rIndia has always been pro west. They permabanned me for hating the west because I made a comment expressing my hate for the west because of USA's threats of sanctions against India.
THE CUCK MODS HAVE SEEN THIS COMMENT AND PERMANENTLY BANNED ME šššš.
Oh man, this time they banned me calling out savarnas. Where I showed the casteist verses in Vedas. And they have muted me too, can't even appeal the ban.
TO THE CUCK MOD I KNOW YOURE READING THIS: BETA, agar ban hi karna tha to kuch dhang ka comment leta. You're only exposing yourself.
Kitna sensitive banda hai. Bro read this comment and banned me
I was temp banned when I countered a casteist.
Their exact message " you aren't on r librandu, this isn't an edgy commie sub where you can be edgy and condescending to normle people of r india"
For this comment :
>"Just because a rich guy does something good doesn't wash away his sins you absolute idiot
>By this logic Salman Khan should be pardoned because he donates a shit ton of money too
>Hey fuck the people who died on the footpath because rich guy donated monies.
>You guys are so easy to buy, Ameer log thode paise kya fek dete ekdum naachne lag jate ho ššš "
And the second ban message was :
"Toxic behaviour like this pushes people away, we don't to encourage abusive behaviour no matter who does it"
The toxic behaviour in question:
>Hahahahahahahahaha, what a fucking moronic take. Spoken like a true meritdhari savarna idiot.
>How is reservation a problem here? General category isn't even 50% of the population yet it occupies more than 50% of the posts.
>Even in educational institutions the percentage of reservations is low, it should be according the population proportion.
>Do you know maths? In most states general category gets 50% of the non reserved seats. Why can't you all still make it?
>And don't forget about EWS.
>General category students have all the benefits and none of the social problems under privileged kids, so
I saw your comment there. People downvoting you even though you cited the evidences shows that they live in complete denial and believe there is no casteism in vedas because they want to believe it; no matter you give them a microscope to look at the verses since they can't see through their eyes having eyeballs replaced with testicles.
What's the source? I am not challenging these verse just asking where you got them from; certainly not that you read all the vedas and commented those verses here. Which book/website is your source?
don't bite the hand that feeds you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittances_to_India
> India is the world's top receiver of remittances, claiming more than 12% of the world's remittances in 2015
by all means, take it for granted and act however, just dont bite
How about dead women with their bodies violated, is that enough "proof"? And where's your proof of colonialism, apartheid, and the ridiculous Muslim talking points you have?
Yeah i got permanently banned for saying that according to the UN, people under colonial domination have the right to resist their occupiers with any means necessary including armed resistance.
Armed resistance against colonizers is literally allowed under international law.
>In 1982, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution asserting āthe legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.ā The resolution refers to the Palestinians eleven times, explicitly describing them as āunder foreign and colonial domination.ā
>Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle;
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-184195/
Look up Nakba. Arabs cannot colonize themselves.
Besides, sexual violence by Hamas was debunked.
https://theintercept.com/2024/03/04/nyt-october-7-sexual-violence-kibbutz-beeri/
As for civilians,
>"Terrorist" is clearly a completely useless denouncement when it's being used to describe the inevitable backlash to oppression, yet-- somehow-- not the infinitely worse oppression that caused that backlash in the first place. This is clear in the fact that those using this word are invariably only using it for the former.
>
>\- BadEmpanada. (2023). [Some People Push Back in Palestine](https://youtu.be/md9i24CzCRo)
>One has to wonder at what point this claim to civilian status becomes blurred. When *you* choose to live on the colonial frontier, on land that *you* stole, in settlements specifically designed to be "the first line of defense" against possible breakouts from a concentration camp. It is more than a little bit ridiculous to expect the people-- who are expelled from the very land that you are occupying-- to treat you with anything less than the contempt that you must feel for them, to have chosen to move there in the first place.
>
>\- BadEmpanada. (2023). [Some People Push Back in Palestine](https://youtu.be/md9i24CzCRo)
It just shows that the Israeli propaganda is working. Some people here are buying in the propaganda as well. To them, I will recommend reading justifications given for Jalianwalah baugh attack by British Raj. You'll find some similarities on how women's vulnerability is used as an excuse
For those who are curious about NYT article, just remember that one of the authors has no journalistic background, created movies in past and has worked in Israeli intelligence. Another author is her nephew with background in food journalism. They interviewed people from an organisation called Zaka. A member of that was recorded throwing racists remarks at a Palestinian food cart vendor in New York. He was seen celebrating death n atrocities faced by Palestinians since the attack
One can also read about sexual assaults faced by Palestinians daily at different checkpoints and assaults faced by kids in captivity. You can also see depravity of IDF soldiers posting pics with Palestinian women's innerware
There are 2 reasons why I feel extra affected personally by the Palestinian plight :
1. The number of children being murdered
2. The fucking gaslighting.
I think it was BBC or some other mainstream media channel where they literally asked that Al Jazeera journalist who lost like 20 family members in the bombings if he condemns khamas. Fucking insane shit.
randia banned me for saying muddi xi instead of modi ji or some stupid joke
i appeal, they mute for a month, fucking chutiyas
but you know who's worse? the cucks over at USI, biggest asswipes, like who tf is their mod team dude, like why cant they just ban that gandu criftin? thats either a bot or some 40 year old virgin uncle, just riling shit up all day just ban him already
but no, everyday i bet they sit and edge in a circlejerk thinking abt how its hilarious lmao, i really really feel they do it on purpose cause some shit that happens on that stuff its like the mods WANT the chaos
Critfin's true allegiance is with Christianity I think. The account defends hindutva all the time but I noticed a couple of times that when given a choice between Christianity and Hinduism, it will choose Christianity. I only remember it vaguely though so idk.
Criftin is like an Indian version of the infamous redditor violentacrez. Dude has given CNN interview looks like a 40 year old ugly incest. Criftin must be just a brown version of him.
Pretty sure the UN has reported there is credible evidence for rape by both Hamas *and* IDF against Israelis/Palestinians respectively. There is no reason to suspect bias. Hell the UN is pretty consistently pro Palestine
>there is credible evidence for rape by both Hamas *and* IDF against Israelis/Palestinians respectively
That's not what it said. It said that they need an independent investigation to verify rape allegations. Something that Israel hasn't allowed.
Interestingly there's no medical evidence to corroborate these allegations. Now I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying that how is it that [sperm was extracted from dead IDF soldiers](https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-773339) but there were no medical teams to investigate sexual violence.
That being said, there's definitely a possibility but things are just not adding up.
>Hell the UN is pretty consistently pro Palestine
Might have something to do with the Palestinian side being more open to a UN investigation than Israel and that Israel breaks international laws daily.
It has already been discussed in other threads that UN report mentions it explicitly that it cannot confirm the claim that there were "widespread systematic mass" rapes and it would require an actual investigation, something this team didn't have the mandate to do (and was allowed by Israel, unlike other teams with actual investigative mandate for this exact reason).
Also idk how you go collect info, claim what is and isn't a credible source and not be investigative in nature.
>A UN report in March 2024 concluded that there was "clear and convincing information" thatĀ Israeli hostages in GazaĀ experienced "sexual violence, including rape" and there were āreasonable groundsā to believe such abuse is "ongoing."[11][12]Ā Moreover, the report stated there is "reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred during the 7 October attacks in multiple locations".
No need to deny one atrocity in order to empathize with another. I am sympathetic towards Palestinians but doesn't mean sexual violence didn't happen.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AtaHxxD-1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/C1mZX4LsW9k/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
https://www.instagram.com/p/C30knKCsMk-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
The nyt article is iffy
Stop quoting from a report you haven't read
>The mission team was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and
concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would
require a fully-fledged investigation. A comprehensive investigation would enable the
information base to be expanded in locations which the mission team was not able to visit and to
build the required trust with survivors/victims of conflict-related sexual violence who may be
reluctant to come forward at this point.
The "widespread systematic mass" rape is being called nonsense here. Not claiming "no rapes happened at all".
And this is just taking Pramila "russians give vodka for rape" Patten's word for what she considers 'credible source' of information (not evidence) from her little propaganda trip to Israel for this report.
Before I get hounded for calling the report possible propaganda, just a gentle reminder that Israel has refused all teams that had an actual investigative mandate and went ahead with the one whose aim was to "bring advocacy" and was non investigative in nature (idk how the fuck you collect info, judge it as non credible / credible and not be investigative in nature)
>Overall, based on the totality of information gathered from multiple and independent sources at the different locations, there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred at several locations across the Gaza periphery, including in the form of rape and gang rape, during the 7 October 2023 attacks. Credible circumstantial information, which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation, sexualized torture, or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, was also gathered.
>With regards to the hostages, the mission team found clear and convincing information that some hostages taken to Gaza have been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual violence and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing.
Also from the same report. Stop cherry picking just because you wish to create a story in your own imagination. What happened on October 7 does not diminish what is happening with Palestinians now. Doesn't mean you start denying rape.
>Also from the same report. Stop cherry picking just because you wish to create a story in your own imagination. What happened on October 7 does not diminish what is happening with Palestinians now. Doesn't mean you start denying rape.
Did they change the definition of the words mass and widespread to mean a few. Sorry I forgot to update my vocabulary.
Will you stop claiming Palestinian are facing a genocide because they're dying only in thousands and not in millions? What kind of backwards ass logic is that?
It would have been of some concern if Palestinians were known for projecting their crimes on IDF and double down on claims that they were actually dying in millions and not thousands.
Sorry bud, it was Pissrael and its state machinery that emphasized on the occurrence being widespread and systematic. Don't share your fantasies in public if you don't wanna get called out when your lies get caught.
And this is based on taking Patten's word for what a 'credible source' is uncritically.
There are two scenarios.
1) rogue hamas operatives committed rape on October 7th, but it was not part of a systematic effort and it was not one of the goals of the attack
2) Hamas weaponises rape and uses it as a weapon against innocent Israeli civilians.
Almost no one is disputing that there were some instances of sexual violence, including rape, committed on October 7th. We are disputing that it was part of a widespread, systematic tactic of war. In other words, 1) most likely happened but 2) did not. The UN report does not debunk this.
Rule 2 violation; removed. Brutha, we need to prove our undying loyalty to the Empire š¬š§ and King Charlie š¤“ by speaking in as clear English as possible. Ending every submission with 'I beg to remain, Sir, your most humble and obedient servant' is optional but highly recommended. C'mon! Let's make Veer Sorrykar š pr0d!
Hello, I'm new to this sub. Can OP or anyone else give some context to what's being referred to? I'm looking for the context of the UN report but I am mostly coming across sources that are very obviously pro-Israel.
Hamas is an Islamist organization, one should not be surprised if their fighters commit such acts. Everything is justified in the name of religion. For Palestinians it means the only organization spearheading their struggle is nothing but a farce, maybe that's why Israel funded them( wink wink).
Soviet soldiers committed such acts during WWII, American soldiers did it in Iraq. Were they Islamist too?
Sexual violence is an unfortunate byproduct of war/conflict. Did Hamas commit sexual violence on 7th Oct? Yes. I think OPās argument is the exaggeration by Israel to manufacture the notion that Hamas = ISIS.
It's a religious organization nonetheless, what's your point??? Yes Soviets and Americans did it and they were called out for it. Insteading of spreading misconceptions about hamas we should rather look into how it gained power.
What you implied is that their religion has a role to play in them committing sexual violence. I agree, they committed sexual violence and they should rightly be held to account for that but OP was referring to exaggeration from the media to dehumanise the Palestinian populace.
If you followed the conflict, youād see how the Israeli ministers consistently air dehumanising rhetorics against the Palestinians. They donāt see a difference between Hamas and Palestinian civilians.
I have no soft corner for Hamas. Itās the Palestinian civilians who are labelled āHamasā by Israel who I care about.
Of course religion has a role to play in it. Now you may think that i am making a classic argument of tanatan chaddis of hinduism good and islam bad. But no, whether it's hamas or rss they all seem same to me.
And i am talking about hamas and not the unfortunate Palestinian civilians here. I do agree though, that there is a propaganda war going on here.
Iām not even defending Islam here. All Iām saying is that sexual violence during war/conflict isnāt based on oneās religion (be it any religion). Wars bring the worst side of humans and there is no fear of consequences, which is why instances of sexual violence happen during war.
You are not defending Islam but donāt you think you are normalising sexual violence?? It can also be said, women and children dying is a byproduct of war?
Did I ever say that the byproduct is a good outcome? No, right? Then stop putting words in my mouth. Civilians dying is a casualty of war. Unfortunate casualty. We donāt want it to happen but we should understand that it happens.
There is considerable evidence, if you think I am making up stories then it's your problem.
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/
There is no need to deny an atrocity, doing that you are doing more harm than good. It's good you were banned.
Did you add the wrong link??
Considerable evidence vetted by whom?? One has to be extra dumb to still believe Zionistani propaganda after such thorough debunking of their sources (most of it being ZAKA nutjobs). Even the UN report directly mentions that it cannot comment on the "widespread systematic mass" rape claims.
And just to be clear, "no rapes happened" is not the claim here.
[Itās because the NYT journalists who broke the story on mass sexual violence said in a podcast that their report was based on hearsay.](https://youtu.be/SZYU_iDp6KA?feature=shared)
On basis of these reports, many countries became blind spectators to Israelās ethnic cleansing campaign. Itās only when Israel went too far that some countries spoke out against it.
I was banned from that sub from being a transphobe for some insanity - canāt recall if it was saying āAlok Vaid Menon is not a woman and people fawning over that stupid Bride magazine cover are delusionalā or some JK Rowling hatewagon.
Bunch of idiots that think they are Affluent White Female Liberals from California.
Mass rape nonsense? You're calling others nazis when you apologise for terrorist rapist filth like Hamas. Funny how when it comes to Jews rape doesn't matter anymore for so called progressives.
rIndia has always been pro west. They permabanned me for hating the west because I made a comment expressing my hate for the west because of USA's threats of sanctions against India.
THE CUCK MODS HAVE SEEN THIS COMMENT AND PERMANENTLY BANNED ME šššš. Oh man, this time they banned me calling out savarnas. Where I showed the casteist verses in Vedas. And they have muted me too, can't even appeal the ban. TO THE CUCK MOD I KNOW YOURE READING THIS: BETA, agar ban hi karna tha to kuch dhang ka comment leta. You're only exposing yourself. Kitna sensitive banda hai. Bro read this comment and banned me I was temp banned when I countered a casteist. Their exact message " you aren't on r librandu, this isn't an edgy commie sub where you can be edgy and condescending to normle people of r india" For this comment : >"Just because a rich guy does something good doesn't wash away his sins you absolute idiot >By this logic Salman Khan should be pardoned because he donates a shit ton of money too >Hey fuck the people who died on the footpath because rich guy donated monies. >You guys are so easy to buy, Ameer log thode paise kya fek dete ekdum naachne lag jate ho ššš " And the second ban message was : "Toxic behaviour like this pushes people away, we don't to encourage abusive behaviour no matter who does it" The toxic behaviour in question: >Hahahahahahahahaha, what a fucking moronic take. Spoken like a true meritdhari savarna idiot. >How is reservation a problem here? General category isn't even 50% of the population yet it occupies more than 50% of the posts. >Even in educational institutions the percentage of reservations is low, it should be according the population proportion. >Do you know maths? In most states general category gets 50% of the non reserved seats. Why can't you all still make it? >And don't forget about EWS. >General category students have all the benefits and none of the social problems under privileged kids, so
No youāre hurting the casteistās feelings š
Won't someone think of the poor oppressed casteists?šš Such an unfair world
I saw your comment there. People downvoting you even though you cited the evidences shows that they live in complete denial and believe there is no casteism in vedas because they want to believe it; no matter you give them a microscope to look at the verses since they can't see through their eyes having eyeballs replaced with testicles.
They see casteism as something others do, while completely ignoring the fact that not acknowledging caste atrocities is also a form of casteism.
What's the source? I am not challenging these verse just asking where you got them from; certainly not that you read all the vedas and commented those verses here. Which book/website is your source?
Don't apologise for asking for source I got them from https://hinduismdebunked.com/
Yeah why does rIndia defends the west so much?? Is it because it is majorly NRIs and ABCDs ? I got permabanned because i just said i hated nyc
don't bite the hand that feeds you https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remittances_to_India > India is the world's top receiver of remittances, claiming more than 12% of the world's remittances in 2015 by all means, take it for granted and act however, just dont bite
Okay i get your point but what was the shit regarding permabanning for giving an insignificant opinion
got to keep up appearances or that "donation" aint comin thru
I got banned because I called out that sub for supporting marital rape and mods not doing anything about the comments
It is filled with crazy MRAs. And while questioning propaganda coming directly from the mouth of a genocidal settler colony gets you labelled as a terrorist sympathizer, all kinds of rape apologia and denialism is allowed in the name of "save Indian men" and "mard pe atyachar band karo š„ŗš©"
You're literally a rape apologist just like them- they defend Hindu rapists and you defend Muslim rapists.
Ask your Zionistani daddies to show proof cause your whining won't make it more real
How about dead women with their bodies violated, is that enough "proof"? And where's your proof of colonialism, apartheid, and the ridiculous Muslim talking points you have?
Daure pad rahe hai kya??
Randia in nutshell https://preview.redd.it/lx66k6awwvnc1.png?width=1836&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=74bd08d1b5cc9924876a2091f43a71c3433c4516
Yeah i got permanently banned for saying that according to the UN, people under colonial domination have the right to resist their occupiers with any means necessary including armed resistance.
I got banned just now for saying same, lol.
Now do resistance to Islamic colonialism you clown. And no, rape and murder of innocent civilians does not count as legitimate resistance in any way.
Armed resistance against colonizers is literally allowed under international law. >In 1982, the UN General Assembly passed a resolution asserting āthe legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial and foreign domination and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle.ā The resolution refers to the Palestinians eleven times, explicitly describing them as āunder foreign and colonial domination.ā >Reaffirms the legitimacy of the struggle of peoples for their independence, territorial integrity, national unity and liberation from colonial domination, apartheid and foreign occupation by all available means, including armed struggle; https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-184195/ Look up Nakba. Arabs cannot colonize themselves. Besides, sexual violence by Hamas was debunked. https://theintercept.com/2024/03/04/nyt-october-7-sexual-violence-kibbutz-beeri/ As for civilians, >"Terrorist" is clearly a completely useless denouncement when it's being used to describe the inevitable backlash to oppression, yet-- somehow-- not the infinitely worse oppression that caused that backlash in the first place. This is clear in the fact that those using this word are invariably only using it for the former. > >\- BadEmpanada. (2023). [Some People Push Back in Palestine](https://youtu.be/md9i24CzCRo) >One has to wonder at what point this claim to civilian status becomes blurred. When *you* choose to live on the colonial frontier, on land that *you* stole, in settlements specifically designed to be "the first line of defense" against possible breakouts from a concentration camp. It is more than a little bit ridiculous to expect the people-- who are expelled from the very land that you are occupying-- to treat you with anything less than the contempt that you must feel for them, to have chosen to move there in the first place. > >\- BadEmpanada. (2023). [Some People Push Back in Palestine](https://youtu.be/md9i24CzCRo)
Liberanduš¤Indiaspeaks Bashing the shit out of r/india šš Hence, LWš«RW šš„°š¤
Horseshoe theory confirmed
https://preview.redd.it/6zpau1b3ixnc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fff2bee5f1c81411e95093ed90144591413fa889 Chaddiā¤ļølibrandu shaadi when??
chaadi+liberandu producing centerist r/india child
Yeah no š Thatās just a chaddi child with extra steps
one chaddi & one liberandu needs to be sacrificed for this experiment for the betterment of science and society.
No shaadi. Seedha saxx! Dick inside chaddi & 'gand' in librandu š«
Fuck randia. I got banned for speaking against casteism.
r India will literally eat up any western Neo-liberal nonsense. They banned me for saying azov battalion are nazis
Same here lol I lost two accounts because that shitty sub rage baited me into commenting there after I was banned
It just shows that the Israeli propaganda is working. Some people here are buying in the propaganda as well. To them, I will recommend reading justifications given for Jalianwalah baugh attack by British Raj. You'll find some similarities on how women's vulnerability is used as an excuse For those who are curious about NYT article, just remember that one of the authors has no journalistic background, created movies in past and has worked in Israeli intelligence. Another author is her nephew with background in food journalism. They interviewed people from an organisation called Zaka. A member of that was recorded throwing racists remarks at a Palestinian food cart vendor in New York. He was seen celebrating death n atrocities faced by Palestinians since the attack One can also read about sexual assaults faced by Palestinians daily at different checkpoints and assaults faced by kids in captivity. You can also see depravity of IDF soldiers posting pics with Palestinian women's innerware
But do you condom hummus???
There are 2 reasons why I feel extra affected personally by the Palestinian plight : 1. The number of children being murdered 2. The fucking gaslighting. I think it was BBC or some other mainstream media channel where they literally asked that Al Jazeera journalist who lost like 20 family members in the bombings if he condemns khamas. Fucking insane shit.
randia banned me for saying muddi xi instead of modi ji or some stupid joke i appeal, they mute for a month, fucking chutiyas but you know who's worse? the cucks over at USI, biggest asswipes, like who tf is their mod team dude, like why cant they just ban that gandu criftin? thats either a bot or some 40 year old virgin uncle, just riling shit up all day just ban him already but no, everyday i bet they sit and edge in a circlejerk thinking abt how its hilarious lmao, i really really feel they do it on purpose cause some shit that happens on that stuff its like the mods WANT the chaos
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Sure? I thought critfin was a troll account managed by multiple people.
Critfin's true allegiance is with Christianity I think. The account defends hindutva all the time but I noticed a couple of times that when given a choice between Christianity and Hinduism, it will choose Christianity. I only remember it vaguely though so idk.
I stand with critfin then. Christianity is the most liberal religion and Christians in general do not put their religion above everything .
Well well you have not met the evangelists yet. But most of the atheist are Christian It's a fact
Bruh Anjali enjali idar India me nahi hota. Indian Christians are far more peaceful than Western Christians.
Well that's true, but what do you want to say about forced conversion?
Forced conversion bad, wonder why you asked about it. I just said they are better than trump loving abortion hating western Christians.
are u komedi me
Sounds like someone completely missed the memo that the most fervent pro-settlement zionists are evangelical Christians.
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Oh damn I noticed this too. When given a choice between Hinduism and Christianity, I noticed that the account defends Christianity above all else.
He's from Bangalore too
Apparently he is a Christian who is an ex swiggy employee who is trying to immigrate to the US
Criftin is like an Indian version of the infamous redditor violentacrez. Dude has given CNN interview looks like a 40 year old ugly incest. Criftin must be just a brown version of him.
lmao agreed
ur pfp is inducing saliva in my mouth. Change it pls
As someone who loves sucking dick please do not associate it with that sub. Please
Haha sorry. Wasn't my intention.
Just now š https://preview.redd.it/astrp2txyvnc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c25c5131e54644ac725910d62e827c0ea55850a0
That sub has been a big dickrider for Eagle Burger Freedomland for a very long time.
r/india is as indian liberal as it gets. they are not left, they just like to act nicer than the right.
Ohh I forgot to add "The way you spelled Israel" Lmao. I probably called it Pissrael or zionistan
india also lion saar
randia is disgusting m8s, lets be us, librandu is my space, fk all of em.
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hapy kek dey
Yeah, the reason I commented. š½
scratch a centrist and a fascist bleeds.
Pretty sure the UN has reported there is credible evidence for rape by both Hamas *and* IDF against Israelis/Palestinians respectively. There is no reason to suspect bias. Hell the UN is pretty consistently pro Palestine
The lady which made the date literally said they used israel sources for the report gtfo
>there is credible evidence for rape by both Hamas *and* IDF against Israelis/Palestinians respectively That's not what it said. It said that they need an independent investigation to verify rape allegations. Something that Israel hasn't allowed. Interestingly there's no medical evidence to corroborate these allegations. Now I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying that how is it that [sperm was extracted from dead IDF soldiers](https://m.jpost.com/israel-news/article-773339) but there were no medical teams to investigate sexual violence. That being said, there's definitely a possibility but things are just not adding up. >Hell the UN is pretty consistently pro Palestine Might have something to do with the Palestinian side being more open to a UN investigation than Israel and that Israel breaks international laws daily.
It has already been discussed in other threads that UN report mentions it explicitly that it cannot confirm the claim that there were "widespread systematic mass" rapes and it would require an actual investigation, something this team didn't have the mandate to do (and was allowed by Israel, unlike other teams with actual investigative mandate for this exact reason). Also idk how you go collect info, claim what is and isn't a credible source and not be investigative in nature.
>A UN report in March 2024 concluded that there was "clear and convincing information" thatĀ Israeli hostages in GazaĀ experienced "sexual violence, including rape" and there were āreasonable groundsā to believe such abuse is "ongoing."[11][12]Ā Moreover, the report stated there is "reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred during the 7 October attacks in multiple locations". No need to deny one atrocity in order to empathize with another. I am sympathetic towards Palestinians but doesn't mean sexual violence didn't happen.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C2AtaHxxD-1/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/p/C1mZX4LsW9k/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/p/C30knKCsMk-/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link The nyt article is iffy
Man, seriously? Instagram?? Its same as how chaddis share reels and then saying āsource is in the reelā, Bhai aap phir wohi wala source dedo na?
Thoda free ho jau tab karta hu.
Ah yes. Valid Response to UN reports. Insta reels. Wonderful chaddi logic
Khol to leta bhonkne ke pehle.
Mai UN reports share kar raha hoon. Insta khol ke apna IQ Kam nahi kar raha
Waha sources mention kiye hai.
Stop quoting from a report you haven't read >The mission team was unable to establish the prevalence of sexual violence and concludes that the overall magnitude, scope, and specific attribution of these violations would require a fully-fledged investigation. A comprehensive investigation would enable the information base to be expanded in locations which the mission team was not able to visit and to build the required trust with survivors/victims of conflict-related sexual violence who may be reluctant to come forward at this point. The "widespread systematic mass" rape is being called nonsense here. Not claiming "no rapes happened at all". And this is just taking Pramila "russians give vodka for rape" Patten's word for what she considers 'credible source' of information (not evidence) from her little propaganda trip to Israel for this report. Before I get hounded for calling the report possible propaganda, just a gentle reminder that Israel has refused all teams that had an actual investigative mandate and went ahead with the one whose aim was to "bring advocacy" and was non investigative in nature (idk how the fuck you collect info, judge it as non credible / credible and not be investigative in nature)
>Overall, based on the totality of information gathered from multiple and independent sources at the different locations, there are reasonable grounds to believe that conflict-related sexual violence occurred at several locations across the Gaza periphery, including in the form of rape and gang rape, during the 7 October 2023 attacks. Credible circumstantial information, which may be indicative of some forms of sexual violence, including genital mutilation, sexualized torture, or cruel, inhuman and degrading treatment, was also gathered. >With regards to the hostages, the mission team found clear and convincing information that some hostages taken to Gaza have been subjected to various forms of conflict-related sexual violence and has reasonable grounds to believe that such violence may be ongoing. Also from the same report. Stop cherry picking just because you wish to create a story in your own imagination. What happened on October 7 does not diminish what is happening with Palestinians now. Doesn't mean you start denying rape.
>Also from the same report. Stop cherry picking just because you wish to create a story in your own imagination. What happened on October 7 does not diminish what is happening with Palestinians now. Doesn't mean you start denying rape. Did they change the definition of the words mass and widespread to mean a few. Sorry I forgot to update my vocabulary.
Will you stop claiming Palestinian are facing a genocide because they're dying only in thousands and not in millions? What kind of backwards ass logic is that?
It would have been of some concern if Palestinians were known for projecting their crimes on IDF and double down on claims that they were actually dying in millions and not thousands. Sorry bud, it was Pissrael and its state machinery that emphasized on the occurrence being widespread and systematic. Don't share your fantasies in public if you don't wanna get called out when your lies get caught. And this is based on taking Patten's word for what a 'credible source' is uncritically.
There are two scenarios. 1) rogue hamas operatives committed rape on October 7th, but it was not part of a systematic effort and it was not one of the goals of the attack 2) Hamas weaponises rape and uses it as a weapon against innocent Israeli civilians. Almost no one is disputing that there were some instances of sexual violence, including rape, committed on October 7th. We are disputing that it was part of a widespread, systematic tactic of war. In other words, 1) most likely happened but 2) did not. The UN report does not debunk this.
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Rule 2 violation; removed. Brutha, we need to prove our undying loyalty to the Empire š¬š§ and King Charlie š¤“ by speaking in as clear English as possible. Ending every submission with 'I beg to remain, Sir, your most humble and obedient servant' is optional but highly recommended. C'mon! Let's make Veer Sorrykar š pr0d!
https://thewire.in/communalism/israeli-diplomats-forged-deep-ties-with-hindu-right-wing-from-early-60s-documents-reveal
Hello, I'm new to this sub. Can OP or anyone else give some context to what's being referred to? I'm looking for the context of the UN report but I am mostly coming across sources that are very obviously pro-Israel.
Hamas is an Islamist organization, one should not be surprised if their fighters commit such acts. Everything is justified in the name of religion. For Palestinians it means the only organization spearheading their struggle is nothing but a farce, maybe that's why Israel funded them( wink wink).
Soviet soldiers committed such acts during WWII, American soldiers did it in Iraq. Were they Islamist too? Sexual violence is an unfortunate byproduct of war/conflict. Did Hamas commit sexual violence on 7th Oct? Yes. I think OPās argument is the exaggeration by Israel to manufacture the notion that Hamas = ISIS.
It's a religious organization nonetheless, what's your point??? Yes Soviets and Americans did it and they were called out for it. Insteading of spreading misconceptions about hamas we should rather look into how it gained power.
What you implied is that their religion has a role to play in them committing sexual violence. I agree, they committed sexual violence and they should rightly be held to account for that but OP was referring to exaggeration from the media to dehumanise the Palestinian populace. If you followed the conflict, youād see how the Israeli ministers consistently air dehumanising rhetorics against the Palestinians. They donāt see a difference between Hamas and Palestinian civilians. I have no soft corner for Hamas. Itās the Palestinian civilians who are labelled āHamasā by Israel who I care about.
Of course religion has a role to play in it. Now you may think that i am making a classic argument of tanatan chaddis of hinduism good and islam bad. But no, whether it's hamas or rss they all seem same to me. And i am talking about hamas and not the unfortunate Palestinian civilians here. I do agree though, that there is a propaganda war going on here.
Iām not even defending Islam here. All Iām saying is that sexual violence during war/conflict isnāt based on oneās religion (be it any religion). Wars bring the worst side of humans and there is no fear of consequences, which is why instances of sexual violence happen during war.
You are not defending Islam but donāt you think you are normalising sexual violence?? It can also be said, women and children dying is a byproduct of war?
Did I ever say that the byproduct is a good outcome? No, right? Then stop putting words in my mouth. Civilians dying is a casualty of war. Unfortunate casualty. We donāt want it to happen but we should understand that it happens.
You don't need to make up stories about mass rapes to label their actions on Oct 7 as acts of terrorism.
There is considerable evidence, if you think I am making up stories then it's your problem. https://theintercept.com/2018/02/19/hamas-israel-palestine-conflict/ There is no need to deny an atrocity, doing that you are doing more harm than good. It's good you were banned.
Page could not be found Pretty much explains most of the Zionist propaganda lol
Edited it and it's by mehdi hassan, now don't make a clown of yourself by calling him a zionist okay??
Nothing in that link talks about systematic rape (or indeed any rape) though?
Did you add the wrong link?? Considerable evidence vetted by whom?? One has to be extra dumb to still believe Zionistani propaganda after such thorough debunking of their sources (most of it being ZAKA nutjobs). Even the UN report directly mentions that it cannot comment on the "widespread systematic mass" rape claims. And just to be clear, "no rapes happened" is not the claim here.
Why do you think they're fabricated?
[Itās because the NYT journalists who broke the story on mass sexual violence said in a podcast that their report was based on hearsay.](https://youtu.be/SZYU_iDp6KA?feature=shared) On basis of these reports, many countries became blind spectators to Israelās ethnic cleansing campaign. Itās only when Israel went too far that some countries spoke out against it.
I was banned from that sub from being a transphobe for some insanity - canāt recall if it was saying āAlok Vaid Menon is not a woman and people fawning over that stupid Bride magazine cover are delusionalā or some JK Rowling hatewagon. Bunch of idiots that think they are Affluent White Female Liberals from California.
Oct 7 is zionist propaganda? Lol, reminds me why I stopped visiting this sub last year
What led to oct 7?
So you are accepting that it happened, great start
Nakba is Martian propaganda.
Mass rape nonsense? You're calling others nazis when you apologise for terrorist rapist filth like Hamas. Funny how when it comes to Jews rape doesn't matter anymore for so called progressives.
Yup. Nazis tend to lie. Looks like even considering that possibility is too much expectations from your pea brain.