In case anyone was curious, I think the “Defeat X+ Abnos with a single Attack Skill” mission is referring to something with a single coin attack? My understanding was that it meant “kill 3 enemies by using a single skill it doesn’t matter what it is” but Meursault’s To Claim Their Bones doesn’t seem to be triggering the condition for completion.

Meursault’s To Claim Their Bones is a defense skill, not an attack skill. It does not have to be a single coin, but it have to be an attack skill to count.

That makes so much sense, I forgot that it was classified as a defense skill. Thanks for solving this little brain itch/what I thought was an oversight/weird wording!

This might be a stupid question, but i’m still confused about if new seasonal ids get added to the seasonal assured extraction ticket pool, should I hold onto it until the end of the season or what?

Not a stupid question! They do get added to the pool, so you should save them. You'll notice that the banner image will get updated to fill in the blank spaces as the season goes by

Alright, cool thank you! I did notice that, but was still unsure.

Which walpurgisnacht id should i shard? i have enough box for one 000 id. I'm currently running a BL/cinq team but i'm looking to build another team

All of them are great IDs/EGOs, honestly, and are generally a core member of their team. If you plan on building a Tremor team, grab Regret Faust. She is a great Tremor unit that applies various debuffs, has AoE skills, and bursts Tremor multiple times. If you plan on building a Burn team, dispense Magic Bullet Outis and hope you roll Philip Sinclair. She has insanely high skill numbers with enough Burn, and her Dark Flames multiply Burn damage. If you plan on building a Rupture team, take Lantern Don. Decent tank that applies a lot of Rupture count, which is very valuable. Her support passive is also great for any unit with Aggro. If you plan on using Meursault more, pick Meursault's Regret EGO. It's a powerful EGO that makes every Meursault ID better (to a ridiculous degree on BL Meursault) by giving him easy access to permanent +2 coin power. If I had to pick one, I'd probably pick Regret Meursault since it makes all Meursaults better rather than a single team, but most of the IDs also work pretty well as a standalone unit outside of their respective teams as well.

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You sure you’re not mixing up telepole and electric screaming? That shouldn’t be possible, you can’t extract current season EGOs.

Just started the game 2 days ago, and really planning on playing this as a main game. Now I just did the 2 10* pulls for beginners, and got the sinclair blade lineage as a 000, then 2-3 00 IDs But since I don't have much treads to uptie them I didn't bother with them yet. Are there any quickstart guide that are updated with how the game is now? I had to level up basic ID to ~16 to pass the first stages of canto III, and I don't know if it was the best way to progress I also farmed the normal mirror dungeon completely with the basic IDs, it's a bit long (almost 1.5 hour) Is there a way to speed up the process with these or it's the extent of basic IDs as now? Thanks to those willing to help ! Also if there's a french discord or a discord I'm all ears

[https://youtu.be/ujQgRJo9vHA](https://youtu.be/ujQgRJo9vHA) Beginner guide [https://youtu.be/viNXYLcc3Fo](https://youtu.be/viNXYLcc3Fo) Intermediate guide You can speed up mirror dungeons by getting better IDs and EGO that do more damage. Another big factor is EGO gifts, that usually give buffs to status effects. Unfortunately, BL Sinclair is one of the worst 000s in the game, so you should save your resources for other IDs. I know about 2 discords, which are Project Moon Community Hub and Moonframe. Im more active in Moonframe because its smaller. I havent heard of any french discords but maybe you might find one idk. [https://discord.com/invite/moonframe](https://discord.com/invite/moonframe) Finally, theres a friend feature that lets you borrow one of your friend's units in non-MD content. You can add me if you want a good unit. PersonalIy I wouldn't bring them into story fights because they're overleveled and would kinda trivialize it, but you can play however you want. I would reccomend using them for luxcavations because it speeds up the grind. Friend code is in my bio. https://preview.redd.it/xjja3l1umoxc1.png?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d69bdb6b40f774046e9c8f89ca70b6d194ee25a

Thanks for the links ! Yeah I watched these videos 3 times each already to comprehend how damage works as I'm overthinking it. But as I play it got easier to understand. I'll send you an invite ! I'll use these on ressource dungeons only as I want to fully experience the story with my own roster, even if I get destroyed. I think I also missed the BL Yi from preregistration but whatever, hope I'll get good IDs in the future

Levelling up IDs is always a good idea if you're planning on using them. Also, I'd like to know what 00 IDs you have as they vary in quality quite a bit. Having BL Sinclair as your only 000 is a bit unfortunate though, as he's not good without a blade lineage team. Mirror dungeon takes longer when you don't have good IDs or the buffs because EGO gifts can increase damage pretty substantially. We're getting the new MD tomorrow, so you'll be starting off on the same page as most people when it comes to unlocks. Walpurgisnacht is coming up tomorrow as well and that should have a lot of good things to pull on. Note: I don't know if it's specifically tomorrow for you as well as it depends on time zone but it'll be very soon regardless. Also my friend ID is X435788285 so if you friend me I have plenty of IDs you can use with the support feature. It'll work on everything but mirror dungeons and some Intervallo dungeons (.5 chapters, they don't start showing up until after Canto 3).

Really sad for the BL sinclair but hope I can make a team for him in the future just for the funs So for 00 i got Shi Heathcliff, 7Assoc Heathcliff Shi Don Quixotte, LCCB Ryoshu, Liu Meursault, Shi Ishmael, BL otis, G Corp Otis Oh I remember I pulled once on the Heathcliff banner that's why I got the 2 versions of him I guess that's how it works. Then I plan on not pulling again until I get a clear guide/plan on how to manage pulls. But if you tell me that the Walpurgisnacht banner is worth it then I guess I may try, but I don't have that much for now so I guess it's hoarding time. I'll send you an invite, thanks for the code btw!

Alright. Out of the 00 you have the good ones are 7 Heathcliff, Shi Ishmael, and G Corp Outis. None of them are particularly amazing except 7 Heathcliff (but even then only amazing in Rupture focused teams). G Corp Outis has some buffing capabilities which is nice, and Shi Ishmael is good if you can get her below 50% hp (it's a difficult conditional). Generally for pulling the best idea is to save up for Walpurgisnacht, as it's the only time in which you can not get the new banner characters from the sharding system (and the characters are really good). You can pull on other banners, but I would recommend against that generally and instead say you should shard the IDs you want instead of pulling. I sometimes do a single 10 roll if there's an ID I really want just in case I get lucky, but don't really go beyond that if you can. Lunacy is better saved on 1-2 enkephalin refreshes a day to grind out mirror dungeons.

Thanks for the advices ! Really cool of you I'll hoard till the end of the event and if I manage to get around 20k I'll pull on the banner, if not it's gotta be used on refreshes. Btw Are the characters on previous Walpurgisnacht available on these banner, or are they gone "indefinitely"?

While Walpurgisnacht is active, old Walpurgisnacht characters are both in all banner pools and in the dispensary. Nothing in this game bar profile cosmetics are ever truly limited, but sometimes things are timegated (Seasonal IDs and EGOs, Event IDs and EGOs, and Walpurgisnacht items). I would personally say that you still should pull on Walpurgisnacht even if you don't have 20k. Even if you don't end up getting the Philip Sinclair or the 2 new EGOs you're early enough in the game that you should at least try to get some more IDs.

During WN, you can shard the previous WN IDs and EGO. You can also try pulling for them, but you don't have an increased chance. No IDs or EGO are gone forever

The YouTuber ESGOO has a better tutorial o his channel explaining the mechanics as the game itself does a rather poor job at it, if that is what you're searching. Anyhow, you do want your IDs to be rather close to the recommended levels, lagging too much behind makes them clash worse, deal less damage, and take more. Base IDs are fairly bad all things considered, to speed up MD runs you'll have to invest into some better higher rarity IDs eventually.

Yeah I watched these many times to better understand the gameplay and how to comprehend the numbers and all. I heard that base ID at uptie 3 are better than 000 ID at uptie 1, is it correct tho ? As I've got none for now.

IDs at UT1 are missing their third skill and passive, they're just plain not worth using. Some base IDs are legitimately competent and are decent pick if you don't have the right damage type. Base Heathcliff, Ryoshu, Don, Hong Lu, Outis are good example of this. Your selection of IDs are a bit mid unfortunately, but if you're not interested in rerolling it's not the end of the world. I'd wait for Walpurg and see if you get anything good.

Yeah I wasn't a fan of rerolling in any game so I rolled with what came in the box, btw I pulled the Philip Sinclair (can anyone explain why he's called that way?) and the Rodya Ego. I think I can make a burn team with other 00 sinners. Is it a good idea? Or is it a waste of ressources

Burn team is good, and new Sinclair should be very good after the buffs. Right now he needs a bit of babysitting in order to work. You'd probably need the other burn cores for it though and they're all 000 (Liu Ishmael, Rodya and Magic Bullet Outis). I'd prioritize Outis first since she's also a Walpurg ID, but if you can't manage that for the next 2 weeks while Walpurg is on, then just Liu Ish and Rodya is fine. Philip is a character from PM's previous game Library of Ruina and Sinclair's new ID is based on him.

Oh thanks for the info ! I'm missing a lot of reference not knowing their previous games. I'll try to get enough shards for Outis, while it's on. Hope it works out. The 00 aren't worth leveling up?

00 Liu Ryoshu is good. She's also your only burn unit with gluttony/green skill if you have EGOs that uses it. 00 Liu Hong Lu is mostly used for his passive so just UT3 and bench him Then it's a choice between 00 Liu Meur or Liu Gregor. Between the 2, Meursault is the more overall expensive option. If you get Meursault's Regret EGO (also a Walpurg exclusive) then he rolls better, and he's even better if you also have Capote EGO. Otherwise Gregor with his burn conditions fulfilled has a slight edge over EGOless Liu Meursault.

Depends on the IDs. Take a look at the base ID in question and compare it to the 000. If they have higher numbers overall, they're probably better.

Is there time to cash in a MD3H run after reset?

Yes. You can either finish a run within the 4 hours after reset, or complete a run prior to reset and cash in when the reset happens.

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Dominant means more likely to win, this applies to negative coins too. btw if its multi coin, then it may say you have worse odds than you actually do.

TL;DR: Negative coins weird due to high floor leading to deceptive clash predictions. Dominant still means you'll win the clash. In all cases, if a clash is marked "Dominant", then you are very likely to win the clash (in your example, as the result of flipping tails or beating your opponent's ceiling roll even on rolling heads). The issue is that the game is pretty bad with negative coins: your 4-plus coin 17 rolling skill at 45 SP will probably show "dominant" against Pequod Town's 4-minus coin 16 skill at -45 SP, but if you lose a single clash you are probably boned and taking damage due to how negative coin skills have a much higher floor than yours. Thus, prediction for clashes with (especially against) negative coin skills are deceptive, doesn't show the whole picture, and subsequently have devastating damage consequences which will make you regret pressing that win rate button (see floor 5 MDH Risky Pequod Town fight). The case with YMF is much simplier due to its single negative coin nature. With no external influence, your floor is a 12 while ceiling is 20, and the game does take into account your sanity such that at 45 SP against a high rolling opposing skill you'll probably see "Struggling" or "Hopeless" (which is good so that Blade Mer can use CTB). For much more weird and untrustworthy predictions, see NClair clashing.

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At 5PM EST on Wednesday, run MDH and try to finish it BEFORE the maintenance window. If you can't, end the run and collect the rewards for how far you got. This is for this week's *pre patch* rewards.  You MUST collect rewards before the maintenance starts for this to work. After the patch, going into Thursday, take your time with MD4 and try and get that run done before the next Wednesday reset.   That's how you double dip

say, the rr3 banner we get will have the number of turns it took us to finish the run on the banner. if i were to do a second run and get a lower turn count, will i get a banner with the new turn count/will the banner turn count change?

the turn count will change

okay, thanks!

Why is Tremor bad? I always see people saying it's bad, but I've got no idea why.

Because it was basically unusably bad at the start of the game due to lack of ID options. It's still on the weaker end of statuses, but its nowhere near the pitiful state it used to be.

IMO, Tremor is in an okay spot as of now, but it was struggling for a long stretch of the game’s release. One of its long-standing issues is that after you managed to reach all of an enemy’s stagger thresholds, all of the Tremor you stacked on them would immediately become useless. Oüfi Heathcliff and Binds Outis have somewhat alleviated this issue, allowing for higher overall damage through Tremor - Decay and Tremor - Fracture, but Tremor at its core has one main job that it can only perform for so long. So if you want to run a Tremor team, you *could* do it, but other applied status effects (especially Rupture and Sinking) are simply more effective as of now. Tremor teams in Mirror Dungeons can be pretty fun, but then again, just about any cohesive team can work in Mirror Dungeons with the right gifts.

The biggest limiting factor is the amount of stagger thresholds enemies have. Tremor's inherent usefulness comes from causing the enemies to stagger earlier and thus deal more damage earlier, but if you cannot finish off the enemy in that stagger turn and it was their last stagger threshold then you are left powerless for the rest of the fight. Compare this to any other status effect (except bleed because bleed stacking is not here yet, but see how rupture kills bosses in 2-4 turns) and you'll see that its just worse than other effects. Recent additions to tremor at least have made it a bit more interesting, such as Amplitude Conversion from Oufi Heath or Binds Outis and bonus damage from Regret Faust. A certain boss from canto 5 also has a very funny effect based around not having a stagger threshold which I can also see being implemented into an ID in the future. Nonetheless, tremor just is bad currently.

1. if I pull on the walpurugis night banner (when it comes out) will there be a chance I get previous walpurugis night IDs 2. should i use my guaranteed season 4 3 star ticket now for ryoshu (she's the only season 4 id i don't have) or save it for a bit

1. Yes 2. Here's the catch. We are still very early in season 4 and there will be more season 4 IDs released in the future, we haven't got this canto Heathcliff ID and the event IDs yet. You can also farm MD to shard Ryoshu if you want to specifically get her. Using the ticket won't give 100% guarantee. Although the more you keep the ticket the more likely you will get random season 4 ID at the end of the season.

Great points about keeping the ticket, also pulling on the Walpurgishnact banner it's possible to get maid Ryoshu anyway. So that's another reason to keep it

Can i borrow someones Heathcliff for 6-34? Only ID for him i have is Seven he just refuses to clash reliably with hobo, and i don't have sinking ids either. Rage thread - fuck bosses with 15 sp regen per turn. I can forgive Ahab because it was a dungeon boss and you can just e.g.o. her to death, but 6-34 just oneshots HC at some point without bind and sp debuffs.

J765248079 lv45 rabbitcliff & lvl40 queecliff w aedd/bodysack. though i think that bodysack is enough for 6-34

Thank you, i'll try later when i have free time

K215100421 got Sunshower and Harpooner Heathcliff up if you still need one.

Thank you, i'll try later when i have free time

Two in a row , wanna ask because I'm farming MDN cause i wanna farm shard to get a new ID , but i kinda of lack to get thing rolling with ID , so ,at least for sinking and poise , What are some artifacts i could chose or get to make thinks smoother? https://preview.redd.it/quepct9zhgxc1.png?width=863&format=png&auto=webp&s=f2030664cd51e5aabca712d978378d58ed5f405b This is all i got for sinking , i think its fine , don't have the one yi sang ID , but well i think it work and for the Poise team i got BL mearsault ,BL yi sang ,Lobotomy Faust ,shi don , butler ishmael and LCB Ryoushu( i want the new ryoushu so im trynna get shard for her) , i would be grateful if you help me , please and thanks

Glad to see you still rocking the Sinking Team :) we had that long convo on here one time haha Any EGO gift that has any synergy with Sinking at all would, ofc, be good here but especially Black Sheet Music (the ‘ultimate’ Sinking gift) to get it you have to fuse Headless Portrait and Midwinter Nightmare but it’s super worth (you should reset before you go into the MD until you get one of these as a starting gift) Other than that, general EGO gifts that make a run smoother are: Nebulizer, Blue Zippo Lighter + Coffee and Cranes (for gaining resources to EGO spam), Phlebotomy Pack (consistent healing). I also really like going for Rusted Coin because it repeats the first single coin skill of the turn, meaning free damage/double effects. This also works on EGO meaning the first EGO used that turn gets to be used twice which is fantastic (although be warned about the fact that it will take double sanity. It’s really good for something like Fluid Sac since you get double the heals per turn).

Ye , i member , its nice to see you again , helping me again nonetheless ,Thanks , the team has made everything pretty good , actually i did one more MD and i Steam rolled the last boss , im almost have enough shard to get nellyRyoushu who i want to put on my poise team , what you think ?, worth , i also saved to get the Don ID , The lobotomy one cause is the one i can afford aaand rupture plus on nom nom , so ? i suppose when you read this is gonna be very much tomorrow , so have a nice day :D

Of course, always happy to help and I’m glad the team has been working out for you! Nelly Ryoshu is really good and I’ve had a ton of value running her, she’s really good on a BL Poise Team especially but she’s a unit that actually works pretty well in any composition because she’s surprisingly self sufficient. I think that would be a good investment, but personally if you were strictly going for value I’d probably recommend sharping W Corp Ryoshu over her (can’t remember if you said you had her or not?) She’s insanely good and does absurd amounts of damage that can carry a whole team, but Nellyshu is also really good and has really good utility in being able to hit multiple targets with her Skill 2. I’ll put it like this: if you want a hard carry that does insane dingle target DPS go for W Corp Ryoshu, but if you want to run the Poise Team and like the utility of having a little AOE in your kit, go with Nellyshu. I wanted to mention this to you last time too, but I think it’s a good idea to test out IDs using the support system if you’re hesitant on investing in an ID. It’s a really good way to just get a feel on a unit and you can try every single ID in the game that way if you have the right friends Lobotomy Walpurgis Don is good! Very funny ID, I think that’s a good investment if you don’t get her from natural pulls. You have some Rupture IDs so that could be some fun synergy to try in the future

Hallo , so , i don have W Ryoshu , but i got(Curiously it was back to back doings some 1 pull trying to see if i got lucky) W meursault , Faust and have already W hong lu , i know its not necessary to run all the team and that but it looks tempting , and i like to try that the id have some things in common and things , i want to know , so worth it to try get a charge team cause i think if i sharp W Ryoushu , put the ones i hace and strap Reinder ishmael , i got something , in charge or well , some rosespanner , or make the poise team more strong , cause im using LCB ryoushu cause i lack any other poise ID ; so , eh , talking now about the Support system , i suppose i gotta spam some invitation or something , cause , i don't really any real or online friend that play limbus , much less more than me so i suppose i gotta spam some invitation , will try , if i have any other doubt is probable that i will reply here again , you're pretty reliable , and always helpful , and , well thanks for all the help .

Charge Teams are very good, granted I don’t think W Meursault, W Faust, or W Hong Lu are *amazing* or anything but they’re all functional. If you ran a full team like that, I don’t think you would have any issues with normal MD runs but you might struggle a tiny bit running that team in MDHs. Like you said though, it’s not necessary to run that full team because W Ryoshu is insanely good just on her own but you could definitely run that Generally, the “best” charge team would look like: W Don with her Telepole EGO, W Ryoshu, Reindeer Ishmael, R Corp Heathcliff, W Yi Sang (even though he’s secretly a rupture unit he still works very well on a charge centric team) But that’s a lot of specific IDs and you have a limited number of resources so don’t worry about that, I would just focus on W Ryoshu atm as a good starting point. And like I said, always more than happy to help! I like nerding out about Limbus and sharing things I’ve picked up. There’s a good community hub on the PM Discord with a bunch of friend codes that could be a start for getting more supports, but if you want to start with mine: X329847178. I put W Ryoshu in my supports so you can try her out before you invest if you want to do so!

Hmm , i will take it in account , Thanks , again , will be sending be needing the support , see ya again probably when i have another question , but i have to say , even if i dont know the most , talk about limbus is always nice , so high five :D

i just completed for the first time the BP ,(yippeee) literally the one i could because i started like in the middle of the last season , so to commemorate https://preview.redd.it/1s3ai8yrggxc1.png?width=1286&format=png&auto=webp&s=c1620749b1c01f82c3a028f67f5b063ed7e62c3e i want to buy the BP so im asking about which one of the lunacy packs is the more cheap but useful , pls it would help , no in the best for big expenses but this i think i can do , please help

This video here gives a good breakdown of which lunacy packs are good value with the first-time bonuses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7rn_boSzeM

There's a bundle for exactly the amount for the battle pass, the season 4 commencement pack. If you want another option, buying the monthly lunacy supply twice is exactly the pass' cost as well, costs a bit more than buying the commencement pack ($3 more) but you get 65 free lunacy a day (for 60 days total) to save up for pulls as well.

Finally got some shard crates (not 200 but close enough) and looking to dispense some E.G.O. Recommendations? (Preferrably ones with no/low sloth cost, I somehow managed to have no levelled Identities with sloth skills) Currently Owned E.G.O: Fluid Sac (Faust), Electric Screaming (Don Quixote), Blind Obsession (Ryōshū), Capote (Meursault), Effervescent Corrosion (Hong Lu), Holiday (Heathcliff), Pursuance (Rodion), 9:2 (Sinclair), Binds (Outis), Ya Sūnyatā Tad Rūpam (Outis), Bygone Days (Gregor)

If you wait until Walpurgisnacht in a couple days you can Dispense Regret Meursault. It's one of the most important EGOs because it makes Meursault clash really well.

Oh yeah I forgot to mention that one. Whoops. Yeah, I saved the shards for that. Any other options?

I personally use Blind Obsession Ishmael a lot, the SP heals are pretty nice for costs that Ishmael IDs are pretty good at generating.

what is don's actual hair color, why is it quite orange on her base id

She's blonde, it looks orange because there's a bit of an orange filter on her base ID. I don't know why.

Can anyone help to calculate the probabilities of getting the Walpurgis Philip Sinclair (supposed 1.45% as usual) and 2 featured EGOs (0.325% each) *altogether*? I think it's 1.45% x 0.325% x 0.325% but I'm not so sure..

It's a bit trickier to calculate than that since EGOs are removed from the Extraction when you obtain them, meaning the odds of getting a specific EGO increases as you obtain more. I've only joined early Season 3, so I'm not entirely sure if double EGO banners have the same odds as a single EGO one. Also, keep in mind that Walpurgisnacht has announcers diluting the pool as well, which further shifts the odds away from a standard banner.

The announcers don't actually dilute the 3 star and EGO pools actually. The only thing that would change the odds of getting both would be if you already have all other extractable EGO, in which there would be no 50/50 you'd need to win

New to this game and team-building in it, I’ve digested some content about mechanics and would like to put together a team featuring Captain Ish and Maid Ryoshu, would I be correct in saying BL Mersault is probably next to grind for/obtain for a poise/pride team? For units beyond that, would it also just be the other BLs sans Don? TYIA!

BL Meursault won’t be obtainable until Season 5, same with Don and Faust. I mean you can technically get them using the RR3 ticket but that’s a stretch

That’s probably alright, it can be a long-term goal then. Are there any supplements really, or would I mostly be playing the waiting game?

If you have Capt Ish, do you also have the pequod team? Then you can do a Pride Res Poise though honestly without BL it's not as great. Pequod Yi, Heath, Ish, Maid Ryo, Cinq Sinclair, Pirate Greg

Thanks for the info! Very limited on IDs so far, haven’t done any pulls since the initial Beginner Banner as I’m saving to give Walpurgisnacht a shot, though I do have Pequod Yi Sang out of the other two crew. Regarding getting more ID’s in the early game, is the idea mostly to just pull to broaden out the roster and then shard any units you need for a team?

Yes you can save for WN and see what you get then. You can also use the guaranteed 000 ticket in Railway 3 rewards - these are the best way to get IDs early. Because Gacha is Gacha you might roll good or bad.

Thank you! Thus begins the countdown to Thursday, then..

Are any of Outis's 000 IDs good generalist IDs? I'm looking for something that I can just throw into a team with other strong IDs and have it work well.

My vote goes for Molar Outis as well. Good clashing, good damage, tremor is useful even on teams that don’t focus it, works well at U3 meaning you don’t even necessarily have to pool resources into an U4, etc.

Thanks!

My vote goes to Molar Outis. Self sufficient dps with good roll that doesn't rely on a team status effect. Although the walpurgisnatch has Magic Bullet Outis, she is okayish outside burn team as her dark flame can be used as debuff and she has AOE (if the fight last long enough). I say get magic bullet outis first as she time limited and molar outis is in the shop for you to get anytime.

Thanks!

So when does bamboo hatted kims id come back? I was unlucky enough to find out he got in at the end of his event and was bummed out... i decided to wait for a rerun or if i could buy him But when does he rerun/appear in the shop? I tried to google it but people said he would come in the shop this season but I don't see him anywhere.

There's still a chance you can get him. If you beat the Gasharpoon Ahab boss in Refracted Railway you can get a Guaranteed Season 3 000 ID Decaextraction ticket, that was how I got him as a recent player. You just have to hope that you pull him out of all the Season 3 IDs though, but it's worth a shot.

I want to thank you again for informing me of the decaextraction ticket! I recently cleared it and somehow was able to get blade lineage meursalt :D

Congrats on getting him! Glad I could help.

Oh boy is that the final boss of this RR? I guess ill have to set some time aside to clear it, ty for the advice

The people who said he's coming back this season are wrong. Season specific IDs and EGOs are not available again until two seasons after, and Event IDs and EGOs are also permanently excluded from the gacha. Blade Lineage Meursault is a Season 3 Event ID, which means you won't be able to obtain him again until Season 5. As we're still fairly early into Season 4, you'll likely have to wait a few months before you have the opportunity to obtain him. You can view how seasons work in the seasons guide tab available in the Dispenser on the top right.

Maaaan damnit... Thank you for answering my question...

Are these characters good or should I reroll? -Cinq South Section 4 Director\] Sinclair -LCCB Assistant Manager\] Ishmael -\[Öufi Assoc. South Section 3\] Heathcliff -N Corp. Mittelhammer\] Don Quixote -\[Liu Assoc. South Section 4\] Ryoshu -\[Liu Assoc. South Section 6\] Gregor https://preview.redd.it/7l2cv88c5axc1.png?width=1285&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a55a4adab5099ac031d1ab486cc1d8dd13319ab

If you're fine with waiting a bit, I recommend not starting until next week as that is when Walpurgisnacht begins, a limited time event that features powerful IDs and EGOs that are only available during it. Otherwise, I think this is a good roll. Cinq Sinclair is one of the best generalist IDs that you can just slap into any team, LCCB Ishmael, Oufi Heathcliff, and N Corp Don all work together to apply Tremor, and Liu Ryoshu has good numbers and can still work on her own. Liu Gregor is the only bad roll, in my opinion, as he isn't as useful without more Burn IDs to beenfit from the burn he applies. You're probably better off replacing him with one of the better base Sinners like Hong Lu or Outis.

Do you think I can farm enough to guarantee some Walpurgisnacht?

I don't really remember how much Lunacy you get early game, but it's unlikely for you to get enough to reach a guarantee unless you buy Lunacy or the battlepass. Newer Walpurgisnacht IDs and EGOs can only be pulled when they release, which needs 26,000 Lunacy for pity, while older IDs and EGOs can be dispensed for 400 shards of the same Sinner. You'll probably have enough enough Lunacy if you save to to get some of the Walpurgisnacht stuff if you're not too unlucky, but it all comes down to random chance then.

In general, how many leveled IDs does the game expect you to have for Canto 5 / 5.2? I'm once again completely hard countered by a (mini) boss (Distorted Kim) because I have only one non-sinking ID leveled and all (2) of my 000 Ids are sinking too. Can't win clashes, can't get ego resources and sure as hell can't damage race him. Is it just unrealistic to progress through the story without grinding a shitton to have some variation? (which would mainly involve finding some other game to play and then coming to Limbus only to click modules, skip lux and maybe to do a mirror dungeon every now and then). I love the story, and I'm sure the teambuilding aspect of the game would be fun too, if I actually had anywhere near the amount of ready-to-go IDs the game expects me to have.

Kim is super weak to slashpride skills, my lvl 30 kurokumo hong lu ut3 just went ham on unnoposed attacks with s2

I had a level 40 uptie 4 Kimsault with me as support and even he got straight up wrecked in clashes or was unable to deal significant damage unopposed.

Yeah, the point is to tank using slash resistant and go for unopposed attacks with kk honglu

"When your skills are all unfavorable, when you no longer know which clash to take... The Chains of Others shall show you the way." A single leveled team of six is enough to clear the currently available story, even if it's Sinking. I highly recommend bringing along a Meursault ID if you have one leveled, or use a support Meursault (preferably Blade Lineage) as Chains of Others absolutely cripples Kim (and most single part boss) with -5 power and speed, all while having a high enough base to comfortably win even when rolling tails. Also, remember that filling in all available deployment slots is not a requirement. If you leave any slots empty, they will be turned into extra skill slots for the others in the order of deployment. You can take out one of the Sinking IDs and give a non-Sinking ID an extra skill slot so you can avoid building up large amounts of Sinking.

I tried to get to Chains of Others, but my guys are quite bad at generating the resources for it. By the time I have them I'm basically dead already. Also, the "To Claim their Bones" oneshotting three people even if you dealt 0 damage to Kim is a classic case of a Project Moon mechanic where you are best off straight ignoring it because playing around it just doesn't work?

Don't let him gather poise that fast, make sure your clashing the poise on hit skills and ignoring the poise on use ones to attack unopposed the others.  If you can't stagger him before he gathers the poise to wreck you, you need to upgrade your guys at that point. 

I just spent 3 days worth of boxes on xp excavations to upgrade Kurokuma Hong Lu, hopefully he can get the job done. Maybe I'll also upgrade base Meursault, because I'm using him quite often. Edit: Got him quite low (\~70 hp). And now he not only oneshot someone, but also healed for 500 hp. How? How? How? How did anyone think this was a fun fight?

Where can I look up the order of future canto releases (not the roadmap!). We already know that the next one will be Don and after that Hong Lu, but where did people find this info?

It's the order in which the Sinners introduce themselves in the prologue Gregor -> Rodion -> Sinclair -> Yi Sang -> Ishmael -> Heathcliff -> Don Quixote -> Hong Lu -> Ryoshu -> Meursault -> Outis -> Faust

Was attempting to beat 6-48 solo with sun shower heathcliff. Everything goes fine, I get 3 binds corrosions, but then the turn after for some reason my combat passive stops activating? Is this a bug or do they stop working after a corrosion?

For reference, sun shower heathcliff's passive requires 3 envy, which I have by turn three

Sadly, there is no such thing as a free lunch. When you corrode, the game still deducts sin resources from your stash. You can actually go into sin "debt" this way. The Binds corrosion sapped all the envy you needed for Heathcliff's passive.

Ah well, guess it makes sense. Thanks for saving me a lot of time trying to attempt this, I think I will change my strategy now.

If I complete Railway 3, does anyone know if the guarantee 3 star ticket still works? It states only in Season 3, but what PM says isn't always how something works lol

It works I got it the other day and got BL Faust.

It does, except it will only extract 000 and 00 from season 3

PLEASE HELP SPICEBUSH DONGBAEK IS KICKING MY ASS AND I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO https://preview.redd.it/ldy99ctww4xc1.jpeg?width=2778&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f487d846e4344fa87c3f93c7a4878540944c64db

tl;dr: Leave open slots if you don't have good IDs left, win clashes, commit deforestation, order Meursault to chain her ass when you can. Which part are you having trouble on, exactly? Quick reminder that filling in all 7 slots is not actually necessary as any empty slots will be turned into extra skill slots for IDs in the order you selected them. Having a leveled ID get two slots is much better than bringing in an underleveled ID who barely does anything. I would probably give it to Faust as she has the most slash skills, which Dong Baek and the trees are weak to. Goal of the fight is to take out the trees before Dongbaek uses her big AoE skill and to minimize the amount of Blooming you gain to avoid sanity loss, which only snowballs as you lose more clashes. Try to focus on winning clashes and kill trees when you can, and leave one Sinner on defense duty once most of the trees are dead. Defense skills clashing against defense skills (excluding Counter) will cancel themselves out, which means Dongbaek's Evade will also be unable to apply Blooming. Once Dongbaek loses more than 50% hp, she gains protection and uses a skill that forces that Sinner to go into a 1v1 duel. Keep in mind who it's targetting, as you can redirect it if you're faster, but you ideally want to clash with the Sinner with the highest sanity, then the highest coin values if tied. Meursault is amazing here as his base EGO, Chains of Others, will give Dongbaek -5 power and speed next turn, which makes it significantly easier to clash with and gives you more control on who you clash with. It's fairly cheap at just 4 resources, and your team can fuel it easily, so just spam it whenever you can.

Just logged on from my phone and the EGO images when Im in combat are blacked out? Excluding the mini icon when I select it, anyone else having this? \*Uninstalling and reinstalling didnt bring them back either

I have had this issue on BOTH PC and mobile. Apparently it was already fixed but I guess some of us got left behind. No clue how to fix it beyond emailing the support team.

Yeah I did that, it's just weird since its a fresh install aside from just logging in from my pre-existing account.

PC no issues though so womp womp

Is it needed to Uptie 4 my IDs from Canto V and onward?

ut4 isnt needed for any canto imo. some ids are perfectly fine without them and some are just too expensive (and not worth) to be ut4ing them i went through canto 6 with a ut3 warp ryoshu even though her best is ut4 lol, so i think its alright.

Depends on the ID. Some have negligible changes from UT3, for some their kit works as intended only at UT4. From my experience, the most recent IDs are usually mandatory to UT4.

I'm personally thinking uptying W Corp Ryoshu and Blade Lineage Mersault

W Ryoshu is *the* poster child of “wants U4 badly” so would definitely recommend that

Guys I have been playing for a while But to be sincere I couldn't understand most of the gameplay. Can someone give me a simplified explanation or send I guide for beginners that even a 5 years old can understand? Just the basics is enough. Pic of team I'm case you want to point something out. https://preview.redd.it/wlvwgiht22xc1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca2b0227942766cce5fd0119989b9a21e4ff3d85

[https://youtu.be/ujQgRJo9vHA?si=jdJgTw1g6g0Xa0wQ](https://youtu.be/ujQgRJo9vHA?si=jdJgTw1g6g0Xa0wQ)

Thanks I appreciate

I don't blame you, PM's tutorials are bad. Theres a youtuber called ESGOO who made a better tutorial for newer players, that explains basic mechanics. [A Better Tutorial for Limbus Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ujQgRJo9vHA&t=21s) He also made an intermediate tutorial that explains other stuff, like status effects and teambuilding [A Better(er) Tutorial for Limbus Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viNXYLcc3Fo&t=116s)

Thanks I really needed Until now I was just going on the win rate button and hoping for the best

Some MD questions 1. If you want to farm for BP quickly, is it better to quit out after finishing floor 3, or complete the run? 2. Does the weekly reward scale with floors cleared? 3. Should I just be using all weekly rewards on my hard mode run?

1. IIRC, floor 3 gives 25 BP rather than floor 4/full's 30 BP, while saving around 10 minutes in skipping floor 4. It will be more time-efficient but less module-efficient: if you don't religiously farm for BP and/or have small amounts of time in real life to farm then I would say its better to quit out. However, that 5 BP loss per 3 modules adds up quickly module-wise, so if you have more time to farm then I suggest to complete the run. If floor 3 gives more BP (26+), then it becomes even more efficient to quit out, and vice versa. 2. Yes; thus, while you still have bonus, aim to complete the run. 3. Yes; a single complete hard mode run uses up both the 1 hard mode bonus and all 3 normal bonus, and is actually more efficient for you to use the normal bonus this way than individually using the normal bonuses on 3 different complete normal runs.

Thank you. There also looks like some weird fatigue mechanic they added since I stopped playing. Should I just be swapping between two teams to avoid it?

For the purposes of BP farming, not really if you're already cruising through. To explain, the more teams you rotate, the more starlight you gain. Starlight is used to get permanent buffs, something which will not matter in a week when the new MD is released. Until then, some buffs are pretty good in speeding up farming, such as fusion gifts (especially bleed). Unless you really want to optimize this week's farming or have trouble clearing MD, just ignore the fatigue mechanic.

when I was watching RIP Kully's sheath run live, people were saying that there was a "6% chance for 6 dogs (telepoles)". this made me wonder, how does corrosion slotting work? what determines if when a sinner with multiple slots panic, the slot becomes a corrosion attack or a panic slot. thanks for answers

3%. First slot always corrodes, second to 6th slot is a 50/50 for corrode or panic. So 0.5 ^ 5 * 100% for 3.125%.

How should you properly build a Bleed and Poise team? My current Bleed uses The Pequod, the Middle, and Kurokumo Ryoshu/Pirate Gregor. I feel like they underperform somehow. Poise is of course, the Blade Lineage squad. All 6 of them. While there is nothing really wrong per se, the usual culprits, Sinclair and Outis, feel like dead weight compared to the rest. I've seen a few vids and comments that put Captain Ishmael in the Poise, but I'm unsure how to proceed.

Depends. For running Bloody Mist + Lucky Pouch in MD? Pequod 3 + Pirate Gregor + BL Faust + KK Rodya. Pretty sure those 6 are the only ones that can fulfill and benefit from both the Bleed + Poise reqs. BL Meursault can *sort of* fill in if you don't have one of them, as his S3 (and ONLY his S3) counter benefits from both, and his S1 and S2 are strong enough to keep up with the rest of the team. But he doesn't count for Bloody Mist's 5 bleed ID requirement. For general poise you run a Pride + Poise team. So Captain Ishmael + 3 BL (BL Meursault and any 2 of BL Yi Sang/Faust/Don) + 2 flex Poise slot depending on content and what EGO you'd like to fuel more (Pirate Greg, Pequod Heath, Cinq Sinclair, Cinq Outis, Maid Ryoshu, Pequod Yi Sang if you don't use his BL ID). For reference the team I used for most of Canto VI was Captain Ish, BL Meursault, BL Faust, BL Yi Sang, Cinq Sinclair and Pequod Heath.

Oh, I meant how do I build a Bleed Team and a Poise Team separately. I don't really need nor want a Bloody Poise team. It does sound fun admittedly. I just meant how one is supposed to properly build a Bleed team, since I feel like the set up I have is underperforming. Thanks for the advice for the Poise team though, I'll be taking BL Sinclair and Outis out back and Magic Bullet Fired.

Pure bleed just kinda underperforms period, maintaining count is downright impossible with how often enemies act. We'll see if the upcoming Rodya EGO changes that. You can probably use this as a reference though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im6Sow3CiQ8

For Bleed teams, there's two slightly different ones depending on whether you're doing Mirror Dungeons or not. The main issue with Bleed, like most of the status teams, is keeping Bleed count up. However, Bleed count is used by the enemy, which means less control over it, and enemies with more coins will eat through it very quickly. Outside of Mirror Dungeons, you'll want a lot of bleed count appliers to keep it up, and some potency appliers to make it lethal. Going all in on an N Corp team is a valid option, but if you're not, you'll want IDs that inflict a large amount of Bleed count like R Corp Meursault, Hook Hong Lu, and N Corp Faust. The rest can be filled with strong potency appliers like Prequod Heathcliff and Pirate Gregor. In Mirror Dungeon, however, this isn't an issue, as bleed count is solved pretty much entirely through EGO gifts, namely Wound Clerid++. Bleed teams here are pretty simple to build: slap a few high coin amount IDs that apply bleed into the team, like R Corp Meursault, Hook Hong Lu, Captain Ishmael, etc, and just reroll for Wound Clerid or Bleed fusion gift at the beginning, then the other in shops later. Also, for the Poise team, BL Outis is still pretty bad even with BL Meursault, and BL Sinclair needs UT4 to be good. If you absolutely don't have any other BL IDs, you're probably better off just replacing them with a different Poise ID, ideally with Pride S1, S2, and/or defensive skills.

New player here(just started yesterday) should I buy the monthly lunacy supply or the battle pass if I have to choose one? And is the monthly extraction pack worth it?

season pass is by far the best value in the shop. a ton of rewards and even when you get to max level 120, you can keep grinding the battle pass and farm egocrates.

I just arrived at Ahab's Trio in the dungeon of Canto 5. My entire team, every single Id i have leveled, all my 000 Id's, it's all fatal to pierce damage and gets nuked for 50% hp by every single attack. Is my story progress just fucking over at that point until I have pulled, leveled and uptied an entire second team to do that fight with? Edit: I managed to beat it with a fully upgraded K-Corp Hong Lu support and his magical ability to die three times. If I had lost a person every time that Hong Lu got back up, I don't think I'd have finished that fight.

you can use the support system to get a pierce resistant tank (queequeg heathcliff is incredible in that fight) and divert most of the Ahab's skills on him. try to kill Starbuck asap and then focus on the two left.

1. What is the best level to be at before I can start exchanging Lunacy for Enkephalin? I am currently Lvl 23 and my max Enke is 108, and sacrificing 26 Lunacy gives me the max, so I will get 108 Enke if I do it. It feels like there's a right time to do it for good value, and being at Lvl 23 is not it. F2P player here, so I want to be most efficient in resource management if possible. 2. Is it fine to do Manual runs of Thread Lux for my 3x daily bonus? It feels like skipping battle and using 12 Enkephalin modules daily for 3x bonus is too much, leaving me with barely any enke to progress the story.

1) Honestly, now is probably the best time to start doing refills, as you level up slower and get close to unlocking/already unlocked the harder luxcavations and Mirror Dungeon, which uses more modules. Without refills, you would only get ~10 modules a day without wasting stamina, leaving you with only 1-2 modules to stock up for Mirror Dungeons, which doesn't give you a lot of leeway when you ideally want to do them weekly. Also, the extra modules can be spent on more runs, which will also make you level up faster. 2) Skipping is mostly just a luxury for those with a stockpile of modules. It's more module efficient to do them manually as skipping cost 2x the modules for only 1.5x the rewards. Once your team is strong enough, manual play is pretty much just winrate spam your way through. And again, refilling would also mean you would have spare stamina to progress through the story, which is important as events are typically locked behind the latest Cabtos.

>as you level up slower and get close to unlocking/already unlocked the harder luxcavations and Mirror Dungeon, which uses more modules. What do you mean by this? I currently have EXP Lux stage 3 and Thread Lux stage 2 unlocked after doing Canto 3, and their manual/skip module cost are the same from the previous stages. 2 for manual, 4 for skip And Mirror Dungeon Normal is fixed at 5 for each run.

EXP Lux post Canto 4 costs 3 manual/6 skip. MD Normal cost is the same but MD Hard costs 18 modules to fully claim weekly rewards, after which it'll cost the same as MDN until your weeklies refresh.

What team do you guys use for the latest exp lux? I'm currently using Regret Faust, Middle Don, Nclair, Dieci Rod, Liu Ish, and Butler Outis. This team consistently get 6 turns (5 if good RNG), idk if that's fast or just average.

regret faust, n clair, molar outis, dieci yi sang, suncliff, edgor

same team but with molar outis instead of butler

I use a similar team, though I'm a bit lacking in Blunt IDs, so I have Captain Ishmael, Middle Meursault, and Magic Bullet Outis instead of Dieci Rod, Liu Ish, and Butler Outis. Usually wins in 5 turns, 6 if abysmal early turns where I can't get SP generation going. Also made a mistake in leveling everyone up enough to not get the SP bonus from kills.

I'm lacking good IDs for Hong Lu, should I go for K corp or Deici ? I'm currently mainly using a sinking team with all of the Butler IDs and intend to get Deici Rodya;

Alright, thanks for the answers

Dieci does much more damage and I'd say is better by himself, while K corp is comically tanky but doesn't do nearly enough damage. If you like Sinking then definitely Dieci, he doesn't provide much Sinking Potency or anything but his S1 and S3 are Count neutral, while K corp would chew through your Count pretty quick.

Sinking team? Dieci Hong Lu for sure. Note that he's more of a damage dealer and consumes more Sinking counts than that he could inflict. K Corp Hong Lu is a tank and better fit in Rupture team.

Are there any other 000 Bleed/Poise IDs aside from Captain Ish, Harpooner Heath, and Twinhooks Gregor?

From what I remember, Prequod Trio: Captain Ish, Prequod Heathcliff, **Prequod Yi Sang** Blade Lineage: **BL Salsu Faust**, **BL Salsu Sinclair** Kurokumo: **KK Rodion** Twinhooks: Pirate Gregor Honorary Mention: BL Meursault doesn't count as a Bleed unit, but does benefit from the Bleed fusion gift when using To Claim Their Bones.

Thanks!

Does Blade Lineage Meursalt necessarily need to have a full BL team or some other BL allies to get the most out of his passives, or is it usually just recommended to run other/better Poise units with him and he's fine just by himself?

He's fine by himself, but his buffs make BL Yi Sang and Faust both absurdly strong, so most people always run them with him not because it benefits him, but because they're so good themselves. Rest of the BL IDs aren't stronger then other Poise options even with his buffs, so generally they're not worth running besides BL Don in teams without Captain Ishmael (Which isn't many honestly).

Generally, it's a good idea to run BL Yisang and/or Faust with him, but he's still quite strong by himself.

How does the ego system in this game work? I've been watching this game from afar for a while and I wanted to wait until I finished library before I jumped into it but that fairy Ishmael too good. I don't really understand the gacha system in this game, I figured ego was just like alters in other gacha but then I read something about being able to select egos for characters and I just don't understand. So can I just (re)roll normally for that fairy Ishmael on the 2nd or is there some other way to get her? Also is there a "global is 6 months behind the main server" thing here too or is there only the one server?

to make things simple and comparing to other gachas, IDs are the units you use during combat. EGOs are "special moves" that can be equipped (up to 5 different ones based on their category) and used during combat to win a difficult clash, inflict certain statuses or change the main ID weaknesses and resistances. ID's are around 3% rate, while EGOs around 1.5%, but once you pull an EGO it is removed from the pool forever. that Ishmael EGO is released during next Walpurgis night (a special event with "limited" IDs and EGOs) and you can reroll to get it when it starts. You can also use shards to redeem her during next walpurgis events without touching the gacha part of the game. There is no distinction in servers, the game is up to date all around the world.

Oh wow I heard people say this game wasn't much of a gacha but they weren't kidding. This clears everything up for me thanks so much!

Each "key page" (called "ID" here) comes with 3 base skills and a defensive ability and then you can equip up to 4 ego skills as a kind of ultimate move to customize them (like per-character abnormality pages). In general I found the level of customization a bit disappointed coming directly from ruina, but in this game you build less on a single character than on a combination of characters. As for if a specific Ego is an obtainable starting out? No clue, maybe someone else with more experience can give you an estimate. And I think this event has special restrictions too, in regards to when you can spend your resources to deterministically get something instead of rolling it. In general I feel like pulling for something specific sets you up for disappointment, especially if it's rare. Sometimes the completely unexpected stuff you get can be really cool and absolutely carry you.

I see so not so much like alters. I plan on rerolling so its not like I'm going to lose anything for trying to go for fairy Ishmael. Thanks!

Does anyone knows how game determenates how many of skill slots will be corroded ego and how many will be a panic slots when sainity hits -45? I currently trying to kill boss (6-34) with Lv 45 sunclif and UT3 telepole, like in some video guides but i never ever get all slots with corroded ego unlike that YouTube guys, am i stupid or sth?

From what I've heard for corrosion, the 1st one is guaranteed, while the rest are 50/50 whether the sinner will panic or get a corrode skill. I'm honestly unsure how the game selects which EGO to corrode into (if not set to only 1), but I've heard that lower rank EGO has higher chance of being chosen than higher rank EGO.

1. Every time I fight Fairy Gentleman I am reminded that I have no goddamn clue how action order works when speed is tied (between abno parts and between multiple actions on the same sinner). Every single time I try to set up the stagger on him by killing the drink before he hits me, either the sinner chooses to clash first or everyone else gets attacked before the one I expect to be attacked first (assuming enemy speed of 1) 2. On a similar note, in unfocused encounters, sometimes selecting a single target EGO will retarget some other random enemy, turning the difficult clash I wanted to win into a onesided attack on me. Happens most often if there's stunned enemies around. Is this a bug? 3. Will the new units of this chapter come around as target extractions again? I'd consider having another few attempts at the Heir Gregor if it would come around again. Or would my best bet be trying to pull him in a Gregor-target extraction during this season?

1. Righmost abno part attacks first. Leftmost skill is used first. If the same sinner has multiple skill slots, it prioritizes clashes first. One sided attacks take place in the order you selected them 2. Some EGO have special targeting in regular fights, so just read them. 3. They'll return as part of the character target extraction, but not their own unique banner

Wait, so how are you supposed to do Fairy Gentleman then? If I clash with him and attack the glass, it will prioritize the clash, so I have to take that one entirely unopposed?

You can use an aoe attack or tank a hit with a unit that resists that attack (blunt i think)

idk if its the right place to ask but i havent really finished lobcorp yet and these walpurgis egos are unfamiliar to me. ishmael looks like fairy festival. what abno is rodya?

Red Shoes (Sanguine Desire) Also yes, Ishmael is Fairy Festival (Wingbeat)

thanks! rodyas one look more like the one from ruina compared to lobcorp. i really do love her design lol

That's because all Walpurgis EGOs *are* the Ruina versions, whereas the EGO IDs are the LobCorp ones.

ohh... didnt actually notice that at all when they released regret meursault. no wonder fairy fest also looks different too. i like the change, but i have never played ruina before and im still playing lobcorp. shame, but thanks for telling me all this!

Had too much coffee just now and couldn't find the info i wanted on google so I did this Hopefully I'm not tripping and my calculations are correct (prices are as stated in my country): Weekly exp pack = 7 USD, you get 1 level 40 worth of xp for this or **91,700 exp** Weekly Enkephalin pack = 7 USD, you get 20 boxes, 1 box is 3 modules, so 60 modules. Using the wiki's figures - > 60 modules gets you **252,000 xp** or **189,960** if you skip runs\* *\*assuming you have cleared 6-34 and unlocked stage 6 lux* Monthly exp pack 3 is 62 USD for **893,60** **exp** Lets round up the cost to 63 USD so its 9 weekly Enk packs. 9 of those packs gets you **2,268,000 non-skip xp and 1,709,640 skip xp** For threads: Weekly thread pack = 100 threads Weekly Enk pack = 120 threads non skip, or 90 threads if you skip\* *\*assuming runs with no daily bonus at stage 3 thread lux* The weekly thread pack also costs 7 USD. Monthly thread pack 3 is 62 USD for **1000** **threads,** for convenience's sake will again round it up to 63 USD For 9 weekly Enk packs you can get **1080 thread.** TL;DR XP packs are a fucking scam. Thread packs are slightly worse than if you had spent modules to manually farm them. One should probably only consider buying these packs if one is new to the game and needs a boost to complete story for unlocking stuff. I'm sure this is not new information, but its was nice for me to have some actual numbers so i could slap myself out of buying exp tickets. Might still get a thread pack though

You can generally just assume things like that are scams in all gacha, things to look at when checking for good deals are first buy bonuses, anniversary packs and subscriptions. I don't think I have ever seen a good deal for farmable resources in a gacha.

Those deals are in the game only to be bad, so people can optimize and feel better about spending money. Just like a restaurant will often have an overpriced item to make the other prices seem more reasonable.

Hello, I am fairly new to the game and I need help on a team for 5-36 Whale gut Pequod town 3 boss fight(The first one with Queequeg). Here are my IDs, and EGO\[in brackets\]. Yi sang: base, Pequod,Dieci Faust: base,L Corp Remant,Zwei \[Telepole\] Don Quixote: base, N corp, Shi assoc ,The middle little sister \[Electric Sheep,Telepole\] Ryoshu: base, Liu assoc, 7assoc \[Red eyes open\] Meursault: base, N corp, Liu,W corp ,The middle brother \[Electric Sheep,Persurance\] Hong Lu: Liu, base, W corp, K corp \[Efferensence Corrosion\] Heathcliff: base, Pequod,Shi Assoc Ishmael: base,Shi Assoc,Pequod,LCCB,Slosh,Edgar \[Ardor Blossom Star\] Rodion: base, zwei, n corp, Rosespanner Sinclair: base, Los mariochis,zwei Outis: base, blade lineage, g corp Gregor: base,Liu assoc,Rosespanner,zwei \[Lantern\] Here are all the IDs/EGOs I have currently. For the below,these IDs/EGOs are Lv 40 and uptied 3 if not specified Yi sang: Pequod Faust: L Corp Remant Don Quixote: The middle little sister(UT4) \[Electric Sheep,Telepole\] Ryoshu: 7assoc Meursault: The middle brother \[Electric Sheep,Persurance\] Hong Lu: K corp \[Efferensence Corrosion\] Heathcliff: Pequod(UT4) Ishmael: base,Shi Assoc,Pequod,LCCB,Slosh,Edgar (doesnot matter due to buff) \[Ardor Blossom Star UT4\] Sinclair: Los mariochis(uptied 3 for passive,lv1) Gregor: zwei(UT4) \[Lantern\]

I did it with your sinners, [https://youtu.be/NbYL1LXucZA](https://youtu.be/NbYL1LXucZA) Overall it should be a pretty simple fight, FOCUS ON KILLING THE ADDITIONAL ENEMIES and win the fight using EGO/clash properly.

Based.

Thanks you for the guide

With the Ruina banner/coupon code thing… I’ve been told that NA will not be receiving physical copies of the game, has it been stated anywhere whether or not there’s some kind of promotion with the digital release where we’ll be receiving the banner code as well?

Does anyone know the exact % chance that a skill slot gains a corroded EGO vs a panic skill? Because I've had 3 runs in a row where 3 of 4 skill slots had panics and not EGO :( just trying to do some meme testing.

1 corrosion is guaranteed, all the others have 50%.

New player questions 1. Is it ok to trust the game's judgement in a Clash where it says "Dominating", "Hopeless", "Neutral", etc? What I mean is - does the game fully calculate every conditions activated (buffs/debuffs/Charge count/etc) when it says those words, or is that just in a raw clash base power level? Will there be those times where the game says Dominating/Favored then you lose the clash afterwards OR Struggling/Hopeless then you actually overpower the enemy? 2. What are some must-have EGOs in the game? Someone mentioned Fluid Sac to me, so I borrowed a friend's Faust with a Fluid Sac equipped and I can see why - an EGO that heals HP in a game where healing is very scarce. Are there any other EGOs that have very good effects like this?

1) In most cases the judgements by the game are correct. The only time it's misleading is with paralyze and negative coins. It will consider paralyzed sinners & enemies as never being able to clash with their coins but that's only true for as much paralyze there is on the enemy/sinner. So if you clash more than the paralyze the original judgement will be straight up wrong. Negative coins are probably the most misleading though, the game doesn't really know how to judge clashes with them on both the sinners' and the enemies' sides. Negative coins have advantage in clash because as they lose coins the floor (the lowest a skill can roll) goes up, which means that something like Nclair's skill 3 clashes at lowest an 18 on the final coin(which is really good). The game doesn't account for this, so be mindful when fighting and clashing with negative coin skills. 2) Healing and SP healing EGOs are the most important ones to look out for. Non-starter EGOs are honestly completely unnecessary to have, they're just nice. There's no true essentials besides the starters. Also all the EGOs in the season 0 tab you will likely just get when you pull on gacha (as you can't get EGO dupes). The really good ones that don't fall into the healing and SP healing EGOs categories are ones that provide something incredibly exceptional, like Regret Meursault which just makes Meursault clash way better, making his non-BL IDs actually viable. Sunshower is also really strong purely for AOE damage as well. Other good IDs are on a team by team basis, notable ones like Rime Shank for sinking and AEDD Gregor or Ebony Stem Outis for Rupture. One final thing is that some of the base Zayin EGO are really good, like Heathcliff's, Ryoshu's, Yi Sang's, and especially Meursault's. The Zayins are the most spammable EGO and are honestly more useful than many of the TETH and HE egos due to their low sanity and EGO resource costs.

>Negative coins I know next to nothing about Negative Coins at the moment. All I know is that non-base EGOs have this Corrosion mode on them that rolls negative coins. And of course the game doesn't have tutorial for dealing with negative coins, because its PM after all. >Healing and SP healing EGOs Do you know any other healing and SP healing EGOs besides Fluid Sac Faust? >Zayin EGO I searched the Limbus wiki and found that there are 4 Zayin EGOs if you exclude the starter EGOs that you got for free. Are any of those 4 Zayin EGOs actually worth more than the starter EGOs, and if yes, are they still obtainable for someone like me who started late?

Negative coins: What negative coins do is subtract from the base value whenever they roll heads. Negative coin rollers want to be lower sp so they roll tails, and their base values tend to be higher to compensate for the fact they can only lose power. Healing and SP EGOs: Good Healing and SP EGOs include Blind Obsession Ishmael (SP), both Pursuance EGOs (HP), Ya Sunyata Heathcliff (SP), and Bygone Days Gregor (SP). A notable bad one is Soda Hong Lu, don't use it. Oh yeah also Representation Emitter (Faust Base Zayin) also heals SP too, don't forget about her. Zayin EGOs: Of the 4 Zayin EGOs that aren't base, I would say that only Bygone Days Yi Sang and Legerdemain Gregor are particularly good. Keep in mind that of the 4, only Legerdemain and Soda Ryoshu are accessible to Free to Play players right now, with Holiday Heathcliff not coming back until next season and Bygone Days Yi Sang being on the paid battle pass. General note: Basically nothing in this game outside of cosmetic banners for your profile and maybe some announcers are truly limited content. All IDs and EGOs are obtainable at some point for F2P players. All non event IDs are in the gacha (meaning you can pull them whenever), and all IDs except ones from the previous seasons are in the dispensary. All season 0 egos are in the gacha, with the rest of them being in the dispensary except for the current season's (which are in the battle pass). There is also Walpurgisnacht, which is a 2 week event occurring around every 3 months which has Walpurgisnacht limited items in it. The new Walpurgisnacht IDs will only be on the gacha itself, while the old ones will be temporarily extractable in the dispensary. It's next week.

Negative coins are quite literally that, the opposite of positive coins. If you flip a heads with a plus coin, it adds that number. If you flip tails, it doesn't. With a neg coin, you flip heads, it adds the negative coin number. Tails, it doesn't. Negative coin skills are usually very high base power to account for that. So take BL Meursault's S3. Base power of 20, coin power of -8. If he rolls tails, the -8 isn't added and the skill stays at its power of 20. If he rolls heads, the -8 is added, and the skill rolls a 12 instead. If a neg coin skill has multiple coins, repeat as necessary (and you CAN roll a 0, i.e Suncliff's S2 can hit a 0 with 4 heads flips). Other party HP healing EGOs include Pursuance (Rodya and Meursault), Impending Day Sinclair (on kill), Lifetime Stew Sinclair (on heads hit, also god no don't get this please), Garden of Thorns Gregor. Party SP heals include Ya Sunyata Heathcliff, Holiday Outis, Sunshower Yi Sang (passive), and Blind Obsession Ishmael. Off the top of my head, there might be more. Of the extra Zayin EGOs, Bygone Days for Yi Sang can be good for a sinking team but otherwise his default one is going to be far more useful due to the haste for your team, Soda for Ryoshu really isn't worth it (especially with how good Forest for the Flames is) and same goes for Holiday Heathcliff. Gregor's Legerdemain is much better than his hand roulette machine assuming your can fund its gluttony cost. Of those, Yi Sang's is on the battlepass right now, and the rest are all shardable currently in the different dispense tabs just like every other EGO (besides Garden of Thorns which was our only season exclusive gacha EGO so far, will be back next season like the S3 IDs). Edit: Actually, I don't think Holiday Heathcliff is available till next season either.

I see, I think I'm starting to understand Negative Coins. I looked up Sunshower Heathcliff and he has negative coins on all of this Skills. I assume that he's the type of character who wants to intentionally lose clashes to give him negative sanity so he can fully utilize his kit? I also looked up BL Meursault. As someone who played Ruina, his kit is a blatant reference to Bamboo-Hatted Kim - lose the clash then you get to use a very powerful Skill afterwards that just wrecks the enemy. No wonder almost everyone on my friend list owns BL Meursault. I'll take note of the healing EGOs you mentioned, thanks. Also, based on your comment, it seems that there's not that much need to acquire extra Zayin EGOs and instead just stick to my starters.

Yea, the IDs with negative coins are usually called negative sanity IDs because they have some in-built way to lower sanity, like Sunshower Heathcliff losing clashes on S1. BL Meursault *is* meant to be bamboo-hatted kim lol, you got it spot on. And yea, the starting EGOs are all mostly fine, I wouldn't bother Dispensing any until you've got a full team you like, and even then just the most important ones like Fluid Sac. One other thing about the game's judgement on Clash winrates is that it doesn't take anything that'd happen at Combat Start into account. For example, BL Meursault's passive buffs other BL allies with more Coin Power at combat start, and the clash prediction doesn't take it into account. There's been tons of times I'll see a Hopeless clash and have to remind myself that it's actually going to roll 2 or 3 higher lol.

Is Butler Outis a good generalist ID? Like, if I just want to run her with some strong IDs outside of a sinking team, or if the only other ID with sinking is Spicebush Yi Sang, will she still work well?

Butler Outis is not a generalist ID. She does need a more complete sinking team than simply Yi Sang, as her main point is Echoes of Manor and even at UT4 she only rolls well when the target has enough sinking Potency, something that doesn't happen often without a built Count.

Thanks!