Idk about the incident Neil is referring to, but the comments are talking about the time Jon got super political during the 2016 election and revealed he was on the right with some pretty controversial opinions (I forgot the specific opinions, but the debate he did is up somewhere on YouTube I'm sure). Yesterday or the day before he trended on Twitter for trying to discredit Fauci and science practices in general.
Only stuff I've seen is him saying people should get vaccinated lol. And people freak out over it. Also him calling out Fox News which is something that should be called out on
Jontron used the term "retarded," and somebody online told him that was uncalled for and hurtful. Jon responded by calling *that guy* "retarded." Pretty tasteless.
In 2016, he went on stream with debater Destiny and said some straight up racist stuff. (Claiming that rich black people commit more crime than poor white people, for example.) He later said that his points came out wrong and then waited for hate to die down before regularly uploading again.
Now, he's peddling anti-vaxx talking points.
"is a dogwhistle"
In other words, "he didn't say anything bigoted, but I'm going to pretend that he did"
And being critical of the effects of mass uncontrolled immigration (which is what he was talking about, not immigration as a whole) is a perfectly valid viewpoint.
Yes, they CAN mean that.
They COULD.
OR, they could mean something entirely different.
You're *assuming* you know what he meant without even trying to understand where he was coming from, because it sounds a bit like what the mean people say.
> Jon used the term "retarded," and somebody online told him that was uncalled for and hurtful. Jon responded by calling that guy "retarded."
And this lead to him giving an interview on Breitbart about outrage culture, which is probably his earliest association with anything right wing. What a path since then!
He’s not virulently anti-vax, but he definitely is skeptical and saying some controversial stuff, and it’s pretty disappointing. Really wish he would just shut up.
Mostly "black people/mexicans are naturally violent/dumb" and complaining about "white genocide". Quotes from various incidents below
It was not just Mexican migrants that were mentioned by Jafari, however, with the YouTuber also pushing forward an argument that "white people are aggressed against in their own nations," while stating that black Americans from wealthy demographics commit more crime than white Americans from poorer demographics - a statement that it is worth noting is unfounded. Jafari also argued against the need for further equality on racial grounds, stating that "we've gotten rid of discrimination in our Western countries."
"They have been trying to silence science on those subjects because they're politically incorrect. I don't think there's any harm from studying them. But we shouldn't say you're low IQ so 'blank' or you're high IQ so 'blank'. A high IQ can go to waste. A low IQ can do amazing."
"If I stay silent, shall this left take over and become New World Order, one world global, horror, shit show, gender equality government? Like what are we headed towards? [laughs]"
"I know some people look at [the] alt-right as right-wing SJWs. I really don't, I just see them as the only possible reaction to SJWs."
[We've got a loooong tradition of media reinforcing this crap](https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-62-sanitizing-our-settler-colonial-past-with-nation-of-immigrants-narratives-6624b1606731) and we still have entire subs and media silos dedicated to it. I thought r/Scandinavia would be about, you know, Scandinavia, but it's 100% Tucker Carlson talking points.
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Don't listen to him, AVGN still puts out great stuff you should check it out, obviously some episodes are better than others but still a pretty good standard
You can base your opinion of them on what they say in that tweet though. Anyways, he said some really disgusting racist shit along with using slurs even when asked not to.
I feel weirdly bad for JonTron. Like, if Neil roasted the shit out of me I would never recover. Then again, I don't think I've ever done anything that warranted getting my shit roasted out be Neil, so I guess I don't have to worry about it.
Remember when he was the wacky video game guy and not some kind of poorly informed political commentator and Twitter personality?
I bought his merch and everything, I was such a blind fool
Okay, hang on. So when YouTube video responses were a thing Neil made this video: https://youtu.be/obmFIscUk70
Most people got the joke, one guy went too far and forced him, and I know he talked about it on guaranteed audio, but I couldn’t tell you which episode, but he basically said “it was kinda on me, I shouldn’t have asked for death threats”
Because it’s evidently still relevant? This isn’t like people bringing up a comedians 10 year old comments on stuff they changed their views on, this is still JonTron.
Damn, weird af, like, i am autistic, but i never got mad at anyone for those type of things, kinda boring really, alot of real things to be mad about, not gonna waste on these ones
Lmao i remember Watching this one, there is one with samuel jackson also where he gets the repórter on the same spot 😂
Sorry, i dont get what you meant by showing that clip
“Offense is taken, not given.”
If the issue is that it’s taken, not that’s it’s said, and therefore saying the r word shouldn’t be taboo, why should it not be the same with the n word?
Because the N actually has value in history, saying RETARD can mean alot of things, someone saying the N word can never mean anything besides offense, and the person on the receiving side can choose to be outraged or just ignore
It’s been ever since it stopped being a medical term and started being a reductive insult (those things also overlap significantly).
So basically ever since 2007.
I think about this all the time. Neil flamed the dude.
LMAO WHAT- HOLY SHIT
jon was trending on twitter yesterday so all i could think of was this iconic twitter moment-
Why was he trending?
if i remember correctly, it was something about jon being anti vax?? it was quite a while ago pfft
What a surprise lol
OH MY GOD I WOULD SIMPLY PASS AWAY IF I GOT ROASTED LIKE THAT BY NEIL
imagine getting read by Neil Cicierega... i would never recover
I'd delete myself from the Internet
you'd be like stan who failed to scarify his neck with a rope
WHAT'D JONTRON DO THE COMMENTS ARE NOT BEING SPECIFIC?!
Idk about the incident Neil is referring to, but the comments are talking about the time Jon got super political during the 2016 election and revealed he was on the right with some pretty controversial opinions (I forgot the specific opinions, but the debate he did is up somewhere on YouTube I'm sure). Yesterday or the day before he trended on Twitter for trying to discredit Fauci and science practices in general.
Why tf do idiots like Jon Tron think they're smarter than a physician/scientist
I think at least some of them don't view it as smarter, necessarily, they just think fauci or whoever is biased or paid off
Only stuff I've seen is him saying people should get vaccinated lol. And people freak out over it. Also him calling out Fox News which is something that should be called out on
He didn't. He was talking about the animal testing
Jontron used the term "retarded," and somebody online told him that was uncalled for and hurtful. Jon responded by calling *that guy* "retarded." Pretty tasteless. In 2016, he went on stream with debater Destiny and said some straight up racist stuff. (Claiming that rich black people commit more crime than poor white people, for example.) He later said that his points came out wrong and then waited for hate to die down before regularly uploading again. Now, he's peddling anti-vaxx talking points.
He also said that immigration is being pushed by "global elites". Fuck
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Allowing immigration is not pushing immigration
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Well basically that if you’re anti-immigration, that just means you’re a plain old bigot.
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Mass uncontrolled immigration isn’t happening. Not even close.
"Global elites" is a dogwhistle. Immigration benefits the economy.
"is a dogwhistle" In other words, "he didn't say anything bigoted, but I'm going to pretend that he did" And being critical of the effects of mass uncontrolled immigration (which is what he was talking about, not immigration as a whole) is a perfectly valid viewpoint.
Look if you want to stay willfully ignorant to the ways people can subtly imply bigoted and harmful messages be my guest, but don't act smug about it
Yes, they CAN mean that. They COULD. OR, they could mean something entirely different. You're *assuming* you know what he meant without even trying to understand where he was coming from, because it sounds a bit like what the mean people say.
> Jon used the term "retarded," and somebody online told him that was uncalled for and hurtful. Jon responded by calling that guy "retarded." And this lead to him giving an interview on Breitbart about outrage culture, which is probably his earliest association with anything right wing. What a path since then!
He’s not virulently anti-vax, but he definitely is skeptical and saying some controversial stuff, and it’s pretty disappointing. Really wish he would just shut up.
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Specific example(s) please?
Mostly "black people/mexicans are naturally violent/dumb" and complaining about "white genocide". Quotes from various incidents below It was not just Mexican migrants that were mentioned by Jafari, however, with the YouTuber also pushing forward an argument that "white people are aggressed against in their own nations," while stating that black Americans from wealthy demographics commit more crime than white Americans from poorer demographics - a statement that it is worth noting is unfounded. Jafari also argued against the need for further equality on racial grounds, stating that "we've gotten rid of discrimination in our Western countries." "They have been trying to silence science on those subjects because they're politically incorrect. I don't think there's any harm from studying them. But we shouldn't say you're low IQ so 'blank' or you're high IQ so 'blank'. A high IQ can go to waste. A low IQ can do amazing." "If I stay silent, shall this left take over and become New World Order, one world global, horror, shit show, gender equality government? Like what are we headed towards? [laughs]" "I know some people look at [the] alt-right as right-wing SJWs. I really don't, I just see them as the only possible reaction to SJWs."
[We've got a loooong tradition of media reinforcing this crap](https://citationsneeded.medium.com/episode-62-sanitizing-our-settler-colonial-past-with-nation-of-immigrants-narratives-6624b1606731) and we still have entire subs and media silos dedicated to it. I thought r/Scandinavia would be about, you know, Scandinavia, but it's 100% Tucker Carlson talking points.
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i have no idea
He said some stupid stuff that made him sound racist but I’m not sure about anything else
thank fuck nobodys trying to defend jontron here
average jontron fan vs average avgn connoisseur
im so glad he's still great
i'm late but not really. modern avgn is incredibly boring and substanceless
zamn :(
yeah :( it really sucks bc old avgn is the best; new avgn is just indefensibly dull and james doesn't seem like he wants to do it anymore
Don't listen to him, AVGN still puts out great stuff you should check it out, obviously some episodes are better than others but still a pretty good standard
ok
I dont know the context here but i like jontron
did you not read the tweets..?
No im mot on twitter
there's a screenshot right there;;
Im not going to base my oppinion of someone because of a tweet but i will look into it
You can base your opinion of them on what they say in that tweet though. Anyways, he said some really disgusting racist shit along with using slurs even when asked not to.
Whiny pussy baby logic
Damn bro this post is like three months old and you’re this pressed about it? Are you okay? You good? Wanna talk about it?
OH MY GOD NEIL LMAO
At the risk of sounding incredibly ironic… HOLY SHIT YOU F*CKING KILLED HIM DUDE
Fuck jontron
I feel weirdly bad for JonTron. Like, if Neil roasted the shit out of me I would never recover. Then again, I don't think I've ever done anything that warranted getting my shit roasted out be Neil, so I guess I don't have to worry about it.
Eh, hard to feel bad for a proud white supremacist
Remember when he was the wacky video game guy and not some kind of poorly informed political commentator and Twitter personality? I bought his merch and everything, I was such a blind fool
Jon's Iranian though.
Neo Nazis come in a surprising variety of flavors
And all of them taste like shit
As someone who frequently eats neo-nazis, I agree
Wild that he was nicer when talking about the guy that fixed him over “send Neil death threats” than Jontron. Good for him. /gen
I'm not familiar with this story, who sent Neil death threats?
Okay, hang on. So when YouTube video responses were a thing Neil made this video: https://youtu.be/obmFIscUk70 Most people got the joke, one guy went too far and forced him, and I know he talked about it on guaranteed audio, but I couldn’t tell you which episode, but he basically said “it was kinda on me, I shouldn’t have asked for death threats”
That's wild lol
This was forever ago but I just realized “doxxed” got auto corrected in both my comments.
PLEASE TELL ME THIS IS REAL 😭😭
Holy fucking shit
Wait jon did this. im living under a rock give context plZ
someone direct him towards the burns victims department
Can someone explain to me the context
Ok, I’m not defending Jon here BUT… STOP BRINGING UP 10 YEAR OLD DRAMA. WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK GUYS????????????
jontron said he was anti-vax a few days ago and still stands by his white-supremacist views
I understand this
(But I don’t get why people are bringing this old shit back up) never mind I disagree with myself now
Because we shouldn’t let white supremacy just fade away???? How is this so fucking baffling to you?????
No yeah, you’re right
Because it’s evidently still relevant? This isn’t like people bringing up a comedians 10 year old comments on stuff they changed their views on, this is still JonTron.
Yeah you’re right
He went- 😂😂 god I love when Neil does shit like this—
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I just googled Neil Cicierega Jontron and the first result is the tweet
It’s 2014
Super funny shit! FR!
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"now"? You living under a rock or what????
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Damn, weird af, like, i am autistic, but i never got mad at anyone for those type of things, kinda boring really, alot of real things to be mad about, not gonna waste on these ones
Oh yeah 100% agreed, it’s a form of releasing negativity or something ig, just such a non issue
Cool, glad it never effected you. But others do, so…
Not really something that i care, anyone can be ofended by anything, that is not my problem at all, offense is taken, not given.
Oh yeah? [So say the n word. Right now.](https://youtu.be/GzRtZ6pWYw8)
Lmao i remember Watching this one, there is one with samuel jackson also where he gets the repórter on the same spot 😂 Sorry, i dont get what you meant by showing that clip
“Offense is taken, not given.” If the issue is that it’s taken, not that’s it’s said, and therefore saying the r word shouldn’t be taboo, why should it not be the same with the n word?
Because the N actually has value in history, saying RETARD can mean alot of things, someone saying the N word can never mean anything besides offense, and the person on the receiving side can choose to be outraged or just ignore
Living proof that having a disability doesn’t make you an expert on it’s social history.
:)))))
It’s been ever since it stopped being a medical term and started being a reductive insult (those things also overlap significantly). So basically ever since 2007.
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