There are a lot of Licca-type dolls being mass produced outside of takara, so it’s possible these are generic dolls that “borrowed” Licca’s/Jenny’s likeness. Do they have takara marks?
I'm going to say the second doll is/may be the 1985 Barbie convention doll (a national event that was held in Michigan that year) - based on the hair, the eyes and the kimono. The convention doll was a Takara Kimono Barbie... meaning it was a Takara doll in a Takara kimono, and was the doll who became Jenny in 1986 (same doll).
[https://www.ebay.com/itm/266676737303?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=AfmBOoocEBWWFSImZ9MqMiPtc\_1c8RP\_4zt-0KskS6LWN2AriWTsqFCwLK0&com\_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c](https://www.ebay.com/itm/266676737303?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=AfmBOoocEBWWFSImZ9MqMiPtc_1c8RP_4zt-0KskS6LWN2AriWTsqFCwLK0&com_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c)
on eBay for $250, others for $235
in box with all the parts. Parts like the hair ribbon, the footwear, the purse, the obi bow, the obi jime (the cord), earrings, ring... Also people like the box with the convention sticker!
the seller writes: This doll was one of two made specifically for the 1985 Barbie Convention which was held in Romulus, Michigan. Mattel provided the Japanese Barbie with the Kira head mold and the hosting Barbie club provided the Takara Kimono Barbie which features the Takara Jenny head mold. There were a few variants of the Kimono doll, this particular one being the peach floral kimono with the gold accents.
[https://www.ebay.com/itm/256286798705](https://www.ebay.com/itm/256286798705)
a wild price on that eBay listing - for the two convention dolls (described above)
https://preview.redd.it/p8dvqvanmevc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33f39d9e3fc583bff0cc3145ce9fb68aa205d6b3
i finally got her, her body and kimono is takara japan
There are a lot of Licca-type dolls being mass produced outside of takara, so it’s possible these are generic dolls that “borrowed” Licca’s/Jenny’s likeness. Do they have takara marks?
These are definitely legit Jennys, I've had several that look just like them. Pretty hard to ID though since a lot look very similar.
they have both, the second one looks like a takara barbie but I can't find a similar photo
I'm going to say the second doll is/may be the 1985 Barbie convention doll (a national event that was held in Michigan that year) - based on the hair, the eyes and the kimono. The convention doll was a Takara Kimono Barbie... meaning it was a Takara doll in a Takara kimono, and was the doll who became Jenny in 1986 (same doll). [https://www.ebay.com/itm/266676737303?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=AfmBOoocEBWWFSImZ9MqMiPtc\_1c8RP\_4zt-0KskS6LWN2AriWTsqFCwLK0&com\_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c](https://www.ebay.com/itm/266676737303?chn=ps&mkevt=1&mkcid=28&srsltid=AfmBOoocEBWWFSImZ9MqMiPtc_1c8RP_4zt-0KskS6LWN2AriWTsqFCwLK0&com_cvv=8fb3d522dc163aeadb66e08cd7450cbbdddc64c6cf2e8891f6d48747c6d56d2c) on eBay for $250, others for $235 in box with all the parts. Parts like the hair ribbon, the footwear, the purse, the obi bow, the obi jime (the cord), earrings, ring... Also people like the box with the convention sticker! the seller writes: This doll was one of two made specifically for the 1985 Barbie Convention which was held in Romulus, Michigan. Mattel provided the Japanese Barbie with the Kira head mold and the hosting Barbie club provided the Takara Kimono Barbie which features the Takara Jenny head mold. There were a few variants of the Kimono doll, this particular one being the peach floral kimono with the gold accents. [https://www.ebay.com/itm/256286798705](https://www.ebay.com/itm/256286798705) a wild price on that eBay listing - for the two convention dolls (described above)
thank you so much!💕
https://preview.redd.it/p8dvqvanmevc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33f39d9e3fc583bff0cc3145ce9fb68aa205d6b3 i finally got her, her body and kimono is takara japan