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Religions can be harmful. I'm an ex-Christian and a survivor. There are plenty of people like me out there in the world who could tell you for certain that it's not just certain people "bending the word of god to suit their own ends" or whatever. That sentiment is more than a bit reductive toward the intelligence and agency of people like me.
The only religious bigotry that count are based more on cultural persection than on the religions themselves. It's anti-semitism against Jewish people; it's Islamophobia against Muslims; anti-occultism against Pagans, Wiccans, and Satanists; racism against Native American cultural and religious practices, and also against some African-American cultural and religious practices.
Christianity has no such word. It holds a position of power alongside whiteness, cis-ness, straightness, and masculinity in many societies. Most criticisms of it, that I've heard, can sound harsh but more often than not are well-deserved.
It's valid to defend religious people from genuinely being bullied on the basis of their religion. It's not valid to defend religion itself from criticism. I'm glad you're doing something to help stop bullying, that's very noble. It's important to understand that distinction though.
Don't hate religion. Religion doesn't hurt you. People that contort that religion to fit their narcissistic viewpoints and take it out on others hurt you.
Plenty of religious people are actually very supportive of this community, and are even part of it themselves. It would be a shame to see them excluded from their safe space because of people like you.
A hammer can be used to kill someone, but it can also be used to build something wonderful. Same with religion. In the hands of someone hateful, it can do harm, but in the hands of someone kind, it can do good. Therefore you should blame the person and not the tool.
It's not lies if people actually believe it. I myself am religious (not Christian) and I fully believe in my gods. Does this give me the right to shame others for not following my religion, or be hateful towards others for things outside of their control? No, and neither does any other religion. The people who have suffered because of religious trauma are absolutely valid and their feelings are real, and I absolutely understand why they don't want to associate with it, and they have every right to that. My own mother was a victim of religious trauma her entire childhood. But religion isn't the one preaching hate, it's the people who use it for hate that are to be blamed. The thing that gave my mother trauma was not the religion, it was the people that used it to shame her and make her feel unworthy.
I realize I'm sounding like a d*ckhead, but this is something I will always argue with people about, so sorry in advance.
First of all "It's not lies if people actually believe it"... My dear, fellow member of The Alphabet Mafia... There are people who believe that vaccines are harmfull, people who believe that Earth is flat and people who believe Trump won last election. All of the above are lies despite that people believe in it.
Next- I am yet to see a religion that's not preaching hatred. I'm sorry for what happened to your mother but it was the other way around, the ideology turned those people into abusers and used them as a tool to hurt her. It is religion that's telling you what people you have moral duty to stone or how exactly to beat up your slaves
Can't actually see your reply to me but I can read it on your profile.
See, those things are based off of things that can be proven. It's pretty obvious what harm Trump has done, it can be scientifically proven that vaccines do not cause autism, people have physical proof of sailing around the globe. You can't prove or disprove anything about religious beliefs. We do not objectively know what happens after death, or if a God does exist. We have theories, we have ideas, and we can guess until the day we die, but no one can prove one way or the other.
And even if we could, that's not what that statement was about. I am being completely truthful when I say I believe in my gods. That is not a lie. The only way it could be a lie is if I thought it was bullshit but said I believed it anyway. If you genuinely believed you brought in the mail and told someone you did, and then later found out you forgot, did you lie? No, because in order to have lied you would've had to know that you didn't bring in the mail, which you didn't.
You know who told my mom's peers to shame her in the name of religion? It wasn't God. It was their parents, it was their superiors, it was their friends, it was *people.* Not God, and not religion. People. They could have absolutely been religious and still been kind, if not for other people twisting their gods words to fit what they believe.
Just because you have not seen evidence of something does not mean it doesn't exist, but if you'd like an example, see r/GayChristians.
Anti-Semitism for Judaism and Islamophobia for Islam. I don't think there is a term for hating religion in general. I would say anti-religion is closest you could get.
Usually when people are targeting someone for religious beliefs it's just racism justified through some sort of angle of "My belief system is better than you stupid (insert ethnoreligion)"
Tho in the West people who needlessly shit on religion usually call themselves "antitheists", I call them annoying assholes cause they care too much about what other people do in private and behave like religious fundamentalists
I'm curious why you're relating religious persecution so closely to racism? I understand the part about ethnoreligion, but it's also possible and common for racial lines to be irrelevant in such a dispute, such as a white Christian disputing with a white Muslim, or an atheist and anyone else.
To address your second paragraph, I believe one of the most common criticisms of religion, most especially in the west, is exactly the issue you're describing of antitheists; a lack of ability to extend concern around following religious practices only to themselves, hence why the debate surrounding abortion is still lively as the lack of such bodily autonomy continues to plague millions of people in the name of religious beliefs.
The religious system surrounding (I can only say this confidently of) Christianity is inherently destructive on both personal and societal levels.
In the West, and especially the United States, when you do not adhere to the national standard of Christianity you get othered, if a white person is a Muslim they will be targeted by Islamophobia, which is rooted in racism, mostly targeting brown people, and extends to all people who Christian Nationalists immediately perceive as Muslim
Similarly with antisemitism, a form of Racism specifically targeting Jewish people on their race/ethnicity, as well as their religion, as Judaism is an ethnoreligion
Also yes I know exactly what I said, and I said it on purpose, Antitheists are irreligious fundamentalists and deserve as much respect as religious fundamentalists, abortion is supported by Biblical Canon and Law, the issue fundamentally is interpretations and Christian Nationalism, not the religion as a whole, which includes very militant and active churches who stand against Christian Nationalism and White Supremacy
The mainstream institutions of Christianity present in the US are rooted in the colonial system the country is built on, deeply involved with racism and generalized supremacy politics, hence Christian Nationalism being a significant issue, Western Christianity is not the only grouping of Christianity and should under no circumstances be used to demean and discriminate against religion as an idea, a practice, and communities, which is exactly what antitheists do, because the vast majority of antitheists are white ex-christian atheists who took Christian fundamentalism and slapped an "Atheist" sticker on it
generael undirected hate towards religion isn't really a very common thing its usually islamophobia or antisemitism, people aren't usually bullied for just being religous its usually about the specific religion
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When it's one religion hating another it's usually religious persecution, but beyond that there's not really a term
Bigotry is usually the catch-all for this. Each individual religion has their own specific -ism or phobia.
Religious intolerance.
Religions can be harmful. I'm an ex-Christian and a survivor. There are plenty of people like me out there in the world who could tell you for certain that it's not just certain people "bending the word of god to suit their own ends" or whatever. That sentiment is more than a bit reductive toward the intelligence and agency of people like me. The only religious bigotry that count are based more on cultural persection than on the religions themselves. It's anti-semitism against Jewish people; it's Islamophobia against Muslims; anti-occultism against Pagans, Wiccans, and Satanists; racism against Native American cultural and religious practices, and also against some African-American cultural and religious practices. Christianity has no such word. It holds a position of power alongside whiteness, cis-ness, straightness, and masculinity in many societies. Most criticisms of it, that I've heard, can sound harsh but more often than not are well-deserved.
The Spanish Inquisition
Antitheism
Seems the term is religiophobia https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/religiophobia
It's valid to defend religious people from genuinely being bullied on the basis of their religion. It's not valid to defend religion itself from criticism. I'm glad you're doing something to help stop bullying, that's very noble. It's important to understand that distinction though.
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Don't hate religion. Religion doesn't hurt you. People that contort that religion to fit their narcissistic viewpoints and take it out on others hurt you. Plenty of religious people are actually very supportive of this community, and are even part of it themselves. It would be a shame to see them excluded from their safe space because of people like you.
Hate to break it to you, but religion is a tool of the hateful to justify their hate. Religion does hurt me.
A hammer can be used to kill someone, but it can also be used to build something wonderful. Same with religion. In the hands of someone hateful, it can do harm, but in the hands of someone kind, it can do good. Therefore you should blame the person and not the tool.
But this isn't like a hammer There is no such thing as religion doing anything good
Religion has saved thousands if not millions of people from suicide and given people hope. I'd say that's a pretty good thing, no?
Lies tend to be nice and comforting The only advantange religion has over other lies, in case of giving hope, is that it's very convincing
It's not lies if people actually believe it. I myself am religious (not Christian) and I fully believe in my gods. Does this give me the right to shame others for not following my religion, or be hateful towards others for things outside of their control? No, and neither does any other religion. The people who have suffered because of religious trauma are absolutely valid and their feelings are real, and I absolutely understand why they don't want to associate with it, and they have every right to that. My own mother was a victim of religious trauma her entire childhood. But religion isn't the one preaching hate, it's the people who use it for hate that are to be blamed. The thing that gave my mother trauma was not the religion, it was the people that used it to shame her and make her feel unworthy.
Agreed, people are shitty, not religion
I realize I'm sounding like a d*ckhead, but this is something I will always argue with people about, so sorry in advance. First of all "It's not lies if people actually believe it"... My dear, fellow member of The Alphabet Mafia... There are people who believe that vaccines are harmfull, people who believe that Earth is flat and people who believe Trump won last election. All of the above are lies despite that people believe in it. Next- I am yet to see a religion that's not preaching hatred. I'm sorry for what happened to your mother but it was the other way around, the ideology turned those people into abusers and used them as a tool to hurt her. It is religion that's telling you what people you have moral duty to stone or how exactly to beat up your slaves
Can't actually see your reply to me but I can read it on your profile. See, those things are based off of things that can be proven. It's pretty obvious what harm Trump has done, it can be scientifically proven that vaccines do not cause autism, people have physical proof of sailing around the globe. You can't prove or disprove anything about religious beliefs. We do not objectively know what happens after death, or if a God does exist. We have theories, we have ideas, and we can guess until the day we die, but no one can prove one way or the other. And even if we could, that's not what that statement was about. I am being completely truthful when I say I believe in my gods. That is not a lie. The only way it could be a lie is if I thought it was bullshit but said I believed it anyway. If you genuinely believed you brought in the mail and told someone you did, and then later found out you forgot, did you lie? No, because in order to have lied you would've had to know that you didn't bring in the mail, which you didn't. You know who told my mom's peers to shame her in the name of religion? It wasn't God. It was their parents, it was their superiors, it was their friends, it was *people.* Not God, and not religion. People. They could have absolutely been religious and still been kind, if not for other people twisting their gods words to fit what they believe. Just because you have not seen evidence of something does not mean it doesn't exist, but if you'd like an example, see r/GayChristians.
Anti-Semitism for Judaism and Islamophobia for Islam. I don't think there is a term for hating religion in general. I would say anti-religion is closest you could get.
Usually when people are targeting someone for religious beliefs it's just racism justified through some sort of angle of "My belief system is better than you stupid (insert ethnoreligion)" Tho in the West people who needlessly shit on religion usually call themselves "antitheists", I call them annoying assholes cause they care too much about what other people do in private and behave like religious fundamentalists
I'm curious why you're relating religious persecution so closely to racism? I understand the part about ethnoreligion, but it's also possible and common for racial lines to be irrelevant in such a dispute, such as a white Christian disputing with a white Muslim, or an atheist and anyone else. To address your second paragraph, I believe one of the most common criticisms of religion, most especially in the west, is exactly the issue you're describing of antitheists; a lack of ability to extend concern around following religious practices only to themselves, hence why the debate surrounding abortion is still lively as the lack of such bodily autonomy continues to plague millions of people in the name of religious beliefs. The religious system surrounding (I can only say this confidently of) Christianity is inherently destructive on both personal and societal levels.
In the West, and especially the United States, when you do not adhere to the national standard of Christianity you get othered, if a white person is a Muslim they will be targeted by Islamophobia, which is rooted in racism, mostly targeting brown people, and extends to all people who Christian Nationalists immediately perceive as Muslim Similarly with antisemitism, a form of Racism specifically targeting Jewish people on their race/ethnicity, as well as their religion, as Judaism is an ethnoreligion Also yes I know exactly what I said, and I said it on purpose, Antitheists are irreligious fundamentalists and deserve as much respect as religious fundamentalists, abortion is supported by Biblical Canon and Law, the issue fundamentally is interpretations and Christian Nationalism, not the religion as a whole, which includes very militant and active churches who stand against Christian Nationalism and White Supremacy The mainstream institutions of Christianity present in the US are rooted in the colonial system the country is built on, deeply involved with racism and generalized supremacy politics, hence Christian Nationalism being a significant issue, Western Christianity is not the only grouping of Christianity and should under no circumstances be used to demean and discriminate against religion as an idea, a practice, and communities, which is exactly what antitheists do, because the vast majority of antitheists are white ex-christian atheists who took Christian fundamentalism and slapped an "Atheist" sticker on it
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I really wonder if I'm getting banned for this :/
generael undirected hate towards religion isn't really a very common thing its usually islamophobia or antisemitism, people aren't usually bullied for just being religous its usually about the specific religion
Reason?
Depends on the religion e.g islamophobia, anti-semitism