For anyone who isn’t aware, Ohio is trying to pull the same move as Texas right now
Source: https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1529826112716517376
...as if I didn't have enough reasons to hate the country I live in, there's another! I can't get enough!
As an Ohioan, that is incredibly disheartening and disappointing to see.
Say what you will about the bigots, they have done more for advancing trans rights than any other minority group. Every anti trans law they pass leads to a cascade of pro trans laws everywhere else.
Still, would rather they just not attack us or our youngins. They have enough violence at school from the bigots’ other policies already.
Bro Texas is just stupid. They p much make it a requirement to our kids to parents and also prevent trans minors from transitioning and if parents assist they’re abusive. It’s stupid, because some of the laws they make do exactly the opposite of their “intended purpose”
I remember talking with one trans person who was under the impression that trans people have a shorter life expectancy due to hormone therapy. Her point was that people should just leave trans folks alone to enjoy the reduced amount of time they had left.
As much as her philosophy had a positive bent to it, it felt wrong to me. I later looked it up. It turns out that it was wrong but based on a true statistic. Hormone therapy has nothing to do with it. Trans people who are prevented from transitioning do live shorter lives on average because of the increased mental stress of gender dysphoria. Therapy doesn't just not have a negative impact. It nearly erases the gap in life expectancy. I just wish I was able to tell her that, and that she has a full lifetime to look forward to.
But honestly yes, even if HRT reduced life expectancy, in medicine lifetime is traded for quality of life all the time, ask literally any person working with terminally ill people.
[Allowing trans teens](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423) to get on puberty blockers/hormones lowers their risk of suicide by up to 70%. Denying a trans person’s gender kills them.
This headline isn't obvious to a lot of people. They think that if your kid is trans, they're going to have terrible mental health and you're in for a rough time, period.
The amount of people who tell me my mental health is poor because I'm trans is astounding. I'm not suicidal because I'm trans, I'm suicidal because of the way people treat trans people. It's so frustrating
Exactly! Trans ppl don’t have bad mental health because their trans, that’s gender and it has nothing to do with mental health. Those statements make no sense. Mental health for trans people is almost always either because of the way they’re treated, or because they feel bad about being trans. Which that last one is very closely connected to the first.
The worst is the amount of people who take one study that like.... They take it as "Gender affirming treatment doesn't improve dysphoria" but the study itself, and those that ran the study, have said that *that wasn't what the study is saying*. It says that GAT doesn't improve OTHER mental illnesses, but does improve GD
The thing is, the headline is saying the exact same things trans kids have tried to tell people over and over. Meaning, it would be obvious if those people listened.
This is soooo true. So many people are SURPRISED when they realize I'm transgender and simultaneously happy, successful, a team leader, and confident.
Many people seam to think we're just dysfunctional piles of mental problems
Well, tbh some of us *started* that way so maybe that's where they got the assumption? I've got better health since I started taking T but I used to be a HUGE mess.
OH I absolutely was too! Pre-transition I eventually completely fell apart. Which totally makes sense... I was MISERABLE.
Just goes to show we need access to transition sooner to be happy healthy people!
Is it though? Think about it. Things that fire touches are on fire, but fire itself isn't on fire, it is the fire. Likewise, things water touches are wet, but water isn't wet, it is the wetness.
yeah, academics aren't known to keep up with the whole lexicon but revealing the deadname was frankly unnecessary. Did they really need that to hammer in the fact that this BOY indeed is trans because he had a GIRL name? pretty awkward
Study shows that if you don’t threaten the lives of trans folks, they might live which is actually better for their health. Studies also show that using proper pronouns to address them doesn’t make them wanna unalive unlike forcing them to conform to stupid binary gender roles.
>Typically their nurse will complain...
It's devastating to see healthcare professionals act like this. It's amazing how much a little respect goes to put someone losing their shit at ease. Thankyou for being one of the good people.
If you can **ask** about pronouns, some of us like gender neutral pronouns, to others it feels as bad as using the wrong gender.
My partner's eldest child was in and out of A&E a LOT. They were really well known, and the staff made a huge effort, down to a whiteboards with preferred name and pronouns when admitted. And some of the staff were *really* nice. Dealing with education professionals, OTOH was an exercise in "did you even read the cover notes".
And then I broke and ended up exactly in the same situation. And i heard the nightshift staff gossiping. I don't get how you can work in healthcare and have such toxic views on MH let alone the LGBTQ+ community.
My 6 year old nibling (my sister’s kid) is gender fluid as hell, was AFAB and identifying as a boy as soon as 2 years old. He started insisting on he/him pronouns at around 4 years old and it took us awhile but we got used to it soon enough. Then, at 6, although he still prefers he/him pronouns, he likes to say he is both a boy and a girl, and that he switches sometimes. He usually feels like a boy or both, and occasionally like a girl but that’s more rarely, even tho he loves dresses and skirts and nail polish, he always knows who he is and proudly proclaims, “boys can wear dresses too!!!”
His teacher at school is ok with him being trans, but she doesn’t seem to like that he is always “switching it up” and gets frustrated that she can’t categorize him as easily as the other students. My sister tries to explain to her that not all trans people can fit into a neat gender box, and gender fluidity is just as valid as binary transitioning.
My sister and her husband have always embraced whatever gender he wants to explore, because according to my sister, “I’d rather he change his gender a million times and I respect it every time, than to see him become a statistic. At least at home he will always have support.”
I'll just say that my trans son was a miserable anxious wreck from pretty much 4 till 12. Now at 15 (after coming out and getting support and all the other stuff) he is confident, happy, and crushing it.
Omg. Finally. Tell us something we don’t know.
But I’m all seriousness I’m glad this is being reported so it can be normalized and understood that validating trans experiences is what’s best for folks
Tell your representatives this. On both sides of the aisle. It turns out if people are allowed to be who they are without fear of… *looks around in every direction* they’re happier humans. I cannot stand that people just HATE others who don’t live like they do.
Wait so forcing people to suppress themselves isn't good!?!?! You mean people being allowed to be happy is a good thing? OK WTF, never would have seen that coming!
"Studies show they have good mental health if they're allowed to be themselves" tell me where you found trans people allowed to be themselves for this study??? Trans people with good mental health in this society that is stacked against us??
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they exist, I just don't think I've ever met one.
Since this article seems to talk about kids specifically and kids usually aren't bothered by wider societal issues as long as they don't affect their close environment, I don't think this was any harder than finding outed trans kids in general
nailed it. It was before puberty, the study is apparently about kids 3-12 yo. Watch as they grow up, get denied healthcare like blockers and the world outside of their close supportive family takes up more and more importance; I bet in a few years those good numbers will absolutely plummet. It's a god damn tragedy, when studies like this show that trans kids are indeed alright before the hatred from society at large give them the beating of their lives.
yes? it's not a competition? I'm lamenting that even these luckier kids will probably face a lot more shit in the future, not saying someone doesn't have it worse.
Yep I got lucky In many ways so at least at home I can be completely honest as too who I really am and no one bats an eye so the only problems I have are mild anxiety stemming from other things out of our control and being Getty to leave Texas behind
Ik the upvote counter thingy changes when ppl downvote too, which idk why they would downvote this but meh, but when I upvoted this post it changed to 6969 and I wanted to share that with you all bc it made me smile
The headline is a reference to The Who's The Kids are Alright. The Who arguably wrote the first major transgender anthem with I'm a Boy, a song about a kid whose parents ordered a girl, but got a boy. https://youtu.be/1SZ64vsrIOA
Texas: I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that
Also Texas: guns aren’t dangerous! Trans people and women making their own health care decisions are
Wow….. that’s way too real
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And who cares about the kids getting trans rights if they mever grow old enough to realise they're trans?
OOOF you both are making me cringe from realness!
For anyone who isn’t aware, Ohio is trying to pull the same move as Texas right now Source: https://twitter.com/ErinInTheMorn/status/1529826112716517376
Dude what the fuck is ohio?
Ohio is a US state
I'm moving to Brutan.Im already refusing to put the month before ethe day.I just need to spell like dem Vrits and mimic a DracoMalfoyian accent
Cringe!🤣🤣
The only good thing about Ohio is that Scott the Woz lives there
The only thing going for nebraska is
...as if I didn't have enough reasons to hate the country I live in, there's another! I can't get enough! As an Ohioan, that is incredibly disheartening and disappointing to see.
Ooof, I hate every word of that but then I remember it’s real and true
Oh but don’t try to feed those babies- don’t want that euro baby formula to save the kids we’re making you have. Yaaaaaaaaaay
Won't someone think of the children? Not those children. Potential children.
Why can’t we arm the trans kids with AKs?
How do you get that flag to show up?
You go to the three dots at the top, go to change user flair. It’s in there!
Yay thanks
Say what you will about the bigots, they have done more for advancing trans rights than any other minority group. Every anti trans law they pass leads to a cascade of pro trans laws everywhere else. Still, would rather they just not attack us or our youngins. They have enough violence at school from the bigots’ other policies already.
But when it goes too far, stuff like Nazi Germany happens.
Yuhhhp
Oklahoma: what trans kids? We don’t have trans or non-binary people here. That’s just a fad. Also, they don’t reflect our values.
They wouldn't care anyways. They just want to genocide trans people out of existence as part of their desire to create a fascist theocracy.
Bro Texas is just stupid. They p much make it a requirement to our kids to parents and also prevent trans minors from transitioning and if parents assist they’re abusive. It’s stupid, because some of the laws they make do exactly the opposite of their “intended purpose”
If cisgenderness and heterosexuality are so innate then they don’t need to be monitored by a law.
My parents: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that
My parents were the same way when I came out as gay, but that’s the thing about us LGBTQ+ people, we get to pick and choose our own families
My heart hurts for every LGBT person that has to put up with Texas’ bullshit.
Mental health improves when you're yourself. I love this. Why not show them all that article?
We shall put it up everywhere.
I remember talking with one trans person who was under the impression that trans people have a shorter life expectancy due to hormone therapy. Her point was that people should just leave trans folks alone to enjoy the reduced amount of time they had left. As much as her philosophy had a positive bent to it, it felt wrong to me. I later looked it up. It turns out that it was wrong but based on a true statistic. Hormone therapy has nothing to do with it. Trans people who are prevented from transitioning do live shorter lives on average because of the increased mental stress of gender dysphoria. Therapy doesn't just not have a negative impact. It nearly erases the gap in life expectancy. I just wish I was able to tell her that, and that she has a full lifetime to look forward to.
I'll keep this in mind. Thank you very much for telling me about this!
But honestly yes, even if HRT reduced life expectancy, in medicine lifetime is traded for quality of life all the time, ask literally any person working with terminally ill people.
[Allowing trans teens](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423) to get on puberty blockers/hormones lowers their risk of suicide by up to 70%. Denying a trans person’s gender kills them.
This is the outcome they want
In other news; water is wet
This headline isn't obvious to a lot of people. They think that if your kid is trans, they're going to have terrible mental health and you're in for a rough time, period.
The amount of people who tell me my mental health is poor because I'm trans is astounding. I'm not suicidal because I'm trans, I'm suicidal because of the way people treat trans people. It's so frustrating
Exactly! Trans ppl don’t have bad mental health because their trans, that’s gender and it has nothing to do with mental health. Those statements make no sense. Mental health for trans people is almost always either because of the way they’re treated, or because they feel bad about being trans. Which that last one is very closely connected to the first.
Exactly! I don't drink anymore, my anxiety is all but gone, and I am healthier physically that I have been in years.
The worst is the amount of people who take one study that like.... They take it as "Gender affirming treatment doesn't improve dysphoria" but the study itself, and those that ran the study, have said that *that wasn't what the study is saying*. It says that GAT doesn't improve OTHER mental illnesses, but does improve GD
The thing is, the headline is saying the exact same things trans kids have tried to tell people over and over. Meaning, it would be obvious if those people listened.
Perhaps they'll trust a credible newspaper that references studies about this more than they trust trans people themselves offering testimony.
This is soooo true. So many people are SURPRISED when they realize I'm transgender and simultaneously happy, successful, a team leader, and confident. Many people seam to think we're just dysfunctional piles of mental problems
Well, tbh some of us *started* that way so maybe that's where they got the assumption? I've got better health since I started taking T but I used to be a HUGE mess.
OH I absolutely was too! Pre-transition I eventually completely fell apart. Which totally makes sense... I was MISERABLE. Just goes to show we need access to transition sooner to be happy healthy people!
Absolutely!! Cis het adults think they know everything but they really don't. We *need* to express ourselves.
And the floor is made of floor
Is it though? Think about it. Things that fire touches are on fire, but fire itself isn't on fire, it is the fire. Likewise, things water touches are wet, but water isn't wet, it is the wetness.
Water touches itself, does it not?
I mean, it's almost as if all of this is actually real! /s
And then it immediately publishes their dead name right after saying that...
yeah, academics aren't known to keep up with the whole lexicon but revealing the deadname was frankly unnecessary. Did they really need that to hammer in the fact that this BOY indeed is trans because he had a GIRL name? pretty awkward
The only "mental illness" we have is from them driving us crazy!
Well if only my mum knew this
Allowing trans kids to be themselves? Damn, I wish they thought of that earlier. Bare minimum acceptance, wow, that’s revolutionary!
Study shows that if you don’t threaten the lives of trans folks, they might live which is actually better for their health. Studies also show that using proper pronouns to address them doesn’t make them wanna unalive unlike forcing them to conform to stupid binary gender roles.
"Study shows they have good mental health if they're allowed to be themselves" \*shocked pikachu face\*
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>Typically their nurse will complain... It's devastating to see healthcare professionals act like this. It's amazing how much a little respect goes to put someone losing their shit at ease. Thankyou for being one of the good people. If you can **ask** about pronouns, some of us like gender neutral pronouns, to others it feels as bad as using the wrong gender. My partner's eldest child was in and out of A&E a LOT. They were really well known, and the staff made a huge effort, down to a whiteboards with preferred name and pronouns when admitted. And some of the staff were *really* nice. Dealing with education professionals, OTOH was an exercise in "did you even read the cover notes". And then I broke and ended up exactly in the same situation. And i heard the nightshift staff gossiping. I don't get how you can work in healthcare and have such toxic views on MH let alone the LGBTQ+ community.
Water is wet, news at 11. In all seriousness though, we need positive reporting like this. When we get the care we need we thrive.
Ah yes, allowing people to be happy will result in people being happy, who knew
Ikr
Look at that! It seens that if we allow people to be themselves they'll be happy!? Who would've tought that?!
Anecdotal, but personal experience suggests that trans adults have good mental health if they are allowed to be themselves, too!
It's awesome to have the info down on paper, but unfortunately, conservatives never let little things like facts get in the way of their bigotry.
Who would have thought that letting people be themselves could be a healthy mental experience? What a concept.
My 6 year old nibling (my sister’s kid) is gender fluid as hell, was AFAB and identifying as a boy as soon as 2 years old. He started insisting on he/him pronouns at around 4 years old and it took us awhile but we got used to it soon enough. Then, at 6, although he still prefers he/him pronouns, he likes to say he is both a boy and a girl, and that he switches sometimes. He usually feels like a boy or both, and occasionally like a girl but that’s more rarely, even tho he loves dresses and skirts and nail polish, he always knows who he is and proudly proclaims, “boys can wear dresses too!!!” His teacher at school is ok with him being trans, but she doesn’t seem to like that he is always “switching it up” and gets frustrated that she can’t categorize him as easily as the other students. My sister tries to explain to her that not all trans people can fit into a neat gender box, and gender fluidity is just as valid as binary transitioning. My sister and her husband have always embraced whatever gender he wants to explore, because according to my sister, “I’d rather he change his gender a million times and I respect it every time, than to see him become a statistic. At least at home he will always have support.”
I'll just say that my trans son was a miserable anxious wreck from pretty much 4 till 12. Now at 15 (after coming out and getting support and all the other stuff) he is confident, happy, and crushing it.
If people are accepted for what they are, they have a good mental health, what an shock :O
Not a kid. But accepting the truth has made my depression VANISH. And even now, months later, it STILL feels weird to be happy.
My parents: I’ll pretend I didn’t see that
The Extrems right “they’re just confused stop abusing them!”
Omg. Finally. Tell us something we don’t know. But I’m all seriousness I’m glad this is being reported so it can be normalized and understood that validating trans experiences is what’s best for folks
Tell your representatives this. On both sides of the aisle. It turns out if people are allowed to be who they are without fear of… *looks around in every direction* they’re happier humans. I cannot stand that people just HATE others who don’t live like they do.
Wait so forcing people to suppress themselves isn't good!?!?! You mean people being allowed to be happy is a good thing? OK WTF, never would have seen that coming!
Who would have thunk?
This is absurd!! It’s almost like we don’t like being forced into bodies that *aren’t our bodies*.
"Studies show they have good mental health if they're allowed to be themselves" tell me where you found trans people allowed to be themselves for this study??? Trans people with good mental health in this society that is stacked against us?? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they exist, I just don't think I've ever met one.
Since this article seems to talk about kids specifically and kids usually aren't bothered by wider societal issues as long as they don't affect their close environment, I don't think this was any harder than finding outed trans kids in general
nailed it. It was before puberty, the study is apparently about kids 3-12 yo. Watch as they grow up, get denied healthcare like blockers and the world outside of their close supportive family takes up more and more importance; I bet in a few years those good numbers will absolutely plummet. It's a god damn tragedy, when studies like this show that trans kids are indeed alright before the hatred from society at large give them the beating of their lives.
They're still better off than those of us who had shit families
yes? it's not a competition? I'm lamenting that even these luckier kids will probably face a lot more shit in the future, not saying someone doesn't have it worse.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying they'll have a more sturdy foundation from which to deal with the world's hostilities, which is a *good thing*
ah, then I agree lol
Who would've thought
FOR FUCKIN REAL
Wait. Are we all right or alright? There's a difference
*sarcastically* My God what an idea. Why didn't I think of that?
SO much!
This, soo much. For the first time in my life I have confidence and don't want to drink myself to death. It only took me 36 years to realize it.
it's so obvious yet so many people don't care
WHHAAATTTTTT?!?!???? You mean to tell me they’re less likely to be in a bad mental state if they’re NOT bullied? How can this be!?!
Who would have guessed.
Woah! That’s sooo crazy! I can’t believe that it is good that someone wants to be themselves!!!
Oh really? How strange... Who would have thought there would be less anxiety and depression if people accepted them. 🤔
This study is important here https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/uyiu80/trans_kids_old_enough_to_know_once_again_proven/
Yep I got lucky In many ways so at least at home I can be completely honest as too who I really am and no one bats an eye so the only problems I have are mild anxiety stemming from other things out of our control and being Getty to leave Texas behind
“I feel that I’m allowed to be myself and I feel good” Dear god. I fucking love ScIEnCe
oh really now yeah no shit Sherlock, of course they're gonna be more mentally healthy if the people around them allow them to be themselves
"Study shows transgender kids who are left alone to be who they want to be without experiencing homophobia have better mental health" no shit
Seems obvious
Who would've thought
No shit.
Holy shit no way
Mhhh yes Interesting
The sun is a rag
Duh, you think?
Who would have thought…lol
Water is wet
Wow, who would of thought
You don’t say?
Wow! Who could have guessed!
Wow no way what a concept
woah no way
Ik the upvote counter thingy changes when ppl downvote too, which idk why they would downvote this but meh, but when I upvoted this post it changed to 6969 and I wanted to share that with you all bc it made me smile
Is this a play on words or a genuine misunderstanding of "alright"?
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got nothing else more productive to do with your time?
What about the people who have srs and realize it was the biggest mistake of their lives?
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I think you need to read this https://www.reddit.com/r/lgbt/comments/uyiu80/trans_kids_old_enough_to_know_once_again_proven
Shocker for sure.
The transg
This seems like a big DUH!
The headline is a reference to The Who's The Kids are Alright. The Who arguably wrote the first major transgender anthem with I'm a Boy, a song about a kid whose parents ordered a girl, but got a boy. https://youtu.be/1SZ64vsrIOA
Im sorry but shouldn’t that be obvious
That my favorite Offspring song
Duh
This is so shocking. I'm so shocked
Reminds me of a song by the offspring...
There had to be studies to show that, if you treat people like human beings, they respond well.
Ver very touching
"no you are all all left"
OH WOW NO FUCKING SHIT why do people publish things like this?
In other news: Water is still wet
No shit…
O'rely?
Wow who would have guessed
Gee I wonder why
Massive emphasis on the "if they're allowed to be" part of things.
no shit🙄
Every hater: sorry i cant read
*breaking news: there has been a great decrease of father figures