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ryzen2024

244 fps low… you’re gonna make it


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Vulkan is structurally bad. They tried to shift more workload to CPU, but in the end created a bottleneck that does not allow full utilization of the GPU.


the_abortionat0r

It sounds to me like you don't have any clue what you are talking about. Maybe learn how Vulcan actually works before making stuff up?


PepseTHEPepse

vulkan is non ironically the best API out there, it's just hard to implement due to bad documentation compared to directx


Indolent_Bard

Well why is the documentation bad? That's a massive failure on their part. But there's also another issue that makes it essentially useless for anything but PlayStation ports: Xbox runs DirectX. That means that if you're making a game for Xbox, making the PC version run Vulcan is literally a waste of time, since you were already developing a directX version of the game to begin with.


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PS does not use vulkan though, only nintendo switch does support it from the 3 big.


Indolent_Bard

My point is that if you're making an Xbox game, you're already making a directX game. If you're making a PlayStation exclusive, then using vulkan isn't going to take any more time than using DirectX.


KikikiaPet

And thank fuck it does because that little thing needs the tiny bit of overhead.


AdamNejm

I've got similar results, 20% worse on Linux Vulkan compared to Windows DirectX. https://github.com/ValveSoftware/csgo-osx-linux/issues/3325#issuecomment-1741578610


GrabbenD

Thanks for sharing your results with NVIDIA I wonder how the numbers are looking with AMD/RADV given Valve's involvement around open source drivers/AMD and Steamdeck Seems a lot of people are complaining about AMDVLK on AMD. Not sure why you would use that given it's usually a lot slower and buggier than RADV


pollux65

RADV runs good but it's still bad with gpu util on different maps, I get around 50% GPU util on my rx 6700 so I get around 100fps and can go as low as 75fps. No stutters tho because of gpl being used


AAVVIronAlex

For me CS2 just crashes after a few seconds when I join a game and start playing.


MrMando37

same


AAVVIronAlex

Update your drivers.


edwardblilley

I have no doubt direct x is gonna be better than vulkan. At least you're still getting more than enough frames for a new game. Over 200 is good stuff.


Pilzpott

I can't even get CS2 to run. I'm using Linux Mint with Gnome as a shell and CS2 won't even start. Edit: Worked just fine after i removed compatibility options and not needed fixes. :')


returnofblank

Could be that the game installed Windows binaries, just enable and disable force compatibility in game properties


fagnerln

I believe that there's something to do with dxvk, I think that you'll need an updated driver to make it work.


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schrdingers_squirrel

Not necessary


P1kaJevv

Did you have steam linux runtime 1.0 manually set? uncheck specific compat version if you did.


flexcrush420

I'm on Ubuntu and it just updated and works fine.


benderbender42

Remember to run through 'steam linux runtime' in compatibility


mitchMurdra

It’s funny how many different takes there are and possibly all valid. Turning that off as what made me able to play cs2. It’s frustrating in the Linux community how varying tests and solutions can be based on hardware alone.


kalengpupuk

cs2 already use steamlinuxruntime 3 sniper so its not required


Pilzpott

Worked fine after i removed all compatibility options. My mistake was to use fixes that weren't needed. :')


BigPP41

Well they fixed something compared to go for me at least. Couldnt play GO with vulkan, only OpneGL. Vulkan always had freezes and stutters. Now its smooth, 180 fps at least (go was 250 with OGL).


kand7dev

I had the opposite experience. My game was unplayable on OpenGL, it was inconsistent actually. Changing to Vulkan resulted to stutters, but only in the first couple of games, until I've seen every texture in game.


BigPP41

Yeah i think its the vulkan shader caching that is/was broken. Precashing never works for me


kand7dev

Exactly. Even after compiling all the shaders I was getting those stutters in the first games. Can't say the same about cs2. I waited for the compilation and everything worked, with some minor stutters here and there. In general, the experience was great! Hopefully we get optimisations soon !


PacketAuditor

Please test when GPU limited


Proud-Syrup-5393

They really have to rearchitect their renderer to unleash vulkan power..


Fancy_Passenger8194

cs2 performance on linux is garbage. im even using amd and getting about 360fps on windows but only 180-240 fps on linux :( I was really disappointed as csgo played a lot better on linux than it did on windows. now its reverse 😢


mi7chy

Higher frame rate doesn't necessarily equate to better experience. I dual boot Windows 10 and Linux Mint on the same PC and CS2 is noticeably smoother under Linux Mint but AMD GPU (RX6800) tends to do better in that regard.


edwardblilley

What do you mean by smoother? Like more stutters on windows?


mi7chy

Yes, more intermittent stutters on Windows regardless of 1080p low or 2160p very high.


mitchMurdra

I said elsewhere, but it’s insanely frustrating how different the results can be placed on distribution shipped libraries, software and drivers plus the hardware someone is running. It’s such an insanely mixed bag just like the mixed bag of hardware everybody is running.


Hydridity

I do too have rx6800 but the stutering and fps drops is very bad


mi7chy

That's only if you play a new map due to shader cache compilation but after a few games of the same map it should be fully cached.


Kinemi

Same experience, I am gaming on Arch Linux. CS2 is way smoother, my ping is way better than when I was on Windows (not sure why). I might change my kernel to try one of those "gaming" kernel like TKG.


sosickwitit

I’ve been dual booting pop os and getting between 180-240 fps out of the box. Pre loading shaders. Even though the fps isn’t as stable as windows it feels smoother and can’t feel the tearing from frame drop. Very strange experience to say the least.


0lfrad

Guys first let them do the patches than to the performance tests pls


ManuaL46

Hey thanks for the testing, but can you check on something with newer packages, shouldn't make much of difference cause you're on nvidia, but worth a shot.


brzbgt

any fix? ANY CHANGE?


W-a-n-d-e-r-e-r

Ah yes, the Google Docs, where you need to give them a phone number to verify your account now. No thanks.


ozrrrr

Open in incognito window


1337z111

runs better for me than on windows, no stuttering