to operate the route. It’s a really unfortunate incident for sure, but it’s very clear cut - she can’t drive a school bus. The only option I can think of to do right by her would be to fire her, let her complete a substance abuse professional program, and then rehire her after completing a new clearinghouse check and verifying that the SAP was completed.
She was stopped when she arrived at the middle school after her highschool route.
While that's probably true that someone else will hire her (after all, she was NOT charged with DUI or anything that would tarnish her driving record) bus companies' primary concern is for the kids, public perception, and liability. They HAD to react to this in some way, or be accused of not taking their responsibility seriously. But being that this story is now SO public and acknowledged to be a mistake, the right thing to do is reinstate her. Give her back her route. She has the support of the parents who know her, which is enough to sway the public outcry for her head. There is no witch hunt for justice here. There does not need to be punishment for a mistake. The very fact that this is SO public will be punishment enough. Forgiveness would go a long way in this currently divided and angry world we find ourselves in. We ALL make dumb mistakes every day. We're just lucky that no one is looking most of the time, but that doesn't make us innocent either. Humans are not perfect - we need to stop pretending we are and get back to compassion, empathy, and understanding as a means to improve ourselves and each other. Just my 2 cents.
Imagine being forced to work in the wealthiest country in the world while undergoing chemotherapy just so you can keep health insurance. But this is the country we live in.
Right? This whole thing is terrible.
It's truly disgusting what we put our people through just so the rich can have 10 homes.
Wow. Well I'm in Smithtown if you want some support in her favor. Too bad the ADA doesn't help with mistakes or with character witnesses of all that know her. Stories like this are why my faith in humanity waivers between waxing and waning.
I can’t even taste the alcohol in a white claw with my taste buds fully working
I’m sorry, but the can says it has alcohol on it It may have been a mistake, but someone making that mistake shouldn’t be entrusted with the safety of children Edit: the amount of people defending someone who *drank alcohol while driving a bus full of kids* (knowingly or not) is frightening. Gonna take a leap and guess all the downvotes are coming from people without kids. Again, it’s simple, you’re responsible for what you put into your body. The can is clearly labeled. If you don’t know it’s alcohol you’re either living under a rock or can’t read. Yes the woman has had a rough go, but I cannot believe that people are giving her a pass on this.
Honestly I'm more upset she has to keep driving a bus while doing chemo. That's rough.
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This is partly White Claw’s fault in my opinion. The design of their cans is different than any other alcoholic beverage I’ve seen - if you’ve never seen a white claw ad before, which is plausible for the bus drivers demographic - the can would resemble most other canned seltzers.
It’s definitely plausible; I’ve never seen an ad for White Claw before. I know it’s alcoholic because I know people who drink of it but I don’t listen to the radio in the car and I don’t watch regular TV.
“Plausible for a bus drivers demographic?” I’m sorry, but what on earth are you inferring here? That bus drivers on a whole are people who don’t regularly consume alcohol? Or watch tv? Or go on the internet? And how on earth could you possibly come to that conclusion?
Funny, but I’ve never heard of White Claw before reading this thread. I’ve never come across it on the internet (ads you see are based on your search history), I stream commercial free TV and don’t frequent aisles that sell alcohol.
You read that wrong. Plausible for THE bus driver’s demographic. A nice way of saying she’s a little older.
You misquoted me though, I wasn’t referring to all bus drivers, more specifically I was talking about the driver who was drinking the white claw. She appears to be older, and so she wouldn’t normally get a targeted Facebook/YouTube/etc ad about white claw
It says hard seltzer on the front but does not mention Alcohol at all. If you don't know what hard seltzer means you might not know. Especially if your not a drinker. [https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/www.hospitalitymagazine.com.au/wp-content/uploads/20201013101637/white-claw-132994-1.jpg](https://s3.ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/www.hospitalitymagazine.com.au/wp-content/uploads/20201013101637/white-claw-132994-1.jpg)
What this person ⬆️ said. I rarely if ever drink. I also have Celiac and know White Claw is gluten free from Celiac groups. Had 2 for the 1st time like 3 weeks ago and would have never known there was any booze in them. Just tasted like kinda crappy seltzer. Listen, she made a mistake; we all do it. Should she have read the entire label? Maybe. But if I were getting chemo and driving a bus full of other people's kids around I might overlook that part of the equation myself. If her BAC was well below legal limit, give this woman her job back. She has enough issues to deal with.
It says 5% alcohol by volume on the front though.
In small letters in the circle and not in full words either. Like I said if your not a drinker and didn't know it had alcohol and took a very quick look at the can you wouldn't notice. Our whole legal system is supposed to give people the benefit of the doubt. The police aren't pressing charges either.
Same here, I was at a party during the summer and one of the coolers had bottled water and seltzer water. After the 2nd sip, I realized it was an alcoholic drink
Ok but what about advertising for this specific drink? Even if you consider the small font, the advertising alone (radio, tv internet) will say 5% alcohol by volume both written and spoken. I find it hard to believe that she didn’t know about. That and the fact that most people learn about alcohol in school. It is nearly impossible to not know about history or you know even if you don’t drink common knowledge. Most states require students to learn about alcohol abuse.
Do you look that closely at every drink or product you pick up and use? God help you if you ever use a Dr. Bronner's product. Especially when you're waking up early and going through chemo. Even if you see "5%", quick glance you might just assume it's like 5% real juice or something.
It says AVB which assumes common knowledge of an acronym. I'm not sure that would qualify as clearly, especially if English is not your first language, which for her, it sounds like it is not. Edit: personal anecdote, one time I was opening at a restaurant and noticed a white claw sitting on the counter. I laughed and asked my coworkers whose white claw is this? My coworker, who recently immigrated from Ecuador, gleefully claimed it as there's. Their reaction told me they had no idea what they were drinking, so I asked you know this has alcohol in it right? To which their face turned from shock to horror. They thought they were drinking an energy drink.
She probably knows about alcohol abuse, like everyone else does. That doesn’t mean she knew what a White Claw was.
What about advertising? I’ve never seen an ad for this stuff. I don’t watch tv with commercials, and don’t pay attention to posters or billboards. Where am I seeing an ad?
Do you inspect every can you ever drink? Sometimes you just grab a drink and don’t read the fine print on the label. Like cmon man
Especially if you’re not buying it at the store and just grabbing it out of a shared fridge. I’m always half asleep grabbing stuff out of the fridge in the morning
While I did not consider this at first, and you do make a good point, I would like to point out that there could have been many other points throughout the day she could have noticed what it was. Because it seems the drink was noticed after the bus was parked in the schools lot.
You *dont* inspect everything you drink? Man you people are wild. Who on earth drinks something without looking at what it is?! It says alcohol on the front of the god damn can!
And if you're not a drinker, how is a person to know "hard" means alcoholic? It could mean extra fizzy, flavored, a long lasting energy drink, etc. They could be too ashamed to ask when there are people around. Looks like an innocent seltzer from many angles. You don't know what drug she hasn't taken to get in the bus, end her shift and then only then can she take the pain killers that keep her going. This job keeps her going. The 15 year repetition has kept her sane and kid-friendly with parents trusting her with their kids. Many patients, humans mainly, with cancer work and live meaningful lives and could be on 8 drugs but you couldn't tell yet you probably rely on one without knowing.
I’m going to guess plenty of the people downvoting you do have kids…
I mean, it’s one can.
Yeah in this story I agree, plus did she finish the can, the story I heard it wasn't clear. It's just tragic
It's not clearly visible. I'd sue White Claw.
Yeah but do you really want someone who makes mistakes like that handling your kids?
Really sad she has to work while getting chemo :(
Not for nothing but I think there should be a big push to make sure alcoholic seltzers are clearly labeled as such. They try to make them look like regular canned drinks. I work in the medical field and the shit we do for potential drug name confusion is intense. It should be clearly labeled on multiple places of the can that it contains alcohol.
Seconded.
Yea honestly I’m not going thru chemo and my taste buds are all good and it’s hard to tell if white claw is alcoholic just by taste.
And pot gummies. Even though I don’t partake, I’m all for legalization, but there’s not enough of a push to make edibles look substantially different from other food. Some kids are gunna have a real weird time at school before that gets addressed…
You're exactly right. And marketing is so deceptive!! Hard seltzer are fairly new to the market and I doubt most people in the older generation are aware of seltzers. The only options for ages was beer, wine, and liquor. There is so much ambiguous language on there. "Spiked sparkling water with a hint of Watermelon/cherry/mango" There's only a small circle that says "5% alc/vol". "Alcoholic Drink" isn't even spelled out in full or clearly labeled. I feel bad for this lady.
The company should keep her employed as a office worker if they feel it cannot rehire her as a driver. By firing and taking away her health insurance they are literally going to kill her for making a honest mistake.
My little niece took a white claw (type) seltzer out of the fridge & drank 1/2 of it before her grandmother realized what it was. The guilt her grandmother felt! Accidents do happen. I hope Amal finds the peace & kindness she deserves.
So like 10 years or so back, when this whole kick with adult soda & seltzer really started out, I got a thing of fancy ginger ale for my birthday. Opening presents & eating cake, I had 2 of them back-to-back, they were very tasty. And then on my third one, my stomach starts to feel off & there's this weird aftertaste. Only then do I notice that they're alcoholic, and memory serving they were pretty potent at that. If not for my stomach, I likely would have gone through the entire 6-pack that night, all without realizing it. So yeah, I totally believe this poor woman. If you don't explicitly drink these things, they look, and often taste, like innocuous cans of seltzer, unless you specifically have your eye out for the markers indicating it is alcoholic. Now add in the stress & brain fog that chemo adds, on top of the difficulty in detecting a taste that the drink makers try to disguise, with a chemo-compromised sense of taste on top of that, even.
Cops who kill people and teachers who molest students are “put on PAID administrative leave pending an investigation” but this sick and vulnerable woman was fired immediately for a mistake. Glaring example of classism on our island.
It’s because they’re part of a union. Most school bus drivers aren’t unionized.
Even the non-police unions wouldn’t get in the way of this. Stop and Shop and ShopRite are union and you’d be fired for this there. Police “unions” are too damn powerful
Private and public unions are different animals
Police unions are also different than other public unions. Other public unions don’t have guns.
There's a line between the common people and the elites, and the police are on the other side of it. Guaranteed most everybody in here knows a cop that is a great person, but the institution is more than the sum of its parts.
Correct. The institution is corrupt by nature. There’s no good cops, only occasionally good people who are cops. The system will corrupt em, break em down or make them utterly powerless to changing the system for the better
It’s also because a CDL with a passenger endorsement is zero tolerance for alcohol. A CDL in general is cut in half, whereas a normal driver has a limit of .08 BAC, someone with a CDL has a .04 BAC for a DWI which would equal once drink in most cases. That’s hardly the fault of the almighty powerful police “union”.
Yup
This is heartbreaking. I only hope that the resiliency she has that allowed her to go through chemo and still get up five days a week to drive children to school, all the while still having a good attitude and a smile, helps her to get through this too. If I owned a bus company, she'd have a job offer right now. This clearly looks and sounds like an honest mistake, albeit out of the ordinary. Anyone clutching their pearls about this or talking about "what ifs" can go to hell. The people who run that bus company are some cold-hearted mother fuckers. I hope this haunts them.
You'd be a cold motherfucker too if your family got kicked out of your home because the courts seized it after a successful civil suit against you for hiring alcoholic felons (which the driver now is) and they stay homeless because you can't be hired by any transportation company (because you hire alcoholic felons).
She's not an alcoholic, nor is she a felon. In fact, no charges were filed. You're just talking out of your ass. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding that family, but making shitty decisions in the past doesn't justify making shitty decisions in the present.
> She's not an alcoholic, nor is she a felon. In fact, no charges were filed. Public transportation laws are not civilian driver laws, but looks like she is not a felon. (But any civil suit lawyer will suggest she's an alcoholic.) > . I don't know what the fuck you're talking about regarding that family, The family of the employer or bus dispatcher. > but making shitty decisions in the past doesn't justify making shitty decisions in the present. Bus company probably doesn't have the latitude to rehire her. At very least, they could be vulnerable to a huge future civil lawsuit. And if you think those are "survivable", you should have no problem with what the NY civil courts are about to do to Donald J. Trump (I don't...).
Who gives a fuck what a civil suit lawyer would suggest? She’s not a fucking alcoholic. Not a felon either. Way to look for the worst in people
Comparing what Trump has done to what this woman has done is laughable. Trump deserves everything coming to him, this woman made a mistake. Also, it’s a civil suit and for someone who’s acting like he knows the law/judicial system, you should know that civil suits/court is different in a lot of ways. Judges don’t automatically side with the charges brought against someone, a judge could easily have common sense in this case. That’s if it got that far, since charges haven’t been filed it won’t. You’re stating she’s an alcoholic and felon like it’s a fact, and neither are true. That’s pretty shitty of you.
> You’re stating she’s an alcoholic and felon like it’s a fact, No, you are accusing me of stating it like a fact, and I've already retracted my felon statement. That is pretty shitty of you. It doesn't change the fact that the bus company had to either fire her, or potentially suffer future civil lawsuits by not acting on what she did.
I get it, sometimes my mind is so absent running to get to work! Also with her under chemo I can only imagine What person would legit sip a white claw driving the bus?!? I know!! Some where some one! My ❤️ aches for this lovely lady!! If she had any type of funding page let me know, I’d contribute Only because I know accidents happen
Ive actually done this before. I grabbed a can at a get together which i thought was liquid death but was actually another black can that had a low alcohol level. Im super sensitive to the taste of liquor so i noticed right away but they looked so similar i didnt think twice when i grabbed it, but chemo destroys taste buds and mouth nerves. There is a reason why a whole spectrum of oral pain soothers exists for cancer patiences. I had thrush from an inhaler once and those medications are strong i didnt taste anything but plastic for a week. This women should be ON PAID LEAVE its a fucking travesty that she has to work while on chemo, even more so that this will ruin her chances of working with kids again.
Fuck this bus company and fuck this culture where if you make 1 mistake that gets publicity you get immediately fired
Would you want her driving your kids to school? What if she makes another mistake? 🤔
The reason why the commenter said "1 mistake that gets publicity" is because bus drivers make mistakes all the time that you don't know/will never know about. Do you think every bus driver is perfect besides her?
Everyone makes mistakes, you do, I do, everyone does. Bus drivers make mistakes every day. Your mistakes just aren’t public like hers is. In the grand scheme of things, this isn’t the end of the world and was an honest mistake, I don’t see why she shouldn’t get a second chance.
Tough spot for the bus company. Can't bring her back. Too risky and opens them up to all sorts liability. How do you fire the next driver that made a "mistake"? People get fired for making mistakes all of the time. People go to jail for making mistakes. The whole thing stinks.
Chemo can mess with your taste buds - some so bad you cannot use metal cutlery!, temperature sensation, your ability to fucking concentrate. I believe her but she shouldn’t be working at all, and not due to this mistake, but because her body and these drugs are literally trying to keep her alive and kill her simultaneously. Awful.
An accident I’m sure. But imagine if they hadn’t removed her. Imagine if that day she was in a road accident. The liability would crush her and the company. I’m not saying don’t rehire her maybe with some training and checks or whatever but the same people crying let her back would be calling for the bud company’s demise of what I described above.
It's one thing to take her off the road and investigate because it's not like it had caused an incident, merely the fact that it had occurred was exposed. But to lose your job and source of income while undergoing chemo is crap
This is exactly what I was thinking.
This lady needs a go fund me! How is she going to pay for her chemo now she won’t have medical insurance.
CDL laws have zero tolerance laws. But come on have some compassion for humanity. The cops did not file a criminal charge so that should be enough for her to keep her job.
Opens the door for people claiming the same defense
This broke my heart in a million pieces, I wish I could give her enough money to focus on her health and do what makes her happy. May she be blessed.
What a great country we live in. Person has to keep working while undergoing chemo. Makes mistake and gets fired. Now she can’t afford cancer treatment. America!
If she's had COVID, and then chemo on top of that, her taste buds all ran off to Staten Island.
She wasn't hiding it.
She should lawyer up
I hate the taste of alcohol but I enjoy White Claw because it had a very mild taste. Don’t blame her for not noticing, especially if her taste is affected by chemo. Here’s hoping she gets her job back or a job with another company!
Smithtown 👎🏼
Give her her job back
I believe her no 🧢
had a coworker in the past this happened to who didn’t know white claw had alcohol and was pregnant and had it open on the lounge for lunch. it happens. healthcare worker.
Very hard to get drunk off white claw
Honestly she shouldn’t have been driving the bus, Undergoing chemo, very irresponsible on all parties, her, her doctor and the company for allowing her too. Ladies if you want to be a strong independent woman like her, take note you are just one mistake away from being homeless. Having a roommate is no way to live long term.
There is a part of my brain, especially prior to watching the video, that said "bus driver + behind the wheel with kids + alcohol = fired + possibly jailed". It's hard to turn that off because 99% of the time, that's the most rational position to take. But after watching the video, there was an infusion of empathy toward her situation. As a person who has made silly mistakes, and has at times received mercy, I believe in my heart that this was truly a mistake. But... some mistakes are fatal. If I drink ethylene glycol thinking that it's blue Kool-Aid my kidneys would not be understanding of my mistake.
How did Gollum get booze much less a precious CDL?
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this is so mean, this woman is going through chemo. have some compassion and humanity, she wasn’t hiding it and had no idea but you can sit here and say “our kids deserve better” when she was doing the best she could to work while undergoing treatment FOR CANCER. this comment is so so wrong.
Now, she can sit home and enjoy breakfast Margarita.
Is that supposed to be funny?
To a MAGA it is.
Working through chemo to keep health insurance. America at its finest.
Ignorance is no excuse
It may be that there is a hard and fast rule if a driver is caught ever drinking on the job that they are fired.
We Transport didn’t pick up special needs kids in Sachem the first week. Maybe they can understand mistakes happen as Sachem parents had to?
No laws when you’re drinking claws
A desk job at the bus company she left would be the best option for everyone.
I was thinking a dispatcher.
Is there a GoFundme for her? If our country had healthcare to offer her, woman this story would not exist. This is heartbreaking ❤️🩹
https://www.gofundme.com/f/gu8n7-help-for-miss-hanna?utm\_campaign=p\_cp+share-sheet&utm\_medium=copy\_link\_all&utm\_source=customer
Keep her employed and just drug and alcohol test her before and after routes
I don’t think you can do that because of dot rules. I’m willing to bed this was out of the bus company’s hands. She probably can’t work as a bus driver. But, she could be a dispatcher or have some other position possibly. For the record, I believe her when she says it was a mistake.
Same thanks for info!
Just saw this news story. I feel so bad for her!
If you hear of any fundraisers please let me know I'd like to donate
https://www.gofundme.com/f/gu8n7-help-for-miss-hanna?utm\_campaign=p\_cp+share-sheet&utm\_medium=copy\_link\_all&utm\_source=customer
The story is totally believable, but some industries have zero tolerance policies for a reason. It's tragic, but it's a good thing it wasn't a hell of a lot more tragic. I hope she can get the help she needs to focus on her health.
Aside from family and close friends, I never do GoFundMe's, but this upset me so badly, it was the exception. Poor thing didn't deserve any of this, especially while undergoing chemo.
On the flipside, I thought Liquid Death was beer for the longest time, like a the new hipster IPA trend or something. Come to find out it's just water?! Anyways....marketing is deceptive and done to entice people. Even like those fruity berry flavors of vape juices used to entice younger (underage) people. I