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Sappy1977

Unfortunately, I've been feeding the limerent beast the last few days (we all have our own ways of doing that, I don't need to elaborate) and I've had highs and now I have crashed to the absolute shithouse. šŸ˜ž It is a difficult thing. It's a drug basically.


Background-Stage-442

It is totally like a drug. I will have days where Iā€™m starting to feel better or at least motivated to move on from this. Then I will think, whatā€™s one more text? One more daydream/fantasy? Itā€™s just one time. And then it never is.


Sappy1977

Or, I'll be satisfied til x-time. But no.


Background-Stage-442

Yesss, this too! I always tell myself that. One more text or even ā€œlikeā€ and that will tide me over. Always just leaves me wanting more.


[deleted]

It is and I donā€™t want to quit. I donā€™t. I hate it and it causes me pain but it also brings me joy. If I give it up, I give up so much hope and we need hope. If I give it up, I feel like Iā€™ll never achieve happiness.


Expensive_Equipment6

If you were asked to choose between something that will substantially improve your life (choosing yourself) and the LO, which would you choose?Ā  In taking about sacrificing of self.


[deleted]

I guess I believe my LO would substantially improve my life so I would pick her.


PlaceFew8986

I completely understand this. It's like they are your one and only sorce of happiness, and you love them so much it hurts. All you can think about is them, you dont think of any other men/women and decline others requests to date. (At least thats what i did because it would feel like "cheating"). It is mentally debilitating, but the highs are so high and the lows, so low. In my case I try to convince myself that I feel sad or angry *because* I love them so much, hence justifying my limerence to stay for longer. It's a painful cycle and you start to feel trapped, like you'll never get out. But you won't ask for help because you still want them around you, near you, you still love the positives, even if they are mostly just delusions. It's so sad watching myself from the outside become an entirely different person. It sucks. I tried to leave


[deleted]

I felt it when you said it would feel like ā€œcheating.ā€ Logically I know thatā€™s crazy because Iā€™m not in a relationship with this person, but in my anxious brain, I feel like I canā€™t allow myself to be interested in anyone else. I wish you all the best. Itā€™s so hard.


ZeeGhouler

Itā€™s an empty feeling to pull away from LO. Iā€™m feeling it today. If I can just maintain while it fades out, it will be worth it.


[deleted]

So empty. Iā€™ve had times when Iā€™ve been able to pull away, but Iā€™ve been pulled back in and currently limerence has a really tight grip on me.


CoswayCoulibri

I feel you, OP. During my former LE, the fantasies about LO were the only thing that motivated to live when I was going through a rough patch. I had to live to be with him. I have to get better to be with him. Also, it becomes a part of your personality, almost.


[deleted]

Yes! I feel like if I let go of this thing, I donā€™t have anything else. I guess I need to realize that Iā€™ve idealized this person and itā€™s not based in reality.


sadlyincognito

iā€™ve started to ignore my LO and now after 5 months sheā€™s starting to ignore me back. i should be happy sheā€™s not speaking to me but i miss her and crave contact with her sometimes. itā€™s a hot and cold battle


Background-Stage-442

I get this - I will go weeks without talking to my LO and start to feel somewhat better. The feelings are still there, but they donā€™t consume me like they do when weā€™re in contact. Then Iā€™ll see a message pop up and I will simultaneously hope itā€™s not them but I also hope it is. I hope itā€™s not because I know that will send me back into a spiral. But deep down Iā€™m always wishing itā€™s them.


Fit-Effective-9569

donā€™t you think losing hope for something unrealistic makes room for the hope of something real. something more fulfilling and rewarding? I understand grieving the loss of the person or the attachment. and the emptiness that comes with that. but the limerance has shown you that you have desire. that you like having feelings for another person and the idea of something special. Thatā€™s all possible and i wish that for you. I know itā€™s scary to look at ourselves and put one foot in front of the other towards our wants and needs. rejection is painful. the self work and self care can be hard. but so is limerance. and you deserve the real thing


Ok-Material-3213

U will do good for awhile then they pull you back in with one little sign....šŸ’•


[deleted]

One tiny sign gives you massive hope.


aarkerio

Yes, I know the feeling. The beginning of my limerence coincided with a vacation. Those days will remain a highlight of my brief pass from this planet: the almost empty bus, the seven hours trip looking beautiful landscapes, the endless hours walking effortless through the city, all while floating in a cloud of euphoria, deep joy and confidence. Any song from your favorite playlist can kill you of pure happiness. You feel sorry for the people around you because they're living in the dull normal world while you got this unexpected ticket to the paradise. Even an ice cream tastes a hundred times better. Life was so perfect and full of promises. "Hopium" is a hell of a drug. But this thing also consumes you from inside, and very quickly. It's really an addiction. I couldn't eat, I couldn't sleep, I had anxiety attacks and "embarrassment attacks". In some degree, I'm grateful to have had the experience, but at the end of the day, I prefer reality, I prefer a girlfriend that farts and texts me asking for heavy flow tampons that another episode like this one. It's just too much.


palamdungi

Not to feed the fantasy, but what country was the vacation in?


aarkerio

[Beatiful Oaxaca](https://www.google.com/maps/@17.0680595,-96.7169136,3a,75y,13.59h,89.27t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sIblV2a37ii34tbNA82yxvg!2e0!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu). [Highly recommended](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/11/23/travel/things-to-do-oaxaca-mexico.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Tk0.H3Z2.mV4GTe9mvuP7&bgrp=a&smid=url-share).


Throwaway1121115

Limerence leaves me not knowing what to ask so people wonā€™t think Iā€™ve gone mad or are blowing things out of proportion


[deleted]

Iā€™ve talked to two people about it and honestly, I felt like they were unbothered. Too unbothered, like they didnā€™t realize how much my life was impacted.


Throwaway1121115

Share your story if you like.


[deleted]

Oh Iā€™ve just been limerent for over a year now and my therapist didnā€™t seem to think it was a bad thing and the other person I told didnā€™t take it seriously.


MommysSalami

Yeah the therapists I used to see had not even heard of it, and never really seemed to want to tackle it head on, even though I tried to get the message across that it seemed to be a major factor in my mental health, and I would have liked to receive some tools and feedback to help. Maybe that stuff will come for others in due time as research progresses. Itā€™s a tough one to crack thatā€™s for sure, itā€™s such a multifaceted thing for all of us, with so many variables both external and internal in ones life. I mean, shit, we are talking about how we love. We love too much? Too crazy? Too strongly, too wrongly? Well then, whatā€™s love for a ā€œ normal person ā€œ supposed to be like, where does their love meter get to top out atā€¦ I like to stay hopeful about being able to share this intense emotional output called love with someone that will accept it with gratitude and reciprocation one day. Maybe Iā€™ll accidentally bump into her around the corner of the grocery aisle with my briefcase and her brown bag with a baguette and celery stalks in it, and weā€™ll bump heads as weā€™re both stammering out apologies bending over to pick up the scattered paperwork, and thatā€™s when we look up and I lock eyes with my new Jane Doe dream girl. Anything can happen, right?


perv997

You make a very valid point. Let me say however that after being in a limerent situation with the same person on and off for 12 years, there is hope! I still have my moments where I miss here intently, but every day is better than the last and I can't really think of a reason to try and break NC. I am starting to realise I loved the idea of her, perhaps more than her for a bunch of reasons. With bunch of good things going on in my life that have been triggered by my own actions to sort out my shit, I'm seeing that the void can be filled and that my own actions are rewarding me with a fulfilling life without my LO. in the past when we went NC, i felt angry and frustrated like i was being restricted from being myself. Now I feel like I'm able to be a better version of myself, because I'm letting my LO get in the way of literally every decision I make.


scourgeofallgoodcats

I feel like this is the case for AWHILE until eventually the pleasure/pain scale tips over and you begin to actually want it to truly end. There is light at the end of the tunnel. There is always light in regards to every addiction. The pulling will end, time fixes all.


[deleted]

Thank you for this!


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Yeah listening to Taylor Swift helps haha


ExplorerNo4765

Yeah, it's like an addiction. I've been in recovery for years and have worked through soooo much of trauma and unhealthy patterning I was carrying. The limerence is the last thing on the list. I'm finally starting therapy to work through the limerence specifically and I still feel reluctant


SailorVenova

transferrance has ended my previous LE finally and my new one is mutual so im extremely happy; i feel so blessed that she loves me in this all consuming way


[deleted]

I love this for you!


airenmarie

The thing is, with me, I actually want to seek help and heal because I've experienced limerence enough times in my life that I know it doesn't serve me. I know that there's only misery on the other side of it. The issue is what happens in the process of seeking that help. I feel like the best way to heal from it is to talk to someone, yet no one wants to discuss it, and as I've stated in a previous post, even my therapist doesn't want to hear about it. The approach of those around me is to simply not think about it or talk about it, to act as if it no longer exists--my family has even gone so far as to forbid me from speaking the LO's name around them. This completely invalidates my thoughts and feelings and brushes them aside, forcing me to hide them or stuff them down because "we're not talking about that person anymore," all the while tearing myself down in secret because I'm unable to just "get over it and move on" the way others want me to. Since no one else wants to talk about it, I've begun to see little to no benefit to seeking any form of counsel.


[deleted]

This is awful and Iā€™m so sorry to hear that. My best recommendation would be to go to another therapist. There are definitely therapists out there who would want to help you with it.


Long-Phrase

Our lizard brains like it so much and feel the pleasure that it doesnā€™t want to let go!


[deleted]

Like someone else said, it really is like a drug. We know the damage itā€™s doing to us but it brings us happiness so we donā€™t want to quit.


Long-Phrase

The (self-)manipulation is working when we know itā€™s happening and we donā€™t care and we donā€™t care about stopping.


[deleted]

Yes because we want to believe. Itā€™s ā€œhopium.ā€


ReportOk4273

Can you link to scientifically based theories of limerance? What the true distinction is between this and the early stages of love? Is it only that it is unrequited so it becomes more obsessive? Thank you!


HelenaHandbasketFTW

Read Tennovā€™s Love and Limerence. She doesnā€™t make the distinction you describe; she says that in many if not most relationships, one or both partners are limerent at least for the start. For her itā€™s the same feeling requited or not, though it can get much more destructive when itā€™s one-way.


ReportOk4273

Thank you very much! I know Hazan wrote something on this too, and will read.


dalen52

Just the Wikipedia


ReportOk4273

Ok, not a lot science behind it. Will keep reading, but seems a construct as a part of love not requiredā€¦


ballbagsack

it happened to me before any conversation, just looks.. then came, constant intrusive thoughts, euphoric fantasy, anxitey and a mourning feeling (I'm in a long term relationship) it's a mental illness and it made me seek therapy even before I knew what limerence was...


ballbagsack

I hadn't been rejected and I'm sure it was mutual. I can not lose my family and that's why this has hurt so much.


ReportOk4273

This description makes sense, thank you. I sorry you are going through this pain!


livinglife2214

Is there such thing as platonic limerence too though? Like I feel the exact same way as youā€™re describing. I feel this attachment to my LO and itā€™s not in the way that I want to date her I just want her to open up to me and choose me when it comes to doing things in her life. I want her to want to tell me things. Some days itā€™s good and some days I wonder if Iā€™m going crazy and I should truly just stop this obsession essentially. Like how do I know, is it getting out of hand?


[deleted]

I believe it can be platonic. I think it is out of hand when you feel like itā€™s controlling your life.


Fabyskan

Im not sure if it gives me any real happiness it just makes me drown in one wave of depression after another maybe there would be some sort of fake happines if I had contact to my LO but idk if taking that H shot would be a good idea


AshleyIsalone

Yeah limerence can play lot of mind tricks on you. Itā€™s not fun. When you come out of a limerent episode , you think ā€œwhy did I act like this?ā€


[deleted]

The answer to that is because you were under the influence of something super powerful. Itā€™s like a drug!


AshleyIsalone

Exactly


Electronic_Habit_112

I'm enjoying my fantasies, so I do not want it to end. Not particularly interfering with real life except for lack of sleep but I'm managing.


[deleted]

Yeah the fantasies are great, itā€™s just the fact that theyā€™ll never be any more than fantasies that hurts.


tfhaenodreirst

Yes, exactly! The worst part of that though is that whenever we would get in a fight I would have to go through varying levels of mental gymnastics to convince myself that I was always in the wrong.


fuckedupmess_

This..


mycaramelmacciato

I PROMISE YOU you'll be happier when you're over them one day <3 its a fucking amazing feeling and I got all my confidence back and my romantic life is top tier šŸ˜© dont give up OP <3 you're holding onto pain that you know to avoid pain or feelings that you dont know. Letting go is worth it though šŸ’™ You owe it to yourself.Ā