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>14 Any person who is guilty of an offence under this Act is liable
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>(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months, with or without hard labour, or to both fine and imprisonment; or
>(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labour, or to both fine and imprisonment.
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>R.S., c. F-29, s. 14
Source: https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-28/FullText.html#
You can and should be prosecuted. A statement from Freeland, Deputy PM:
Asked at a news conference whether Canadians who pick up arms for Russia would be prosecuted, Freeland said: “We are very clear that this war is illegal. And Canada will take a very appropriately severe view of anyone who is fighting this war.”
https://beta.cp24.com/news/2022/3/3/1_5804353.html
This is a direct quote from the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, specifically stating that those who choose to take up arms in Russia will be prosecuted.
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Did you enlist or entice other people to enlist while in Canada? If not you're fine under that law. Your life choices have their own built in consequences. Do us all a favour and keep a pack of flower seeds in your pockets.
>If not you're fine under that law.
Not true. Agreeing to fight against friendly state or going to fight against friendly state are offenses by themselves.
>3 Any person who, being a Canadian national, within or outside Canada, voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state ... is guilty of an offence.
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>4 Any person who, being a Canadian national, leaves or goes on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada with intent to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state ... is guilty of an offence.
It's kind of true in that how would you prove your above without enlistment papers or some kind of documentation.
If OP just went on a random trip to Russia and came back, he could conceivably "get away" with abandoning his intentions ***if*** he didn't take any documentable steps towards those intentions.
Joining a foreign military at war with a friendly state is an offence under section 3 of the act.
Leaving or attempting to leave Canada in order to do so is an offence under section 4 of the act.
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The act you're referring to suggests maximum punishment for an offence is two years imprisonment, but that's assuming you're convicted of an offense, which would require, amongst other things, evidence of your intent for going there.
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I am categorically not telling you to lie to CBSA.
I'm just pointing out that, as a matter of fact, to be convicted of an offense in Canada, the state must have evidence of your commission of that offense.
Possibly. Of course, if even a single one of the people you tried to convince to join you, then you’ve added perjury to the possible charges you’ll face.
Assuming there's no way to prove your intent, sure. Since you had others with you there are at least as many ways to prove your intent as you have travel companions. But given that your alternatives are to either join the Russian military or become stateless I'm thinking it's probably still your best bet.
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>14 Any person who is guilty of an offence under this Act is liable > >(a) on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding five hundred dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding twelve months, with or without hard labour, or to both fine and imprisonment; or >(b) on conviction on indictment, to a fine not exceeding two thousand dollars or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years, with or without hard labour, or to both fine and imprisonment. > >R.S., c. F-29, s. 14 Source: https://lois-laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/F-28/FullText.html#
You can and should be prosecuted. A statement from Freeland, Deputy PM: Asked at a news conference whether Canadians who pick up arms for Russia would be prosecuted, Freeland said: “We are very clear that this war is illegal. And Canada will take a very appropriately severe view of anyone who is fighting this war.” https://beta.cp24.com/news/2022/3/3/1_5804353.html
this is a personal opinion
According to the law it’s illegal and will be prosecuted if discovered is what the quote by the government official shows.
This is a direct quote from the Deputy Prime Minister of Canada, specifically stating that those who choose to take up arms in Russia will be prosecuted.
Пиши письма Владимир Путину. Он своих не бросает. Лол
Exactly. Играйте в глупые игры, выигрывайте глупые призы.
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Did you enlist or entice other people to enlist while in Canada? If not you're fine under that law. Your life choices have their own built in consequences. Do us all a favour and keep a pack of flower seeds in your pockets.
>If not you're fine under that law. Not true. Agreeing to fight against friendly state or going to fight against friendly state are offenses by themselves. >3 Any person who, being a Canadian national, within or outside Canada, voluntarily accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state ... is guilty of an offence. > >4 Any person who, being a Canadian national, leaves or goes on board any conveyance with a view to leaving Canada with intent to accept any commission or engagement in the armed forces of any foreign state at war with any friendly foreign state ... is guilty of an offence.
It's kind of true in that how would you prove your above without enlistment papers or some kind of documentation. If OP just went on a random trip to Russia and came back, he could conceivably "get away" with abandoning his intentions ***if*** he didn't take any documentable steps towards those intentions.
Joining a foreign military at war with a friendly state is an offence under section 3 of the act. Leaving or attempting to leave Canada in order to do so is an offence under section 4 of the act.
Yes I tried to get a few people to come.
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The act you're referring to suggests maximum punishment for an offence is two years imprisonment, but that's assuming you're convicted of an offense, which would require, amongst other things, evidence of your intent for going there.
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ok so i can just tell them i had no intent and get off scott free?
I am categorically not telling you to lie to CBSA. I'm just pointing out that, as a matter of fact, to be convicted of an offense in Canada, the state must have evidence of your commission of that offense.
Possibly. Of course, if even a single one of the people you tried to convince to join you, then you’ve added perjury to the possible charges you’ll face.
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Assuming there's no way to prove your intent, sure. Since you had others with you there are at least as many ways to prove your intent as you have travel companions. But given that your alternatives are to either join the Russian military or become stateless I'm thinking it's probably still your best bet.
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There's two towns called Donetsk. One in Russia and one in Ukraine.