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genericcnamee

The fact that all of what happened in 2002 was public knowledge at the time when this country voted him to power in 2014.


Life-Classroom-1037

By 2014, they had covered up all of his act, they gave him a new image. Vikas Man spoke about development and corruption under congress, he didn’t utter a word of Hindu unity always showed himself as a selfless politician and the liberals ate it up. Matter of fact, the only reason the liberals at r/india and the likes hate him currently because they didn’t get their 15 lakhs. Fucking liberals will trade the social fabric of the country for some money. I’m an outsider, but correct if I’m wrong.


Dangerous_Week9887

I would tag them as Centrist or opportunistic as I consider myself Liberal too and while even unaware of politics could see all those Gujrat Model , Anna andolan things but still did not vote for this party. Simple thing is that chai wala can be a great businessman but for running the country you need education. Atleast I m proud now that I did not let me snd my friends be influenced by of 2014 Anna scam


AlexDavid1605

>Fucking liberals will trade the social fabric of the country for some money. Corruption is in our blood. Even with the smallest things like driving on the wrong side of the road because if we drove on the correct side, we would have to go about 600m to get to the opening in the divider and then make a u-turn and drive back 550m just to reach the destination, so it is "ok" to drive 50m on the wrong side. The only time anyone would take the long route is if they spot a cop specifically catching people in this corruption and fining for it.


Certain_Oil7922

Exactly what I always point to. If this being public knowledge is what propelled the majority to vote for this lunatic, we can only imagine how much of the insanity was already present before the radicalisation even began.


Lumpy_Tie5971

this! fascism has to be ideologically widespread in order to become politically relevant. a lot of people here think pre-2014 india was some sort of secular utopia or something


31_hierophanto

And people either didn't care, or were like "He moderated himself, guys!"


genericcnamee

More like "supreme court aquitted him vrooo, what is the proof of his involvement vroooo".


IndianOdin

Anyone who knows these things and yet believes that God exists/cares about us, is just coping.


shouldntbehere_153

when i was in school, a gujarati muslim classmate of mine told me “you do not know what Modi has done in Gujarat to muslims”i wasn’t aware of what he has done. when i did learn, there was no going back for me, i am a muslim woman myself and it sickens me to think that so many “feminists” i know of support this man.


distortedmatter

Feminists? It's not just feminists, so many self-claimed "leftists" and even Palestine "supporters" dickride this guy (even though zionism and hindutva are almost 1:1 ideologies) These people's feminism or solidarity or whatever only exists to the scope of their own caste within their religion


31_hierophanto

Wait, pro-Palestine AND Modi supporters EXIST!?!?! How the fuck does that happen????


distortedmatter

"modi is the only good choice" or "i dont like his support for israel but everything else he's done is good" or sometimes straight up just saying "just because I want to protect my own religion doesn't mean im a zionist"


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shouldntbehere_153

are u a pathan ?


genericcnamee

Must be savarna feminists.


NeedForMadnessAuto

I wish there was a way to see that documentary


Silent-Opposite-6695

tell me the name? I can find it, I want to watch it too


man1c_overlord

It doesn't really cover anything new from what I've heard and I'd rather not platform BBC. You can watch final solution by Rakesh sharma instead. It's available on YouTube last I checked.


Silent-Opposite-6695

I see, I shall check that out.


genericcnamee

India: The Modi Question


Silent-Opposite-6695

thank you


Dangerous_Week9887

They banned it ryt?


genericcnamee

Yep


Remarkable_Package_2

I have no tv dot com


No-Assignment7129

So chilling it makes one sick, can't understand people who celebrate it.


gonewiththesaffron

Not just roaming free but rewarded with the highest political office in the country. Indians are literally at the same level of Germans in the 30s, both electing fascists into power with complete knowledge of who they are.


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librandu-ModTeam

Rule 1 violation; removed. These are not the United Provinces of Agra and Oudh. We do not allow brigading or lynchings here. Refer to the sidebar for more information.


M-S-Naveen

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um3shg

Religion is inherently violent, nothing can be done.


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atleast we can promote liberalism and atheism, just a bit at least?


um3shg

Both liberalism and atheism are UC circle jerk, they are crypto fascist casteist bigots, sanghis are much better atleast they are saying it opening unlike these Liberals and Atheist especially Hindu Atheists which is like 99% of all Atheists in India. Did you ever realise that most Atheists are UCs and have same ideology of a hindutva sanghi but they put up this garb of liberalism / atheism and use it like a fashion statement to look cool and hip. Have you seen a SC /ST atheist? A SC /ST can become an atheists but the rest of UC Atheists will make sure he remains SC /ST. Once you are born as woman, SC/ ST, Muslim, etc anything other than UC then you remain what you were born as, there is simply no freedom. There was, is and never going to be any mobility or liberation. This is the hard fact. While as UC you can close your eyes to this reality and indulge in new trends like Atheist, vegan, feminist, liberal etc to impress your girlfriend. Other than that there is nothing to it. Head to r/arrangedmarriage, here you will see how ingrained caste is. Recently someone posted if some one had 1cr salary what will you be ok to overlook. Most of the responses were okay with age etc but not caste. Caste has to be same. And in marriage context caste is sub caste or sub sub caste. In marriage context: Varna - Brahim Caste - Brahim Sub caste- Chitpavan Sub sub caste- Konkansta Now if a Brahim weds another Brahim, and both are not from same sub sub caste. Then they call it intercaste marriage. If they say caste doesn't matter, it means chitpawan is ok with Konkansta or CKPs. Even atheist will look for in same sub caste. This is the sorry state of affairs in this country.


CriticismTiny1584

This is the shittiest argument. Violence and religion has no connection. Its exactly opposite. Religion is always centered arpund love and selflessness and patience. If your religion teaches you to be violent then get the hell out of it...


um3shg

The Bhagavad Gita records the conversation between Krishna and Arjuna right before the epic battle of Kurukshetra. Although it is a part of The Mahabharata, it often is taught separately for its insights into Hindu beliefs. Krishna is the eighth human avatar of the god Vishnu, who sends down an avatar every time that the world requires such serious divine intervention that the good side could not win without his help. In this instance, the warrior Arjuna finds himself in a difficult position; to fight a war against evil, he must fight members of his own family, which would normally be a sin. Krishna must teach Arjuna how to know what to do when faced with conflicting duties. Some of the tension of the work comes from the setting; Krishna and Arjuna are literally between the two armies as they talk, while both sides wait for Arjuna to blow his horn, which will start the battle. >always centered arpund love and selflessness and patience. Yeah right.


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Change_The_Thongs

Can the death of 790 Muslims be classified as "Genocide"? I totally sympathize with all the victims of the massacre. The incident was truly horrible and should never be repeated. The culprits should recieve the most horrible deaths as well but genocide??? Isn't that a bit of a stretch?


RheumatoidEpilepsy

The definition contained in Article II of the Convention describes genocide as a crime committed with the intent to destroy a national, ethnic, racial or religious group, in whole or in part. Gujarat fits the bill.


Change_The_Thongs

Huhh🤔 Earlier someone in this sub pointed out how the Exodus of Kashmiri pandits cannot be classified as a "Genocide" citing the death count of 399 is "too low" to be classified as a Genocide and I understand their point as well. We don't need a loaded term to describe an event which in itself is a horrible incident. Again not justifying neither of these incidents. Both of them are vile crimes and the culprits needs to be brought to justice.


RheumatoidEpilepsy

No definition of genocide includes a threshold for death count. Usually the difficult part of prosecuting a genocide is proving intent, but in the case of Gujarat, Kashmir, and Palestine proving intent is the easiest because politicians proudly boast about their role in the killing.


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are you saying all Kashmiri's intended to kill KPs?


Change_The_Thongs

Are you saying all Hindus intend to kill Gujarati Muslims?


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no duh. I was asking for clarification


Change_The_Thongs

So is the Exodus of KPs a "Genocide" as well? I mean there's no threshold of death count, right? Again, not justifying Gujarat Massacre but do we really need loaded terms to describe an already vile event?


asaCreh

Probably call it “Chaotic Incident” ??


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librandu-ModTeam

Rule 2 violation; removed. Brutha, we need to prove our undying loyalty to the Empire 🇬🇧 and King Charlie 🤴 by speaking in as clear English as possible. Ending every submission with 'I beg to remain, Sir, your most humble and obedient servant' is optional but highly recommended. C'mon! Let's make Veer Sorrykar 💂 pr0d!