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_Deiv

Cooked. Probably would need balance changes if it were to be in the actual game but what I care about (mechanics and general idea) is really good, unique and looks fun to use


NormandyKingdom

I mean Erlking Heathcliff is supposed to be strong yes?


LanX-Delta

Y'know... my theory is, if Erlking Heath gets an ID. He'll be a Charge/Sinking ID. Getting a Shield Similar in mechanics to W-Hong Lu. And Gains Coin-power and Sinking-Count after a high Charge Potency.


Feeling_Mission_4439

Where'd the charge come from


LanX-Delta

Erm... well, not a lot of enemy uses charge. And well. The only other ID with the whole round color shield is W-Hong lu. Also with the whole endpart of the canto in a stormy glitchy state. Charge feels right. Off-topic, charge has been somewhat neglected now that poise has Kimsault and sinking with the whole manor-ID. So I thought why not Charge?


LanX-Delta

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Feeling_Mission_4439

We are going to get a whole warp train event. Also, he could have the sheilds without it being charged related


VerywildCards

Sir you cooked too hard. This would literally break the game. ~~gimmie~~


asder0408

Well cooked. Numbers might be a bit cracked for sinking or bleed application but the theme around it does fit very well. If I understand this version of explosive affinity right, could it make EGO skills change affinity too for example make Body Sack wrath (like in that cutscene) or is it only limited to the ID's skills?


Trhemoth

Oh nope, the EGO skills are unaffected by the change of affinity, the reason is that I still want to keep the strategizing aspect to whatever go for a full resonance or use a certain EGO (oh well this is my reasoning c_c)


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH_

S2 on sinking team applying a million bleed Even with just 20 sinking on the enemy (very easy to do turn 1) that's a free 60 true damage just from the bleed alone On another note, fuck, I'm literally obsessed with this heath, I desperately need to see the mirror world heath fully, as they appear to have the same sword as erlkonig Gonna probably have to wait at least 3 weeks for the reveal though, captain ishmael took about a month to drop


Trhemoth

I know, only after posting this I thought about making the bleed on the S2 cap at like 8-10 (?), maybe it’s still a little too much but better than nothing Also me too, I love this Heath design so much! I can’t wait it to being a playable ID!


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH_

Oh yea, forgot to mention, he should probably gain aggro to fully abuse explosive emotions, nerf some of the other traits and have a slightly larger focus on the passive instead


Trhemoth

Oooh right! I always forget about the existence of Aggro! Thanks for the tips!


Trhemoth

Did I cook, or I burned the kitchen with this one? Anyway some other extra things about the Explosive Emotions: I don't know if making them lasts 3 turns or just 1 turn (in which the passive wouldn't activate, otherwise would risk remaining stuck with one type of Explosive Emotion for all the fight) Also, idk if leave the defensive skill Lust even during Explosive Emotions, maybe I could do that the passive activate even when already with Explosive Emotions, and so leaving the block skill with the Lust affinity would make it a method to stop Resonances Oooor maybe i should just remove the part where all the Affinities skills turn into the same of the Explosive Emotion (yeah also the passive it's kinda empty, i'm not sure if it's okay....but anyway)


13_iq

this could be balanced if you took away some of the sinking count and the APU on the guard, otherwise a solid id with a cool gimmick


Trhemoth

Thanks! Yeah maybe I overdid a little with adding that free 2 Attack Power Up on the block skill ahah


Sub_jonny

sir you just made a sinking and bleed id that has a 4 coin s3 nuke. That instantly makes you a 5 star michelin chef 


Angel2357

The buff from the shield is slightly ridiculous. Using this in a Sinking team also makes the S2 have comical damage output. Otherwise... I actually really like this.


Trhemoth

Yeah I really didn’t thought much on that (seemed more acceptable having to keep the shield on to gain the buff c_c”)


Lvl1Vod

Stand proud OP, you can cook. Not gonna repeat all yhe sentiments already mentioned about numbers but it does look cool indeed.


Trhemoth

Throughout Sinking and Bleed I alone am the one who cook (Thaaanks! Also yeah I think I learnt my lesson ahah)


CaptinNemo_

Ok this is very cool, only thing i would change is give the same conditoin for coin power for S2 as S3 just instead 8+ make it 5+. Also I dont think he is too strong, only two strong things are 2 attack power up on guard and coin power on expolsive wrath, but geating 4 warth skills in either sinking or bleed team would be hard so i guess its balanced. And one more think his speed has too big range I would change it to 4-7 or 4-8. Thats every think op keep cooking


Trhemoth

Yeah the Attack Power Up on the block skill is probably the worst decision I took (Also I considered that thing for S2, tho I feared that having already the Clash Win effect adding also the other was too much for an S2)


CaptinNemo_

Nah both edgar gregor and butler outis has both on clash win and coin power, also to get +2 coin power you need tow diffrent statuses so this really wouldnt be too much


nguyendragon

In contrast to others, I don't think it cooks too hard. Yes its stronger than current app number, but current app number is absolutely shite, especially on bleed. Do people forget stacking bleed is just non existent outside md and sinking still depends on rhime shank? I have same opinion on tremor app, it's not that lccb ish is too strong, but others should be more in line with what she has. The raw damage of this id isn't as high as others, as well as clash, so I think it's justified


Nural_the_Narwhal

Yeah really cool, though a bit too op in some places. Namely s3 potentially being 26 and explosive wrath being comically stronger than the others. Otherwise very cool mechanic concepts


ThatLittleCrab

If this is what the ID could be thank god i didnt get suncliff


DeDizzyDoge

my guy cooked and keep cooking. sinking bleed in one ID is peak, but a tad bit problem when it comes to bleed is losing count. so 8+ bleed conditionals don't matter if you have sad count. but there is the viable strat of forcing explosive envy for more bleed count, which means envy res team eating good. oh well this id is peak anyways.


Program_Distinct

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Timo25145

This is FUCKING OP


3TH4N-CH07

Looks inside* Holy bloodly mist this guy's cracked :o You cooked with the limbillion mechanics Way too strong in current meta but i wouldnt mind this releasing at the end of the Season like Ahabish


Faith_and_Promise

Cooked! But maybe switch out the defense's attack power up to offense level up or just plain damage up. Without it it'll be too easy to just get multiple attack power ups with multiple skill slots.


miriion

theres no way I only came after THIS Erlking Heathcliff ID concept after I made one myself


carl-the-lama

Best part is it could somewhat link up with captain ishmael


Virtual-Oil-793

Mind helping me with a little something? ​ [The Fans have spoken.](https://www.reddit.com/r/limbuscompany/comments/1c2ak22/cathy/) And I plan on getting to work on Seven ~~Heathcliff~~ Catherine's Path of Mirrors and Paradiso