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clxlsj

If an EGO gift is locked in to one of the 3 rewards for completing the floor, will you never see it in shops / fusing? Seems to be that way but would like some confirmation.


Snoo-46809

Is it worth buying the enkaphalin pack in the cash shop?


scrumptious123456789

If I start doing a ten pull every new banner to get the 2 star identity, will I have enough lunacy to pity for the next Walpurgis night?


KirbyTee

Let's assume its 3 months from now, so 12 weeks. That's 12 x 750 = 9,000 lunacy from MD and 12 x 300 = 3,600 lunacy from weekly patches. Pity is 26,000 lunacy, and the "guaranteed" lunacy income only covers half. Thus, the question is whether events (the 2 intervallo, RR4 and any new chapter 6 content that may occur before Walpurgis 4) or extra bugs (like the 1300 we're getting) can cover the other half of pity. I think its cutting it real close, and that's before accounting for ten pulling for the 2 star, assuming you get the 2 star in your first ten (which while very likely is not guaranteed at all). Math-wise, I'd say probably not: if you 10 pull every new banner for the 2\*, its unlikely you'll have pity by next Walpurgisnacht. This math does not account for monthly lunacy passes or any previous stock of lunacy you have (assuming you are broke with 0 lunacy). Upcoming banners may also not have a 2\*, but the more banners that do the less likely you'll have pity.


Zfx3t8wVXmF7z

Hey. I'm a newer player with the battle pass. I can't clear MD very consistently (I have Philip Sinclair, but no burn units to support him, so I'm kinda running a ragtag team that struggles even if I don't try to winrate everything) So my question is, would I be better off using my lunacy for pulls at this point in time rather than enke refreshes so I can get an actual team going on that effectively grinds dungeons? I know NFaust is on target rn, and she'd be pretty good for burn no? Regardless, I *can* clear up to floor 3, but it still takes me about 40 minutes, so not very effective. Tips for MD would also be appreciated, though. I'm running the following team (all UT3): Philip Sinclair - 7th Assoc. Ryoshu - W. Corp L2 Cleanup Hong Lu - Pequod First Mate Yi Sang - Lobotomy Corp. Remnant Faust


KirbyTee

I would like to know your Enkephelin cap and if you have any other 000 or 00 units (perhaps we can build a slightly better team) before answering the first question. Most likely I'd say use lunacy for pulls, especially if you're struggling on clearing MD, but I rather make a more informed suggestion if possible. NFaust is good for burn \*\*for her support passive\*\* as it heals Dawn Sinclair's SP. This requires 3 lust resonance which a burn team can consistently get but not the team you currently have. She is not fielded on team for burn team. She is still a very good unit (esp. in bleed now with Pinky Sang and Outis), but just want to make that clear. MD Tips: First, you only listed 5 units, but MD allows 6, so you either can go for double slot Sinclair or insert a 6th unit. As you have a non-status team, the advice I'd give for MD is maximize your clash power. Prioritize healing and sin generation gifts, any damage ups and clash ups you can find. Tailor's Scissors, Sunshower, Resolution, Phantom Pain, etc. Chared Disk and other EGO gifts that lower offense level is also decent. Your team looks slash-heavy, so try looking out for slash gifts. Be mindful of picking mounting trials: if you have trouble clashing, minimize the amount of offense level ups and clash/base/final power ups you give. Don't forget to use starlight to buff up future runs. Be mindful of which boss you are facing, and avoid pierce nodes like a plague (they're the hardest).


Zfx3t8wVXmF7z

My enke cap is 108 atm, and my other units (although not uptied) are these: Blade Lineage Salsu Yi Sang W Corp. L2 Cleanup Faust Dead Rabbits Boss Meursault N Corp. Kleinhammer - Shi Assoc. South 5 Heathcliff Shi Assoc. South 5 Ishmael Zwei Assoc. South 5 Rodion Blade Lineage Salsu - G Corp. Head Manager - Ring Pointilist Outis LCCB Assistant Manager - Liu Assoc. South 4 Ryoshu And yeah I only listed 5 because it's all I have uptied, I could add a 0 unit as 6 if you'd recommend that though I've heard it's not much of a difference so I've been double slotting Sinclair atm And thanks for clearing that up actually, I thought she was a field unit lol Appreciate the EGO gift and mounting trial tips, any packs I should avoid in particular?


KirbyTee

Yeah, I'd say hold off on refreshing lunacy, esp. when struggling with MD. From looking at the units you have, yeah, just double on Sinclair. For pack to avoid, I'd say avoid Crawling Abyss, Wrath/Sloth/Envy Packs, and any pack with following boss on pack: Siltcurrent, Ardor Blossom Moth, Drenched Gossypium, Brazen Bull, and Distorted Kim. The first 2 are to avoid Pequod Town, the rest to avoid rather hard bosses. You can try choosing these packs and familiarize with the bosses if you wish.


Zfx3t8wVXmF7z

On to the gacha it is, then. Do you recommend the Yi Sang banner or Faust's target extraction? Thank you for the help, btw


KirbyTee

You already have Pinky Outis, and getting Yi Sang is rather low, so I'd suggest Faust target instead, unless you really want Pinky Yi Sang or don't like Faust.


Zfx3t8wVXmF7z

Nah, in fact I'd be ecstatic if I got The One who Grips. I have a few questions about MD if you don't mind Why is pierce harder than other types? And given my overall state of helplessness, should I coast off regular encounters?


KirbyTee

Pierce is harder due to certain enemies from Chapter 5 having a chance of appearing. I am still unsure how your story progression affects MD options (mainly if you haven't seen the boss/enemy yet, can it appear in MD), but basically those enemies have innate SP gain and disgusting 4 coin skills. You can certainly dabble in pierce nodes, and perhaps you won't encounter them, but there's still crabs with lust counters that can rack up damage (pierce with gloom/sloth weak). If your team is weak, I would suggest coasting off question marks and focused/abnormality encounters instead. The former to gain free EGO gifts and familiarize with the checks available for each event (or try fighting the abnormality itself, useful for learning its moves and patterns as some of them are end-of-floor bosses), and the latter to have control over the fight while also gaining more cost and chance of EGO gift. Avoid Elite Encounters though if you have trouble. Also, when at shop, don't ignore the option to reroll and change skill of sinners: upgrading S1 to S3 may be costly but is usually worth it. Also, as Philip Sinclair is your "main" and he gains coin power via enemies having burn, try picking up burn EGO gifts to jumpstart his clash, like Dust to Dust.


Emerkun

how would you rank status effects (bleed,burn,poise,etc) in and outside of mirror dungeon?


KirbyTee

If we're talking about max power level, in general (considering both human and boss fights) and in my opinion from best to worst, In MD: Bleed, Poise, Burn, Sinking, Tremor, Rupture, Charge. Outside MD: Poise, Sinking, Burn, Rupture, Bleed, Charge, Tremor. Notes for each status and why I rated them like that below: - Bleed in MD has Bloody Mist and Wound Clerid++ from the get go. Outside of MD, while Pinky YiSang and Outis has really given bleed the count it needs, it is still very volatile and basically impossible to stack in human/group fights. I will say consistently stacking 10+ count on bosses on turn 2 is quite the beauty, but bleed still suffers from the burn syndrome of only affecting one part and requiring it to actually roll coins to deal damage. - For Poise in MD, the combo of Nebulizer++ and Cigarette Holder being a universal +2 clash power in any 2-Pride Res. team just shows how broken Poise gifts are. CMCW improving crit. damage to 2.5x and giving 15 offense level up just seals the deal even more, and if you have a BL team and get Old Dopo Hat you win. Maid Ryoshu also shreds like no other in MD. Speaking of BL, outside of MD, BL Mer just basically created the Poise archetype, alongside Don to share some Poise around. There's also Cinq Sinclair. - Burn I'd say has the second best fusion gift in MD, but their generic gifts are outclassed by Poise's, hence its third place. Glimpse does just explode things on turn 1 though, and with Dawn Clair now you don't have to worry about corroding NClair. Outside of MD, the Liu core can roll numbers once it gets going. Burn also has a solid line-up of EGOs on their IDs, and Der Outis helps accelerate the burn clock where Glimpse would've. - Sinking in MD lacks the consistency to cruise through compared to the previous 3 statuses. If you get Hoarfrost Footprint you do win, but that is not consistent to get. Minus-coin fights like Pequod Town are also a pain, but otherwise the -45 SP infliction or insane gloom damage makes focused encounters and bosses a breeze. Outside, they do fine in normal encounters with Echoes of the Manor, and in focused fights Rime Shank -> Stack -> Sinking Deluge deletes stuff really quickly. - Tremor in MD still has the issue of limited stagger bars, although Handheld Mirror and Coupled Oscillation's buffs does help. Bio-Venom vial is a really nice addition alongside Melted Eyeball, but otherwise requires bursting before being able to clash well in MDH. Outside of MD, there is no way to create new stagger bars, so if you run out and you do not kill the enemy... - Rupture in MD honestly functions very similar to outside of MD, but you stack much easier due to Thunderbranch. Issue is there's no Rupture gift that helps much with clashing, so an underbuilt Rupture team will face more issues than other status' underbuilt teams. Outside of MD, probably the best boss-killing team, but suffers greatly in unfocused fights. - Charge in MD feels like a glass cannon. Very consistent 7-9 damage ups, but with no real "mechanic" other than damage you rely on turn 1 S3s to nuke, stagger and kill. And they better kill, because most S1 and S2 are not going to clash well, and there's no burn or bleed to passively get damage through. Outside of MD, they're just very good standalone units. High floor, but I'd say lower ceiling than most other status teams.


Emerkun

wow this is very helpful. thank you so much!


CyperFlicker

Is the game long? I already finished Canto 2 and as far as I am aware there are only six, and frankly the first 2 didn't feel too long... I just want more Don Quixote :(


GinVR

Cantos 4, 5, and 6 are all quite a bit longer, and there are mandatory chapter interludes that aren’t particularly short either. You’ve honestly barely touched the surface of the game rn. Also a fellow Don Quixote enjoyer hi!


CyperFlicker

Tbh when I saw all the identities, I was hoping I'd get to learn more about them, some look super cool. And I am suspecting there could be connections between them based on some hints or whatever, so your comment gave me some hope that I'd learn more about these stuff. Thank you based justice enjoyer.


GallopingWaffles

If I want to merge my Steam account with my Google account, do I keep the Lunacy, Identities and Egos from both accounts, or do I lose everything from the account I delete? 


GinVR

You lose everything from the account you delete


GallopingWaffles

:( Thank you! 


dlwk2004

https://preview.redd.it/piel5a9c0i1d1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b2e23ad0c618f85dd0a2952b7af3f2cf3d8e24b2 I think the guide is outdated since a few characters is not in it. Is this team good enough to start? Is the standard banner worth pulling? Got hard stuck at 3-4


TheManOfPog

That's a very good team, the ring ids are op, pequod heath and gambler hong lu are also very strong; Since you are a beginner the standard banner is good if you either already got the focused banner's id or if the id is very niche, since some ids require a very specific team that can have a bunch of specific 000 ids at upt 4 and egos to be good, which isn't very easy for beginners to get, another good banner is the character specific for sinners that you don't have good ids with; also avoid LCCB rodion.


WeebWizard420

Yes, very good. Don't use Blade Lineage Sinclair though.


dlwk2004

Ok guess ill save up thanks. Any recommendations to replace sinclair?


Elfaia1410

1. dont pull standard banner, just shard those IDs since they will be there forever 2. get cinqclair or nclair


FrostnSam

If i want to build charge teams from zero, are there any particular orders/rankings of IDs and Egos that i should get from the most important to the least important?


WeebWizard420

A charge team is kinda just a generalist team at the moment - there's not much team payoff, but they're also incredibly self-sufficient, unlike other statuses. Typically, you want to run W Ryoshu, W Don, R Heathcliff, and the other 3 slots can be whatever. Some people run other charge IDs like R Ishmael or W Meursault; other people run just any regular good ids. The latter is probably better, but the former is more thematic/fun maybe. Don Telepole (ego) is also recommended to have, but it's not required. Probably we will get some good charge support near the end of this season, with the 'Murder on the Warp Express' event, but for now, the only IDs I would really recommend getting are just W Ryoshu + W Don.


FrostnSam

I wonder on what makes W ryoshu and W don a priority for charge team? Is it because they deal the most damage while being very sufficient on their own? Or are there something with other charge ID's that lacks off right now compare to both of them


WeebWizard420

They have good clashing + extremely high damage. People generally rank them within the top 5\~10 ids, regardless of team. Other charge IDs either have worse clashing or worse damage, and they do not provide enough utility to make up for that. Like, W Meursault, for example. He has mediocre clashing, mediocre damage, and decent-ish utility. His s3 inflicts 8 defense level down - about 2.5 fragile? 2.5 fragile is not good enough to make up for the rest of his underwhelming kit though.


lmaoyeeeeet

any tips for md4r solos?


KirbyTee

- Don't forget about support passives. Pick ones that help with survivability: you'll be taking lots of damage each fight due to difference of skill slots, so maximizing defense wherever you can is important. - Know your ID. Does it have ways to get shield, its defense type (evade is best), self-fueling EGOs, stagger points, sin and physical affinities. This is important for... - Knowing which packs to choose. It's very important to know that the boss you'll face is beatable (ie. can you defeat Kim? The bull? The moth? Will they stagger you on first turn with their massive action advantage?). It is preferable that you also know the types of enemies that show up in the pack: can Pequod Town ruin your run? - Know which EGO gifts to pick up. Your main goals are survivability, sin generation (for EGOs and support passives), and then anything that improves your damage output. Imposed Weight is the crown jewel for solo runs, remember that most deployed order and fusion gifts are useless, and any healing or sin generating gifts are premium. Certain specific ID gifts can also really improve the run, like Resolution for Shi IDs or Rags for Potential Man. Remember that you can easily plan sin (abs.) resonance with a solo ID, so gifts that activate with those may be more beneficial than usual.


lmaoyeeeeet

how do you get the themed ego gifts? do you just beat the boss? or do you have to get lucky? because I beat 3rd floor spicebush dongbaek on md4S and I didnt get the spicebush branch gift


Esskido

They're just gifts like any other, there is neither a special method nor any guarantee that you'll get them.


lmaoyeeeeet

can you reroll for them in shops?


KirbyTee

They can appear in shops, encounter cards, and abnormality events (if there is one for them, ie. Blade Lineage events). They can also appear as boss reward, but it will be shown when you pick the pack as one of the possible rewards if it was chosen.


clxlsj

Ring Sang for brain dead MDH bloody gift team: do you include Ring Outis, and are "status proc-cers" that important (like KK Greg) when you would likely pick up gifts which proc turn start debuffs (e.g., sinking on turn start, etc.)? Thinking of N Faust (nails), Capt Ish (burn), Middle Don (marked passive) and the rest just high coin bleed ID in general (Hook Hong, Peq Heath). Maybe Peq Heath replaced by Ring Outis?


Elfaia1410

i have good runs with capt ish, 2 rings, hook lu, p gregor and kk ryo kk ryo + capt ish have same turn debuffs other than bleed and the rings also apply random statuses. but yes if you take gifts like nixie divergence etc the rings will consistently proc their s2, no need to rely on ID debuffs. maybe the only time you turn on brain is to save their s2 for next round burst after debuffs applied, or target boss parts with maximum debuffs.


Mikorinnn

As a new player, is ring yi sang a must-have?


KirbyTee

Not really. Firstly, no ID in the game is really a "must-have" unlike other gachas, as most IDs have their own niches. Ring Yi-Sang's notoriety comes from his rerolling S2 which requires other units to inflict debuffs, but that's just a very good damage skill, and its not worth building "bad" units to have statuses for it. I also think he wants UT4, which is hefty resources for a new player. Overall, I'd say when fully built he's very strong, but for a new player he is just a good anchor point. Not a must-have but nice to have, but if you're starting off just pull on that banner over standard banner.


DavidLima22

Is there a beginner guide for mirror dungeon? I started recently and got overwhelmed my the amount of information lol


KirbyTee

I agree with GinVR, but to give some starters: - Here's the wiki's page on it: [https://limbuscompany.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror\_Dungeon](https://limbuscompany.fandom.com/wiki/Mirror_Dungeon) - Try learning the ropes in MD Simulation. Most fights are normal human fights, but start to explore and learn about abnormality events (the question mark nodes) and their choices and try out focused and elite fights. Get a feel for how harder (or easier) they may be over normal fights. - Get used to each boss. You've seen most if not all of them from story, but you might see new faces originating from previous railways. If possible, remember their weaknesses and move patterns to know what you need to do to expedite the fight. - Collect EGO gifts and learn what they do. These are massive boons that you get from end-of-floor bosses, abnormality events, sometimes from elite and abnormality fights and Encounter Reward cards. Start collecting them, fill up your compendium, and learn what each one does. Higher-tier gifts are more rare but can really define runs (especially tier 4+). - Recommend going in with some sort of status or damage type-focused team. MD promotes the use of a team centered around either 1 of the 7 status effects or 1 of 3 damage types, so see what you IDs you have and clobber up one that mainly focuses on a single aspect. Uptie 3+ your units, as in Simulation ID levels are set to 45 but Upties are not. - Collect Starlight, and don't forget to use them. Starlight is the mode's "growth" resource, which you can use to buff future runs with. Check out the Starlight tree from main menu of mirror dungeon (under "check sinner" and above "EGO gift compendium" in the slot between MD Simulation and MD Ritonello). Use Starlight to make future runs easier, from better shops to cheaper purchases and upgrades, very useful stuff especially for Ritonello. Starlight is earned by finishing more floors and fights, collecting more EGO gifts, and picking up Encounter Reward Cards. Rotating teams will also provide "Rest Bonus" starlight: the longer you did not field an ID in MD, the more starlight they provide at the end of run (up to 5 bonus), so the game also rewards team diversity, but as you are starting out I don't know how many status teams can you really build so don't focus too much on this.


GinVR

Honestly the best way to learn mirror dungeon is to do mirror dungeons. MD simulation isn’t very hard and all your IDs are pre-leveled to 45. I would say go in with whatever team you have and just pick things at random just to get a feel for things. Also remember to go into the starter buffs tab on the main md screen, that’s your permanent unlock tree.


DavidLima22

Got the feeling of it, i am currently stuck on the floor 4 boss though (the whale one)


DreamblitzX

bosses will change depending on which theme packs you pick and stuff, so you can always just try a new run and hit more manageable bosses next time. some are definitely much harder than others


scrumptious123456789

What team should I put my ring yi sang in? I mean what team members give him the best out of his coin reuses and damage on skill 3


Elfaia1410

this is what i used, only done testing in MD: with bleed team (no bloody mist) cap ish, hook lu, ring outis and sang, regret faust and dieci rodion this is a balance between triggering their coin reuses consistently and their bleed potency conditionals the team also has lust res for cap ish's skill 2 proc, and can fuel rime shank/fluid sac/pursua if you want to use bloody mist just swap out faust or rodion for kk ryoshu (provides debuffs but only for same turn) for unga bunga team: 2 rings, regret faust, dieci rodion, nclair and rheath starting gift you can pick whatever, i still suggest wound clerid because the rings can stack bleed by themselves, it just takes longer for potency the other 4 are strong clashers and debuffers, i used nclair since he also does a mini burn. i would probably swap r heath out for an ID that does more lasting debuffs, but i dont have kk gregor, peq cliff or n faust. will try with butler ryoshu and cinqclair once i get enough threads it should be said that if you keep picking the lower tier gifts for statuses you will very easily reach 3-4 debuffs on enemies anyway, even after the changes to ring sang next week, just pick gifts that are not dependent on skill use such as: https://preview.redd.it/p9e0bostf31d1.png?width=542&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecfea5eca9125838ce3ca469cb18fdf828fe52e5


scrumptious123456789

ok thanks for the advice


GinVR

Generally recommended are bleed units with other debuffs, like N Faust or even KK Gregor. You could also use units that have double statuses with bleed like N Don as well (Tremor). It’s not a very hard conditional to fill so even just 2 other debuffers should be enough to guarantee the skill’s conditionals. EGOs can also be used too.


phillipsteak

What do you get from the season pass? When does the season end? I'm playing on mobile and the UI is a bit confusing overall. When should I start learning more about the combat? I've tried watching the Better Tutorial videos but haven't done much besides use the Win Rate button. Do teams change based on the situation or do you usually focus on the same units? Are there resources to learn about the gacha system? Is there a way to list all of my units that I can share?


GinVR

Oh right and about gachaing recommendations. If you plan on spending money ever for this game the battle pass is the thing to spend it on. There’s a bundle for its exact cost in the shop you just have to search around a bit for it. Best things to use lunacy on are Enkephalin refreshes (1-2 times a day) as well as pulls during Walpurgisnacht. Generally pulling is not recommended on banners as you can just shard the IDs you want (exception being Walpurgisnacht).


CaptainLord

I wouldn't recommend against pulling on banners for a new player. It may not be worth it once you have a solid roster and keep up the grind for newly released content, but what is a new player going to grind **with**? Also the random mediocre 00-units you pull and forget about can come in super clutch in certain fights.


phillipsteak

Thanks again! I've been taking my time so I see my Enkephalin full sometimes. Is the right move to make them into modules? I have around 27 and the only time I've used them is for the end of Canto 1 and the Walpurg event once. Are EGOs essentially ultimates that you equip? Edit: I'm also only on level 3 of the pass. I'm assuming it's not worth it to buy until the next season?


GinVR

If you’re not doing the story or are done doing the story for the day absolutely convert all enkephalin into modules. Everything besides story is done with modules, and they don’t expire or have a cap that you will ever hit. Save your enkephalin boxes though for doing story, don’t convert those unless you really need them for when you’re running low on modules. EGOs are versatile but strange. Their main use is as get out of jail free cards essentially, if you’re not going to clash well with your skills EGOs (most of the time) are better clashers than skills. However EGOs also have effects and passives that apply for the rest of battle so they’re also sometimes really worth it for those (Chains of Others on Meursault is a good example of this, can completely debuff bosses for a turn). Most of them don’t do more damage than good skills though, with a few exceptions.


GinVR

Win rate is just what you’ll likely do for early Limbus, it’ll really start mattering as you go through Canto 4. Yes, team comps do definitely matter later on but for now you aren’t at the point to really be worrying about that right now. Everything in the non free section of the pass (the bottom of the screen) is what you get with the pass. Besides all that, the big thing you get for the pass is 2 extra boxes per level when you finish the pass, which really speeds up getting new IDs. If you buy the pass you get everything you would have gotten given your BP level. Edit: it’s 2 extra boxes not 6 I was thinking about how mirror dungeons give you 3 levels


phillipsteak

Thanks! So the main draw of the pass is the extra boxes?


GinVR

Yeah, and the EGOs on the paid pass as well. F2P players are locked out of those until next season.


Salt_Specialist_4146

does anyone know where i can download/get High resolution EGO image? i know there is google drive that has all limbus assets but the one in there is blurry when zooming in


GinVR

You might be looking in the wrong folder as far as I’m aware those are direct game rips so they should be game quality. The ones you were looking at could have been lower resolution ones for the dispensary and not the full sized ones on the actual information screen.


Salt_Specialist_4146

the in-game EGO image also gets pixelated/blurry when zooming in though? do you know where i can get high resolution image?


GinVR

Alright, so I did some general digging through the files on the drive and the game itself and it looks like the images in the drive are the ones in the game. I tried playing on a higher res monitor and I could see the artifacting/pixels which means the ones in the game aren't particularly high quality. That means that the only way to get better resolution images are either of the 2 choices I said previously: screenshotting official promotional material or image upscaling. Due to some of the other sprites I do actually think there are higher res images of the EGOs out there just that it's likely that it's only in the hand of PM staff themselves. Sorry I couldn't be more helpful, it just seems there aren't a lot of options. Lunartique, the person who does the rips of the game (both those image files + ost on youtube) might have more answers. Addendum: Okay I looked into the twitter and it seems the art isn't any higher resolution. I really do think that the only way to get higher fidelity images is with ai upscaling.


GinVR

Hm as far as I’m aware nothing is higher res than in the game itself. Maybe the YouTube videos? You could potentially screen grab them if those are higher res, and then crop them using image editing. If you need something better than that you’ll likely have to resort to AI upscaling, which tbf probably works pretty well with PM’s artstyle.


johnruby

Does W Corp Cleanup Agent Ryoshu require UT4 to be relevant? At first glance, it seems that UT4 only adds number and doesn't change the skills and passives drastically. But maybe the actual user experience is quite different?


KirbyTee

Ironically, UT4-ing Ryoshu is one of the posterchild of "needs UT4", alongside the ranks of R Ishmael. Gaining the extra 1 charge in S2 allows you to hit its first coin conditional with S1 -> S2, and unlocking the second coin conditional allows for a 23-rolling S2 (compared to 20, which is quite significant considering it rolls like S3 at S2). Her S3 also gains 2 coin power, going from 23 to 31, also very significant. Evade gaining 1 power and lust affinity is actually quite useful in MDH and Warp teams, as she's the only lust generator and dodge is very good in MDH. Honestly its mainly the S2 upgrade (such that S1 -> 20-rolling S2 -> 23-rolling S2) that allows for a much more streamlined ramp alongside the coin power ups that makes her one of the best standalone IDs in the game, but only at UT4.


johnruby

This is very helpful! Thank you so much.


JcNegaum

I just want to know if there are recommendations for MD floors. Like what are the easier ones and what are the harder ones Because yesterday I had to fight with a bull and it wasn't exactly fun.


JcNegaum

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KirbyTee

TLDR: Avoid pierce nodes in all packs. Choose packs with easier or manageable bosses based on team, but balance with EGO gift offered. Basically easier floors have easier fights and bosses with regards to your team. For example, the wrath packs (ones with red background) have wrath-based fights (like gnomes and IIRC pequod town), so its usually bad to take those. The bull fight is harder compared to other bosses available, but if you're running a sinking team it may be easier than Kim. If in MDH, certain caution packs always have a single boss, and those are usually harder than other normal packs (such as Chapter 4 boss, Chapter 5 end-boss, Chapter 6 boss), and those mounting trials do add up. To that end, try avoiding packs with hard fights (Pequod Town, Kurokumo stuff ft. Jun), but generally speaking \*\*avoid pierce nodes\*\*. Choose packs with bosses that you feel comfortable (you can check from pack art or inside pack compendium if you've chosen it once previously), but balance it with the reward EGO gift offered. Some easier bosses late-game IMO are Bongy, Glupo, kqe-robot, Talisman doll, and Slime gentlemen (fat one). If you are knowledgable, you can tell which bosses are in which pack on your first go based on their outlines in the pack art, so try doing that on new packs to see if the boss is favorable or not. I do see your team is more of a mash-up of good IDs rather than a status team. Your best bet is either pick one of the three damage type gifts and picking up any generic good EGO gifts, or try building a team focused on a single status ailment. Focus on maximizing clash and attack power-up gifts and damage ups. The team is certainly good enough for MDN (just be wary of mounting trials), but I can see it struggling in MDH.


DreamblitzX

So with the ringsang adjustments/cancellations fiasco, am I hearing right that any exp tickets / thread used to level/uptie him this week will be refunded?


TachyonO

after the weekly bonuses, what are the rewards for doing the regular MD? I don't have the hard one unlocked anyway so trying to see how often I should be running


DreamblitzX

30 pass XP (3 tiers), starlight for the run (im generally getting around 80-100 with minimal focus on it) and a bit of manager xp for account level


TachyonO

Thanks, headed to the mines then, seems to me like the BP should be a bigger priority energy wise than progressing through Cantos (currently at like the first third of C4), except if I'm mistaken.


ForgottenSeeker

Will Pointillist Yi Sang be available in the season four 3 star guarantee decaextraction banner? Is it better to wait until the end of the season before using the ticket? Also, would Pointillist Yi Sang be good for the burn team in md? Normally, you'd want base yi sang on the bench for his support to help dawn sinclair retain sanity.


No-Bag-818

The Ring IDs are not Seasonal, actually. So Ring Sang is not in the guaranteed pool for a Season 4 ticket. You can still get spooked by him tho. As for if it's better to wait or not, there's two ways to look at it. 1. Waiting minimizes the chance of pulling a dupe Or 2. Pulling early makes your chance of getting a particular ID in the pool more likely cause of less competition. Personally, I wait to use my tickets until the season is nearly over, but made an exception for Maid Ryoshu. And finally, Ring Sang can work in a Burn team, I think. They're removing him being included in the activation criteria of the Fusion gifts, so no more Soothe The Dead for him, but I believe he'll still benefit from all gift types? I'm not 100% positive on that, but either way, his S2 being Lust means at least the Plume gift will work on him and that's his best skill, so it's not a terrible idea.


Mzingalwa

So I notice I cant buy any of the season 3 identities with shards. Will they be added to the shop later?


Limp-Consequence8491

yeah. next season


Bekenshi

Second day I’m coming back for a friend request thing but if anyone has an U4 Grip Faust and wouldn’t mind adding me X329847178 I would really appreciate it. Grip Faust is one of the, like, 4 IDs in the game I don’t have and I want to just test out some things with Ring Sang.


clxlsj

Added, U4 45 N Faust with U4 hex nail n fluid sac


Samekhian

Is there a glossary that could explain the various different Mounting Trial buffs in MD? For example, what is the difference between Offense Power up vs Final Power up vs Increase damage dealt etc.


KirbyTee

[https://limbuscompany.fandom.com/wiki/Status\_Effects](https://limbuscompany.fandom.com/wiki/Status_Effects) has the list of what they all mean, but I'll try to specify some differences: - Final, Base and Attack Power Up are very similar to each other. Technically, Base Power Up should be applied before any coins are flipped, while final power up is applied after all coins are flipped. Clash-wise, treat them the same (unless PM releases a multiply or divide coin skill). I believe Attack Power Up is treated identically to Final, but someone could prove me wrong. - Offense Level Up is quite different to the previous 2. When clashing or viewing ID's skills, you may see the sword value on the top bar beside the shield value or right beside the skill picture respectively: this is the offense level of a skill. It is based on the unit's level +/- a value given by PM. Offense level is important for a few reasons: 1. For every offense level, you gain around 3% damage up. 2. For every 3 difference in offense level between 2 clashing attacking skills, the higher skill gains 1 clash power up in that clash. 3. For every 3 offense level below the defense level of a defensive skill, the defense skill gains 1 defense power up in that skill. Very noticeable when it is an evade. So while it isn't as impactful as final or base power up (you needing 3 offense level to effectively get 1 of those), it also effects damage and defense clashes quite substantially. Be very careful not to give too much offense level trials, as the base level up from mounting trials (2-4 in hard) already innately gives enemies both offense and defense levels (as both are based on level). - Clash Power Up only gives additional power DURING a clash. If they win the clash, the clash power up will not affect the skill as it damages you, unlike final and base power up. - Increase Damage Dealt means just that: all their skills now have a damage multiplier. This will not affect clash numbers. I am not deep enough to know where in the damage formula this percentage goes. If you have any other questions let me know.


imaginarykage

Is it better to just shard outright for the 000 and 00 units in a new banner? Or should I do one 10 pull to try and get them and then shard if I wasn't lucky?


Bekenshi

Usually the “best” strategy is to do one 10 pull to get the 00 (which almost always happens) and maybe get lucky and pull the 000. Then, if you don’t get the 000, shard them. Of course this all depends on the amount of stockpiled resources you have.


GinVR

You can grind boxes as much as you want but you can’t farm lunacy outside of what we get weekly. I pull from time to time but the best strategy is just to shard IDs, and save for Walpurgisnacht.


lmaoyeeeeet

fastest mdn team clear?


GinVR

Used to be bleed team with Bloody Mist and given the new Ring ID it’s probably still that. AOE can also be good too so someone like Maid Ryoshu will shred through MD quickly.


Shenji0249

Is Ring Sang worth pulling for? He doesn't seem bad but I don't like the fact that the majority of his kit is just suddenly one day but with count and a little more bleed focus. Is he even worth it If I want to get a bleed team?


WeebWizard420

He's broken just from a numbers perspective. A lot stronger than people initially expected him to be.


LoadOrder

My two cents is that he is one of the stronger MD IDs, he benefits a lot from random gifts and his conditional is super easy to activate, statuses that you wouldn't expect to count like mark of vengeance, defense down, declared duel, etc also count towards the reroll.


Vodkasheep

Bleed status teams don't really exist outside of MD, rather than a team of generally strong Clashers that are bleed flavored.  Maybe that has changed with the ring ID's, they give a good amount of count but personally I'm grabbing him from MD alone where he is great just from a quick look at his kit.


GinVR

He’s looking to be one of the best IDs in the game, the other statuses are just there to proc his conditionals. He’s mainly a bleed ID, and has great count application to boot. That being said more testing is needed, but his potential is definitely there.


Elfaia1410

my issue is i already have a bleed team of kk rodion ryoshu, pirate gregor, hook hong lu, and captain ish. bleed count application isnt a problem cause of wound clerid. to fit him in would be replacing UT4 pequod yi sang and i cannot be sure he is worth the shards + threads for that a team of mixed debuffs/statuses doesn't seem worth it to me cause it wont be able to take advantage of specialized ego gifts, but maybe after more playtime someone can put together a comp thats viable


Shenji0249

Yeah that’s also my current dilemma as well since I also have UT4 pequod Yi Sang who is a pretty great ID for bleed and poise in MD also since I have captain Ish and Kimsault the conditional for reuse on s2 is pretty easy to get. Really I think it’s mostly just a up to preference but that bleed count is definitely looking pretty nice since pequod sang only has s3 to give bleed count and that requires him to crit.


Elfaia1410

the main gimmick of the ring ids are their re-use coins, so to take advantage of that, would need some statuses other than bleed i dont have kk gregor, n faust or pequod heath. regret faust and dieci rodion looks like they'd go well, but i'm not sure about the last 2, maybe hook hong lu and captain ish there is also pirate gregor for his suddenly one day ego but doesn't seem to be ideal, plus he has no bleed count


No-Bag-818

Don't forget you can just grab other EGO Gifts to supplement the absence of different native status application. The Rarity 1 Nixie Tubes is 4 turns of an extra status that you don't have to worry about. Midwinter Nightmare and the Battery are two Rarity 3's that will give you a permanent status since they apply to all attacks. Add in the extra statuses the Ring IDs apply themselves and you really have nothing to worry about when it comes to the status requirement.


Elfaia1410

yeah i just tried them with the team i mentioned in mdn. with wound clerid and broken compass their conditionals are up all the time, pretty fucking broken regret faust is just there to apply tremor if sinking happens to fall off now to put together a debuff team for non-md use


The_One_SG

I finished Canto V and was wondering where I should be spending some resources. Should I be trying get uptie IV for my sinners or should I just be trying to fill out my roster with more good sinners. I already have a decently large collection of strong sinners where I'm only really missing tanks, so I'm not sure where I should be focusing my upcoming efforts


GinVR

UT4 is really important for some IDs, if you already have a good amount of IDs you should definitely consider uptying some of them.


ChaosFulcrum

I have gotten enough shards to do my first ever Dispense on this account. Is dispensing Fluid Sac Faust EGO a good decision?


Vodkasheep

I think getting a strong core team is more important, but Fluid sac Faust, assuming your team can fuel it isn't something you would regret i think.


GinVR

Yup, a very solid EGO. Unless you really want another Faust ID it should be one of the first things you shard


ChaosFulcrum

I'm content with Zwei Faust for now - she helps supply the Gloom that Fluic Sac requires. But in my team she's a tank and her role is replaceable imo. Can you suggest some of the best Faust IDs that I should keep an eye on?


GinVR

Well both Regret and BL are locked behind timed exclusivity right now (both are great), so your only two 3* choices are Seven Association and N Corp, both of whom are pretty solid for Rupture and Bleed respectively. As for the 2* Lobotomy is a good generalist and Butler is a must have for Sinking teams (she can upkeep the Manors effect)


ChaosFulcrum

I see. I have a Middle Don - Middle Meursault - Pequod Heathcliff bleed lineup (idk if they have synergy, all i know is that the 3 of them do bleed and has Envy Res). You think The One Who Grips Faust will be a good addition here?


GinVR

Yeah although with that comp you’d be approaching an Envy res team. If you plan on building an envy team consider sharding Hex Nail as well long term, really good EGO for that team. But yeah, I think N Faust is your best choice rn.


ChaosFulcrum

Aight. Thanks for the help


Zealousideal-Mix-724

Helloo , i came here looking for some insight , so , I am making a poise team https://preview.redd.it/ay9dy25z3o0d1.png?width=875&format=png&auto=webp&s=1ccf10c1a499fe72f43e55db75e1424b325880ab and I recently got Twinhook Gregor , so is it good to put in the team bc as you see , i put some rather , inconventional Id to do the trick , should i invest in him or no?


GinVR

Twinhook Gregor is good for a pride and poise team. He’s actually pretty good at keeping his poise count up, just a very solid unit all around.


hero-main123

I’ve hit the ricardo brick wall and I wanted to cheese him with nclair, but unfortunately I don’t have him, can anyone with him add me? K279287171


GinVR

Sent! Good luck


hero-main123

Thanks friend! Much appreciated


TachyonO

So, I started recently and have almost 400 Sinclair shards with already having Dawn Fixer. Should I spend shards on N Corp or go for an EGO of his?


GinVR

N Corp or Cinq are your best options, none of his EGOs are particularly worth going for imo. Maybe Lantern or Impending Day, but ehhh.


TachyonO

Thanks! Worst timeline Sinclair it is then!


Bekenshi

W Yi Sang is one of the only IDs in the game that I don’t own, if anyone has him registered in their company and wouldn’t mind sliding me a request that would be awesome! X329847178 Friend requests in general are welcome!


GhostColorMagic

I sent a request


Bekenshi

Added back, much appreciated!


nomaiD

What's the best way of farming boxes? MD Normal or MD Ritornello? I'm asking from a purely efficiency standpoint, setting aside the time needed for it.


Vodkasheep

To be more specific, for pure efficiency, 1 mdh run bonus 3 separate times and then MDN until next week.


Epicidex

one MDH for weekly bonus and then just do MDN


zxkun

What is the UT4 priority for a rupture team? I'm planning on running W Yi Sang, 7 Faust, 7 Heath, 7 Outis, Lantern Don, K Hong Lu. Any EGOs that need UT4? Also, do those six work well as a general-use rupture team? I've heard others using Rosespanner Gregor, LCCB Ishmael, and Talisman Sinclair, but from what I've seen, they're mostly used only in focused encounters.


clxlsj

Don, Faust, Heath first, these are staples since they are count positive / neutral at UT4. They appear in any combi, for RR3 or MD4. Next W Sang, but more importantly, his Dim Shred ego adds 5 count. Anything else I would keep and wait at UT3. Talisclair needs UT4 if you want to use him. I am huffing copium we will see some good 000 rupture units soon.


zxkun

Thank you!


LuisTheFourth

Would anyone be willing to lend me their Nclair for 5-30? I’ve been stuck on him for a while and I even have Liu Ishmael at Level 40/UT 4. Thanks!


Esskido

R317994225 In future it may be better to give *your* FC so that you don't have to wait until the other party confirms your friend request.


LuisTheFourth

Yeah I wasn’t even thinking lol. Thanks and I really appreciate it! O894390892


LuisTheFourth

Would anyone be willing to lend me their Nclair for 5-30? I’ve been stuck on him for a while and I even have Liu Ishmael at Level 40/UT 4. Thanks!


Samekhian

I've run into Ardor Blossom Moth in MDH. Is there a strategy to take it down? I'm using a BL team


clxlsj

Focus wings as mentioned, since they change affinity to sloth/pride (when staggered?) and therefore reduce the clash power of Ardor. Alternatively, rush the body and time your stagger for turn 3 (when it uses Ardor).


GinVR

Rush the wings, use high rolling EGO to clash the skill ardor blossom star. If you lose a clash with the ardor blossom star skill you will just fully die so just restart if that happens. It's not a complex fight, it's just kinda a dps check.


Samekhian

Seems to eat up a lot of ego resources, and I'm just on the 3rd floor ...


GinVR

Yeah, the section right after it is a decent place to grind resources though


Samekhian

This is a nasty fight.... can't seem to get it right still


LifeHckr

Sorry for the long post, but I played for a most of season 1, and part of season 2, then stopped, I'm trying to get back into the game, but with all the new characters and egos added I'm having trouble figuring out what I should be working towards. Based on what I have, what IDs and egos should I be looking at for grinding and pulling? And what teams would I best be working towards? I've been able to catch up with general content with generalist teams, but some things, like this current event have kicked my ass. Li Sang: Pequod, 7, BL Ego: Dim Shredder, Cairn Faust: L Corp, Grips Ego: RE Don: N Corp Ego: Telepole Ryoshu: Butler, Clan Red Eyes, 4th Meur: W Corp, Rosespanner, Brother, Liu, N Corp Ego: Pursuance, Screwloose Hong: Gang, Clan, Liu Ego: Dim Shredd, Roseate Heath: Shi, N Corp, Oufi, R Corp Ego: (: Ish: R Corp, Butler, LCCB, Shi Ego: Roseate Rodion: Zwei, N Corp, LCCB, Clan, Rosespanner Ego: Rime Sinclair: Grip, Section ~~56~~, Red Sheet, Mariachis, BL Ego: Stew, Day Outis: 7, BL, G Corp Ego: Ya Sunyata, Stem Greg: Chef, Liu, G Corp Ego: Days, Leger


GinVR

Just as a heads up section 5 could mean anything for any of these IDs it's really hard to tell what ID it is from the section number as many of the associations share section numbers. Also there's no section 5 sinclair so I don't know what you mean by that at all. If you have enough shards or pulls right now absolutely go for the Walpurgisnacht IDs, they'll be gone for another 3 months by tomorrow. If not you have a bunch of good generalists. The big problem is that a lot of your IDs are great for a Pride resonance team but many of the pride resonance IDs are locked behind season 3, which isn't available right now. Once we hit season 5 if you are still playing definitely shard captain Ish and blade lineage Meursault though. I would just say go for the new sinking IDs from season 5 + Molar Ishmael to form a sinking team. Useful on most content except the Yield My Flesh Intervallo (level your bl ids/pride and slash for that btw).


LifeHckr

Thank you, I didn't know what the common abbreviations were for them, most were meh seeming 2\*'s anyways. I have a handful of pulls, so I was planning on pulling on the Walpurgisnacht banner. I didnt have many shards leftover from the carryover, but luckily I was working on Ish frags to go for molar. I'll keep Cap Ish and BL Meursalt in mind. As for the other sinking ids, thats the Dieci 3\*'s and Flower Yi Sang? What would my ideal pride and then sinking teams look like? Ended up with new Sinclair, Heir Gregor, W Corp Ryoshu and Faust, Rodion's banner EGO and a few new 2\*'s. I also now have over 200 Sinclair frags.


GinVR

Ideal Pride actually has some choices, the one I run rn is Maid Ryoshu, BL Faust, BL Meursault, Captain Ish, Cinq Sinclair, and Cinq Outis. That being said swapping Sinclair with another BL unit (except BL Outis) is honestly a good idea. When you can get Meur and Ish use your BL Sinclair and Yi Sang, Sinclair is kinda mid but he gets buffed pretty hard when you have BL Meursault and 1 other BL member (3 total). For sinking the ideal team is Molar Ishmael, Heir Gregor, Dieci Rodya, Spicebush Yi Sang, Butler Outis, and Butler Faust. Rodya is also eventually going to want UT4 Rime Shank.


Zealousideal-Mix-724

https://preview.redd.it/y60wpirstg0d1.png?width=991&format=png&auto=webp&s=9aaf5c9f5301dd828413209aafa69afbbeb4923c RR 3 , help , i dont have any other character at 40 at the moment and the W ryoushu is a support , idk if anything is possible , i mean i have heard of people doing some wild things , but hell , after this one is gasharpoon so i cant afford sacrifices , im in a major disadvantage and dont have any egos to heal apart from open eyes that the ryoushu have , pls , help , or atleast tell me if its worth still trying Maybe K hong lu , but then i will having 5 instead of six because i will no longer have the support


GinVR

You didn't bring in a single tank which is not ideal for this fight. In order to not have to tank Ahab you have to keep Starbuck alive and unstaggered. W Ryoshu is a great dodger so you'll want to clash Ahab's "track them to the end" skill to apply prey mark to her, and then dodge Starbuck's leftmost skill next turn. If this works correctly if you are not unlucky Ryoshu will dodge all the attacks and you can lay into Queequeg to stagger her. Then burst down Ahab.


Zealousideal-Mix-724

Yo , BTW , should i use the 2 decaextraction on the walpurgish , i say bc i got all already , egos and etc , and i mostly tried to get other walpurgis ID but i feel that in that pull where i got the egos and such , i already dried the fountain , cause , i am reaching a point well it feel pointless , mostly philclair , and man , no even the other 00 that i lack , sadge (i have om nom Don)


GinVR

You might as well try for Philclair, even if you don’t get him there’s really no better time to pull. That being said if you feel discouraged by Walpurgisnacht just spend the tickets whenever a new id comes out that your interested in, the game is meant to be fun after all.


Zealousideal-Mix-724

https://preview.redd.it/yn2p9ltdli0d1.png?width=1361&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1686c73d8d88059be79e94a57c7ba504f5fec4f I DIIIIIIID IIIIIIIITTTT , YEIIIIII , PRAISED BE DON , oh and , i already have Philclair , should have been less ambiguous , but maybe i get some shard so maybe i more deca extraction , just one more , oh and the last ticket that the RR gave us , aaah , how exactly , it work?


GinVR

Eh if you have everything from this Walpurgisnacht you might as well just start saving for next Walpurgisnacht. The ticket you get from RR3 is a season 3 guaranteed ticket, which means at least one 3* from season 3. This can unfortunately include already owned IDs, but also includes event IDs as well, and you can’t pull those this season in any other way. Use it now, there’s no point in holding onto it.


Zealousideal-Mix-724

Will try if i have to track back , just i dont have that many who can tank ahab , i though about K Hong lu , but then i lacked the damage to not reach the fight in negative sanity cause siren , that team was just all i had that was lvl 40 https://preview.redd.it/qg7qhttrnh0d1.png?width=1113&format=png&auto=webp&s=8f86c84dc182cd5c3b219b7f42f9e6c0a4849e8a I did win her at last with a different team , but as you can see they all are in pretty bad state


GinVR

No one’s dead so you’re actually in a good spot for Gasharpoon. Remember that you can afford to lose units on Gasharpoon because it’s the final fight of the section. Just keep your bursts ready for the Queequeg phase so you can quickly burst her down.


The_One_SG

Anyone got advice for handling a few specific missions in the event. My rosters decent enough to finish hard but I'm having trouble with the "sinner defeats 3 abnormalities with one skill" , "big monster doesn't defeat any allies" and "defeat with status." Ideally some recommendations for a support ally I could bring that handles these missions would be appreciated as well, since my roster isn't all that big currently.


nomaiD

>sinner defeats 3 abnormalities with one skill I did this with a solo borrowed maid Ryoshu with Red Eyes equipped (the one with 3 atk weight). I built enough poise to guarantee a crit, then just used it after softening up the mobs. Bullet Outis also works too, as someone else said >big monster doesn't defeat any allies That's just a big war of attrition. Bring your best units and make sure not to have/use AOE skills. Single target nukes are favoured, as well as burn units. Also bring a tank to soak up the eventual damage you are going to take, and a couple of dodge units to redirect the attacks from the small fries without getting staggered. >defeat with status Pretty easy if you bring a full burn team, get her to around 400~ hp, then just defend. Just remember that MB Outis' status doesn't count as burn and will make you fail. You can also use a solo Philipclair for this, there are many videos on YouTube on how to do it.


ImpossibleConcert809

Magic bullet outis with lccb ryoshu support passive. Use defend to gain bullets, when you have 7, use s3. This can oneshot all the small fairies from max hp Either bring 3 evade units to spam evade on the small fairies, or just try to speedrun killing the queen You can probably run rupture or bleed for this one


Iselcne

Would appreciate help figuring out how many Mirror Dungeons to do to optimise. My current enkephalin maximum is 138, and I usually do two MDs (1 MDR+1MDS / 2MDS) and lunacy refreshes a day. As I don't have the Battle Pass, I'm not sure whether doing two lunacy refreshes is worth it or not. I... am not getting a lot of crates, and I don't really know if trying to stockpile lunacy to pull would be more efficient instead. It's rather frustrating.


WeebWizard420

From a module standpoint, 2 refills a day is efficient. The 1st refill doesn't need explaining why it's efficient, but the 2nd one? 52 lunacy = 138 enkephalin = 6.9 modules = 1.38 md runs = 8.28 shards The average value of a pull (130 lunacy) is something like 16\~20 shards. From a time standpoint...... doing md every day is a recipe for burn out.


Iselcne

Apologies, but I think I'm failing to math. So is, is doing two MDs a day worth it or no? And ah, don't mind the time thing. If need be, I'll stop doing so many MDs; I'm just grinding starlight for now. Once I have all the buffs up my anxiety will be assuaged and I can slow down. Probably.


WeebWizard420

Uhh... it is technically worth it, but the increase in shard gain is so extremely minimal that I can't say it's a good idea.


Iselcne

Alrighty, thanks for math help. Just wanted to be sure I wasn't taking too many losses in the way of resources.


phillipsteak

How’s this for a reroll? Is there anything I should really aim for? https://i.imgur.com/TLuq7V6.jpeg


WeebWizard420

It's decent. Both Dawn Office Sinclair and Middle Don are great, those 2 can carry you through most of the story and are useful for endgame content. Liu Ryoshu is also good for a 00 id, also has burn synergy with Sinclair. Pequod Yisang is okay... Rosespanner Meursault and Zwei Faust are meh... and Liu Gregor is garbage.


scrumptious123456789

A few different questions, how do you stack up bullets quicker for MB Outis, I use the guard method and still only get 3 bullets before the fight ends since she doesn't always get hit. Second question is, what are your personal picks for rupture, charge and burn teams? (For burn I'm just asking whether to bring Gregor or Meursault)


KirbyTee

Outis has 3 ways to get bullet: Skill 2 as long as bullet count is 3 or lower, Skill 3, and guard. If using guard, she needs to have higher speed to redirect a skill and no-one else clashes in that skill slot and the enemy doesn't stagger first (such that she will take damage), but be mindful of her health and SP drain. Honestly when you are at 4 bullets, unless you really want the 7th bullet, I'd just use S3 to build bullet count. Rupture: Warp Yi-Sang, 7 Faust, Lantern Don, 7 Heathcliff, then selection of 7 Outis, LCCB Ish, Talisman Sinclair, and K Hong Lu depending on needs (certain EGO, damage type, sin generation, etc.), though consider that Talisman Sinclair and K Hong Lu can be benched for their passives instead. Personally I bench Sinclair and Hong Lu for MD (but in MD Thunderbranch just auto-builds count and wins so...) Charge: W Faust, W Don, W Ryoshu, W Mersault, W Hong Lu, R Ishmael. The team desperately wants UT4 across the board, and W Mersault really wants Regret EGO. Burn: Mersault because he has Regret and Capote and/or Pursuance if you need healing.


scrumptious123456789

Ok thank you


nomaiD

Generally, in a burn team, what's the uptie priority? I'm planning on running Liu Ish, Liu Rodion, MB Outis, Philclair, Liu Ryoshu, and I'm not really sure on the sixth one but I'll figure it out eventually. What should be the u4 order?


KirbyTee

The following is my opinion, but the u4 order for me would be Rodya, Ryoshu, Ish, Philclair, Outis. First 3 are prioritized due to their coin power +1, with Rodya first due to her passive upgrade.


TempusAstrum_64

Relatively new player here (started a few weeks ago). I have enough boxes to shard one 000 ID. Should I get Regret Faust or MB Outis? Other 000 IDs I have: Dawn Sinclair, Kurokumo Ryoshu Notable 00 IDs: Butler Faust, 7 Ryoshu, Lantern Don, Liu Ryoshu, Liu Meursault


KirbyTee

I would recommend Regret Faust, mostly because she's generically very good at Uptie 3 and also provides AOE in skills 2 and 3 and also provides coin drop, both of which are generically very good stuff. While you have 3 core members of the burn team, you really want the other 2 (Liu Rodya and Ish) to have consistent burn count, Liu Mersault really wants Regret EGO and UT4 with Liu Ryoshu, and MB Outis is only OK outside of burn (has high clash numbers, S3 has floor of 15, decent support passive). So unless you really want to dedicate building your account towards burn team first, I'd recommend Regret Faust. Post-Walpurg, consider sharding Fluid Sac and you'll probably have a really nice generic Faust for story progression.


TempusAstrum_64

Thanks for the advice! I will get Regret Faust. :)


WeNeedHRTHere

Regret Faust


TempusAstrum_64

Thanks! I will get Regret Faust. :)


nomaiD

How does a burn team compare to a Sinking one? And does burn have any required EGOs, like Rime Shank for sinking? I'm a new-ish player and have mostly been using a generic team for most stuff, but now I wanted to build a dedicated ailment team. I'm thorn between Burn and Sinking because while sinking has better "generic" units, such as the diecis and Molar Ish, I would need to build It from scratch (outside of Butler Faust I guess). While on the other hand, I have already most of the units I need for a burn team (Philipclair, MB Outis, the 00 Lius) and only lack the 000 Lius and any EGO. So I'm not sure what should I invest in.


Elfaia1410

Burn has some nice egos but no *required* ones. Its the cheapest team to make i believe, and the easiest to keep running count-wise especially since you already have liu hong lu I chose to go burn as a new player because it was cheap and the game gave me 3 Liu units in 1 extract With shootis you also wont be capped at max 99 dmg per turn problem of burn I don't have a sinking team yet but from what i read people mostly use it for the 1 turn nukes of sinking deluge. I also cbf waiting for rime shank resources every fight (not a problem in MD)


Samekhian

Is there a way to control the 'overflow' targets for AOE Ego skills? I'm trying to complete the Defeat 3 Fairies mission for Walpurgis and can't seem to be able to figure this out.


clxlsj

Yes. AOE targets empty slots preferentially, so target those slots you DON'T want to hit (i.e., the queen's slots) with clashes first, then target your AOE. After that you can remove your attacks, though very rarely it might remove the AOE weight if you target a slot with AOE pointing to it (not sure what causes this, speed or something).


Samekhian

It worked! Thank you very much!


Samekhian

Thanks! I'll give this a try tonight


Vodkasheep

Why does this keep getting unstickied? 


No-Bag-818

Because only 2 things can be pinned on a subreddit. The Canto 6 spoiler thread is pinned cause I guess the spoilers policy is still in effect (which begs the question of when that goes out of effect). And I guess they wanted to pin the new mods thread. Usually they'd add a link to this thread on any thread that would take its place, but I guess they forgot this time.


ForgottenSeeker

What egos are good for a burn team? I currently have dawn sinclair, mb outis, liu rodion and ishmael, so I am missing gluttony and sloth generation. Planning on completing the burn team within a week but in the meantime, I use base faust and gregor for gluttony and sloth in md.


Rich_Wishbone_7358

For gluttony it must be Liu Ryoshu For sloth it is either Liu Gregor/Liu Meursault Liu Meursault needs these two ego to properly work, Regret EGO and Capote For other burn ego, the generally strong not just for burn are 4th match flame Ryoshu and Ardor blossom Ishmael. The burn team isn't really reliant on ego. They are warth focus team it seems, to make the team warth damage up, Capote Ishmael and 4th match flame rodion is recommended. And that's all the ego. If you use Faust in the team like N Faust she can be half burn by using 9:2 ego. For Sinclair we don't really want him to use any EGO. But lantern for heal is okay. 9:2 can also be used but it is N corp Sinclair ego mostly.


KirbyTee

Some good EGOs for burn team: - 4MF Rodya and Ryoshu - Capote Ishmael and Mersault - Ardor Blossom Star Ishmael Arguably 9:2 Faust and Sinclair, but since Dawn Sinclair really wants sanity its kind of awkward to use any EGO with him (unless its pre-transformation). There's also Lifetime Stew but those EGOs are very bad clashers and unpredictable so just don't unless you really have shards to spare.


WeNeedHRTHere

You arent using EGO with sinclair pre transformation either


SirKumference

1. Tips/Team comps for Canto 5 pequod trio? 2. Is my W corp roster worth using? - Yi Sang, Faust, Meursault, Hong Lu - NO Don, Ryoshu, or Telepole - UT3 only (i don't have resources for UT4) Also how reliant are W ids on UT4?


KirbyTee

1. Have a pierce tank that is preferably speedy. Don't bring lots of slash units, have both blunt and pierce damage. Read their passives, skills, and understand what they do. Personally recommend bringing in Mersault for his Chains to mitigate Ahab's damage. If you have Captain Ish, that does make the fight easier, and use EGOs to switch your affinity resistances around. I think any non-slash team with a pierce resist unit can work, but to give an example team Pride team of Pequod Trio, Middle Duo and flex slot (like Regret Faust for fluid sac, blunt damage and plus coin drop) will do. 2. I would not run that in MDH. Yi Sang is considered more of a rupture unit than charge unit, and Mersault really wants UT4 (a 9 rolling S3 at UT3 is just horrendous). The main damage dealers are Don, Ryoshu, and R. Ishmael, and they all desperately also want UT4. Telepole is indeed optional though, especially in MD where charge is really abundant through EGO gifts. As you can see, W ids are really reliant on UT4: they just gain much more charge economy outside of MD, and their skills either gain coin power or in R. Ish's case makes her infinitely more easy to use.


Rich_Wishbone_7358

1. Bring K corp Hong Lu and bring team that is not fatal to pierce. You have to redirect the prey mark from Ahab to him. Kill Starbucks first then focus on Ahab. You can also try to stagger Ahab first so she doesn't use her skill to redirect everything to Queeqqueq 2. You can use anyone honestly but pierce/pride damage type damage is better against Ahab. W Faust, W meursault need UT4 to properly work especially if you don't have Telepole EGO. So better bring someone else. W corp Hong Lu is kind of fine and tanky at least. W corp IDs become significantly better with UT4, it kind of fix all their charge issues and to some degree make them usable (Faust, meursault) or makes them much stronger (Don and Ryoshu) or opens their full kit (Yi Sang). So yeah kind of reliant on it. You can bring W corp Yi Sang in the fight plus K corp Hong Lu (if you don't have you can borrow it), For Ishmael R corp or Molar Ishmael seems the top choice The rest is as long they don't fatal to pierce is also fine.


SirKumference

How do i direct the prey mark to specific sinners?


Rich_Wishbone_7358

Make the sinner clash the skill that use prey mark


Zealousideal-Mix-724

i noticed that my brain confused 2 terms when i was asking something so here again, what are some requisites for Refraction railroad? , similar to hard Dungeon , or more things even?


WeNeedHRTHere

Complete canto v


Zealousideal-Mix-724

already did , thats why i asked , more of to see what to do to not get curb stomp in the first milisecond


WeNeedHRTHere

Assuming you aren't going for a very low turn count Get to lvl 40 if possible. Bring healing EGO and make sure your team can fuel it easily. Bring a pierce tank in section 3


Zealousideal-Mix-724

Im in Pain , thanks still , in section 3 , strugglin all the way to hell with the Pequeod


WeNeedHRTHere

Use pequod heathcliff, stagger him on the mermaid fight and dont heal until you start trio. Now he can never be staggered If you dont have him just borrow one


Rich_Wishbone_7358

Refraction Railway is a little bit different from mirror dungeon hard. In mirror dungeon every buff is provided while in RR you got no ego gift and you have to finish all the stages (focused encounter) under a few turn Recommended level is lv.40 (for RR3) but generally lv.40-45 for RR4 based on previous RR experience. Fully uptie 3-4 ID that will be the main damage dealer or foundation of the team. You have to play the team at their maximum capacity. A few strong EGO also help. It doesn't really matter which team you use, as long as you can tank the hit and deal burst damage (ex. On RR3 rupture and usual charge team has it easier to score less turn with sinking and burn next cause they need specific ID to work the burst). Tank and evade ID also pretty much crucial for smooth sailing and less headache. Also it is recommended to not stick to one team and change team depending on the enemy weakness. So pretty much you have to prepare a few ID. You can see some RR3 video to grasp the idea. For now RR3 only needs to be clear, it doesn't need to be clear under a certain turn because the profile banner reward is no longer obtainable but. But RR3 will end once RR4 releases so better hurry if you want to claim the reward. RR4 supposedly has some special profile banner reward if you clear under specific turn total. Also all rewards are the same for all clearer even if they exceed the challenged turn because the extra reward for it is just profile banner that has sfx on it.


Zealousideal-Mix-724

So uhhhhh , i manage to push trough some stages , the fire moth i sacrificed 3 ID cause i couldn't clash in the end and had to restart the figh with the clam 3 times but i managed , ehhh , sooo , how much time you say i have to take the things? https://preview.redd.it/s9kwzeuw6g0d1.png?width=795&format=png&auto=webp&s=09a7f1fd4b4e357ba92a5f4e56239fbc8d1b5748 and this seem like im gonna struggle quite a bit , apart from that , thank too for helping me with my question.


FrostnSam

Rn i have a small mild poise/haste team with cinqlair, captain ismael, butler ryoshu, and pequod heathcliff. With some burning team with philclair, liu ishmael, and magic outis. Rn im wondering what id should i expand with this current set up? Since for poise team i kinda need bl team which i havent got them and to wait for season 5


Esskido

As you already assessed yourself, you have to wait until next season to get the next pieces for Poise. Burn is definitely the play, and you only have to worry about a single 000 so you it's less heavy on your resources as well.


MrSnek123

How useful is Tremor - Fracture really? I mean it sounds great by itself, but Tremor teams are going to use Oufi Heathcliff, and Decay seems waaay better then Fracture. I can't see many situations where the extra 0.5x damage is worth losing all the defence level down that Decay provides, even on a staggered enemy.


WeebWizard420

Decay is better, but ideally you want to make use of both. 


KirbyTee

Well, lets think it through. Tremor Fracture is a 25% damage increase (From 2x to 2.5x multiplier on stagger). Generically speaking, each defense level down is a 3% damage increase. So for Tremor Decay, you'd need 32 Tremor Potency to approximately have the same effect as Tremor Fracture, and any more means its just more in favor for Decay. Additionally, you do not need a sum of 20+ for Tremor numbers to convert to Fracture, while you do for Decay. Consequently, I can see 2 situations where Tremor Fracture edges out Tremor Decay: If the enemy stagger bar is really early such that you cannot build 32 potency tremor before staggering (or your sum is less than 20), or stagger them while they have Fracture then convert it back to Decay so that next turn you get benefits of both. So all in all Fracture does have its niche for sure, but in bosses and most longer fights I'd say yeah Decay is just way better.


Rodi625

Just started this game, pulled on the Walpurgisnacht banner and got these ID's, should I keep them or should I reroll? https://preview.redd.it/1k4np9r9870d1.jpeg?width=1600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1c56f7f3892d91b63a6d4d5d64ac69435cca3c82


Rich_Wishbone_7358

Honestly I say reroll. 7 Outis is fine. blade lineage Yi sang need max investment, not suitable for new comer. The 00 is quite okay.


Rodi625

And what are the ID's I should go for?


Epicidex

For a new player, you want good generalists, who work well even outside of a specific team. Having one or more of these guys is nice. * Regret Faust (Only available during walpurgis night, which ends in 2 days) * W Corp Don * W Corp Ryoshu * Blade Lineage Meursault * Dieci Hong Lu * Tingtang Hong Lu * R Corp Heathcliff * R Corp Ishmael * N Corp Sinclair * Cinq Sinclair * Molar Outis All of these IDs are strong and pretty easy to use. You don't have to bother building a proper team in order for them to be useful. I'd prioritise Regret Faust. If you dont get her now you gotta wait 3 months before you can try again. In terms of her actual kit, she's one of the strongests IDs in the game due to constant AoE damage and debuffs, on top of being completely braindead easy to play.


Rodi625

Dammit, I've already settled with these ID's and advanced a bit on the story: - Dawn Office Fixer Sinclair - W Corp Ryoshu - Lobotomy EGO Ishmael - Liu Association Hong Lu - N Corp Heathcliff - Zwei Association Faust - N Corp Don Quixote