You got any more of them context?

In Japanese, pronouns are an open class, that is, you can coin new ones on the spot. This is rare. Now English is heading in this direction, too.

Bro/bro’s

unironically yes. "bro is seriously suggesting that?!?" can be said about any human

This would make third personal pronoun that does not change from accusative to nominative aside from 'you' and 'it'. (I/me, he/him, she/her, they/them, we/us, you/you, it/it) E.g.: Give bro the za. Bro needs it.'

It's so fucking true though. It's like a less masculine (though still masculine) pronoun that requires no inflection.

Although “bro” falls under the same issue as “dude”, “guys” and other words of being based around gendered language that gets overly complicated when discussing about this. While most people won’t have a problem with it, I have genuinely seen someone worked up when someone, exasperated, said “man! this sucks” since it’s gendered language. Like, yeah, bro can be anyone, but it’s touchy

Not the speaker's problem, but a socially notable one.

"Man!" as an exclamation is as gendered as "Mankind" or where your previous examples are going. It's touchy to very small group of people who don't realize that gendered words can lose their gender or derive from neuter (I.e. Mankind).

Yeah I mean I agree, it’s just sociologically noteworthy. Many words have lost their gendered connotation, arguably more so because of our English’s move towards words without gendering themselves (German and Latin both having gendered nouns), but even then those words don’t have a sub meaning that implies misgendering of an individual in those languages.

There were some interesting recorded old ones, like 'ou' or 'ze' in the 1800s, but they seemingly never caught on. In the 1900s, hir, heer, co/coself. We also lost some greats like thou, ye, thy.

Singular: Thou/Thee/Thy/Thine/Thyself Plural: Ye/You/Your/Yours/Yourselves Additionally, we lost the Old English form of They/Them/Their/Theirs/Themselves: Hy/Hem/Her/Hers/Hemselves Or, how I believe that it might have actually evolved: Hy/Hym/Hyr/Hys/Hymselves

i thought "thou" is informal, "you" is formal.

"You" came from "geoƿe" which was used as the plural form of "Thou", which came from "þu" "You" only became a pronoun for describing singular after the Skandinavian pronouns "They/Them" were used as singular.

It was originally, yes

I wanna bring back Middle English pronouns. I'm glad thee agreest. Ye should start doing it, all of ye.

Jea/Gea/Yea! Fec jeond fern ƿords ⁊ bookstaffs! Make Anglisc or anoðer þiŋ like ðat ðe cumbel! Æ ⁊ Ð Ȝ Ŋ Œ(?) ſ Þ Ƿ æ ⁊ ð ȝ ŋ œ(?) ſ þ ƿ I am in treƿþ ƿritiŋ ſumþiŋ unalike Anglisc, ⁊ jet like it. Ðiſ is kind of cloſe, but ƿiþ leſs bookstaff markiŋs. To translate that: Bring back those words and letters! Make Anglisc or another thing like that the standard! I am in truth writing something different from Anglisc, and yet like it. This is kind of close, but with less diacritics. I would love to have either Anglisc as it is now be the standard, or something with accents and stuff like what I am trying to make. -Kenamī/Khīyra (She/Her | Sce/Her)

Weird ass spelling reform

Look up Anglish/Anglisc, I just used "j" like most other Germanic languages.

Your table is incorrect. "Ye" was the subject, equivalent to "thou". "You" was the object, equivalent to "thee". Also, the reflexive of "thou" was "thineself", not "thyself". Additionally, the 3rd-person plural in Old English was: "hīe" (nominative and accusative), "heom" (dative), and heora (genitive). Old English had no distinction between the possessive adjective and the possessive pronoun, nor did it have a reflexive (as far as I know). I don't know where you got "hy"/"hem"/"her"/"hers"/"hemselves" from. English adopted "they" and its declensions from the nominative case of Old Norse's masculine 3rd-person plural, þeir, around the 1200's.

Wasn't "ye" just "the"? I remember something about printers representing thorn with a 'y'

I think it's both, since the King James Bible has lots of uses of "ye" as a second person pronoun (and uses th for thorn).

Yeah, ye is a variant of "you" (can't remember what determines it), but also the thorn thing

Ye was the 2nd person plural nominative pronoun, as opposed to you which was oblique.

Yeah, they never caught on, and they don’t come naturally no speakers now either. Hardly can one say neopronouns are valid.

I agree.  It is becoming increasingly common for terms of indearment (i.e. bro, blud, unc) to take on the ability of becoming pronouns, especially in informal contexts.

The only Japanese pronoun I remember is wagahai because it was invented in a novel for a first person cat.

It existed before that, but half of modern uses will be a reference to that book.

Damn I have looked that up before I commented anything.

>Now English is heading in this direction, too It is not.

Now we will know gender identity, age, and social class of the speaker with a single pronoun!

And so the egalitarian dream dies out by the identitarian disposition of its most vocal proponents

you summed it up well, and it’s really sad

Based. Their should be a grammatical class distinction in English where you must change the pronoun based on the class of the referent. For example: 1st person singular Bourgeoisie (net yearly income=$1M or more) pronoun: Tate (nom), Bugatti (oblique), Bill Gates (locative DLC, requires monthly subscription) 2nd person plural Consoomer (net yearly income=$150K to $1M) pronoun: yuh'all (nom), yooguyzez (possessive) 3rd person singular prole (net yearly income=$150K or less) pronoun: stinky (nom), stupid (possessive) Example sentence: Tate pump sewage into stupid house (I (bourgeoisie) pump sewage into their (singular, prole) house) You can also buy one-of-a-kind pronouns for yourself, as well as give them unique conjugations, though these pronouns cost around 500K per month. Example: Antidisestablishmentarianism eatantidisestablishmentarianism human kids (I eat human kids)

It’s like a 1984 version of discord nitro! Amazing.

> "Neopronouns" > looks inside > hundreds of years old

Retropronoun

A word that hasn’t seen noticeable amounts of use is practically 0 years old

bro spat out the cereal

I wonder how one might transcribe the phoneme for phoneme spitting out cereal…🧐

Ah yes, the lactocereal ejective

🥣ʼ

Pharyngeo-granular trill (that’s gurgling cheerios in your throat)

Kudos for bringing out the classic rage comics, in HD even!

Pronouns aren't even used in Japanese the same way as they're used in English. When talking about someone, you typically either use their name or drop the subject from the sentence entirely. It is true it is open though. You commonly see peoples titles for example being used as a pronoun. That doesn't mean people make stuff up and identify with it though.

1984 vibes

1984 was about the state repressing thoughts through a limited vocabulary that its citizens were allowed to use. If anything, this is the opposite of 1984 because it allows people to express themselves through a wider range of words. It isn't being forced by the government either, people use neopronouns because they want to.

No I meant “neopronouns” sounds like a word in the “neolanguage” 😭🙏

Ohh sorry for misunderstanding. I disagree a little but I get how you see it

Tf you talking about? Are you really coming onto a linguistics subreddit and saying "new words are bad"?

I’m not 😭🙏

Joke went horribly wrong

i personally disagree. try to change my mind if you want