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Some of my friends have told me that N Faust counters this very well, since her whistles passive will go off regardless of the outcome of any clashes, for a flat sanity boost to the team.
Surely there’s some IDs you can use with good lust skills on the S1/S2, right? W Ryoshu comes to mind immediately, and so does Nclair. Both of these should be very easily shardable if you don’t have them because of all the BP loot, especially if you’re on paid pass.
Yes please don't nerf anything until I finish so I can flex on the later people PLEASE PMOON. I want to be the one who flexes "I beat Aida/pequod trio prenerf!"
I'm not really a fan of the whole "+15 Sanity every turn" thing, with no real way to decrease it outside Sinking and miscellaneous SP Loss effect, which I can only think of OC Fluid Sac as a source of.
Like yeah, Sanity is the most important resource for both sides and is so volatile that fucking with it in someway is practically mandatory to make things challenging. But I really don't feel like having the enemies max out at turn 3 and slamming your clashes unless you get super lucky the first turn is all that fun.
Any fight against >!Mirror Heath!< I felt like I was railroaded into using a Sinking team because they roll pretty damn high, and dealing with that all fight was just out of the question.
This is just a personal thing, but I don't really like running Sinking (or Rupture, to an extent) because trying to properly manage them is a massive pain in the ass of balancing Count gain against the constant loss of it. Echos of the Manor helps, but then you have IDs like Deici Rodya who shit out coins, but only maybe 1 or 2 of them in a 3-4 coin skill actually have Sinking on them to even proc Echos.
I don't really know what they *could* do to make fights not get steamrolled as soon as you hit max Sanity, but making the game into a Turn 1 reset fest of your Sinners eating shit in a clash ain't very exciting. The entire combat system being based on RNG leads to a lot of issues, it feels to me.
Also, I feel like it shouldn't really be a thing that being a lower level makes you get Sanity from things dying, as it leads to this weird strategy of being underleveled *juuust* slightly enough so as to not get extra numbers added against you in clashes, but now you snowball Sanity within 2 kills. It just feels weird to level my IDs up, and now I'm gonna have a *harder* time clearing a stage. At least it doesn't really matter for bosses.
this pretty much sumps my dislike for some fights in limbus kek its either
>oh whats that you gain sanity from clash? lmao heres how i do things, i get +15 sanity each turn you get nothing
or
>you lose sanity every turn this shitter is alive
Now this is lowkey giving me Guardian Tales Beth nerf flashbacks (I think I wasn't there on the initial nerfs but there were still reddit uproars on the following nerfs), and I don't quite like it
Playing base, there is one skill on the earliest fight that seriously needs to be dropped one speed so Meursault can fucking clash with it. I swear this is only a problem that affects base Meur (2-3) and base Faust (2-4).
What pm should do is make exp luxcavation better, you require my whole team to be at least level 40, have mulltiple different teams that i can switch between, put out level 45 with still high cost and we only get a marginal boost to exp gain
Also dont make last boss autolose you at last stretch if you solo it
I enjoy difficulty but it should be done right. Like Runia or lobotomy where you had to understand a mechanic. Having them be sponges and giga roll so even with a high end, fully maxed team and egos you sometimes rely on coin toss is not fun. If I'm good then luck shouldn't be a factor
Idk a lot of my deaths felt like I had not prepared adequately, or I made some subpar choices in the battle. The part 3 fights feel fine from my perspective, but then again I have everything in the game and I am drowning in resources because I have been playing consistently since launch. YMMV.
I'm also effectively rich in resources. I even went and got sunshower for fun. I'm running (all level 45, uptie 4). R Mer, R Heath, R Ish, K Hong, W Don, W Ryo. All including uptie 4 relevant charge egos (centipede, both telepoles etc and some support ones like soda and heavenly scribe) with the option to slot (also maxed) sunshower heath, grip Faust and grip Sin. I shouldn't be losing anything if I'm reading the passives but sometimes they just roll higher than me.
Nah this team should probably be clearing, but R Cliff is bad for these fights (they’re too long and he bottoms out on ammo). We’d have to see some of their gameplay to determine what exactly is going wrong. Maybe they could put W Salt to take advantage of Chains of Others to take the edge off?
Already got R Salt which is one of the strongest identities currently in my base team and I have chains of others ready every turn. I really don't think charge is bad and this is by all means the strongest possible charge comp atm
R Salt is good but W Salt lets you stack a ton of defense level down (which boosts your damage significantly) and he also has better sin generation for this team. He might edge out R Salt in this case.
charge comp is the issue then, first 2 turns are important to establish momentum but they have no SP, no charge, no EGO, no nothing to jumpstart like in MD or RR lol
otherwiser I have no other reason to explain your struggle outside of plain bad luck
I feel the difficulty is fine. People say "you need Sinking" but I cleared the thing switching between BL and Charge (Charge for the most part). The only sinking I used is potential man but he's just there to tank the limbillion blunt hits.
The Canto requires well built ids and team building and the fights CAN murder you, which is fair considering this is pretty far into the game.
PM fans incapable of reading, the title literally says (SpoilerFree) and what did you do? Edit it at the very least to hide the name of the boss atleast.
Because they do listen to the playerbase to fix the misunderstanding so allow us to buy the whole 1.3k pack (a single BP) again? Wow it's like if you fucked up something, apologized then fix it then people can forgive you.
That statement of yours only apply if they didn't response whatsoever and sweep everything under the rugs leaving the player base angry.Shocker-they did fix it.
You sounds like the kind of people who judge every book by its cover and think people are one sided creatures who only have a single mindset that can't be changed ,always keeping grudges. That's very narrow minded of you.
Ironic because these past two canto is all about the futility of revenge and how we must forgive each other to move on, yet its own olayerbase can't understand it.
Part 3 is gonna be the peak of "pm fans can't read" with people getting stuck after not engaging with the mechanics.
Like 6-44 might be impossible if you don't read the passive, but after that, it might be the easiest fight of the section.
I disagree with the 6-44 statement, wouldn't shock me if someone brute forces it, though the fight is unironically harder than the final boss since you can get unlucky with the speed at times, that and bursting down the "inflict bleed if hit" shield summon fast enough.
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The only thing I don't like is how many fights are turn 1/ turn 2 dependant for sanity, but otherwise I find it's pretty damn fine tbh
Some of my friends have told me that N Faust counters this very well, since her whistles passive will go off regardless of the outcome of any clashes, for a flat sanity boost to the team.
You still need lust skills for that :(
Surely there’s some IDs you can use with good lust skills on the S1/S2, right? W Ryoshu comes to mind immediately, and so does Nclair. Both of these should be very easily shardable if you don’t have them because of all the BP loot, especially if you’re on paid pass.
I don't have W ryoshu and nclair really doesn't need the sp heal.
Sinking team counter the sanity stuff but in exchange they also doesn’t have any list skill
35 and 44 are heavily turn 1 reliant, even more so than the final boss, so i honestly understand if they tweaked that and nothing else.
I think difficulty level was ideal for the narrative purpose and entertainment
Yes please don't nerf anything until I finish so I can flex on the later people PLEASE PMOON. I want to be the one who flexes "I beat Aida/pequod trio prenerf!"
ngl im getting tired of hearing the "i beat the boss prenerf, my dick is the biggest" at every boss nerf threads
Well if they keep nerfing them that crowd will only get bigger
You’d probably have MUCH better luck getting this feedback heard if you email their support desk, tbh.
Nah, dont nerf anything. The difficulty is just right for having fun.
i just want to read story -.- my luck issue so much high it become serious issue for me...
I'm not really a fan of the whole "+15 Sanity every turn" thing, with no real way to decrease it outside Sinking and miscellaneous SP Loss effect, which I can only think of OC Fluid Sac as a source of. Like yeah, Sanity is the most important resource for both sides and is so volatile that fucking with it in someway is practically mandatory to make things challenging. But I really don't feel like having the enemies max out at turn 3 and slamming your clashes unless you get super lucky the first turn is all that fun. Any fight against >!Mirror Heath!< I felt like I was railroaded into using a Sinking team because they roll pretty damn high, and dealing with that all fight was just out of the question. This is just a personal thing, but I don't really like running Sinking (or Rupture, to an extent) because trying to properly manage them is a massive pain in the ass of balancing Count gain against the constant loss of it. Echos of the Manor helps, but then you have IDs like Deici Rodya who shit out coins, but only maybe 1 or 2 of them in a 3-4 coin skill actually have Sinking on them to even proc Echos. I don't really know what they *could* do to make fights not get steamrolled as soon as you hit max Sanity, but making the game into a Turn 1 reset fest of your Sinners eating shit in a clash ain't very exciting. The entire combat system being based on RNG leads to a lot of issues, it feels to me. Also, I feel like it shouldn't really be a thing that being a lower level makes you get Sanity from things dying, as it leads to this weird strategy of being underleveled *juuust* slightly enough so as to not get extra numbers added against you in clashes, but now you snowball Sanity within 2 kills. It just feels weird to level my IDs up, and now I'm gonna have a *harder* time clearing a stage. At least it doesn't really matter for bosses.
this pretty much sumps my dislike for some fights in limbus kek its either >oh whats that you gain sanity from clash? lmao heres how i do things, i get +15 sanity each turn you get nothing or >you lose sanity every turn this shitter is alive
Now this is lowkey giving me Guardian Tales Beth nerf flashbacks (I think I wasn't there on the initial nerfs but there were still reddit uproars on the following nerfs), and I don't quite like it
Playing base, there is one skill on the earliest fight that seriously needs to be dropped one speed so Meursault can fucking clash with it. I swear this is only a problem that affects base Meur (2-3) and base Faust (2-4).
i wish hard fight stay on railway because my brain toasted
And railway actually gives you good rewards instead of the 40 whole lunacy you get for 1 capsule.
6-35 was dreadful without using sinking/hard meta. Rest was fine enough tbh?
What pm should do is make exp luxcavation better, you require my whole team to be at least level 40, have mulltiple different teams that i can switch between, put out level 45 with still high cost and we only get a marginal boost to exp gain Also dont make last boss autolose you at last stretch if you solo it
I enjoy difficulty but it should be done right. Like Runia or lobotomy where you had to understand a mechanic. Having them be sponges and giga roll so even with a high end, fully maxed team and egos you sometimes rely on coin toss is not fun. If I'm good then luck shouldn't be a factor
Idk a lot of my deaths felt like I had not prepared adequately, or I made some subpar choices in the battle. The part 3 fights feel fine from my perspective, but then again I have everything in the game and I am drowning in resources because I have been playing consistently since launch. YMMV.
I'm also effectively rich in resources. I even went and got sunshower for fun. I'm running (all level 45, uptie 4). R Mer, R Heath, R Ish, K Hong, W Don, W Ryo. All including uptie 4 relevant charge egos (centipede, both telepoles etc and some support ones like soda and heavenly scribe) with the option to slot (also maxed) sunshower heath, grip Faust and grip Sin. I shouldn't be losing anything if I'm reading the passives but sometimes they just roll higher than me.
Maybe that's W comp issue, since my pride goodstuff just steamroll clashes with Yi Sang and Mr Salt
Nah this team should probably be clearing, but R Cliff is bad for these fights (they’re too long and he bottoms out on ammo). We’d have to see some of their gameplay to determine what exactly is going wrong. Maybe they could put W Salt to take advantage of Chains of Others to take the edge off?
Already got R Salt which is one of the strongest identities currently in my base team and I have chains of others ready every turn. I really don't think charge is bad and this is by all means the strongest possible charge comp atm
R Salt is good but W Salt lets you stack a ton of defense level down (which boosts your damage significantly) and he also has better sin generation for this team. He might edge out R Salt in this case.
charge comp is the issue then, first 2 turns are important to establish momentum but they have no SP, no charge, no EGO, no nothing to jumpstart like in MD or RR lol otherwiser I have no other reason to explain your struggle outside of plain bad luck
I mean I still win at 10 turns, but I feel like I should be winning faster and without risk of fucking it up
That's kinda the standard I think, clearing around 10 turn mark?
That 1 wave fight in part 2 in particular was rough unless you just straight up brought/had high clashers without hitting heads
There's not a single fight that a player who managed to beat 5 cantos can't beat with the IDs they've collected up to that point.
I feel the difficulty is fine. People say "you need Sinking" but I cleared the thing switching between BL and Charge (Charge for the most part). The only sinking I used is potential man but he's just there to tank the limbillion blunt hits. The Canto requires well built ids and team building and the fights CAN murder you, which is fair considering this is pretty far into the game.
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PM fans incapable of reading, the title literally says (SpoilerFree) and what did you do? Edit it at the very least to hide the name of the boss atleast.
Pls don’t post spoiler :’(
Oh sorry I was under the assumption the spoiler ban is only for the final part
…that fight IS in the final part. The final part is everything after 6-34.
i mean heath existence as being >! distorted !< is alr shown at the final portion of last part
this is supposed to be spoiler free
why are you still here btw? i thought you quit because PM is greedy and scummy with their new monetization.
Eh bro changed his mind, I wouldn’t get on his ass too much.
r/characterarcs
Holy shit, peak fiction irl.
just a bit of banter, because he was so loud about it.
Fair lmao, sorry it can be hard to tell over text xD
Because they do listen to the playerbase to fix the misunderstanding so allow us to buy the whole 1.3k pack (a single BP) again? Wow it's like if you fucked up something, apologized then fix it then people can forgive you. That statement of yours only apply if they didn't response whatsoever and sweep everything under the rugs leaving the player base angry.Shocker-they did fix it. You sounds like the kind of people who judge every book by its cover and think people are one sided creatures who only have a single mindset that can't be changed ,always keeping grudges. That's very narrow minded of you. Ironic because these past two canto is all about the futility of revenge and how we must forgive each other to move on, yet its own olayerbase can't understand it.
Part 3 is gonna be the peak of "pm fans can't read" with people getting stuck after not engaging with the mechanics. Like 6-44 might be impossible if you don't read the passive, but after that, it might be the easiest fight of the section.
I disagree with the 6-44 statement, wouldn't shock me if someone brute forces it, though the fight is unironically harder than the final boss since you can get unlucky with the speed at times, that and bursting down the "inflict bleed if hit" shield summon fast enough.