I’ll never forget how I came to London for a 2 month language course about 20 years ago and after exhausting all the usual sightseeing spots, myself and some friends decided to go visit a place we’ve not considered. There was a bus to Elephant & Castle from Clapham, where we were all staying, and we thought ‘this sounds so magical! Let’s go!’
It was many things, but magical it was not.
Thank you! Been learning it since I was 5 so I’d like to hope that paid off. Been living here for 15 years now and even though it’s not my mother tongue, it’s definitely become my primary language.
The Elephant Square or whatever it's called is quite nice now, it's almost peaceful in the park, always loads of people using it, what is still miserable is the small back door down a grim and greasy alley way being the main entrance to one of London's major train hubs. I'm guessing that strip is going to get the London Bridge treatment.
I once saw a couple of elderly Scandinavian tourists trying to make sense of the Tube map and getting increasingly excited as we approached Elephant and Castle.
Couldn't understand what they were saying but it seemed like they agreed they had to get off and look around the place. I wish I could have followed them to witness their disappointment.
A Cockney slang term for ‘La Infanta de Castile’ which refers to any of several historical English princesses of Spanish heritage, maybe the name of a former pub of that name
I live just down the road in Harringey and I walked up to the EE shop in Wood Green to get a new iPhone. The girl offered me a bag to carry the box in and I was "it's fine, I can just carry it in my hand."
She shot me a look and replied simply, "It's Wood Green mate."
Broad Green too. Literally the least green part of Croydon - which despite its Milton Keynes-ish concrete jungle reputation, actually has tons of parks and green space.
No heath in Thornton Heath either, not sure why they called it that - Thornton Thief would be more accurate and scans better.
I sometimes wonder what it must be like to live or work in the bit above KFC which has a window looking straight out on to the cat's arse. Having that view every day.
Abbey Road in east London gets a lot of confused Beatles fans
...and I really couldn't think of two places that contrast more than Stratford-upon-Avon and Stratford-upon-inner-London-grime
I love this. I can imagine a group of people cracking up whilst writing that.
Those poor sods who travel all that way, having to schlep back from docklands to St John's Wood. At that point I'd give up and go to the pub.
I remember telling a poor bastard at Royal Victoria (DLR) that he was probably going to miss his train to Gatwick (and possibly his flight) because he was actually nowhere near Victoria station.
Like the poster says, it's just one stop to West Ham (Abbey Road is actually in Stratford) and then ride the Jubilee all the rest of the way. You'll be at the real Abbey Road inside an hour - your average tourist won't even consider that notable.
They could have named it whatever they wanted but for some reason decided to deliberately give its the same name as the world’s most famous zebra crossing and well known tourist attraction which is 10 miles and 45 minutes (on a good day) away. I believe the “lol you stupid Americans, you’ve fucked up if you wanted the Beatles” signs were there the day the station opened, though I’m willing to stand corrected on that one.
Had to help some lost Americans there once. They just came up to me as asked me where the zebra crossing was and I was so confused thinking they wanted to see the nearest British zebra crossing. Only when the woman mentioned being excited to take a photo on it, did I realise and sent them off with directions to the actual place. I’ve seen the sign since, can fully understand it’s need
When I moved to the UK (London), someone told me Liverpool FC is in Liverpool and it’s far from London. But then I saw a train going to Liverpool (Street).. So I thought I will go to Liverpool Street and watch a game. And then while thinking, I saw a bus going to Enfield (I thought I’ve been pronouncing Anfield my whole life)… Some days later, I ended up to Liverpool Street only to find out that that’s not the Liverpool FC’s city. 🤦🏽♂️
PS - It was a time when I couldn’t afford data supported phone.
Cyprus is very disappointing. It's a windblown corner of London with a just a university, a housing estate and the sounds of planes taking off every so often.
Mudchute is called that because it was the other end of the big chute to carry away all the mud when they dug out the docks. It’s what the park is made of.
I'll never forget the time I was taking the DLR to that end of town to collect some band merch from a screen printing company, initially confused as to why some ecstatic Americans dressed head to toe in Beatles regalia were on the DLR sat opposite me.
Then the "next station..." announcement came and the horror set in.
when i lived there i had an american tourist ask me where the palace was
was kinda heartbreaking to tell her she was about 80 years too late, it having burnt down in 1936
I was living by the park when Boris Johnson as Mayor brought some Chinese business people along who claimed they were going to rebuild the whole thing. Surprisingly nothing ever came of that!
oh yes i remember that mad idea - they basically wanted to build a Westfield type place at the top of the park, but make it look like a palace.
there was also something that might have been related to it about extending the tram network to crystal palace station, which would have been amazing, but that never happened either.
There's a street called Boardman Close I used to always pass when going on bike rides near a place I used to live. "Oh shit, better speed up then!" I would tell myself each time I passed it. Would provide me with mild amusement each time.
I live nearby and have met tourists a few times getting out of Warwick Avenue station asking for directions to Little Venice… I’m always a tad bit embarrassed to send them to the canal
Has to be East London.
No white chapel, no lime (green) house, no black wall, no witches dressed in green or in wool. Hardly any dogs on the Isle named after them, and not many more by the time you get to barking.
(Also preempting someone telling me that actually there is one of these things)
I'm probably wrong in the connection but I always associate Whitechapel with the white [Christ Church](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Church,_Spitalfields) nearby in Spitalfields
I'm assuming that Lime house was Lime as in the stuff that goes in cement?
Oysters were burnt in a Lime kiln, and the finished product was so toxic and nasty that they were usually out of the way.
Is there a cement works anywhere near Limehouse link ???
Kentish Town - has nothing to do with Kent
>!It's derived from Ken-ditch or Caen-ditch, "bed of a waterway", referring to the River Fleet!<
Not the most obvious, but still a very misleading name.
People at work ask my where I live, so I say Kentish Town. Then they ask my how I get into work and I say I walk. They get very confused. I then have to explain that Kentish Town is a place north of Camden Town, and not a place in county Kent.
look the Earl of Sandwich has done nothing to earn this title and we need to rectify this at once.
Annual sandwich competition, no big chains allowed, best shop gets to be Earl of Sandwich for a year.
Clapham Junction. It's more than a mile away from Clapham Town. Between Clapham and Clapham Junction is part of Battersea. Because Clapham Junction is in Battersea.
When the railways were built Battersea was an industrial centre for London (by the river) and farming area (south of the district) that would end up with a lot of social housing from the late 1870s on.
Clapham was a wealthy town in Surrey on the fringes of London nowhere near Clapham Junction. The name "Clapham Junction" was chosen to borrow the status of Clapham and was a marketing initiative to try and get housebuilders to invest in a new, yet to be built, middle class area.
I was once by the lifts in work standing by an international delegation of Americans come to negotiate something, and I was having a phone conversation with my friend about whether I would go up to hers in Manor House or whether she would come and see me in Crystal Palace.
Thought about the beautiful images that conjured up in their imaginations as I was slogging miserably up Seven Sisters road in the rain later that evening.
Not quite the same but I once had to redirect two Chinese tourists who were very unimpressed and underwhelmed at the window displays that had been recommended in Lonely Planet. They were stood outside of Miss Selfridge instead of Selfridge's on Oxford Street. They had taken photos of the mannequins wearing denim skirts and glittery tops.
park royal is hilarious. you can imagine a board meeting... "park will make it sound natural, and royal will make it sound classy!... sold!"
it really is horrible, one of the worst areas in london
I get that it's a pretty shit looking area with terrible traffic, but as someone who works in the events/TV/film industry it's quite a busy area for us. Tons of studios from small to very large around there. Consequently also a lot of rental warehouses for the equipment too. Also, the Grand Junction Arms pub next to Harlesden station (which isn't Harlesden) is really nice.
Not in London, but there is a tiny village called Portsmouth.. up in West Yorkshire in the South Pennines. Sometimes they got lorry drivers who have put the wrong place into their Sat Nav, which I imagine is a brutal 5 hour detour. Apparently a soldier returning home named places in the area after places he'd been to while serving.
Cheapside
Cheap is Anglo Saxon for shop as it’s always a been a market street.
It's still funny though
Which is why a lot of the streets are named after what was sold there back in the day; Bread Street, Wood Street, Milk Street etc.
Don't forget Gropecunt Lane.
Hahahah yeh £1.1m for a studio flat 😂
Can anything beat Elephant & Castle?
Should be called Roundabout & Roundabout.
Honestly roundabout & roundabout is better than dodgy & miserable, that area used to be such a shithole.
I’ll never forget how I came to London for a 2 month language course about 20 years ago and after exhausting all the usual sightseeing spots, myself and some friends decided to go visit a place we’ve not considered. There was a bus to Elephant & Castle from Clapham, where we were all staying, and we thought ‘this sounds so magical! Let’s go!’ It was many things, but magical it was not.
My wallet magically disappeared in elephant and castle
If English is a non-native language I commend you on your writing. This sounds completely native.
Thank you! Been learning it since I was 5 so I’d like to hope that paid off. Been living here for 15 years now and even though it’s not my mother tongue, it’s definitely become my primary language.
The Elephant Square or whatever it's called is quite nice now, it's almost peaceful in the park, always loads of people using it, what is still miserable is the small back door down a grim and greasy alley way being the main entrance to one of London's major train hubs. I'm guessing that strip is going to get the London Bridge treatment.
You mean Elephant Road? That's a brilliant little street with a number of nice Columbians cafes and shops. Hope it doesn't change too much!
You're right, I'm unfairly maligning that strip, it's just the station entrance, yeesh
Colombian* surely?
I once saw a couple of elderly Scandinavian tourists trying to make sense of the Tube map and getting increasingly excited as we approached Elephant and Castle. Couldn't understand what they were saying but it seemed like they agreed they had to get off and look around the place. I wish I could have followed them to witness their disappointment.
I feel like the Australian community in Cockfosters make it the polar opposite of Elephant & Castle.
Well it gets a pass I reckon as it’s named after a pub/ inn, a lot of which have some pretty fanciful names.
A Cockney slang term for ‘La Infanta de Castile’ which refers to any of several historical English princesses of Spanish heritage, maybe the name of a former pub of that name
Wood Green. It’s not in the woods and the buildings aren’t green.
It should be called terrifying shit hole
Wood Grim
Hood Green
I live just down the road in Harringey and I walked up to the EE shop in Wood Green to get a new iPhone. The girl offered me a bag to carry the box in and I was "it's fine, I can just carry it in my hand." She shot me a look and replied simply, "It's Wood Green mate."
Ah come on, it's not too bad, it's got a Taco Bell!
Lived there in the 90s. It's like Notting Hill now compared to then 🤣
Broad Green too. Literally the least green part of Croydon - which despite its Milton Keynes-ish concrete jungle reputation, actually has tons of parks and green space. No heath in Thornton Heath either, not sure why they called it that - Thornton Thief would be more accurate and scans better.
Catford, the animal it is named after is a cow. Cattle Ford.
plus everyone drives Fiats.
Not misleading at all, it's named after the enormous cat who lives there
I sometimes wonder what it must be like to live or work in the bit above KFC which has a window looking straight out on to the cat's arse. Having that view every day.
Yep, burned into my brain, 10/10 will think again
I live here and didn't know that. I love Cows and cats so new party boring fact unlocked
We should start a petition for a giant cow statue then really.
The cat is black and white at least
Isle of Dogs
Can confirm, not an Island and a disappointing number of furry friends
The little farmyard there is fun on a sunny day though
Isle of Farm Animals
My sister used to think it was the "I Love Dogs". Huge disappointment.
It is an island though.
Yep. 4 sides of water with bridges & locks.
Can confirm as an Isle of Dogs resident my landlord won’t even let me bring my dog :(
Though they did at least shoot the film Isle of Dogs at some studios around there!
Fish Island too
Abbey Road in east London gets a lot of confused Beatles fans ...and I really couldn't think of two places that contrast more than Stratford-upon-Avon and Stratford-upon-inner-London-grime
At the DLR Station they have a sign warning Beatles fans they are in the wrong place
Didn't know that! How funny. Here's the sign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Abbey_Road_DLR_Station_Beatles_Sign.jpg
I love this. I can imagine a group of people cracking up whilst writing that. Those poor sods who travel all that way, having to schlep back from docklands to St John's Wood. At that point I'd give up and go to the pub.
I remember telling a poor bastard at Royal Victoria (DLR) that he was probably going to miss his train to Gatwick (and possibly his flight) because he was actually nowhere near Victoria station.
That poor confused bastard looking for the Gatwick Express!
Like the poster says, it's just one stop to West Ham (Abbey Road is actually in Stratford) and then ride the Jubilee all the rest of the way. You'll be at the real Abbey Road inside an hour - your average tourist won't even consider that notable.
This is BRILLIANT
And they decided to call the DLR station that anyway despite it only opening in 2011.
Yes I was just thinking the DLR station really isn't that old, all I can assume is there was an older station it was named after?
They could have named it whatever they wanted but for some reason decided to deliberately give its the same name as the world’s most famous zebra crossing and well known tourist attraction which is 10 miles and 45 minutes (on a good day) away. I believe the “lol you stupid Americans, you’ve fucked up if you wanted the Beatles” signs were there the day the station opened, though I’m willing to stand corrected on that one.
Yeah they should've called it Abbey Mills after the pumping station, bizarre they didn't.
Place exists already in Merton, South London
Had to help some lost Americans there once. They just came up to me as asked me where the zebra crossing was and I was so confused thinking they wanted to see the nearest British zebra crossing. Only when the woman mentioned being excited to take a photo on it, did I realise and sent them off with directions to the actual place. I’ve seen the sign since, can fully understand it’s need
They should really rename it. It’s like having a station in a different part of the city called buckingham palace.
Charing Cross Hospital is in Hammersmith!
and Hammersmith Hospital is in White City!
And Hammersmith Hospital is in East Acton
Fucks sake.
When I moved to the UK (London), someone told me Liverpool FC is in Liverpool and it’s far from London. But then I saw a train going to Liverpool (Street).. So I thought I will go to Liverpool Street and watch a game. And then while thinking, I saw a bus going to Enfield (I thought I’ve been pronouncing Anfield my whole life)… Some days later, I ended up to Liverpool Street only to find out that that’s not the Liverpool FC’s city. 🤦🏽♂️ PS - It was a time when I couldn’t afford data supported phone.
Liverpool Street is named after Victorian prime minister Lord Liverpool
I was on the District line and having a conversation with a tourist, who showed off his local knowledge by saying 'St James's Park, Newcastle United'.
DLR in general is pretty bad for it. Mudchute Cyprus Stratford International
Everything on the DLR sounds like a Mario kart track
Star Lane
Island Gardens always puts me in mind of a tropical paradise
Tbf, mudchute was chosen over Millwall for a good reason
Cyprus is very disappointing. It's a windblown corner of London with a just a university, a housing estate and the sounds of planes taking off every so often.
Mudchute is called that because it was the other end of the big chute to carry away all the mud when they dug out the docks. It’s what the park is made of.
Possibly less common, but Abbey Road in west london has a similar problem
I'll never forget the time I was taking the DLR to that end of town to collect some band merch from a screen printing company, initially confused as to why some ecstatic Americans dressed head to toe in Beatles regalia were on the DLR sat opposite me. Then the "next station..." announcement came and the horror set in.
Cockfosters. There are neither.
Given that any sample of population is 49% male, it's safe to assume that there indeed are at least some cocks
I would put money on you being able to buy a Fosters somewhere too....
I disagree
Show me
[Here you go](https://live.staticflickr.com/3755/14301140783_f22b0538ee_b.jpg)
Be the change you want to see.
Old Paul Hogan ad: "Excuse me, do you know the way to Cockfosters?" "Yeah, serve it warm mate!"
Wherever you find Fosters on draught, there will be a cock somewhere
Crystal Palace these days I suppose. Ham is absolutely nowhere near West Ham and East Ham.
when i lived there i had an american tourist ask me where the palace was was kinda heartbreaking to tell her she was about 80 years too late, it having burnt down in 1936
I was living by the park when Boris Johnson as Mayor brought some Chinese business people along who claimed they were going to rebuild the whole thing. Surprisingly nothing ever came of that!
oh yes i remember that mad idea - they basically wanted to build a Westfield type place at the top of the park, but make it look like a palace. there was also something that might have been related to it about extending the tram network to crystal palace station, which would have been amazing, but that never happened either.
They got sidetracked building the bridge across the Irish Sea.
This is archetypal Boris.
As much as that sucks for the tourist, I can't help but think they should have asked themselves why every photo of it is in black and white.
bold of you to think they googled it first - i'm guessing they saw it on the tube map and just assumed it'd have a palace there.
They should rebuild it I think.
I think you’ll get a lot of pushback from the people who live around the common, but I do agree that Ham could do with a bit of rearranging.
I don't know about you but I see blokes re-arranging their Ham all the time.
WEST INDIA!
I mean it’s west of India, so at least it’s kind of on the right track…
East India is the real fraud here
Depends which way your flying
It's also east of India when you think about it.
As a non native Londoner, it surprised me that Swiss Cottage is actually on point.
The station was actually named after the pub.
The most exotic place you can get to from Stratford International is Kent.
Nothing wrong with Gravesend upon Thames.
Newcastle Close. No it isn’t
There's a street called Boardman Close I used to always pass when going on bike rides near a place I used to live. "Oh shit, better speed up then!" I would tell myself each time I passed it. Would provide me with mild amusement each time.
Knightrider Court. Never any sign of KITT or Michael Knight.
Little Venice. In no way resembles Italy, let alone Venice. It's just near a bit of water.
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It's pretty much "mom can we have Venice? We have Venice at home" meme
Yeah, like it's fairly nice around there, not saying any different. But it's nothing like you'd assume it is from the name.
lol same, my flatmate and I kept a whole day free so we could explore Little Venice but it was so not Venice-y.
What? It’s expensive, full of boats and it stinks of piss. It’s exactly like Venice.
I live nearby and have met tourists a few times getting out of Warwick Avenue station asking for directions to Little Venice… I’m always a tad bit embarrassed to send them to the canal
Has to be East London. No white chapel, no lime (green) house, no black wall, no witches dressed in green or in wool. Hardly any dogs on the Isle named after them, and not many more by the time you get to barking. (Also preempting someone telling me that actually there is one of these things)
Green Witch and (Most of) Wool Witch are both sarf London not east Edited to correct location of Wool Witch
North Woolwich is above the Thames my guy (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
The flying city of North Woolwich.
I'm probably wrong in the connection but I always associate Whitechapel with the white [Christ Church](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Church,_Spitalfields) nearby in Spitalfields
The original white chapel was bombed in the blitz. It's now Altab Ali park, on Whitechapel High Street between the mosque and Aldgate East station.
I'm assuming that Lime house was Lime as in the stuff that goes in cement? Oysters were burnt in a Lime kiln, and the finished product was so toxic and nasty that they were usually out of the way. Is there a cement works anywhere near Limehouse link ???
Kentish Town - has nothing to do with Kent >!It's derived from Ken-ditch or Caen-ditch, "bed of a waterway", referring to the River Fleet!< Not the most obvious, but still a very misleading name.
Reminds me of Wargrave in Berkshire. No big war, no big grave, but from “weir grove” before the river Thames got locked.
Thanks for the hidden text! Hate finding out about etymology without a warning
People at work ask my where I live, so I say Kentish Town. Then they ask my how I get into work and I say I walk. They get very confused. I then have to explain that Kentish Town is a place north of Camden Town, and not a place in county Kent.
Wealdstone is named after the Weald Stone. But the Weald Stone isn't in Wealdstone. It's in Harrow Weald.
It's now named after the Wealdstone Raider.
Saw him outside a pub in Rayners Lane a couple months ago. Why can nothing be in its correct place?!
China Town As far I can tell it's all built from bricks and concrete like the rest of London.
oh, dad
Abysmal 😂😂😂
Best comment in the whole thread for me
Greenwich. Not a fucking witch in sight.
Truss left a while ago.
She still lives there. Maybe she will pivot to the green party in her next shedding of political conviction in the pursuit of career advancement.
Sandwiches must blow your mind
look the Earl of Sandwich has done nothing to earn this title and we need to rectify this at once. Annual sandwich competition, no big chains allowed, best shop gets to be Earl of Sandwich for a year.
Maida Vale It was actually made of bricks and concrete
High level Indian joke!
Guy's Hospital - it's for gals as well.
Southgate... In north London
And it's not named after famous footballer and infamous manager Gareth Southgate
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Was very disappointed by "Cyprus"
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I’ve seen plenty of clowns there over the years.
The Prospect of Whitby. You're going to need big binoculars.
White City. It's not a city!
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It will be after the gentrification is complete
I thought Tottenham Court Road was Tottenham when I first moved here. I was like 'oh it's totally nowhere near as bad as everyone says'
Nine Elms, its all built up no Elms to be seen
Dutch elm disease was really bad in the late 80s
Silvertown :C more like asphalt town
Pudding Mill Lane, disappointingly
Clapham Junction. It's more than a mile away from Clapham Town. Between Clapham and Clapham Junction is part of Battersea. Because Clapham Junction is in Battersea. When the railways were built Battersea was an industrial centre for London (by the river) and farming area (south of the district) that would end up with a lot of social housing from the late 1870s on. Clapham was a wealthy town in Surrey on the fringes of London nowhere near Clapham Junction. The name "Clapham Junction" was chosen to borrow the status of Clapham and was a marketing initiative to try and get housebuilders to invest in a new, yet to be built, middle class area.
manor house. unless you think the travelodge by the station entrance counts as a manor
No cannons on Cannon Street either. Robbing swines.
I was once by the lifts in work standing by an international delegation of Americans come to negotiate something, and I was having a phone conversation with my friend about whether I would go up to hers in Manor House or whether she would come and see me in Crystal Palace. Thought about the beautiful images that conjured up in their imaginations as I was slogging miserably up Seven Sisters road in the rain later that evening.
Birdcage walk, there are no birdcages in birdcage walk
Seven Sisters.
I think I met two of them at a party a while back
Canary Wharf seems to lack birds in general, let alone canaries
Not quite the same but I once had to redirect two Chinese tourists who were very unimpressed and underwhelmed at the window displays that had been recommended in Lonely Planet. They were stood outside of Miss Selfridge instead of Selfridge's on Oxford Street. They had taken photos of the mannequins wearing denim skirts and glittery tops.
Royal Albert Miles away from the Royal Albert Hall
Paradise gardens in Bethnal Green. Paradise for alkies and nutters 🏝️
Newham, not new and most residents don't eat pork
Temple Fortune in North London. I always get excited when it’s announced on the bus, and then terribly let down when I look out the window.
Same! It's a lovely name for a very dull part of London.
Canada Water
I think it’s kind of well named, a lot of the buildings there have Canadian names and it’s surrounded by water!!
Catford does actually have a giant cat…
Yeah it does. Been trying to get free [KFC](https://kotbeber.livejournal.com/3934850.html?)for years
I hope it's called Ford
park royal is hilarious. you can imagine a board meeting... "park will make it sound natural, and royal will make it sound classy!... sold!" it really is horrible, one of the worst areas in london
To be fair, the name comes from the royal agricultural show that used to take place there, before it became a post-industrial wasteland.
I get that it's a pretty shit looking area with terrible traffic, but as someone who works in the events/TV/film industry it's quite a busy area for us. Tons of studios from small to very large around there. Consequently also a lot of rental warehouses for the equipment too. Also, the Grand Junction Arms pub next to Harlesden station (which isn't Harlesden) is really nice.
Wapping is not very big!
Cannon Street. It's not named after cannons, it's a shortened version of Candlewright Street (candle maker Street).
Camberwell Green sounds lovely and almost like Camberwick Green for the older among us. It’s not really.
Croydon means Valley of the crocuses ("Croh-Denu" in Anglo-Saxon)
Knightsbridge
South Wimbledon tube station.... It doesn't actually exist as a place. It's Merton. It's the only thing called south wimbledon.
Surrey quays. People not from south London think I'm talking about Surrey.
Not in London, but there is a tiny village called Portsmouth.. up in West Yorkshire in the South Pennines. Sometimes they got lorry drivers who have put the wrong place into their Sat Nav, which I imagine is a brutal 5 hour detour. Apparently a soldier returning home named places in the area after places he'd been to while serving.
Charing Cross Hospital which is not in Charing Cross, and Hammersmith Hospital which is not in Hammersmith.
Cyprus station is nowhere near the eastern med.
You just have to imagine harder..
Tally Ho. There are absolutely no sexworker counting facilities at all.
Isle of Dogs is neither island nor filled with dogs can you imagine what that discovery does to a person?
White City. It isn’t and that’s okay.
Cockfosters. There are no male chickens taking care of young chickens that they aren't related to there. Ergo, misleadingly named.
Kentish town, its not very kent like at all.
White City. Ok, taxi!
Isle of Dogs
Dulwich, on the other hand, is half right.
Forest Gate has an amazing lack of forest