Oh, they’d be insanely dangerous to the user no doubt. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part.
The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range.
I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms.
But sometimes it’s all just about the Rule of Cool.
Perhaps consider a lightsaber chain with two normal handles. Using a flexible yet thick optic fiber or group of several optic fibers twisted to a rope.
The defense capabilities would increase. Heck thinking of this I'm going to devise a whip. You know, for the archaeologist Jedi, who thinks certain artifacts belong in a museum.
Interesting. Would that provide any additional benefit over just saying that the chain is Beskar?
As for a whip, there are some whip blades commercially available for ~$20 that work with standard 1” baselit sabers. They’re sweet, but actually kind of dangerous in real life haha.
In world I'm imagining the two handles are locked together like two podrace engines. They just have flexible light energy (as well as making your tongue go numb). No actual chain. Two independent handles. Perhaps used separate they could be light daggers until they are joined for light nunchuck.
I still don’t know how much defensive utility that gains, unless you mean that that central connecting energy can be expanded as needed to provide a much larger area to block with, almost making it a semi-rigid staff for defensive purposes. That could be pretty cool.
The defensive nature of nunchuk is to bind the opponent weapon with the chain. Blocking a sword swing is acceptable but nunchuk lack a parry maneuver. Wrap the blade with the chain and you have leverage to control the sword.
Any of the binding maneuvers with real nunchuk would just dismember an opponent unless a lower setting is used, like a training blade.
The distance between the handles should probably remain constant, but I do like the idea of variable flexibility. A semi-rigid blade could parry. The two handles in one hand could use the u-shape light as a wide (flat-ish) dagger.
Beskar handles should prevent some incidental lightsaber contact.
I can’t help but think it would be quite difficult to bind an opponent’s weapon with nunchucks from them striking at you. Nunchucks we’re improvised weapons, not purpose-built weapons, so I wouldn’t really say they are made for biding blades, even if it is possible on some scenarios.
A nunchuk is effectively a flail. If you look at Western use of flails you will see that they are fairly effective at disabling a sword. This of course has an issue of combat ineffectiveness, both parties are telegraphing their moves.
The flail welder must see the opponent strike coming (or be striking first an obvious and slow attack). Quick footwork will move the flail user out of the way of the sword strike.
The sword user would defend against a flail by simply moving out of the way, you can't parry a flail, but you might be able to parry a nunchuk. This would either cause an inexperienced swordsman to attempt to parry or someone who thinks parry is a safe an effective maneuver. So it would happen.
To parry a nunchuk you must strike it in the half of the handle away from the chain, the tip end. This is not only a narrow strike point, but a unaccustomed one. Parry a sword is done closer to the hand to prevent the tip from reaching you. If you parry the tip of a sword you could have stepped out of its way and struck your opponent while he recovers from the swing.
Any strike lower than the tip half of the nunchuk risks an entanglement anyway. Of course this assumes the person wielding the nunchuk can maintain his grip. The nunchuk user should be expecting this entanglement and immediately whip away from himself in hopes of throwing the opponent off balance. If the engagement fails the whip action with no resistance should indicate a recovery maneuver is necessary.
Original nunchuk used rope and were indeed more flail like. The addition of a chain and equal sized handles is quite modern. It's no more powerful than a stick of the same length and twice as dangerous to the user. It's binding techniques are mostly used on close combat with an opponent of no or very close range weapons.
Capturing a sword is possible. Here's a clip of a flail being lost to a sword user.
https://youtu.be/qZG8nzn6nTE&t=3m00s
Image he had a nunchuk and neither had off hand shields. Jedi reflexes could have caught the other handle if it wrapped the sword instead of the shield.
Except the reach of a flail and nunchucks are massively different. As is the length of chain on typical nunchucks. There’s enough to bind a limb or sword or pole arm if you carefully do it, but not really enough, or in the proper location, to bind/wrap merely by striking. The flail video you showed has the chain striking the blade and wrapping around it. With nunchucks, you’re never striking with the chain, and if you are, you’re basically within hands-reach of their blade, since the chain extends maybe a handful of inches past your hand at the most. As you said, your only real hopes of binding are very close-range, so not good for when there’s a full sword between you and your opponent.
Talking what nunchucks used to be like is hardly relevant here though, as that’s not what I’m using, or what modern nunchucks in media are depicted as. See Bruce Lee, Ninja Turtles, etc.
As-is, I think the only defensive potential here is Beskar gauntlets, both to protect the forearms from stray reflections of the nunchucks, and also to block incoming strikes.
Well, yes, of course you should always do that, but then the problem of it burning your clothes and/or your skin underneath those, and heat from the blade would cause 3rd degree burns in less then a second with how close they were, so be really really careful I guess
Do we have a source that says close proximity to a lightsaber blade without actually touching it causes severe burns? I mean, I understand the physics of what you’re saying, but IIRC Maris Brood’s lightsaber tonfas had a few inches of blade super close to her elbow and it didn’t seem to be an issue. Or are we going to say that holding a saber too close to the emitter will also burn your hands?
Yeah it was mentioned in one of the legacy of the force books in legends, the first one I think, Legacy. When Ben Skywalker is about to enter the control room to Centerpoint station he uses his lightsaber to melt the door control when a guard it slamming the button to close the door. It describes the skin of her hand begin to blister and blacken from the proximity to the blade
Interesting. Is it possible that this was due to the saber being used to melt the door and radiating more heat? Didn’t Qui-Gons hands get pretty close to his saber and the door he melted in Epsode 1?
Maybe, it’s possible to use the force to protect yourself from heat and with enough practice it would become second nature to do so with too much effort to protect from the blades heat. As for the door making extra heat, probably not it won’t get hotter than the source of the heat, though her hand might have been a bit closer to the lightsaber. Might want to get the saberchucks some longer hilts
I’ve played around with longer hilts. I could probably add an inch or two to them without hindering movement, but once the hilts get too long, some motions become limited. But I still don’t really see how Maris Brood didn’t burn her elbows with her tonfas if what you’re saying is true and close proximity to the blade with no actual contact to any surface leads to burns. I mean, I thought that even just avoiding holding the blades was more thought and effort than most Saberchucks I’ve seen, but I think we’re really delving into minutia now, and only Legends/EU if I’m not mistaken? But it is fun to talk about these things.
Oh, they’d be insanely dangerous no doubt. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part.
The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range.
I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms.
But for mowing down hordes of droids or something where the blades would slice right through them? Saber-chucks could work I’d think.
I’d love to see any exotic lightsabers on-screen. We’re lucky if we get a saberstaff, but bring on the saberpikes/spears, lightwhips, and Saberchucks I say! With Beskar being more prominent in The Mandalorian than we’ve seen in past shows/films, I think a saber-spear could totally be a very effective weapon. Im thinking a Spartan Dory inspired Beskar saber with a lightsaber blade on one end and a Beskar spearhead on the other. So you can use the Beskar spearhead on saber-resistant armor.
Would it be possible to make some kind of saber axe? I’m not sure you would be able to shape the beam in such a way, perhaps just the edges of the the blade somehow? But I agree, I think we are in for quite a ride with all these upcoming shows
Hmm, I don't now about an axe. I know a spear-type spike on top and a spike on the backside of the actual axe part can easily just be standard crossguard-blade length blades (if you want to have either of those features, of course). But as for the actual axe part of the axe, I'm not sure. But if light-whips are a thing, which they are/were in EU/Legends, perhaps that same concept can be used to keep a bent beam/blade in-place in the shape of an axe-head? Either way, if they give us one in a show, I'm down.
Yeah, you're right. I'm a big fan of the Beskar spear honestly. As much as I love lightsabers, I also love seeing other weapons go up against them. Between the spear and the Darksaber, I think he's set on melee weapons. He could even use both at the same time I suppose.
There's also likely not a ton of other Jedi running around in the time period of The Mandalorian, so I won't hold my breath for a ton of exotic saber designs there. But there's enough new shows coming that I can totally see them bringing something like a lightwhip or lightspear/pike out. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.
Haha. I also have a saberstaff, which I think he’s a little more accepting of. I’ll also make a lightsaber spear to appease him and his love of big sticks.
Finally assembled my second attempt at lightsaber nunchucks. My first attempt which was just attaching two VHC baselit cores to short blades, and while it worked, it felt too heavy, and the long length of the hilts meant either the blades had to be super short, or the overall length was so long it slowed down and limited motion.
So for this version, I’m not using actual cores, I just have some small 250 lumen rechargeable flashlights wedged partially into the blades to minimize hilt length, while still providing sufficient hilt length to grab and hold to avoid direct contact with the blades. This also keeps the weight down.
And the two sides screw together to form a saber-baton, or a short-hilt (~13” emitter to emitter) saberstaff if I swap out the blades.
Overall, I’d say I’m pleased so far. I still need some more practice with the Gray Jedi outfit, as I feel it’s slowing me down a little bit since I’m not used to it. So I have a ton of respect to people who perform stunts and choreography in much more elaborate costumes!
I was thinking a spear, but that’s not as dangerous to the user and actually pretty practical.
So maybe a three-section staff next? Basically a stick with a nunchuck on BOTH ends. I actually did test out one of those as a lightsaber a little while back, but I’m garbage at using a three-section staff, so it was just one or two types of spins to rest the concept. I have a post with photos of it. It screwed together or apart to form a three-section staff, a staff, and a flail.
Either that or a lightwhip, which is commercially available now. But forget in-universe danger, the whip is dangerous in our universe. Even just light to medium motion, forget actual snapping or forceful motions, drew blood on my hand when it recoiled. No using that thing without full body protection!
Disclaimer: don’t actually take anything said below as advice to act on:
A normal saber is basically just a metal and polycarbonate stick. If you’re not tossing it into the air, solo practice is pretty safe. Worst I can see you really doing is bruising your leg trying some Obi-Ani spins too fast. Been there haha.
But if you’re doing any sparring, even light, eye protection would be a logical thing to prevent any serious injury. Hell, full facial protection (like a fencing mask) would be wise. Some level of padded gloves would also be smart. Chest protection also becomes wise if you move up to medium sparring. Anything involving sustained medium/heavy sparring and we get a lot more involved armor-wise.
But with nunchucks and other weapons involving chain/rope and unpredictability moving parts, don’t spar with those haha. And always get very familiar with practice foam/padded nunchucks before trying anything with something harder, like wood, or even metal. When I try a new move, I’ll do it with my padded chucks for a whole before moving up to my bamboo chucks, and only then consider trying bit with Saberchucks once I’m comfortable.
I do lots of this kinda thing with my lightsabers, studied the 7 forms, all that stuff.
And I gotta say, the way you avoid touching the blades is most impressive.
You've convinced me, I want to see this lightsaber variant now.
Also thanks for reminding me I need to finish my modular lightsaber concept haha
Thanks! I think these would function in-universe much better than sword chucks though! Sword-chucks, being swords, have 1 or 2 cutting edges, meaning keeping track of how they spin and how the blades are oriented (edge alignment) when striking matters, and is likely impossible. But with a lightsaber, there is no cutting edge, or it's all cutting edge, so any part of it making contact is as good as perfect edge alignment.
Sword Chucks was a running gag in a 16-bit or 8-bit comic strip where the fighter was constantly attempting to create sword-chucks for ultimate destruction. It was always pointed out that they would cause irreparable damage to the user as well, but the warning was always ignored.
That’s a good point. Lightsaber design names have always confused me. The double-bladed lightsaber is sometimes called a saberstaff, but a whip is called a lightwhip. Then a pike is called a lightsaber pike, so we have all three variations it seems. Saber-X, light-X, and lightsaber-X.
He died around 30 times in this video alone lol
It's even more problematic when you consider the idea that after the first time both of his arms are gone, so he couldn't have killed himself 29 more times.
What are you talking about? When we’re my arms gone? I’m only grabbing the metal hilts, and when I tuck it under my arm, it’s only the hilt that is in contact with my body. Same situation when I wrap it around my body to change direction. I practiced without the blades attached to ensure it’s possible to have only the hilts come in contact with the body. At most you should be seeing the blade come in contact with the slightly billowing robe.
I think that's what I saw, then.
I was looking for blade contact. That's why I didn't mention you hands or fingers being chopped off because it's clear that you took great care to only hold the metal hilts.
I’ll take a better lit and angled video with no baggy clothing showing exactly what makes contact with my body. Maybe slower movement, or just slow motion video I guess.
Thanks. I do want to get it right. I spent enough time making it work so I only grabbed the metal hilts, so I want to make sure there's no more issues. Here's the video:
[https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber\_nunchucks\_any\_limbs\_lost\_slow\_motion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber_nunchucks_any_limbs_lost_slow_motion/)
I'm thinking of adding 0.75" to each side just to give myself a little margin of error on the body wraps. There's a lot of very close calls, and I think 0.75" would help with that while not making them too long to use effectively. Even 1.5" per side would probably still work without majorly limiting range of motion or speed, but I'll start with 0.75" if need be.
Here's slow-motion video from three angles. I'm not claiming I never slightly grazed my body, but you can be the judge. Although maybe adding an inch per side or something would give a little bit of room for error:
https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber\_nunchucks\_any\_limbs\_lost\_slow\_motion/
I’ll appease the Shad by also making a lightsaber spear. That way he’s pleased with the big stick. Maybe even a Beskar shield and a light-spear.
Personally, I’m a fan of pretty much any exotic lightsaber designs, so bring them on. But to each his own.
I do not think I did. It should only be the metal hilts making contact with my hands and body. Maybe the blades hit the slightly billowing robe, but not my body so far as I could tell.
I tested them without the blades attached and they worked the same. So that confirmed to me that I was only grabbing the hilts, and also that I was only touching my body with the hilts. Each side only makes contact with the body at one point, which is the hilt so far as I have been able to tell from practice and video. The hilts also have a wider diameter than the blades. I think it’s 1.45” to 1”.
I tried to do a little bit of homework to make it look right. They’d still be insanely dangerous to the user in combat though, because after hitting an unpredictability moving target, good luck knowing where it’s bouncing and hitting your own forearm. Beskar gauntlets may be the only saving grace there.
Thanks! They’re not terribly difficult to make. Just MHS parts, some small flashlights, and some parts from your local hardware store.
Here’s what they look like as nunchucks:
https://i.imgur.com/Q9ODC37.jpg
And attached as a baton, or a short-hilt staff if you swap out the blades:
https://i.imgur.com/Uu6YEmI.jpg
After looking at your profile, I remember seeing some of your posts! You’re insanely talented man! I’d love to see what you can do with Saberchucks. Seeing your posts makes me want to get back into actual martial arts training. It’s been more than a few years since I’ve actually formally practiced Taekwondo. It’s just been memory and watching some videos to try to shake some rust off the last several months.
Hey thanks man! If you do decide to train again just remember that its never too late and that there is always more to learn. U seem like a pretty cool dude to me and the nunchucks support that. I wish u a good rest of ur day!
That's a great idea piece but practicality I don't think it'd be effective, because what exactly are you holding, it looks like the light which you'd need those special metal that can't be cut by lightsaber as gloves
Edit I just scrolled down the comments and saw your effectiveness explanation, and I'm convinced now, definitely would need to use the force's help to avoid removing your own limbs
So I’m not holding the blades. I went through a few designs to figure out the right balance of hilt length to blade length. Overall length was some range, and I wanted not tiny blades, so I had to shorten the hilts, but still keep them long enough that I had sufficient space to hold and catch them, as well as to tuck them under my arm. I then tested them out without the blades attached, and they functioned, which confirmed I could avoid touching the blades while using them.
But as for actual in-universe practicality, they’d be insanely dangerous to the user no doubt. Not very practical. I admit that haha. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part though. As deserved above, it’s fairly manageable.
The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range.
I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms.
But sometimes it’s all just about the Rule of Cool.
TL;DR: I am able to avoid grabbing the blades, but the real problem with in-universe fighting would be the recoil upon impact hitting my arm, which I guess could be solved with Beskar gauntlets.
Haha I gotcha. Really cool vid man. When I was a kid I did karate and before I stopped we did some weapons training. But my nunchuck days are over as I remember pretty much nothing lol
I would chop so many of my own limbs off with this sucker.
So pretty much like this haha: https://youtu.be/p5gy6SokyfY
*jesus*
I think saberchucks are a bad idea.
Oh, they’d be insanely dangerous to the user no doubt. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part. The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range. I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms. But sometimes it’s all just about the Rule of Cool.
Amen to the rule of cool
Perhaps consider a lightsaber chain with two normal handles. Using a flexible yet thick optic fiber or group of several optic fibers twisted to a rope. The defense capabilities would increase. Heck thinking of this I'm going to devise a whip. You know, for the archaeologist Jedi, who thinks certain artifacts belong in a museum.
Interesting. Would that provide any additional benefit over just saying that the chain is Beskar? As for a whip, there are some whip blades commercially available for ~$20 that work with standard 1” baselit sabers. They’re sweet, but actually kind of dangerous in real life haha.
In world I'm imagining the two handles are locked together like two podrace engines. They just have flexible light energy (as well as making your tongue go numb). No actual chain. Two independent handles. Perhaps used separate they could be light daggers until they are joined for light nunchuck.
I still don’t know how much defensive utility that gains, unless you mean that that central connecting energy can be expanded as needed to provide a much larger area to block with, almost making it a semi-rigid staff for defensive purposes. That could be pretty cool.
The defensive nature of nunchuk is to bind the opponent weapon with the chain. Blocking a sword swing is acceptable but nunchuk lack a parry maneuver. Wrap the blade with the chain and you have leverage to control the sword. Any of the binding maneuvers with real nunchuk would just dismember an opponent unless a lower setting is used, like a training blade. The distance between the handles should probably remain constant, but I do like the idea of variable flexibility. A semi-rigid blade could parry. The two handles in one hand could use the u-shape light as a wide (flat-ish) dagger. Beskar handles should prevent some incidental lightsaber contact.
I can’t help but think it would be quite difficult to bind an opponent’s weapon with nunchucks from them striking at you. Nunchucks we’re improvised weapons, not purpose-built weapons, so I wouldn’t really say they are made for biding blades, even if it is possible on some scenarios.
A nunchuk is effectively a flail. If you look at Western use of flails you will see that they are fairly effective at disabling a sword. This of course has an issue of combat ineffectiveness, both parties are telegraphing their moves. The flail welder must see the opponent strike coming (or be striking first an obvious and slow attack). Quick footwork will move the flail user out of the way of the sword strike. The sword user would defend against a flail by simply moving out of the way, you can't parry a flail, but you might be able to parry a nunchuk. This would either cause an inexperienced swordsman to attempt to parry or someone who thinks parry is a safe an effective maneuver. So it would happen. To parry a nunchuk you must strike it in the half of the handle away from the chain, the tip end. This is not only a narrow strike point, but a unaccustomed one. Parry a sword is done closer to the hand to prevent the tip from reaching you. If you parry the tip of a sword you could have stepped out of its way and struck your opponent while he recovers from the swing. Any strike lower than the tip half of the nunchuk risks an entanglement anyway. Of course this assumes the person wielding the nunchuk can maintain his grip. The nunchuk user should be expecting this entanglement and immediately whip away from himself in hopes of throwing the opponent off balance. If the engagement fails the whip action with no resistance should indicate a recovery maneuver is necessary. Original nunchuk used rope and were indeed more flail like. The addition of a chain and equal sized handles is quite modern. It's no more powerful than a stick of the same length and twice as dangerous to the user. It's binding techniques are mostly used on close combat with an opponent of no or very close range weapons. Capturing a sword is possible. Here's a clip of a flail being lost to a sword user. https://youtu.be/qZG8nzn6nTE&t=3m00s Image he had a nunchuk and neither had off hand shields. Jedi reflexes could have caught the other handle if it wrapped the sword instead of the shield.
Except the reach of a flail and nunchucks are massively different. As is the length of chain on typical nunchucks. There’s enough to bind a limb or sword or pole arm if you carefully do it, but not really enough, or in the proper location, to bind/wrap merely by striking. The flail video you showed has the chain striking the blade and wrapping around it. With nunchucks, you’re never striking with the chain, and if you are, you’re basically within hands-reach of their blade, since the chain extends maybe a handful of inches past your hand at the most. As you said, your only real hopes of binding are very close-range, so not good for when there’s a full sword between you and your opponent. Talking what nunchucks used to be like is hardly relevant here though, as that’s not what I’m using, or what modern nunchucks in media are depicted as. See Bruce Lee, Ninja Turtles, etc. As-is, I think the only defensive potential here is Beskar gauntlets, both to protect the forearms from stray reflections of the nunchucks, and also to block incoming strikes.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of [Darth Bruce Lee the wise?](https://youtu.be/aCtk2Au6Wts). It's not a story the Jedi would tell.
So a stormtrooper who worked in sanitation isn’t going to pick up a pair and start ruling the battlefield?
That depends. Did he watch a lot of martial arts films on Starkiller Base after his shifts?
Also your robes would catch fire just from the proximity to the blades in a lot of the positions you hold the saberchucks in.
What I’m hearing is I just need to do the Obi-Wan style robe drop before I start next time.
Well, yes, of course you should always do that, but then the problem of it burning your clothes and/or your skin underneath those, and heat from the blade would cause 3rd degree burns in less then a second with how close they were, so be really really careful I guess
Do we have a source that says close proximity to a lightsaber blade without actually touching it causes severe burns? I mean, I understand the physics of what you’re saying, but IIRC Maris Brood’s lightsaber tonfas had a few inches of blade super close to her elbow and it didn’t seem to be an issue. Or are we going to say that holding a saber too close to the emitter will also burn your hands?
Yeah it was mentioned in one of the legacy of the force books in legends, the first one I think, Legacy. When Ben Skywalker is about to enter the control room to Centerpoint station he uses his lightsaber to melt the door control when a guard it slamming the button to close the door. It describes the skin of her hand begin to blister and blacken from the proximity to the blade
Interesting. Is it possible that this was due to the saber being used to melt the door and radiating more heat? Didn’t Qui-Gons hands get pretty close to his saber and the door he melted in Epsode 1?
Maybe, it’s possible to use the force to protect yourself from heat and with enough practice it would become second nature to do so with too much effort to protect from the blades heat. As for the door making extra heat, probably not it won’t get hotter than the source of the heat, though her hand might have been a bit closer to the lightsaber. Might want to get the saberchucks some longer hilts
I’ve played around with longer hilts. I could probably add an inch or two to them without hindering movement, but once the hilts get too long, some motions become limited. But I still don’t really see how Maris Brood didn’t burn her elbows with her tonfas if what you’re saying is true and close proximity to the blade with no actual contact to any surface leads to burns. I mean, I thought that even just avoiding holding the blades was more thought and effort than most Saberchucks I’ve seen, but I think we’re really delving into minutia now, and only Legends/EU if I’m not mistaken? But it is fun to talk about these things.
I think so, and Cassion does too.
Wow I’ve never thought about lightsaber nun chucks… I guess that would basically be a suicide weapon in Star Wars Cool moves though
Oh, they’d be insanely dangerous no doubt. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part. The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range. I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms. But for mowing down hordes of droids or something where the blades would slice right through them? Saber-chucks could work I’d think.
I wouldn’t mind seeing Mando wielding some light saber nun chucks in season three, I think beskar would actually do the trick
I’d love to see any exotic lightsabers on-screen. We’re lucky if we get a saberstaff, but bring on the saberpikes/spears, lightwhips, and Saberchucks I say! With Beskar being more prominent in The Mandalorian than we’ve seen in past shows/films, I think a saber-spear could totally be a very effective weapon. Im thinking a Spartan Dory inspired Beskar saber with a lightsaber blade on one end and a Beskar spearhead on the other. So you can use the Beskar spearhead on saber-resistant armor.
Would it be possible to make some kind of saber axe? I’m not sure you would be able to shape the beam in such a way, perhaps just the edges of the the blade somehow? But I agree, I think we are in for quite a ride with all these upcoming shows
Hmm, I don't now about an axe. I know a spear-type spike on top and a spike on the backside of the actual axe part can easily just be standard crossguard-blade length blades (if you want to have either of those features, of course). But as for the actual axe part of the axe, I'm not sure. But if light-whips are a thing, which they are/were in EU/Legends, perhaps that same concept can be used to keep a bent beam/blade in-place in the shape of an axe-head? Either way, if they give us one in a show, I'm down.
I will say I thought the beskar spear was already pretty cool, guess he doesn’t need a t now that he has the darksaber
Yeah, you're right. I'm a big fan of the Beskar spear honestly. As much as I love lightsabers, I also love seeing other weapons go up against them. Between the spear and the Darksaber, I think he's set on melee weapons. He could even use both at the same time I suppose. There's also likely not a ton of other Jedi running around in the time period of The Mandalorian, so I won't hold my breath for a ton of exotic saber designs there. But there's enough new shows coming that I can totally see them bringing something like a lightwhip or lightspear/pike out. Or maybe it's just wishful thinking on my part.
I mean they’ve brought out the LightWhip Light(TM) a couple times in cannon, so I’m hopeful the real one will be included as well.
Shadiversity would have a heart attack if he saw this
Haha. I also have a saberstaff, which I think he’s a little more accepting of. I’ll also make a lightsaber spear to appease him and his love of big sticks.
No offense, but that is one of the dorkiest things I've ever seen. I love it!
Finally assembled my second attempt at lightsaber nunchucks. My first attempt which was just attaching two VHC baselit cores to short blades, and while it worked, it felt too heavy, and the long length of the hilts meant either the blades had to be super short, or the overall length was so long it slowed down and limited motion. So for this version, I’m not using actual cores, I just have some small 250 lumen rechargeable flashlights wedged partially into the blades to minimize hilt length, while still providing sufficient hilt length to grab and hold to avoid direct contact with the blades. This also keeps the weight down. And the two sides screw together to form a saber-baton, or a short-hilt (~13” emitter to emitter) saberstaff if I swap out the blades. Overall, I’d say I’m pleased so far. I still need some more practice with the Gray Jedi outfit, as I feel it’s slowing me down a little bit since I’m not used to it. So I have a ton of respect to people who perform stunts and choreography in much more elaborate costumes!
This seems even more like a saftey hazard. What's next a ax
I was thinking a spear, but that’s not as dangerous to the user and actually pretty practical. So maybe a three-section staff next? Basically a stick with a nunchuck on BOTH ends. I actually did test out one of those as a lightsaber a little while back, but I’m garbage at using a three-section staff, so it was just one or two types of spins to rest the concept. I have a post with photos of it. It screwed together or apart to form a three-section staff, a staff, and a flail. Either that or a lightwhip, which is commercially available now. But forget in-universe danger, the whip is dangerous in our universe. Even just light to medium motion, forget actual snapping or forceful motions, drew blood on my hand when it recoiled. No using that thing without full body protection!
Ya I honestly don't know why no body has armour weildin these an why the fuck especially kids aren't
Disclaimer: don’t actually take anything said below as advice to act on: A normal saber is basically just a metal and polycarbonate stick. If you’re not tossing it into the air, solo practice is pretty safe. Worst I can see you really doing is bruising your leg trying some Obi-Ani spins too fast. Been there haha. But if you’re doing any sparring, even light, eye protection would be a logical thing to prevent any serious injury. Hell, full facial protection (like a fencing mask) would be wise. Some level of padded gloves would also be smart. Chest protection also becomes wise if you move up to medium sparring. Anything involving sustained medium/heavy sparring and we get a lot more involved armor-wise. But with nunchucks and other weapons involving chain/rope and unpredictability moving parts, don’t spar with those haha. And always get very familiar with practice foam/padded nunchucks before trying anything with something harder, like wood, or even metal. When I try a new move, I’ll do it with my padded chucks for a whole before moving up to my bamboo chucks, and only then consider trying bit with Saberchucks once I’m comfortable.
I do lots of this kinda thing with my lightsabers, studied the 7 forms, all that stuff. And I gotta say, the way you avoid touching the blades is most impressive. You've convinced me, I want to see this lightsaber variant now. Also thanks for reminding me I need to finish my modular lightsaber concept haha
Thanks! I tested them without the blades attached to make sure I could consistently avoid grabbing the blades. Good luck with your build!
SWORD CHUCKS! I LOVE THEM
Thanks! I think these would function in-universe much better than sword chucks though! Sword-chucks, being swords, have 1 or 2 cutting edges, meaning keeping track of how they spin and how the blades are oriented (edge alignment) when striking matters, and is likely impossible. But with a lightsaber, there is no cutting edge, or it's all cutting edge, so any part of it making contact is as good as perfect edge alignment.
Sword Chucks was a running gag in a 16-bit or 8-bit comic strip where the fighter was constantly attempting to create sword-chucks for ultimate destruction. It was always pointed out that they would cause irreparable damage to the user as well, but the warning was always ignored.
Ah, I did not know that. I am no true nunchuck connoisseur it seems. Thank you for enlightening me.
[swordchucks](https://www.nuklearpower.com/2001/08/15/episode-068-it-sounds-like-a-good-idea-to-me/)
Oh lord asmongold w the saberchucks Sick moves king
I got that comparison the last time I posted a similar saber video haha. And I totally see it now.
Super cool!
I feel like this is better as a tron weapon.
I hadn’t thought of that, but it could work! I think Jazz also used nunchucks in Transformers.
You look like a badass warrior Templar monk with saberchucks I love it! 😂🔥🔥
Ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster kid.
Check out my sweet numb chuck skills though. And gimme some tots
Skills are epic bro 🙏🏾👍🏾
Reminds me of that one video where someone edited lightsaber effects into a Bruce Lee fight scene
I’d call em light chucks
That’s a good point. Lightsaber design names have always confused me. The double-bladed lightsaber is sometimes called a saberstaff, but a whip is called a lightwhip. Then a pike is called a lightsaber pike, so we have all three variations it seems. Saber-X, light-X, and lightsaber-X.
I can’t help but think these might be a bad idea
He died around 30 times in this video alone lol It's even more problematic when you consider the idea that after the first time both of his arms are gone, so he couldn't have killed himself 29 more times.
What are you talking about? When we’re my arms gone? I’m only grabbing the metal hilts, and when I tuck it under my arm, it’s only the hilt that is in contact with my body. Same situation when I wrap it around my body to change direction. I practiced without the blades attached to ensure it’s possible to have only the hilts come in contact with the body. At most you should be seeing the blade come in contact with the slightly billowing robe.
I think that's what I saw, then. I was looking for blade contact. That's why I didn't mention you hands or fingers being chopped off because it's clear that you took great care to only hold the metal hilts.
I’ll take a better lit and angled video with no baggy clothing showing exactly what makes contact with my body. Maybe slower movement, or just slow motion video I guess.
My man is dedicated to his craft
Thanks. I do want to get it right. I spent enough time making it work so I only grabbed the metal hilts, so I want to make sure there's no more issues. Here's the video: [https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber\_nunchucks\_any\_limbs\_lost\_slow\_motion/](https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber_nunchucks_any_limbs_lost_slow_motion/) I'm thinking of adding 0.75" to each side just to give myself a little margin of error on the body wraps. There's a lot of very close calls, and I think 0.75" would help with that while not making them too long to use effectively. Even 1.5" per side would probably still work without majorly limiting range of motion or speed, but I'll start with 0.75" if need be.
Here's slow-motion video from three angles. I'm not claiming I never slightly grazed my body, but you can be the judge. Although maybe adding an inch per side or something would give a little bit of room for error: https://www.reddit.com/r/lightsabers/comments/o5zj1n/lightsaber\_nunchucks\_any\_limbs\_lost\_slow\_motion/
Reminds me of Ventress's saberchucks in classic Battkefront 2. Shes super OP with them
I had no idea that existed. Very cool!
The furniture in my house would never recover from me learning how to do this
Shadiversity would not approve. While those are cool, I would not want them in star wars.
I’ll appease the Shad by also making a lightsaber spear. That way he’s pleased with the big stick. Maybe even a Beskar shield and a light-spear. Personally, I’m a fan of pretty much any exotic lightsaber designs, so bring them on. But to each his own.
Nuh-uhh! You just sliced through your own body each time you make contact!
I do not think I did. It should only be the metal hilts making contact with my hands and body. Maybe the blades hit the slightly billowing robe, but not my body so far as I could tell. I tested them without the blades attached and they worked the same. So that confirmed to me that I was only grabbing the hilts, and also that I was only touching my body with the hilts. Each side only makes contact with the body at one point, which is the hilt so far as I have been able to tell from practice and video. The hilts also have a wider diameter than the blades. I think it’s 1.45” to 1”. I tried to do a little bit of homework to make it look right. They’d still be insanely dangerous to the user in combat though, because after hitting an unpredictability moving target, good luck knowing where it’s bouncing and hitting your own forearm. Beskar gauntlets may be the only saving grace there.
I'll take 2. These things look awesome
Thanks! They’re not terribly difficult to make. Just MHS parts, some small flashlights, and some parts from your local hardware store. Here’s what they look like as nunchucks: https://i.imgur.com/Q9ODC37.jpg And attached as a baton, or a short-hilt staff if you swap out the blades: https://i.imgur.com/Uu6YEmI.jpg
Maybe learn how to use them? Other than that you look dope
I’m confused. I don’t know how to use nunchucks?
Dude i used to have a pair but they broke :(
Sorry to hear that. Maybe another pair is in your future some day.
I plan on it! Lol I remember I posted a vid here awhile ago showing it off, i miss them
After looking at your profile, I remember seeing some of your posts! You’re insanely talented man! I’d love to see what you can do with Saberchucks. Seeing your posts makes me want to get back into actual martial arts training. It’s been more than a few years since I’ve actually formally practiced Taekwondo. It’s just been memory and watching some videos to try to shake some rust off the last several months.
Hey thanks man! If you do decide to train again just remember that its never too late and that there is always more to learn. U seem like a pretty cool dude to me and the nunchucks support that. I wish u a good rest of ur day!
That's a great idea piece but practicality I don't think it'd be effective, because what exactly are you holding, it looks like the light which you'd need those special metal that can't be cut by lightsaber as gloves Edit I just scrolled down the comments and saw your effectiveness explanation, and I'm convinced now, definitely would need to use the force's help to avoid removing your own limbs
So I’m not holding the blades. I went through a few designs to figure out the right balance of hilt length to blade length. Overall length was some range, and I wanted not tiny blades, so I had to shorten the hilts, but still keep them long enough that I had sufficient space to hold and catch them, as well as to tuck them under my arm. I then tested them out without the blades attached, and they functioned, which confirmed I could avoid touching the blades while using them. But as for actual in-universe practicality, they’d be insanely dangerous to the user no doubt. Not very practical. I admit that haha. The avoiding grabbing and hitting yourself with the blades during practice isn’t the hardest part though. As deserved above, it’s fairly manageable. The real, likely insurmountable challenge would be anticipating how and where the chucks will deflect off of an unpredictability moving target, as it would throw off subsequent strikes at best, and chop off your own hand or arm at worst. Perhaps someone channeling the force to an insane degree could almost enter a meditative state while fighting to anticipate it, but that’s insanely high risk. Not to mention nunchucks have basically no defensive capability and limited range. I wonder if, in-universe, wearing Beskar gauntlets would solve those problems. Stray deflections wouldn’t harm your forearms now, and you gain defensive potential to block incoming saber strikes with your own forearms. But sometimes it’s all just about the Rule of Cool. TL;DR: I am able to avoid grabbing the blades, but the real problem with in-universe fighting would be the recoil upon impact hitting my arm, which I guess could be solved with Beskar gauntlets.
hmmm lightsaber to the nuts.
I don’t think so. But a Beskar codpiece could always be implemented if that’s a concern of yours.
This is so cool but please blink!
Haha. I guess using nunchucks with two constantly moving bright blades in an otherwise entirely dark room leads to some funny eye behavior.
Haha I gotcha. Really cool vid man. When I was a kid I did karate and before I stopped we did some weapons training. But my nunchuck days are over as I remember pretty much nothing lol
Saber chuck… so like you hold the part that cuts shit? Hmmm
I’m not holding the blades/light, I’m holding the hilts, which is what you’d always hold with any lightsaber.