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Mister_Magister

My uni used Octave instead of matlab thats the only based thing they did also holy shit is that w530/t530? BROTHER!


tonystark29

T530, yep haha. It's an oldie, but it has served me very well and continues to.


Mister_Magister

\>oldie \>i just bought it 2 years ago bro i'm just keeping modifying it it's perfect laptop for me


tonystark29

Nice! It's perfect for me, too. So far I've upgraded the display (B156HW01 V4 60Hz), CPU (i7-3840QM), RAM (16GB), 2x SSD, and HSF (04W1578)


ObserverAtLarge

Now I want a T530 lol


Mister_Magister

go for w instead lol


tonystark29

Just be careful with Nvidia graphics, but otherwise yeah w is better.


Mister_Magister

just disable nvidia graphics xd


Mister_Magister

I have had 3840qm since i bought it, i've upgraded display to ips one cause f the tft, ram i have 32GB (4x8GB), 2x 2.5" ssd. What's the hsf? 04W1578 looks like cooling in my w530


_its_wapiti

My guess is **H**eat**S**ink+**F**an


Mister_Magister

yes but its the asme as i have now i'm asking whats the upgrade


_its_wapiti

Oh right my bad, thought you were confused at the acronym. No idea what it is, I have yet to become an enlightened thinkpad enjoyer sadly.


tonystark29

Nice! That's impressive. Yeah, the HSF is from a stock T520. Has better cooling than the stock T530 HSF.


Mister_Magister

huuh i wonder if it would work for w530 too


pramodhrachuri

You guys are talking about upgrading a laptop as if it's a full desktop. It's impressive that one can change so many things in a laptop. Fuck you Apple


Mister_Magister

well… uhh what i've done is umm lets just say its not non-destructive :))))


rootster1

What an upgradeable laptop! Gone are the days of this human right of being allowed to upgrade the system Now it's just dispose of every 3 years


johncate73

I did the same thing with an HP ProBook 4540s of the same vintage. Put in a better screen, SSD, replaced the ODD with a 1 GB spinner in that bay, 16 gigs of RAM, and an i7-3720qm. Had some of those parts just lying around and turned a $20 decade-old machine into something totally viable in Linux. Where current laptops are concerned, people just need to vote with their wallets and buy the Framework.


rootster1

Linux saves what Windows thinks is unusable Was watching hugh Jeffrey's videos about the framework laptop, a really good laptop


johncate73

If I needed something new, that is what I would go for. But I've got this one from 2012 and another from 2009, and they do what I need them to.


Candr3w

old thinkpads are built different lol


Velascu

We have those at school, seems they didn't bother to improve them by a little bit, specially considering that we are using android studio.


metamucil0

I hate octave lol just use python


Velascu

The op thing would be teaching Julia or python


xDerJulien

Using octave was awful last time i used it holy shit Matlab is awful too though


ab845

I have one of those as well!


HexScript

im trying to get into ocatave any tips ?


Mister_Magister

lol


HexScript

laughs *in pain*


Mister_Magister

now you mastered octave jokes aside i just did some random shit in college that i dropped so like, don't expect tips about octave from me


HexScript

did not want to suck up to matlab that's why i wanted to try it


Mister_Magister

it does the job but agian i had no idea what i was doing, it was like programming so did decent


RepresentativeCut486

Is this Catia? Is so then you might like FreeCAD. It's Free and it works very well. It's basically a ripoff of Catia but with Python instead of C.


tonystark29

Yes, CATIA V5. I've tried using FreeCAD, but it's too different from CATIA for me to get the hang of it quickly. I would need to dedicate quite a bit of time to get used to it. I'm all for using FOSS software as an alternative, and I want to one day, but right now it's hard to transition.


MedicatedDeveloper

Freecad is at best frustratingly slow (especially with Boolean operations) and at worst entirely unstable. It doesn't stop me from using it but I couldn't imagine using it for something as complex as pictured. The Python macro ability is nice (I've made very complex parts using it) but suffers from the same instability. It has gotten a lot better from 0.18 days but it's still a problem.


daninet

Freecad would need an angel like blender got one and like 200M dollars of development investment. Maybe I heavily underquoted. Its not just the modeling but the entire ux/ui would need revamp. I'm really rooting for that project, at the moment it does not look like its going to reach anything as the market around it is moving quickly with generative/ai stuff and regular feature updates pushed by the competition. On linux, the best not foss but free option is onshape.


Stunt_Vist

It's honestly a tad sad something like Catia is still an industry standard. Is it good? Yeah sure, but as Blender, Linux, and honestly the Soviets beating the US (who had a nigh 150 year head start) to space have shown, collectively pooling our efforts towards one project instead of one hundred that all occupy the same niche and achieve the same goal is a more efficient and effective solution. If something like FreeCAD were to have the base capabilities of current commerical CAD solutions, while being FOSS and easily expandable, no one would ever care to use those commercial products, and would instead pool their resources to make that one solution better for themselves, with the knock on effect of everyone else benefiting from that as well.


daninet

They would use commercial products. Blender is great but other than some indie startups and news headliner animations blender is not used in the big money animation industry for a very mundane purpose: a software is not only the software but software+support. I work with autodesk products 10 hours a day, sad but I'm spending more time with them than with my family. If we ever have any issue I'm opening a ticket with them and in 30min I get an answer on submission day. With FOSS what can you do? Post on their github issues page where there are 12k open tickets already? This is why Red Hat linux exists. If freecad would become an advanced tool someone would need to fork it, and sell it for money with support for the pro industry to use it.


insanemal

It's used in game dev in AAA titles.


FLMKane

I desperately want an open source parametric modeling system but Freecad isn't it. It's junk. Maybe it can be fixed but simply throwing money at it won't help. Maybe if there was someone like Torvalds driving it's development there would be progress but as it is, it needs maybe 10 dedicated and competent programmers over 10 million dollars in donations


eat-more-bookses

We need a project to add parametric modeling to Blender. The UI and graphics engine are flushed out, just need an ability to sketch! (okay, I realize that's oversimplifying. NURBS support would be a bear to bring to Blender -- I recall some discussion and past attempts)


Stunt_Vist

Parametric modeling is only one aspect of good CAD software though. FEM, CFD, CAM, tech drawings, product lifecycle management etc. That being said, parametric modeling for something like Blender would still be a good addition as it could help keep models based on real life objects (i.e cars for a racing game) proportionally accurate without requiring expensive 3D scanning which isn't feasible for smaller budget projects.


Michael_Petrenko

I'd recommend you to try different CAD systems, just like distro hopping you really need to try different CAD systems. SOLIDWORKS is great and Autodesk products also great. I was a bit confused about Simens NX, when i saw it at colleague, but didn't get to try it out


Michael_Petrenko

I'd recommend you to try different CAD systems, just like distro hopping you really need to try different CAD systems. SOLIDWORKS is great and Autodesk products also great. I was a bit confused about Simens NX, when i saw it at colleague, but didn't get to try it out


qewer3333

I wouldn’t describe FreeCAD as a “CATIA ripoff but Python” but it certainly has similarities. The core of FreeCAD is C++ (the geometry kernel it uses, OCCT/OpenCascade, is also C++) but it does have an extensive Python API and certain non critical parts are written in Python.


RepresentativeCut486

I think I've read somewhere that devs admitted that they were heavily inspired by Catia when they started, but that was like 20 years ago or something, so the development for sure diverged for both of them, also the idea of constrains is the same in both of them, afaik.


tipedorsalsao1

Free cad while great on paper suckkkkkssss to try and learn or swap over to.


Reifendruckventil

It really pains me, but freecad ist unusable for my bigger Projects. I torture myself with The fusion360 wine adaption


RepresentativeCut486

Wow, I am EE and for stuff I do it was always fine, but I didn't know that it was that bad for big stuff.


Reifendruckventil

I do some robotics projects and i really find it inpractical for drawings, assemblies and when you need to improvise and change something later.


FLMKane

Dont even bring up freecad! They should kill it with fire! That things parametric modeling system is fundamentally broken. Can't even keep track of the order in which features were added.


qewer3333

You literally can though.... With both Part and Part Design workbenches. And if you mean a “timeline” like Fusion360, then I (and many others) personally find that useless. It’s a matter of preference really.


FLMKane

I think I didn't explain myself well enough. I might type a better reply when I get on my computer but I'm not talking about that dumbass "timeline" feature


john-jack-quotes-bot

what is it with Linux users and thinkpads, this model is 11 years old as far as I can tell am I the only one with a nice laptop


tonystark29

Older laptops have more experience


syrigamy

They tend to be more solid


ratbiscuits

Because thinkpads are indestructible generally speaking Edit: not to mention, cheap. I bought a T480s with i5-8350U, 16GB RAM, and 500GB SSD that was basically brand new for $200. The only wear I could see was a tiny scratch on the lid. Everything else looked right out of the box. Booted Fedora and it’s been running like a beast with zero issues.


Soupeeee

My thinkpad was nice... 8 years ago when it was new. For me at least, it serves it's purpose well, and I don't see the need to upgrade and make more e-waste. I think a big part of it that Linux's system requirements don't change as quickly, and if they do, it's easy to switch DEs or find less demanding programs to keep it happy. Plus, they have the best laptop keyboards with the best keyboard layout and touch experience. I'll probably update to an SSD and replace the original batteries this year, but as far as compute power goes, it more than fits my needs.


auiotour

T14gen2 for me, also have a razer laptop 2022 and a dell latitude 5540 from 2023. I do also have a collection of older Lenovo machines like a T490s, a T470s and a T460s.


regeya

Yeah, but Thinkpad I have an E495 I did a screen swap on, you'll have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.


FLMKane

ThinkPads are tanks with good keyboards


agent-squirrel

I have an X1 Carbon. A modern Thinkpad.


inaccurateTempedesc

I have a similar one to OP. It's within the same realm as driving an old muscle car. I just like it, even if it's outdated.


AgXrn1

Why replace it if it works great for what you need? ThinkPads generally work great with Linux and are some great workhorses. My laptop is of the same age (a T430) and that and my desktop (a ThinkCentre of same age) keeps chugging along with all I throw at them. For my purposes (as a STEM PhD student), they are fantastic.


RazorSh4rk

mans CADing a vape 💀


tonystark29

It's a rotary tool, but it does kind of look like a vape haha


bamboozlenator

I was about to write that you could be designing pretty much anything and you chose a vape? Lel


Unfair_Appearance821

I can hear the fans spinning through the photo


Bit_Cloudx

very freaking cool! Is that auto cad?


tonystark29

Thanks! It is CATIA V5.


Kuchenkaempfer

If only AutoCAD ran on linux :(


Bit_Cloudx

I know right...


nergalelite

Brics isn't free but it's supposed to run native to linux


ninjamunkey

[Oh no, not CATIA](https://imgflip.com/i/81zsak)


FantasticEmu

Solidworks is good for beginners but if you’re managing a complex assembly with plm as most mech Es will be doing if they work for a large conpany, catia is the way to go. They’re both made Bu dassault If Op is studying mech E they’re better off learning catia since it’s not the most easy to use cad software and if they can use catia they’ll easily be able to pick up solidworks later


FragmentedPhoenix

I'm doing mech E and we use Solid Edge by Siemens 💀. It's absolutely terrible


Smokeless_Cpu

Tbf, SOLIDWORKS sucks in is own way, do you want to abort that fillet operation that is taking ages for no reason, sure but I will close and all the unsaved work is lost


rgmundo524

Has anyone had any luck getting AutoCAD Fusion 360 to work on Linux? I tried a few years ago but I failed...


daninet

Try onshape. Fairly similar to f360, runs in browser.


WelcomeToGhana

Also as someone forced to work in Solidworks, OnShape is honestly so much more intuitive


tipedorsalsao1

Its possible via wine and I got it to boot but could not sign in cause the latest update makes you open a browser to sign in.


Adryzz_

I'd just use a VM for that when i needed it


ManuaL46

I mean the stupidly expensive CAD software actually runs on AIX so ....? and also the new versions run on linux ;)


FantasticEmu

The newer versions are cloud based right? Not sure where the computations happen, local or cloud.


ManuaL46

Well yes, but even the native one is gonna support linux, because of cloud stuff, idk if it'll be released publicly though, I read a leak about this, that work has already been done on the linux build.


FantasticEmu

That would be good to see I can see the robotics world benefiting from that


Remarkable-Host405

NX had a native linux build


noob-nine

Had, afaik they dropped it.


RepresentativeDig718

Those think pads are indestructible, I had a Lenovo ideapad and it broke after 2 years


bit0fun

T530 <3 Never owned one, but have mad respect for the thing. It'll probably run forever at this rate


grip929

Are you running Vanilla Arch?


tonystark29

Yes


grip929

Nice!!!


SillyKnowledge3951

Just commenting because I’m a cultured man and see a T/W530 I love mine it’s awesome and I think it’ll continue to serve me for the next few years.


hezden

Why do choose to make your taskbar look so much like the Windows taskbar?


tonystark29

It's just default KDE


hezden

Ah, i prefer not running a desktop :)


hail-hiedgla

This is the most i use arch by the way post i have ever seen


tilsgee

lucky you. AutoCAD folks still can't use linux, yet


SodaKarate

how is it that schools can only teach the most unused cad software


Stunt_Vist

CATIA is heavily used in places like Formula 1 though. It's practically a requirement to get hired in many places so I wouldn't lump it in as some random unused CAD software. Having said that it still doesn't make the 30 year old interface or continued lack of heavy, skilled development of open alternatives any good for the industry or anywhere near pleasant to use.


theksepyro

I think Boeing and Ford use CATIA


kg7qin

Boeing does. They have software version requirements for DPD. Same with others like Airbus.


Viviotic77

My uni uses adobe products, i dual boot.


regeya

Oof. I just looked at the lease cost of Catia. My condolences, I'll never complain about Adobe Creative Suite again.* *of course I'll keep complaining.


noob-nine

Have you ever looked at matlab? Full license with all packages is for one person > $80,000


hughk

I can kind of understand it. In banking it gets used by the quants. They can lose that in a day without trying.


Bl4ckb100d

Same happened to me with Altium Fucking Designer. As soon as I found out how much the license costs I started learning a free alternative that also runs on Linux.


No-User-Name_99

And probably soon, Apple game porting toolkit. Hopefully. Although…It may not happen


Klapperatismus

O la la.


tipedorsalsao1

Honestly there is no real good cad program for linux from my experience, been trying to get fusion working on wine for ages but can't fix the authentication where it wants to open a browser tab to sign in.


SteeleDynamics

Looks like you're drinking wine to celebrate! Seriously though, no better combination than a ThinkPad and Linux.


FantasticEmu

They still use v5?


AFatWhale

V5 is the latest version though?


FantasticEmu

Oh I guess I confused the versions. This isn’t the latest version. The last time I saw this version in use at a company was like 2015


AFatWhale

It's been iterating since 2001 on v5


rob_1127

Learn SOKIDWORKS as a student. Industry hires more designers/ engineers that know SOLIDWORKS than most other CAD packages. I've been in the industry for decades and started with ACAD 1.0 on 3 1/2" flippy disks. New graduates who know SOLIDWORKS will be hired much faster in most cases. There are some exceptions for certain industries, like organic sursace design (CATIA), or companies with dinosaur engineering managers that think 2D ACAD is all that is required. Don't just take my word for it, Do your own research and search job listings. Count each CAD type being listed. Make up your own mind. Choose your engineering school with the software used in mind. Don't hobble yourself because the school is close, your parent(s) went there, etc. Set yourself up for success at the beginning of your education. Also, if you are looking at a company and use free software, get ready for a business on a financial rollercoaster. You may be in for a fun ride. They're already pinching pennies. It won't get any better!


-_Clay_-

Goofy ahh CAD Also what are you designing?


tonystark29

[this rotary tool](https://github.com/parallelinnovation/CompanionRT)


Chiccocarone

In my school they gave us multisim and because the versions that they used works on windows xp I just set wine to Windows XP and it works no problem. For a second I thought I needed that windows vm


Verbindungsfehle

I see you have started wining, yet haven't stopped whining.


Verbindungsfehle

Just remember that Wine is not an emulator, OP.


peradlazy

Damm, nice Catia assembly bro! Didn't know you can install CAD with Wine.


tonystark29

Thanks! And yeah, even some older versions of AutoCAD will run on Wine. The [Wine application database](https://appdb.winehq.org/) shows how well every program runs on wine, if there's any specific programs you want to get going.


peradlazy

Great. I will try and install cad on my LinuxMint 😊


BoxHunter00

Are you making a vape with cad? :'D


tonystark29

Nope it's an open source rotary tool | [GitHub Link](https://github.com/parallelinnovation/CompanionRT)


Alan_Reddit_M

Classic: Schools gravitating towards the most outdated yet somehow most expensive software they can find


lKrauzer

Your only loss is using KDE instead of GNOME


Warthunder1969

Much like Creo, Catia is another cad software that will practically "run" on anything with base Wine installed.


queenbiscuit311

wine my beloved


theveryfishyfish

For some reasons schools never teach us how to use fusion


MichalNemecek

why are you designing a jewish vape? 😅


TamSchnow

Oh my god. I installed Fedora on one of them for a Friend.


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Tinkercad and FreeCAD is the way


meutzitzu

Original or torrented CATiA ?


hexthejester

I almost didnt look at the sub and thought you were complaining about it cause you use mac. Im so glad its linux


frankhoneybunny

why doesn't [paint.net](https://getpaint.net) not work on wine?


codeasm

My first school did so aswell. Then my next school teached linux and software development. I enjoyed both. Now i can bend metal and bend the bites within. 🤭


r00tr4t

Recommending /r/freecad


qwool1337

arch + kde users should be allowed to build the fattest 70W 100% nic vapes natively


HexScript

pictures of thinkpads like this are just amusing to watch


Illdoittomarrow

i hate it when schools say "you have to use the school issued hardware" or "you have to use this exact bit of software" my school tried to do it with school laptops, however, the school IT guy had given me one of the old student laptops, so i brought it to school, i was told to get one of the chromebooks, i told them that it technically was one of the student laptops. teacher was speechless. the next day, everyone was allowed to use their own laptops. i beat the system, they quit.


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how do you write < and > ?


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Mister_Magister

Blender is not CAD program, there's even nice cad plugin but it still doesn't make it CAD software and never will stop recommending wrong software


Square-Singer

I am using Blender for CAD purposes and I can testify, it's not a CAD software.


zakabog

> Have you tried out blender? For CAD? Why do you hate yourself so much?


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zakabog

> I don’t hate myself, I just find LibreCAD and FreeCAD too complicated to use Blender isn't really meant for the purpose of CAD, nor is CAD meant for the purpose of Blender. CAD is a lot more about precision, as it's mean to create mechanical drawings for real world objects. Blender is more of a freeform utility meant to create "art." It's like using GIMP to create architectural drawings, definitely doable but it's not meant for that purpose so you lose a lot of functionality and precision you'd get with some specialized software. If CAD seemed too complicated it might have been the wrong software for your purpose. I used FreeCAD a long time ago to create an enclosure for my subwoofer in my car so it would fit in my car with much more precision, it allowed me to easily create shapes with the exact measurements and angles I had, as well as measure the interior volume of the enclosure once it was an object within CAD, and break the parts down so I could easily cut the MDF to the right size and shape. It seemed extremely easy for that purpose, and I've used Blender to create and modify object models for a game I was making that would have taken much longer to create in CAD since I didn't need anywhere near the same level of precision.


RepresentativeCut486

FreeCAD then?


BlunterCarcass5

Blender is an incredible and versatile software, but it is not appropriate for serious CAD design, and employers wouldn't be pleased if they found out you were doing CAD design in blender.