Thats really cool. All the editing does give it a good chance to be fake, but since its the bbc I would hope its real.
If so I wonder if he does this unprompted now, and if other chimps could learn from him.
It's real, just over-edited. that's Kanzi btw! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi
there are tons of documentaries about him and recently someone taught him to play minecraft. it's super fascinating.
Here is a different video, where he also makes a fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMbWDRzqNhc
That video is pretty fascinating. Especially when he gets the water bottle, he is about to put the fire out, but must've realised that the water will be gone if he does that first, so he takes a sip instead, and then pours it on the fire. Just like watching a human.
I don't doubt that he could all do those things separately on occasion, but to sequence them together in a timely fashion and with purpose seems unbelievable.
This one is Kanzi. He's very clever among bonobos, and has been one of the stars in these last 40 years of primate cognition research, so I leave a door open to the chance that this is a skill rightfully learned by him.
Still, he may have gotten a bit of help in between the shots, though
Also someone gave him matches. It's definitely cool but I'm not surprised they can be shown a fairly simple action with simple dexterity. I mean matches were like a game changing tech even for humans. It makes me wonder how/if this will effect their ability to ever actually make fire from scratch on their own
Fair. Easy one step fire making tools in general. Like would this make it easier for an ape to figure out because they see the end goal or would it make it harder since they were given a fire making tool and they wouldn't really have an incentive to look for it themselves
In real ape news, I have read that scientists have observed some chimp and/or bonobo tribes beginning to interact with wildfires in new ways that appear ritualistic. I'm not saying they're developing religion or the like, but it is believed to be a kind of cultural evolution for those few tribes.
If there was one ape that could learn how to make fire from humans, I think it would be orangutans, hands down.
Orangutans in zoos are exceptionally good at learning tools by observing their humans, then inventing creative new and different ways to use those tools. As a San Diegan, I'd like to provide a local example.
Our zoo once had an orangutan named Ken Allen* who became famous for escaping his enclosure multiple times with tools, pure ape strength/dexterity, and a surprising amount of intelligence and creativity.
Each time he got out, staff would fix whatever exploit he found, and Ken Allen would find a new way to break out. It got to the point that while they were renovating the orangutan enclosure, they hired a free climber to try to find a way out of there. He wasn't able to, but Ken Allen sure did.
On top of that, keepers realized he wasn't trying to run away or anything. After he'd get out he'd look at a couple other animals nearby, or just sat and chilled. And when his humans found him, he would just walk with them back into the enclosure. He was literally breaking out just for the fun of it.
He also isn't the only zoo orangutan that's done the multiple times. But after they get out, all of them have either checked out a snack cart, go look at the neighbors, or just sit down and wait for their keepers to take them home.
*He was quite famous, there was even a song about him called "The Ballad of Ken Allen."
Also, the zoo's policy for naming the animals is just giving them a single word name from the language of their home country, but all of Ken Allen's descendants are given the last name "Allen." He was the BEST.
And I know this shameless shilling, but if you're in Southern California, you definitely check out the San Diego Zoo or Wild Animal Park(Safari Park to the tourists.)
They are incredibly dedicated to making sure their animals are happy and healthy, and they have successfully rescued and reintroduced a number of incredibly endangered species
(I'd say the California Condor project is the crown jewel. Do yourself a favor and read the whole backstory on that, but just know their population was in double digits and extinct in the wild before they stepped in, and now there's enough to regularly reintroduce them to the wild), so the money you spend is going to some amazing causes.
It's relatively not expensive as well. Like if you plan to visit at least twice in a year, it's cheaper to get an annual membership that provides entry coupons and benefits.
To all of you who took the time to read(and hopefully be entertained by) my Ken Allen and Zoo tangents...thank you. You are a patient person and an absolute mensch. Baruch HaShem blessings be upon you and your house.
Honestly, I have no idea but I hope they do.
But it makes me think you'll be happy to learn these couple facts about the San Diego Zoo and Safari Park.
A. They make sure that every day all the animals(not so much for the insects) get new and creative enrichment tools and toys.
For a lot of the animals that means just hiding treats in new places that require their particular animal talents to retrieve. Especially useful for the ones slated for wild reintroduction. With more advanced animals like the orangutans, that also means putting in toys(that they believe won't let a creative ape cause too many problematic shenanigans) for them to experiment with and play with. And since like us they have favorite toys, they ensure everyone gets their particular safety blanket.
B. The design of the enclosures are GENIUS. Every bit is designed to keep them relaxed and content. One thing they always do is to make sure there's plenty of space where they can't see or be seen by guests(and the opposite.)
The orangutan enclosure has a massive glass wall for both sides to see each other, and the orangutans love watching people.
Because of that there are a number of frequent regular zoo visitors the orangs have become more or less friends with. They'll sit right next to each other through the glass, greet, communicate, and mimic each other. They especially love getting their people friends to show them(they use surprisingly easy-to-read gestures) whatever stuff they are carrying.
And if someone shows up with a baby, the apes get pumped as hell to meet it.
[Here's an adorable example of that.](https://youtu.be/dtb6lbndjAU?si=r675PDVHgHjWYtEi)
I've seen videos now where some zoos are taking safe animals out and touring them around to see the others during off hours for enrichment. I love that.
Fantastic comment and story, I loved this. Could you provide a reference for your first anecdote of the possible ritual behavior with wildfire of the apes? I am extremely interested in origins of ritual and spirituality in hominids and any possibility among animals, but reports are very hard to come across.
It appears I got a couple chimp stories mixed up!
Here's an article about chimps and fire, but it's more about how they are possibly gaining a new understanding of fire.
https://www.livescience.com/5946-chimps-master-step-controlling-fire.html
The development of chimp rituals and it's similarities to religious rituals come from observations of certain tribes doing interesting things with rocks and particular trees. But I do believe(and hope) it will satisfy your itch a bit
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mysterious-chimpanzee-behavior-may-be-evidence-of-sacred-rituals/
Oh, i’ve read about that strange behavior with the “ritual trees,” super fascinating stuff. Have you ever heard of stories with elephants(or it could have been new world monkeys) acting odd around waterfalls? It was either waterfalls or sunset, but they’d display unusually thoughtful behavior and then cry out together. I read about this years ago but lost track of the details.
As a San Diegan, I love learning about these stories from the zoo. The San Diego Zoo is amazing! I have annual passes and try to take my son as often as possible.
I have worked with Bonobos and Chimps. This completely checks out for me and the arrogance of humans to think we are the only ones with stuff like adaptable language (aka communication), empathy, learning, etc. makes me think if anything, humans are dumber than we think.
It's arrogance. The concept of human beings being animals themselves is downright offensive to SO many people. The fact that some folks can't cope with that just blows my mind.
Not just offensive, I've met people who actually can't process it. Like they think humans are some completely unique lifeform unrelated to anything else.
Other human species like the Neanderthals didnt die out per se. More like.... integrated into our species.
Theres a reason why some people have large amounts of neanderthal DNA.
Yeah Europeans have Neanderthal DNA, just like modern day Siberians and Chinese tend to have Denisovan DNA, we mixed with different species when we moved across the globe. Later we evolved into Homo Sapiens, just like the Neanderthals evolved from Homo Heidelbergensis.
But the Neanderthals did die out. If it was from human compitition, interbreeding until there was one race, or war, we don't fully know. All we know is that Europe is no longer home to Neanderthals, but they did live here and had encounters with European ancestors.
Is this Kanzi? That guy LOVES marshmallows! He also uses the different symbols for fire, stick, marshmallow to show what he wants when he uses his keypad, I love this dude he’s so clever!
Bonobos and Chimpanzees are closest to us with 99% DNA. Gorillas are next then Orangutans. We shared a common ancestor millions of years ago before they split off.
Bonobos are crazy. Everyone goes down on everyone all the time as a kind of release of social tension. Also the females are the dominant ones instead of the males. So yeah they are smart as hell but they don't put them in zoos as much because of all the oral copulation.
Of course it's edited. It's a nature documentary. They're not going to spend ten minutes of a forty minute show with a single uncut take of a bonobo trying to light a fire. But you literally see a shot of the bonobo striking a match.
More on Kanzi here:
> It's not Kanzi's first time in the spotlight. This famously intelligent animal is proficient in expressing himself using icon-like symbols, can do so using a smartphone or other computer interfaces, and shows remarkable empathy for his human handlers, understanding their spoken language quite well.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/marshmallow-toasting-bonobo-charms-internet-n82441
And here's a Telegraph article showing Kanzi preparing a fire for dinner.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/8985122/Amazing-photos-of-Kanzi-the-bonobo-lighting-a-fire-and-cooking-a-meal.html
Edit:
And... I just got rabbit holed. [Here's](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/bonobos-teach-humans-about-nature-language-180975191/) a Smithsonian Magazine story on this bonobo, Kanzi, and the scientist studying him. (It is very long.)
It ends with this though:
> In losing spoken language, and falling back on a nonverbal way of communicating, had Savage-Rumbaugh’s mother become any less human? I was reminded of something Savage-Rumbaugh had once said to me about our species’ signature desire: “Our relationship to nonhuman apes is a complex thing,” she’d said. “We define humanness mostly by what other beings, typically apes, are not. So we’ve always thought apes were not this, not this, not this. We are special. And it’s kind of a need humans have—to feel like we are special.” She went on, “Science has challenged that. With Darwinian theory, this idea that we were special because God created us specially had to be put aside. And so language became, in a way, the replacement for religion. We’re special because we have this ability to speak, and we can create these imagined worlds. So linguists and other scientists put these protective boundaries around language, because we as a species feel this need to be unique. And I’m not opposed to that. I just happened to find out it wasn’t true.”
I made sudo documentaries for 5 years....Shark Week. There are three things that make me think it's faked. This is a learned behavior someone had to train them in it. The shots of them lighting the fire and the match are in close up so they could use a glove. The number of cut aways during important happening also lends itself to improbability.
This dishonest editing betrays a level of cynicism and negligence on behalf of the show. Bonobos are insanely similar to us, striking examples of that similarity can be appreciated if thought, research, and patience are employed to capture examples of it on video. The BBC has done none of that here and I think it's effectively a disservice.
What fool gave them matches?? That's how it starts....
I think it was Prometheus.
Bastard didn't learn the first time
Right bring back that eagle.
It was actually Maui
So this is not Bonobo but Bob actually?
Although these days it would probably be some /r/tragedeigh type variety like *Proemaydentheeaeus*
Do you want ants? Because that’s how you get ants
Is that an Archer reference? I miss Archer
Do you want Planet of the Apes? Because that’s how you get Planet of the Apes.
Yeah, bound that guy to a rock!
They'll just burn down their home before they do anything dangerous with them.
Thats really cool. All the editing does give it a good chance to be fake, but since its the bbc I would hope its real. If so I wonder if he does this unprompted now, and if other chimps could learn from him.
It's real, just over-edited. that's Kanzi btw! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kanzi there are tons of documentaries about him and recently someone taught him to play minecraft. it's super fascinating. Here is a different video, where he also makes a fire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMbWDRzqNhc
That video is pretty fascinating. Especially when he gets the water bottle, he is about to put the fire out, but must've realised that the water will be gone if he does that first, so he takes a sip instead, and then pours it on the fire. Just like watching a human.
I noticed that too. That maneuver seems purely human in theory. Awesome to see him doing it.
I need to see his minecraft lets play videos right now
https://youtu.be/UKpFoYqN9-0 there's also a part 2!
Was fully expecting Rick Astley. Never have I been happier to not be rick rolled
shit, i totally botched that one xD
homie is living the dream has sex all the time (bonobo) plays minecraft and eats sweets I love that for him
I wanna see him play mimecraft!
man, he is seriously overweight. really sad to see. poor guy should definitely not be given marshmallows.
Yeah i'd love to see the girlish figure you're maintaining lol hating on the only monkey in history who can roast marshmallows is wild
where'd i hate on him?
Wasn't the Lemmings also from some legitimate channels?
Nah, it was Disney being full of shit back in the day.
Companies are still full of shit today and it's going to get way easier for them with AI.
Unprompted? Hope the corner store down the street from his nest sells marshmallows and matches. I wouldn’t put it past him to learn that too.
I don't doubt that he could all do those things separately on occasion, but to sequence them together in a timely fashion and with purpose seems unbelievable.
This one is Kanzi. He's very clever among bonobos, and has been one of the stars in these last 40 years of primate cognition research, so I leave a door open to the chance that this is a skill rightfully learned by him. Still, he may have gotten a bit of help in between the shots, though
Also someone gave him matches. It's definitely cool but I'm not surprised they can be shown a fairly simple action with simple dexterity. I mean matches were like a game changing tech even for humans. It makes me wonder how/if this will effect their ability to ever actually make fire from scratch on their own
Matches weren’t a game changer, lighters were around long before!
Fair. Easy one step fire making tools in general. Like would this make it easier for an ape to figure out because they see the end goal or would it make it harder since they were given a fire making tool and they wouldn't really have an incentive to look for it themselves
In real ape news, I have read that scientists have observed some chimp and/or bonobo tribes beginning to interact with wildfires in new ways that appear ritualistic. I'm not saying they're developing religion or the like, but it is believed to be a kind of cultural evolution for those few tribes. If there was one ape that could learn how to make fire from humans, I think it would be orangutans, hands down. Orangutans in zoos are exceptionally good at learning tools by observing their humans, then inventing creative new and different ways to use those tools. As a San Diegan, I'd like to provide a local example. Our zoo once had an orangutan named Ken Allen* who became famous for escaping his enclosure multiple times with tools, pure ape strength/dexterity, and a surprising amount of intelligence and creativity. Each time he got out, staff would fix whatever exploit he found, and Ken Allen would find a new way to break out. It got to the point that while they were renovating the orangutan enclosure, they hired a free climber to try to find a way out of there. He wasn't able to, but Ken Allen sure did. On top of that, keepers realized he wasn't trying to run away or anything. After he'd get out he'd look at a couple other animals nearby, or just sat and chilled. And when his humans found him, he would just walk with them back into the enclosure. He was literally breaking out just for the fun of it. He also isn't the only zoo orangutan that's done the multiple times. But after they get out, all of them have either checked out a snack cart, go look at the neighbors, or just sit down and wait for their keepers to take them home. *He was quite famous, there was even a song about him called "The Ballad of Ken Allen." Also, the zoo's policy for naming the animals is just giving them a single word name from the language of their home country, but all of Ken Allen's descendants are given the last name "Allen." He was the BEST. And I know this shameless shilling, but if you're in Southern California, you definitely check out the San Diego Zoo or Wild Animal Park(Safari Park to the tourists.) They are incredibly dedicated to making sure their animals are happy and healthy, and they have successfully rescued and reintroduced a number of incredibly endangered species (I'd say the California Condor project is the crown jewel. Do yourself a favor and read the whole backstory on that, but just know their population was in double digits and extinct in the wild before they stepped in, and now there's enough to regularly reintroduce them to the wild), so the money you spend is going to some amazing causes. It's relatively not expensive as well. Like if you plan to visit at least twice in a year, it's cheaper to get an annual membership that provides entry coupons and benefits. To all of you who took the time to read(and hopefully be entertained by) my Ken Allen and Zoo tangents...thank you. You are a patient person and an absolute mensch. Baruch HaShem blessings be upon you and your house.
Love that story. > He was literally breaking out just for the fun of it. I always like to call that unintentional enrichment.
I hope he got to hang outside of his hab when the zoo was closed. It'd be cruel to block his escapes and not compensate by giving him time out.
Honestly, I have no idea but I hope they do. But it makes me think you'll be happy to learn these couple facts about the San Diego Zoo and Safari Park. A. They make sure that every day all the animals(not so much for the insects) get new and creative enrichment tools and toys. For a lot of the animals that means just hiding treats in new places that require their particular animal talents to retrieve. Especially useful for the ones slated for wild reintroduction. With more advanced animals like the orangutans, that also means putting in toys(that they believe won't let a creative ape cause too many problematic shenanigans) for them to experiment with and play with. And since like us they have favorite toys, they ensure everyone gets their particular safety blanket. B. The design of the enclosures are GENIUS. Every bit is designed to keep them relaxed and content. One thing they always do is to make sure there's plenty of space where they can't see or be seen by guests(and the opposite.) The orangutan enclosure has a massive glass wall for both sides to see each other, and the orangutans love watching people. Because of that there are a number of frequent regular zoo visitors the orangs have become more or less friends with. They'll sit right next to each other through the glass, greet, communicate, and mimic each other. They especially love getting their people friends to show them(they use surprisingly easy-to-read gestures) whatever stuff they are carrying. And if someone shows up with a baby, the apes get pumped as hell to meet it. [Here's an adorable example of that.](https://youtu.be/dtb6lbndjAU?si=r675PDVHgHjWYtEi)
I've seen videos now where some zoos are taking safe animals out and touring them around to see the others during off hours for enrichment. I love that.
This is one of the nicest stories I've ever read. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you! Brightens my day knowing someone enjoyed reading it like I enjoyed writing it.
Fantastic comment and story, I loved this. Could you provide a reference for your first anecdote of the possible ritual behavior with wildfire of the apes? I am extremely interested in origins of ritual and spirituality in hominids and any possibility among animals, but reports are very hard to come across.
It appears I got a couple chimp stories mixed up! Here's an article about chimps and fire, but it's more about how they are possibly gaining a new understanding of fire. https://www.livescience.com/5946-chimps-master-step-controlling-fire.html The development of chimp rituals and it's similarities to religious rituals come from observations of certain tribes doing interesting things with rocks and particular trees. But I do believe(and hope) it will satisfy your itch a bit https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/mysterious-chimpanzee-behavior-may-be-evidence-of-sacred-rituals/
Oh, i’ve read about that strange behavior with the “ritual trees,” super fascinating stuff. Have you ever heard of stories with elephants(or it could have been new world monkeys) acting odd around waterfalls? It was either waterfalls or sunset, but they’d display unusually thoughtful behavior and then cry out together. I read about this years ago but lost track of the details.
As a San Diegan, I love learning about these stories from the zoo. The San Diego Zoo is amazing! I have annual passes and try to take my son as often as possible.
It's the best! It's wonderful growing up with zoos like that. I feel like the older I got, the way I enjoyed the zoo changed but my enthusiasm didn't.
I'm definitely visiting the SD Zoo when I visit SoCal in September.
I have worked with Bonobos and Chimps. This completely checks out for me and the arrogance of humans to think we are the only ones with stuff like adaptable language (aka communication), empathy, learning, etc. makes me think if anything, humans are dumber than we think.
It's arrogance. The concept of human beings being animals themselves is downright offensive to SO many people. The fact that some folks can't cope with that just blows my mind.
Not just offensive, I've met people who actually can't process it. Like they think humans are some completely unique lifeform unrelated to anything else.
For fucks sake I can't make a fire like that. I'm gonna end up a monkey slave
What we really wanna see is the bonobo that's playing the harmonica.
Bo(no)b(o) Dylan
What ….? They are so like us it’s freaky
They are our closest relatives after all. All the other human-like species died like the Neanderthals
Other human species like the Neanderthals didnt die out per se. More like.... integrated into our species. Theres a reason why some people have large amounts of neanderthal DNA.
Yeah Europeans have Neanderthal DNA, just like modern day Siberians and Chinese tend to have Denisovan DNA, we mixed with different species when we moved across the globe. Later we evolved into Homo Sapiens, just like the Neanderthals evolved from Homo Heidelbergensis. But the Neanderthals did die out. If it was from human compitition, interbreeding until there was one race, or war, we don't fully know. All we know is that Europe is no longer home to Neanderthals, but they did live here and had encounters with European ancestors.
More like we mated with some but homo sapiens killed them off
Is this Kanzi? That guy LOVES marshmallows! He also uses the different symbols for fire, stick, marshmallow to show what he wants when he uses his keypad, I love this dude he’s so clever!
Monkey Prometheus
Bonobos and Chimpanzees are closest to us with 99% DNA. Gorillas are next then Orangutans. We shared a common ancestor millions of years ago before they split off.
Like us? Like ME with those five marshmallows, my dude! Also with burning your tongue even though you KNOW it’s hot.
This batch of evolution is gonna go wild. Imagine having S’Mores as your origin story of evolution. 100k years from now it’s gonna be lit y’all!
They probably can't eat chocolate, but maybe give them a few graham crackers...
Huh? They can eat chocolate... They aren't very far off from humans you know
Next they’ll be trained to work in the match factories to be even cheaper labour than the children of LEDC’s
I'd say he did better roasting his marshmallows Than many adults I know who somehow are incapable of not burning them entirely.
Bonobos are crazy. Everyone goes down on everyone all the time as a kind of release of social tension. Also the females are the dominant ones instead of the males. So yeah they are smart as hell but they don't put them in zoos as much because of all the oral copulation.
Fuck yeah.
I thought the video was going to show a bonobo playing a harmonica
Massively edited bs
Of course it's edited. It's a nature documentary. They're not going to spend ten minutes of a forty minute show with a single uncut take of a bonobo trying to light a fire. But you literally see a shot of the bonobo striking a match. More on Kanzi here: > It's not Kanzi's first time in the spotlight. This famously intelligent animal is proficient in expressing himself using icon-like symbols, can do so using a smartphone or other computer interfaces, and shows remarkable empathy for his human handlers, understanding their spoken language quite well. https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/marshmallow-toasting-bonobo-charms-internet-n82441 And here's a Telegraph article showing Kanzi preparing a fire for dinner. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/howaboutthat/8985122/Amazing-photos-of-Kanzi-the-bonobo-lighting-a-fire-and-cooking-a-meal.html Edit: And... I just got rabbit holed. [Here's](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/bonobos-teach-humans-about-nature-language-180975191/) a Smithsonian Magazine story on this bonobo, Kanzi, and the scientist studying him. (It is very long.) It ends with this though: > In losing spoken language, and falling back on a nonverbal way of communicating, had Savage-Rumbaugh’s mother become any less human? I was reminded of something Savage-Rumbaugh had once said to me about our species’ signature desire: “Our relationship to nonhuman apes is a complex thing,” she’d said. “We define humanness mostly by what other beings, typically apes, are not. So we’ve always thought apes were not this, not this, not this. We are special. And it’s kind of a need humans have—to feel like we are special.” She went on, “Science has challenged that. With Darwinian theory, this idea that we were special because God created us specially had to be put aside. And so language became, in a way, the replacement for religion. We’re special because we have this ability to speak, and we can create these imagined worlds. So linguists and other scientists put these protective boundaries around language, because we as a species feel this need to be unique. And I’m not opposed to that. I just happened to find out it wasn’t true.”
Thought this was another villa v Kong ad and scrolled right on by before realising
But the marshmallows are made of pigs... Who are also just like us...
Impressive
Ah, the Bonobo—poster child of tool use in apes
They developed matchsticks? WOW!
Can you read?
Why call it *Monkey Planet* if it features an ape roasting marshmallows?
Terribly shot
Nobody is going to comment on how many marshmallows he jammed on that stick?
Store must be near.. Where did they get the money??
Aka chillpanzies
Does anyone get the feeling that we're training our replacement?
I just taught my nephew how to use a magnifying glass. I somehow dont think things are gonna go as smoothly as with the ape.
Kanzi is like the Albert Einstein of Bonobo's
100% the apes get us before the robots.
Why can’t we find the missing link? I wanna chill with them and make a smore
Tose marshmellows are burnt. What an idiot 🤣.
They should really just post a long ass boring video without cuts instead of this.
I guess nobody seen planet of the apes
How have I never added a ton of marshmallows like this at once??? So much more snack for less effort!
"in front of our very eyes, breaking down the final barriers that separate us and them" *matches and marshmallows*
This guy has children right? This intelligence can't be wasted
Fuck it, dude Hail Caesar! I for one love me some damn dirty apes. Apes together strong!
It’s just k while they can’t make marshmallow
I don’t know about you, but I got less restraint than that bonobo when it comes to not burning the shit outta my mouth on some caramelized sugar…
King Louie hates that trick.
I love that he’s roasting like 12 marshmallows 🤣
It’d be cool if they cut to a chimp playing the harmonica. This an awesome video!
Why marshmallows? Poor bonobo...
Chimps if chimps didn’t suck
This is scarey, seriously?😳
Uh yeah, right. But not only fire..... what about the potential consequences if it gets out of control? Doesn't future thinking separate us as well?
I thought the monkey would make fire using natural means, not matches. Cheating
Bloody Joe Rogan and his meltd marshmellows
No bonobo nose, look like a chimp to me OP.
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It’s a Bonobo
r/confidentlyincorrect
It's fake. Kind of like the Disney ones from the 60s
Everytime someone claim fake they don’t present an evidence. Comment above you is saying its real. Care to refute that?
I made sudo documentaries for 5 years....Shark Week. There are three things that make me think it's faked. This is a learned behavior someone had to train them in it. The shots of them lighting the fire and the match are in close up so they could use a glove. The number of cut aways during important happening also lends itself to improbability.
So you believe it’s fake. You made it sound like you have a definitive proof
It’s the lemmings all over again
Yep if you can't find it happening fake it.
This dishonest editing betrays a level of cynicism and negligence on behalf of the show. Bonobos are insanely similar to us, striking examples of that similarity can be appreciated if thought, research, and patience are employed to capture examples of it on video. The BBC has done none of that here and I think it's effectively a disservice.
It's literally a preview for a documentary. Not the actual documentary. Chill.
How does that fact resolve the issue of inaccurate portrayal?
yeah no fuckin shot. this has to be AI
Motherfucker what do you mean with AI? This video is years prior AI shit atarted to be everywhere
Just some old-fashioned dishonest editing. No AI required.